The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jordan Klepper Breaks Down Fox News, Dominion Settlement | Charley Crockett

Episode Date: April 19, 2023

Jordan Klepper breaks down the latest news including Fox News settling with Dominion, Ron DeSantis’s suggestion for a state prison next to Disney, Jim Jordan’s “field hearing” in NYC, George Santos’s reelection bid, and Diane Feinstein's refusal to resign from the Senate. Singer and songwriter Charley Crockett talks about his life’s journey.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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breaking news. Apparently widespread line and deceit may have some consequences. And we are back with our breaking news coverage. Just as opening statements were set to begin in what was going to be a historic trial, Dominion voting systems suing Fox for defamation. Lawyers on both sides reached a settlement, an absolutely enormous settlement. A lawyer for Dominion announced that Fox would be paying Dominion $787,500,000. Wow. Wow, $787 million. That is a ton of money.

And Fox was already strapped for cash. Tucker Carlson can only afford one facial expression. And look, I'm glad there's some accountability here, but still, I'm pretty disappointed we're not gonna get a trial because all the Fox anchors would have been forced to testify. It would have been like the Seinfeld finale, but instead of, instead of soup Nazis, it's just... Since Fox is going to have to pay nearly a billion dollars, they'll need to implement cost-cutting measures.

Sadly, they have to fire Brian Kilmeade's reading tutor. Janine Pirro has to switch to the cheap box of wine. Development on a third ducy has been halted. They're going to have to switch from Jesse Waters to Tap Waters and of course they're going to have to put down Sean Hannity. Let's move on. Let's move on. You guys smell that? You smell what I'm smelling?

That combination of Jim Swead and Old Spice and Unearned Confidence? Feels like there's a lot of alpha male energy going on politics right now. Everywhere you look in the news, there's an alpha male whipping his pecker out, marking his territory, punching walls instead of crying. Real tough guys. Guys like Ron, these boots are made for walking DeSantis, who's down in Florida, waging war on a cartoon mouse. This morning, the ongoing feud between Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Disney is intensifying.

Dissantis now floating the idea of the state developing land next to Disney world. Come to think of it now, people are like, well, there's, what should, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thee, thee, thee, thee, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, t ttha. tha. thau. thau thau thau thau thau thau thau thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi of the state developing land next to Disney world. Come to think of it now people are like, well, there's, what should we do with this land? Maybe try to do more amusement parks. Someone even said like, maybe you need another state prison. Who knows? I mean, I just think that the possibilities are endless. Okay. A state prison next to Disney world. You imagine what poor Walt Disney would say if he,. th, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, w W, w W, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what tho, what thi, what tho, what thoomo, what tho, what tho, what should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What, w. What thi? A state prison next to Disney World.

You imagine what poor Walt Disney would say if he saw this? I mean, first he'd have a lot to say about all the Jews and black people allowed in the park. But after he sorted all that out, he'd be very upset. This may sound like a petty move by a wannabe dictator. But is a prison next to Disney World an inherently bad idea? I say no. As long as they lock up strictly

those Disney adults were gonna be totally fine. You know, I know you're trying to make adulthood feel like childhood, but guess what? There's nothing for you past 30. But it wasn't the only alpha male on the Alpha Paloosa main stage yesterday. There was also Jim Jordan. Now last month, a lot of Jordan fans here. Last month Jim Jordan's bro, Donald Trump, was indicted by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg for no reason besides committing crimes. But Jim Jordan wasn't going to let that stand.

That's why, yesterday, he went after Alvin Bragg in Bragg's own backyard, right here in Manhattan. The House Judiciary Committee held a rare field hearing in New York billed as an examination of crime in Manhattan. Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan rallied against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. The policies being implemented by this district attorney are going to ruin this great city. You know, I'm surprised. One, that he admits New York is a great city.

Never thought I'd hear that. And two, that he actually held a hearing on crime. I was pretty sure ignoring crimes was Jim Jordan's whole thing. And considering the murder rate... Clap for ignoring sexual abuse allegations, I appreciate. Considering the murder rate is much higher in Columbus, Ohio, which is in Jim Jordan's neck of the woods, maybe he should have been holding crime hearings there, but even people from Ohio don't want to spend time in Ohio.

And I can say that because I'm from Michigan, and Ohio is our New Jersey. But there's still another guy out there who might be the most alpha male ever. He's Summit at Everest. He's the real life inspiration for John Wick and the current featherweight champion of the world. George Santos. Now, he just started his first term in Congress,

and absolutely no one wants him to run again. His constituents are embarrassed by him. Republicans want him to go away. Even the Dalai Lama said he wouldn't, he wouldn't suck his tongue. And the the the the th. And the th. And the th. And, and the the the th. And, and the the th. And, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the the th. And, and th. And, and th. And, and thi. And, and th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and the, and the, and the, and their, and their, and their, and their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their. And wi. And, their. their, thi. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, Republicans want him to go away, even the Dalai Lama said he wouldn't suck his tongue with a 10-foot pole. Which means there's only one thing a real alpha male would do. Embedled Republican in New York Congressman George Santer's going back on his word that he wouldn't run for re-election. Instead, he launched his campaign for re-election on his 100th day in office.

It's a beautiful day here in Washington, D.C. It's a great day to be an American. It's a great day to be a Republican, and it's a great day to announce re-election. Santos is under local, state, federal, and international investigation. Say what you want about Santos. But it's Uber alpha to run for re-election when you're as unpopular as he is. He's so unpopular, his campaign had to refund more donation than it's taken in. True, which means he's technically raised negative $3,000. You gotta give it to George Santos. He's the only elected official who's effectively taken money out of politics. All right, so who is today's raining alpha male to help me decide?

Please welcome Desi Lydde. Desi, Desi, Desi, which of these men do you think is the top alpha? Well, not to out alpha, you, Jordan, but none of them. These are all a bunch of beta bitches. Ron DeSantis, he's losing a fight with the happiest place on earth. I haven't seen Disney trample a leader like this since Mufasa. And Jim Jordan flew all the way to New York just to talk about how scared he is of New York. Relax, Jim. Go see. Go, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th- the, the, th- th- th- th- th- th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th th th, th th, th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which th, which the, which the of the of the of the of the of the theeeeea theea thea theea the the the the the of the of the thto New York just to talk about how scared he is of New York. Relax, Jim. Go see that Michael Jackson Broadway show. It also ignores abuse allegations.

You'd love it! Hold on. Desk, hold on. There has to be an alpha. Oh, I've got an alpha for you. Today's top alpha male is my girl, Senator Dianne Feinstein, and I'll tell you why. Roll it! The California Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein hasn't cast a vote since February because she's still recovering from shingles. Her absence is holding up President Biden's judicial nominees. Some Democrats called for her resignation. She's 89 years old. She's been away from Capitol Hill for seven weeks. The senior senator from California issued this statement, quote, I remain committed to the

job and will continue to work from home in San Francisco. Yeah, check out the truck nuts on die. That right there is an alpha. Okay, I don't get it. Diane Feinstein can't perform her duties on the Judiciary Committee and is refusing to resign. What, what is, what is alpha about that that th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their, I their, I their, I their, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't get it. Diane Feinstein can't perform her duties on the Judiciary Committee and is refusing to resign. What is, what is alpha about that? Well, thinking that no one else could do your job as good as you, even though you're barely doing your job, that is pure alpha male. That's some Logan Royce.

No spoilers. Okay, all right, but I'm giving you one more day and then I spoil it. Okay, fine, fine. Look, let's say this is a power move by Diane Feinstein, but there is more to being an alpha male than just not giving up your job. No, no, no, Jordan. It's not a job. It's a seat. She's in California right now, holding in Washington, D.C. This is the widest case. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to. the. to. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. thi. th case of man-spreading in human history. Fair, fair, but man-spreading doesn't make her alpha, it makes her a standard male. Oh, well, she's not just man-spreading her seat. She's also stopping 12 federal judges from taking their seats. Judges that could rule in favor for women's rights and preventing women...

From having rights is classic alpha male. Yes, there it is. Now I see it, now I see it. Now I'm seeing it. Okay. Got it. I see it. Yeah.

See, Top dog Diane is ripping a page out of the old boy playbook, grinding it up and snorting it right off a hooker's ass. I salute you, Diane. old boy playbook, grinding it up and snorting it right off a hooker's ass. I salute you, Diane. We salute you, Alpha Diane. Dizzy Leidick, everyone. All right, we come back, we'll take a look at the hot new way your kids can kill you, but don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. With all the guns in America, you might think that everyone who wants a gun has a gun.

So what is the gun industry doing to try to keep selling more product? I went to the world's largest gun show to find out in another edition of Fingers the Pulse. So, America, land of the free and home to an astronomical amount of mass shootings. So I went to the world's largest gun show in Tulsa, Oklahoma to investigate our unique obsession with guns. The bounty was plentiful. Small guns, big guns, Camelah Clips, Cattanas, show in Tulsa, Oklahoma to investigate our unique obsession with guns. The bounty was plentiful, small guns, big guns, Kamala Clips, katanas for some reason,

and more Nazi swag than Harlan Crow's guest bathroes. Eleven acres of guns. Seems weird to use acreage as a measurement of guns, but this is America. Barry, why are you here today? America. America. You're here because America dot, dot, dot. Yes, guns.

I feel like that's an American haiku. Little E. E. Cummings over here. What are you looking forward to? Relaxation. And being able to look at guns free. That's relaxing to you. It's sort of like your bonsai tree is looking at an array of guns.

Makes you zen. Makes me feel better. And this guy might as well have been at a meditation retreat, because they were selling guns everywhere, including the parking lot. You're gonna hopefully sell that inside? Do you need a license? Can you just kind of go into the gun show? And you try to find somebody who wants to buy it or you find what you want to buy it? And then if somebody's

like I'm interested I'll buy it, then what do you do? First of all, you kind of like look them over? Is that what a background check here in Tulsa? this isn't th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin that that that that that that that their you you that that you you you to you to you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you try? try? try? try? try? try? try? try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try to come to maliciously get guns mostly. Why not? I guess if I was like, I need to get a gun quick to do bad shit. This is actually exactly where I would come. How much is that going for? About 900. What if I came up there and was like, I don't know, I've had a little bit of a rough day. My wife just broke up with me. I'm feeling a little on edge. Well, I ain't gonna sell it to somebody that looks stupid, you know, or it looks like he's like crazy as shit, you know.

What if I say the words of somebody who's crazy as shit, but I look composed like I do right now? I'd probably sell it to you. Well, the selection of firearms was diverse, these days there's only one real star of the gun. What are you hoping to see? A-R-15s maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, the, the, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I I I I I's, thi, th. I's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. And, thi. And, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. th thii. And, thi. And, some tactical ones. I just want to add to it, make it more tactical, make it have some lasers or something. Why is AR-15 such a good gun? It's just cool. A-a-lott of people use them for day-to-day.

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Because in media it's portrayed that way. Well, no, but in schools, it happens that way. Was I misunderstanding this? If AR-15s aren't the real threat in America, what is? Look up, bicycle accidents. Look up, bicycle accidents. Coyotes, bears. Acid attacks. Acetats.

Are there mass acid attacks? I wouldn't say mass, but they do happen. Statistically, there are more murders committed in this country every year with hammers, baseball bats and other blunt fort objects than any handgun, rifle, shotgun, combined. Well, that statistic can't be correct. Automobile accidents, falls, poised. Two by fours, heavy books, a statue sitting on your table. Right, it seems like we should be looking all murder weapons from the game of clue

and then get to the other lower level ones like the AR-15. The more I talk to these people, the more I wondered if all of this tactical shit has always been a part of gun culture. That's a new thing. That's new. Yeah, that's a new thing. I went to Montana to talk to Ryan Bussie, who spent 25 years in the gun industry, but now advocates for gun safety. I'm deeply troubled by the firearms culture that's emerged in and around guns in our country now. It mirrors much of our political radicalization

and transformation as a country. The industry itself, prior to about 2005 or 2006, would not allow any kind of tactical gear, hardly any AR-15s, no bulletproof vests, no helmets, and its own trade shows. It seemed like the industry understood that propagating that kind of thing would lead to very bad ship. You bring an AR-15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 15 to a gun to a gun to a gun to a gun to a gun gun gun gun to a gun gun gun gun to a gun gun to a gun gun gun to a gun gun gun gun gun gun gun to a gun gun gun to a gun gun to a gun to a gun to a gun to a gun to a to to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. thia, thi understood that propagating that kind of thing would lead to very bad shit. You bring an AR-15 to a gun show in 2009 and you're a weirdo?

Yeah, just 2008 and 2009 is when the weirdo stuff starts wearing off, but yeah, you're a weirdo then. Now it's commonplace, now it's ubiquitous. But they used to be weirdos. They used to be weirdos, yeah. And AR, I know a lot of liberals think AR stands for assault rifle and the wrong, it stands for, are you looking at my small penis? Is that right? It stands for Armelot rifle, which is the first company that developed it. Armalite rifle? Yes. Yes. Liberals see the AR 15 and tend to think it's a weapon of war and it feels like I go to a gun show and people say it's for hunting, it's for sport. Who's right? Well, you just, all you have to do is look at the industry's own marketing. The industry sells it as an offensive weapon of war.

They're starting to market towards kids, right? Yeah, so, you know, guns have long been marketed to kids. the tauns trying to get kids involved in the shooting sports and in hunting, but what's different now is that's being marketed to kids through things like the JR 15, the junior 15, not the AR-15, the junior 15. It's a shrunken down kids version of an AR-15, yeah. A JR 15? Is that so little kids can stand up to government overreach? If you're worried about child grooming, the gun manufacturers are reaching out to the public. Here you got the marketing for the JR 15 to little kids. Check that out. Okay so we have pacifiers and a skull. Tactical pacifier. Tactical pacifier. Cute. Yeah my two and a half year old would be drawn to that. This is a magazine cover. You have the vicious skateboard attacker and the glorious father defending his terribly afflicted family. Was that one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one one the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too. the the. the their. their. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. they. they. t. too. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the his terribly afflicted family. Was that one in case Tony Hawk goes crazy? Yes. Honey get the

sword Tony Hawks here. So this is Pike's tactical ad it was a 2018 huge ad at the industry trade show. Guys in jeans, t-shirts, backwards ball cap, AR-15, staring down the protesters. Here you have Kyle Rittenhouse. Giens, backwards ball cap, AR 15, staring down the protesters. Here you have Kyle Rittenhouse, jeans, backwards ball cap, t-shirt, AR 15, shooting the protesters. This is two years apart? Two years apart. The marketing works.

I don't know how, if you can't draw a direct line between those two things, I can't help you. What are steps we can take to limit the number of mass shootings with weapons like the AR 15? I think like our politics, a lot of this is about voluntary social norms. Yes, legislation needs to be instituted to help reinforce some of these norms, but some of this is going to be on us. That's right, it is on us. So it shouldn't be too hard for all of us to come together and agree and agree to to to to to to to to to to come together together together to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be. to be. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. We. I. I. We. We. A. A to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to t t t t t to. to. the the to to. to to to to to to to to toe. to to to to to to to to to to to. us to come together and agree on what weapons should and should not be owned by the average civilian. Should we be able to buy tanks?

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Stay tuned, because when we come back, Charlie Cronkin will be joining me on the show. Don't go away. Thank you. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a critically acclaimed musician whose new album The Man from Waco Redux will be out on May 26. Please welcome Charlie Crockett. Please welcome Charlie Crockett. Charlie Crockett. Uh, welcome to the show. I've been a big fan for quite some time. Uh, you look to the show.

I've been a big fan for quite some time. Uh, you look great, by the way. I feel, I feel like I dressed down. You got a cool ass hat. Being a cool musician, is it ever exhausting to have to always look impressive? Do you ever want to just Adam Sandler it and just go cargo shorts? Well, my girl probably wishes I did that more often, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You are, you have an amazing story. I feel like your life is 11 country songs, fit into one life, right? And part of that story includes New York City. I know you came from Texas, spent some time in New Orleans,

but some time busking in New York City Subways. Is that correct? You got it. I apologize if I ever ignored you. My bad. If I could go back in time, I'd fix that. But tell me with that, going from that experience to what you do now on the road, interacting with audiences, what do you learn in a New York City subway? Well, I looked a little different back then. So I don't think you would have recognized me as the same man. I was definitely younger. And uh, actually the first time I ever played in this city. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. I. It's. I. I's the t. I's t. And actually the first time I ever played in this city, it's about 15 years back in Central Park. I had hitchhiked up here and I knew a guy from South Florida who,

these Brazilian guys actually, that I grew up with a little bit in Texas. And one of them had moved to Florida. And he had a buddy that was up here here working somewhere he lived in Spanish Harlem and I hitchhiked into town and they offered me a place, him and his lady, they offered me a place on their couch and they gave me like a week and so I just started wandering down around Manhattan and found myself in Central Park there and I'll spare you all the drama and trials and tribulations of those 15 years. But... Oh good, that's not good for TV anyway.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so, but back in September, the first bridge I ever played underneath in Central Park, I played about a hundred yards from it, just back this last September, open it up for Willie Nelson, so I felt pretty good. That's pretty good. I feel like there's a motif in a lot of your work about journey and I think a lot of your songs are about getting from point A to point B. I think your life seems to have been sort of a

journey around different parts in America. It's hard to even categorize some of your music. Would you call it folk, Americana, country? Well, you know, I definitely learned how to stand behind my guitar and playing on street corners, working farm parties. Farm parties? Yeah, like I don't even know what those are. Yeah, I'm not even, do I? Yeah, it's a hoe down at a farm. Yeah, I guess I could have put it together.

There's context clues there. Yeah. Well, I ended up doing a lot of physical labor, like in rural areas, especially in the Pacific Northwest. It's kind of where I learned to hitchhike. It was easier to get picked up on the highway. People are more likely, I guess to make bad decisions and pick up, I. to to to to to to make to make their to make their to make their to make their to make their their their to make their their their their their their their their their their to be to be to be their their, I their, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm their, I'm their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I. I their, I their, I their, I their. their, I their, I their. their. their, I their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. I'm not tipe. I'm not together, I'm together, I'm together, I'm together, I'm together together together together together together are more likely, I guess, to make bad decisions and pick up hitchhackers out there. And the people that embraced me, to be really honest with you, it was back when, you know, Gonja was still completely illegal. And I found my way onto those kind of farms. You know, that's what they meant by Big Rock, Canny Mountain. Is that what that was about? That's what they were talking about. Oh, you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, that's what they meant by Big Rock, Canny Mountain. Is that what that was about? That's what they were talking about.

Oh, you're destroying all my country illusions. Next thing you're going to tell me Willie Nelson is a pot smoker. Don't listen to Wayland Jennings. Okay, I won't get into Wayland then. A lot of your music, it know people ask me what my songs are about and I usually tell them the same thing, you know, two or three minutes. But then you don't fill them in whatsoever. Yeah. God damn it! These people who don't know how to make heart, they just comment on I really need you fill in those holes. On this album you referenced a songwriting credit with another man who came to New York,

slept on some couches, found his way in the folk scene back in the 60s. Robert Zimmerman, aka Bob Dylan. How does Bob Dylan find his way on your album? Well, you know, I called Bob up and told him I wanted to finish his song and uh, he, no, I've never met him before. That guy, not known for taking many phone calls. No, no, he definitely ain't picking up the phone to me. But actually what had happened was I was listening to these tapes they're called the Pecos

Blues Tapes and it was from, he scored an old Sam Peckinpah movie back in the early 70s called Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid and he said it was I think it's the only movie ever kind of scored start to finish and actually you can listen to those audio tapes there it's like a half of it was done in Durango Mexico and the rest maybe in LA you can hear like thus the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is th th th th is th. th is th. th. the the the the the. the. the. the. I the. I the. the the the. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the teaughea tea. I tea. I teckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckeckecke' the the the the the the songs you're like, this is the last movie I ever work on. You know, whatever. And anyways, I was listening to those and I heard this song that was about Billy the Kid, Billy the Kid's life, you know. There's a highway in between Austin and northern New Mexico that I've hitched down, driven my truck down, been on my bus, you know, driving up and down for many years

where they supposedly, billed the kid is buried, you know, and I think he was dead by the time he was 21 or 22, you know, and America's always been really fascinated with him. And I'd heard that Bob, you know, was fascinated by him. And the story was just really speaking to me, you know, it's like, and I'd written, I'd I'd come the I'd come the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their, I'd their, I'd their, I'd their, I'd their, I'd their, their, th.. their, their, th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, their, their, their, their, their, their, t.. We're, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, today, their, their, their, to me, you know? It's like, and I'd written, I'd come up with a verse to add to the song, which it's ridiculous to think you can add anything to Dylan's music, but this was a song that he didn't finish. It was like, it was like a verse and a half. And he never finished it and even on the record, they're like, what's this song going to be called Bobb. He's like, this one's this one's this one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's, th. This one's like, thi. This one's, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. It's thi. It's thin. It's thin. thin. thin. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. Turkey number two. You know, it's strange title, but like, Tom Turkey's kind of like a straw man or like a mark man, I think in the Old West is kind of what that would be.

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you know, even if you ain't ever, you know, held a gun in your life, you know? I feel a lot like Billy the Kid. I was afraid I the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thed. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. thi. I thi.time, you know. I was afraid I would die early like Billy the kid. It was a smoker, right? Is that what got him in the end? My history, my history is spotting. Smoking guns. It's been very nice. This song you're going to perform for us today. It feels like it's somewhat of a, I know, I won't ask you to have to go into it because you're not going to give me a straight answer, so I appreciate that. But a little bit of a, it looks at fame. And I do think in, like I said before, I know some of your music is about journeys getting to different places and you've bust.

I know you've got record contracts, you've left record contracts, you've found your own way. How much of it for you is it about getting to some final place? Is there is there a success for you that will let you forgive me to hit your horse and say giddy up or in for forgive me I'm not you know I'm gonna backtrack that he's from Michigan I'm from Michigan from Michigan is there is a success a landing spot or is it a journey for you? I've been doing this rambling piece that they've been working on in a Texas magazine for months and actually when we were up here in New York with Willie Not too far back, this journalist was up here with me and they'd interviewed everybody ever dealt with in the business

for the most part. And you know my first record deal I was discovered on our train here in Manhattan. By a big, by the big part of the machine, you know, and so on a way I... Not the subway you're talking about. The music machine? Yeah, the music machine. Okay, okay, okay. You know the machine I'm talking about. I know the machine I, the machine. Yes. And the big dogs. And so in a way, I guess I did beat the game, but you know, the deal that I dreamt of, like

you've heard many times before, it never is what you want it to be. And so anyway, they're doing this big piece on me now and people know I've been doing a long time. I've got, you know-14 records you know I've made a habit of telling record executives to you know kiss my behind. Actually last time I met up with one here in New York City he asked me if I'd ever been here before you know I'm 39 years old I've been here hundreds of times playing on the street here for five years you know but I felt like he didn he didn't, you know, I think he knew I'd been here, you know, he's just messing with me. But, um, this journalist was saying that every couple of my old managers,

they said, you know, they say, Charlie, man, they all said that you had a plan, they knew where you were going, you know, you knew you knew where you were where you were where you were where you were, you were, you were, you were, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. You were, th. You were, th. thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, th. You were, the the the the, the the the the, the, the, the, the, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, the, the, the, they............. the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thin, the the. the. the the the the the. the the the the. the the. You know, the reason that I started playing in public and on street corners in the first place was, this was a career of last resort. Hard luck and circumstances put me on street corners. I wouldn't be in this business if I'd had an easy way. And so there was no grand scheme to beat the game. The only, the only thing I ever wanted to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do the the the the the the the the the the the the to pe. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toeck.eck. Wea. Wea. I. I was peck. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I sa. I was. I was. I was pe scheme to beat the game. The only thing I ever wanted to do was keep playing. You know, was, you know, I'm not a cowboy. I'm a cowboy singer. And I just want to keep singing my cowboy songs.

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