The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jordan Klepper Covers Racist Oklahoma Officials Caught on Tape | Michael Shannon

Episode Date: April 20, 2023

Jordan Klepper tackles the latest headlines, including the implications of the Fox News and Dominion settlement, plus the racist recordings of Oklahoma officials caught on tape. Jordan Klepper goes back to his home state of Michigan to have a beer with Governor Gretchen Whitmer and discuss the future of gun reform and abortion rights in the state. Actor Michael Shannon discusses the importance of Waco and why he felt the need to revisit it in “Waco: The Aftermath". See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to the Danish show, I'm Jordan Clepper. It is my third night hosting the show and I'm finally starting to get some respect. This morning the show's security guy called me Mr. Clepper instead of Slenderman. It is my third night hosting the show. throwns, the show's security guy called me Mr. Clepper, so... Really making progress. We got a great show for you tonight. My guest tonight is Michael Shannon. So, let's get in the headlines.

Let's begin with Fox News, which yesterday agreed to pay $787.5 million for saying Dominion voting machines help Joe Biden steal the election. Although, now that more details of the settlement have come out, it turns out it's not all bad news for Fox. The deal sparing Fox from what would have been a very high-profile trial with some of the network's own stars, likely testified. Dominions legal team says there will be no on-air apologies or retractions on Fox News. In a statement, the network is saying, this settlement reflects Fox's continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. That's right, high journalistic standards like this.

The Green M&M daughter Bootsback, but apparently is now a lesbian, maybe? Look, I'm happy for Dominion, but Dominion was not the only injured party here. What about, you know, our faith in democracy? There are people who will not trust elections for the rest of their lives, and I have to talk to those people. I'm going to be argue with them at trump rallies every four years for the rest of my life. And you know what? I'm not naive. I didn't expect this lawsuit to restore our country's faith in elections. Or even for me to get a little cashola. No. But I was at least hoping to get a couple weeks of joy out of seeing Sean Hannity up there on the stand, sweating through his shirt like a beach manatee.

Would that have saved democracy? I don't know, but it would have been nice to see. But we're not gonna get any of that. They don't even have to apologize on air. And frankly, we deserve that. that. that. that. that. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to that. to that. to to to to to to that. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th that th that th. that that that that that that that that that that that that thi. that thi. that the the the the that the. the. the. the an the an that that the. that that to to to to to to to to to the an the an the an the an to apologize on air. And frankly, we deserve that, bare minimum. Yes, you deserve that. And you know what? If the settlement won't give it to you, then I shall. There's much fallout this evening, and there will be for months, we're admitting that we lied to you for saying the wrong things about the 2020 election. Why is that? Well, the truth is Donald Trump lost the election. No, we didn't tell you you you you you you you you you tel you you to to to to to th to to th th to th th to to th th th things about the 2020 election. Now why is that? Well, the truth is Donald Trump lost the election. And no, we didn't tell you because we don't care what you think.

Now we have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars. We were wrong. We are completely irresponsible, and we're sorry, I'm sorry for repeating something that was untrue. I'm sorry I just got to take a quick break and go cry in a closet while squeezing a stuffed animal. Thank you, Tucker. Well, sir. Let's move on, because luckily there are people out there doing the hard work of real investigative journalism.

People like Bruce Willingham. He runs the McCurton Gazette news out of middle of nowhere, Oklahoma. Now Bruce suspected that the local sheriff and other officials were doing county business after meetings ended. So he secretly recorded them. And when he played the tape back, he heard them talking about him and his son, who was also a reporter, and it was not flattering. The recordings captured the group talking about hiring hitmen to kill the reporters and

where the bodies could be hidden. I've known two or three hitmen, very quiet guys, and we're cutting old persons. Yeah. I know where two big depots are here or they're nearing. I got a hitter. Oh, tho. Holy shit. You can't threaten to kill journalists in a council meeting. Keep that shit on Twitter like a normal person.

Although you can tell that some people were a little more integral to this plot than others, because one guy was like, I know two hitmen. And another guy is like, and I know two holes. Yeah, thanks for the contribution, Larry. We'll let you know if we need to use your connection with the holes. And by the way, how strapped for time are people in this town that they have to pre-dig murder holes? Are you so fucking busy that you can't do the hole after you do the murder? Or maybe it's like carrying an umbrella? Like the day you don't have the hole is when you end up killing someone. Now look, it would be bad. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. the the th. th. that that that. the thathea. the the the tho the tho. And thoes. And thoos. And tho thathea, thoos. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And thoes. And tho. And tho. And tho. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thathea. And tho, thathea. And, tho, thoes. And, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes. And, toes don't have the hole is when you end up killing someone. Now look, it would be bad enough if plotting to throw local journalists into holes, pre-Dug, or otherwise, was all that the county sheriff and his friends were caught doing on these

tapes. But guess what? They moved on to something else. On that same audio recording, the people talking shared their dismay that lynching black people is no longer acceptable. mud creek hang them up with the damn rope. You can't do that. They got more rocks than we got. Wow. Someone tell these cops that they have the right to remain silent. And you can tell this thing was going to go badly as soon as they said back in the day. No sentence in the south ever goes well after the phrase,

back in the day. It's never like back in the day the day the day the day the day the day the South ever goes well after the phrase, back in the day. It's never like, back in the day, we lived in a rich multicultural tapestry. What's crazy is these reporters weren't even looking for racism and assassination plots. They were hoping to catch improper meeting procedures. It's like if you put a security camera up in the office to see which employee was stealing your yogurts and you caught them doing a human sacrifice.

You'd be like, oh my god, I've stumbled upon the most unholy rituals and oh my god, they're eating my chobani! For more on this story, we go live to Oklahoma and Roy Wood Jr. Roy! This is an astounding scoop. This is an astounding scoop. Shady sheriffs caught talking about murder, hitmen, being racist. What a story. And thank you for sending me exactly to where it happened.

Jordan, here's the thing. If you put a recorder next to any sheriff, any sheriff for just a few minutes, you're going gonna hear some racism that's why I don't trust I don't trust none of these sheriffs I don't trust Andy Griffith I don't trust Woody from Toy Story and I damn sure don't trust none of them Paul Patrol dogs they're are they all cops I don't know but either way I don't trust them and if I'm being honest, I'm kind of surprised that this recording wasn't more racist. Really? I mean, they were saying it's too bad they couldn't kill black people, like back in the day. Yeah, back in the day.

So we can't canceling people for reminiscing now? M-Boh, you can't take a walk down memory lane? That's all they did. Either way, they know they can't do it anymore. That's why when they was on tape, they were talking about killing white people. That's progress. That's what Martin Luther King was talking about. No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's what Martin Luther King was talking about. I had a poster of his speech They're talking about killing white journalists. We need to protect these lion-hearted, ivory-skinned, Michigan-born reporters, whoever they may be. Stop being a bitch, man! What you're so scared of, man? I'm not saying that they should kill white people. I'm saying we can agree that it's better than killing black people. No. Roy, we could not agree on that.

Oh, so you're saying it's better to kill black people. No, no, Roy, I'm not saying that. No, that's what you're saying. That's what you just said. Roy, I want them to kill us both equally, all right? Okay. These cops shouldn't be talking about their ta. anyway. Yeah, but can you blame them? Look at this small-ass, jay-k-ass building, man. They work in this building every day. If I had to spend my whole day in a space that small, I'd be racist, too.

Oh, tiny ass, no ventilation to have an ass place. Look, man, if you're a white man and your life has led you to a job, in this building, you've got to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame to blame You gotta blame somebody. That is where it be us. This looks like the third house from the three little pigs. Okay, right, right. Yeah, enough about the building. Let's talk more about the audio recording. Yeah, let's talk about the audio recording. Let's talk about the audio recording and how they weren't able to see a tape recorder

in this small-ass building. The tape recorder probably probablytook up half the room. You know they felt the heat from the batteries. They was probably in the room just looking up, oh, I'm sorry, what did you say about lynching? I can't hear you over this tape recorder. Okay. What do you think should happen to these officers,

Roy? I think what should happen So for the good of society we cannot entrust these types of people with protecting the citizens of Oklahoma. They have to be locked up. They have to be placed in solitary confinement because then they'd have more breathing room than they had in this damn tiny ass. You can't even farting this bitch. I'm sorry I'm sorry Roy Wood Jr. Everybody. You farting Mitch. I'm sorry, I ask. You farting us, Roywood, everybody. Roywood. All right, all right.

Well, we'll come back. I'm going home. Don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Florida gets a lot of attention because of how Florida it is, but it's not the only state out there. That's why I traveled to Michigan, my home state, to interview its governor, Gretchen Whitmer, about how she's making Michigan the opposite of Florida. But it's not the only state out there. That's why I traveled to Michigan, my home state, to interview its governor Gretchen Whitmer about how she's making Michigan the opposite of Florida.

Last fall, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer cruised to re-election win against a Trump-backed election denier. Democratic control of both the Statehouse and Senate allowed her to make unfettered progress on infrastructure, abortion rights, and gun regulations. And now just passed 100 days into her second term, I wanted to hear what's next, so I went back home to Michigan to lend my support to the vital local beer making economy. In Michigan, we pre-game with our friends and families before Wolverine Saturday, and now apparently before interviews with the governor.

We'll do a Michigan test to see your sobriety. Can you spell Ipsilaning? Y-P-S-I-N-A-R-B-O-R. Wow okay you pass that's great. Thank you. Governor is this sort of like an opposite A-O-C you're a successful politician becomes a bartender? Yeah I mean I'm'm going to have to have some skills after this is done. So I just want to remind you the governor cannot accept any cash tips, but I can. So whatever you want to leave, that'd be great. And remember, things cost three times as much in New York, so typically. Well, he should move back to Michigan Michigan Michigan. Chirifices. Curse. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. I. I. C. toe. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. toe. the. to. the. toe. toe. to. the. the. the. the.. Glad to be here with you. It's happy to be here in a Michigan health food store, a micro brewery.

It doesn't get better. It's Michigan agriculture, Michigan beer. Right? This is a special one to me because I'm from Kalamazoo and my little son took his first steps in the back of Bell's Brewery. Well, then did you put that in the baby book? Yeah. In Michigan, Michigan, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's Michigan, that's, that's Michigan, that's Michigan, that's Michigan, that's Michigan, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's that's that's that's a that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thiiiiiiaicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. thiauic. thiauicic. thiauiauicauic lot. So Michigan goes Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, it goes you overwhelmingly in 2022. What's happening in Michigan? We are the most diverse swing state in the country.

And I think that's what makes it so great. It's also why you've got to listen to people. You gotta try to solve problems instead of just feed fronzies and anger. Yeah, here in Michigan, the head of the GOP internally elected, Q&O it on sympathizer, election denier, calling Democrats demonic. Well, the head of the GOP to your point said that both Beyonce and yoga are satanic. You have to walk the line on satanic Beyonce? No, I'm always going to make it a seat at the table for someone who actually wants to solve

problems regardless of what their political meant is, but I don't have time for people who want to call Beyonce satanic. It's a big hunting culture here. You're about to pass some some big gun control measures here. What do you say to the gun owners here who still really, really want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to to the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tea. tea. tea. tea. tea.a. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. do you say to the gun owners here who still really, really want to kill deer? You don't need fancy words, you don't need any gimmicks. You can still hunt and enjoy, you can still be a lawful gun owner. Most gun owners believe that there should be background checks and safe storage. I mean, you know, Indiana has done this.

And these are not wild, you know, changes. It's just simply simply the the the the thi s s s s s s simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply simply just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to to the thi. the thi. the thi. the thi. the thi. this, and these are not wild, you know, changes. It's just simply trying to make people saver. I like how you say that. I mean, if Indiana can do it, we can do it. I mean, right? Abortion is usually a topic Democrats run from, or at least making a centerpiece of their campaigns. You did, and you've taken bold action on that. Is that a recipe for national elections?

The Midwest is a great place to see that you can win on abortion. People expect to have these rights. We've had them for 50 years. We expect our kids to be able to make their own decisions about their bodies and their futures. Now you repealed the 1931 abortion law. Yeah. Are there any other laws on the books from back then that are worth looking back into? Is there like a- Oh yeah, we got a lot of zombies.

Are they in there? Are there in there? Death penalty for swing dancing? Is that in there? Spring in Michigan means potholes are everywhere, and the governor has invested billions as part of her promise to fix the damn roads. As someone who blew a few tires here in my high school days, I knew it was my duty to help. All working men and women wear a car hurt.

And so does Jordan. And okay. All right, all right, governor. All right. Ready to do some work? Hey, you got kind of pretty shoes on. For me, I'd like to be foreman or whatever corporate person is in the air-conditioned office. Bellins, let me pull out my watch. What time is it?

Time to fix the damn roads. You know what this is right here? This is a spatula, right? No, this is what we call work around here. So we handing you a little work and I know you got nice pants on so try not to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their you their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the their. the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the the the the the the tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. tipe. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the the the the the nice paying soon, so try not to get too much work on. Yeah, if this is actually an impediment, I can actually stand and I can watch the work and see how it goes. Don't do that. Okay.

We pick some potholes, drank some Oberons, and perhaps most importantly, established that my home state is definitely not Florida. Other states are waging kind of wars against different parts you know, parts of their population. I think a lot of politicians just want to pick fights and get headlines and whether it's picking a fight with Mickey Mouse or moving backwards to the early 1900s, it's so much easier to show up and to listen to people and know it really matters. So we're trying to make Michigan a place where every business can thrive and every person has rights and freedoms to make their own decisions and to live the life they want and be successful here in Michigan.

You're progressive on guns on abortion rights. It feels like the Michigan hand. It's a welcoming hand. It is. It's a freedom. If Michigan is a hand, what is Florida? What? I mean, it looks like a... I looks like a i'm not going there

I'm just saying and it's your one peninsula it's one peninsula that's urinating on our democracy at times your words my words fairs stay tuned when we come back Michael Shannon will be joining me on the show, don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an Academy Award-dominated actor who can currently be seen in the show. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an Academy Award-dominated actor who can currently be seen in the showtime series Waco, The Aftermath. Please welcome Michael Shannon. Well, Michael, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. Now, this series, today's the 30th anniversary of the Waco Siege.

Yeah, and I know this series, you did a series that looked at the Waco Siege, and now this is revisiting it. It's the aftermath. What is it about Waco that made you want to return to this is revisiting it. It's the aftermath. What is it about Waco that made you want to return to this story? Well yeah I mean a lot of people when I told him I was making a sequel to Waco they said didn't you do it all? I mean that was the whole thing right and you know granted that was the event yes but obviously an event like that is like Like a meteor crashing into the earth, you know, it's gonna have

Seismic consequences and And I really think it's worth exploring, you know, these these incidents they don't just exist in a vacuum and they Everything is connected and everything leads to the next thing and and that's what was so worthwhile to explore. Yeah, I mean, you look at Waco and we?, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, like, like, like, the, the, the, the, like, like, th, like, like, like, th, like, like, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the the, the the, the, the, the the the the the, the the the the the the, the the the the they or they or they or they or they or they or they or theyor, theyor, theyor, thea, thea, thea, thea, like, thea, thea, theyorou, theyor, they connected and everything leads to the next thing and that's what was so worthwhile to explore. Yeah, I mean you look at Waco and Waco is sort of in many ways, if not the birth of the modern militia movement, definitely part of the trajectory for it, right? Yeah, and just sewing, you know, this distrust in the government. You know, a lot of times when I think about anarchy,

I think, what is it that really frightens people about anarchy? What is the thing that you would lose in a state of anarchy that is so significant? And the answer that I keep coming up with is, well, keeps you safe. Like the government exists in order to keep the population safe, taken care of and if the government isn't doing that it's really kind of worthless. Like there is no reason for it to exist and it does that in a variety of ways you know whether it whether it's, you know, the most obvious way is just keeping us safe from harm, but also helping us to take care of ourselves and be able to take care of ourselves and live somewhere where we don't have to worry about our

own well-being all the time. Like that's as far as I can tell why it's there. Yeah, I mean, I think in an ideal sense, yes, right? Now, I spend a lot of time out in the road. I talked to a lot of folks who have this inherent distrust in the government, right? They don't see it as something that serves a role to support and to protect. It's something you should be distrustful of. I think Waco is an experience that was complicating for a lot of folks. It was the government didn't handle it, perhaps the way they could have or should have. You even make the series at a time that was pre what happened in January 6th. The series originally looks at sort of this extremism.

And now since then we've seen what is extremism in a series like that now make its way onto the front pages, onto the steps of the Capitol. January 6th has now happened. How does that affect approaching telling the story again? the's just makes me wonder, like, because things keep happening that you think there's no way this could ever happen? And then it happens. And so I'm like, well, what's next? What's the next thing after January 6th? And what's fascinating is is if the fellow I'm playing Gary Nessner who's an actual

real person has an incredible book. I highly recommend everybody read called Stalling for time. But Waco is one chapter in his book, as like I said, as cataclysmic an event as it was, it's only, he's got all these incidents that he's dealt with over the years on micro and macro levels. And he is very reluctant. He's not looking to vilify anybody or say, oh, you know,

and he would agree that that situation in Waco was an incredibly complicated situation. And he has doubts himself about how he handled it. He certainly has doubts about how other people handled it. But he doesn't think there's like a big bad wolf or anything like that. But, um, I think it just, it just, it just, it just, um, and he's, you, you, that, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, it just, and he.. And, it just, it just, it's just, it's just, and he, and he, and he, that, and he's, and he, and he's, and he, and he's, that, that, that, that, that, and he's, and he, that. And, and he, and he, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, but he doesn't think there's like a big bad wolf or anything like that. But I think it just, it's extraordinarily compelling, I think this story, and I think it's extraordinarily valuable to realize that no matter how outlandish an event is, that there is something even more outlandish just around the corner.

And I think that that's, I think that's why the story is worth keeping in the forefront of our minds. I also think it's worth it. You're telling that because you're a storyteller and you're like, next seat, like, you want, you've gotten two things already, and you think you've seen this so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so this this this so this so Like you want, you've made, you got, you got in two things done as already, you're like, and you think you've seen this so far. The after aftermath, are we pitching it now? Well, there are actually, you know, Gary and I, because Gary and I have actually become very good friends. But you bought the IP, I see what it is. Okay, yeah, yeah, all right.

Well Gary, I think it's important to point out too that I'm absolutely nothing like Gary. Like I don't look like Gary, I don't sound like Gary. You like the second, third, fourth choice? Is that what to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Danny DeVito, Fisher Stevens and then me. Yeah, they're always grabbing your good little old, yeah, yeah, well, I'm like a catch-basin, you know, I get what nobody else wants. But, but, he's like, yeah, we've got to make all the chapters in the,

there's, there is a great potential for season three, but I'm not going to ruin it to tell you. If you read the book, you'll figure it out. But anyway, and the only other point I wanted to make this, and I've heard other people of friends of mine say this particularly the Daudals, the Daudal Brothers who made the show who are just John and Drew are just beautiful, beautiful people and they really really care like it's not easy to make a show like this. There's going to be a lot of resistance. It's like really it's kind of a drag. You want to just, you know, like yeah yeah we need to do this and like resistance because it's inherently a political story yeah that's part of it it's also

unpleasant you know it's it's pretty darn unpleasant it's Texas but I think one of the things is valuable also about it is that it proves that no matter what side of it of this debate or issue that you're on, everyone is capable of having a flawed perspective. Everyone is. And that that's also an important thing to remember. And a lot of people pay lip service to that. It's like, well, it's not until we reach across the aisle or whatever, find a common ground.

But I think it's really interesting in this situation, in this story, to see how that really is not easy to do for either side and how complicated that truly can be in practice, not just as like a catchy slogan, but something that you actually do. Yeah, well, it's vulnerable to secede any kind of ground, right? So, yeah, the admitting that your point of view might be flawed could put you in a position where you suddenly now lose ground to this other side. I feel like we're constantly fighting those battles today. Well, particularly when there are actually lives on the line. It's not just Thanksgiving and you're not threatening to throw sweet potatoes at your uncle.

You know, it's like there are people in a very life and death situation and decisions have to get made very quickly. Now, switching gears a little bit here. I'm from Chicago. I know your reputation. I saw you in Chicago perform, not only are you wonderful on the big screen, but also live in theater. And I know not only do you do live theater. I know you also perform music.

You cover historic bands and their historic albums. I know you also do improv. Is there something? We had a what? What? Yeah, it's sort of, I'm assuming it's like a whose line is anyway type situation, a lot of props and a lot of, I'm kidding, I wouldn't insult long-form improv that way. I ride the pacifier.

It's funny to see a grown man with a pacifier. Are you drawn to that types of things? I feel like you're known for more, for your heavier more dramatic performances. Do you sort of have to indulge the other side? Oh, gee, I don't know. I feel like I don't do enough. Like there's things, like I should try other things, and keep diversifying my portfolio as a word. But then I think, well, you hear a lot of thia thia thiiiol out thia thiol out, thiol out, thiol out, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, then I think, well, you hear a lot of times just stay in your lane, you know, whether that's with your work or your opinions or whatever, you know, just stay in your

lane. So I'm kind of conscious of that too. Like, the music stuff, people are always like, what happened to your band or what's going on with that? And I was like, it just started to feel like, like, because, I mean, who wants to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the to the music, to to to to the music, to to to to the music, to to their, their, to their, their, to to their, to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tape.a.a.a.a. tape. their, their, their, their, their, their, well I just started to feel like, like, because I mean, who wants to, the actor bands are like, I'm embarrassed by them and I'm an actor, so I don't, I don't want to participate in that. Like I remember when I, and I freaking love Kevin Bacon so much, but I remember seeing like the Bacon Brothers on Jay Leno, I was like, I know, you hear like, I hear like, I hear Joe Sc, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th tho, tho, tho, tho, who tho, who thus, who thus, who the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, than, like, like, like, the Bacon Brothers on Jay Leno. I was like, oh God. I know you hear like, I hear Joe Scarborough talk about his band and you're like, God bless. Go, go with God there, Joe.

Go with God. Or certain people that I won't mention who come into the makeup trail in the morning and they say, hey, have you heard my album? And then they put it on while everybody's getting is is is is is is is is getting is getting is getting is getting is getting is getting is getting is getting their thiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, thi, thi, their, thi, th. thi, th. th. th. thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th....... th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to, to, the. the. to, to, to, to. to. to. to. to. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. to, to, go, go, go, go, go, go, make you listen to the record. You haven't done that. But I said I wasn't going to mention the name. I didn't want to incriminate myself. Tell me this, Michael Shannon. Tell me there has been a moment where you have walked up very seriously and asked somebody to come to your improv show. Will you?

I never, no. Well, I'm usually writing someone else's a to, to, to, to, to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, I, thi, I, I, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, thi, thi, the the thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I'm, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I.............. And, I, I, I, I, Iattails though, as you know, I'm performing oftentimes with two of the legendary improvisers of all the time, Dave Pesquazin, T.J. Gaddowski. Yep. Yes. So, I mean, you can basically just stand on stage and actually just stand on stage and you drool on your shoes and it'll be like, bravo, you know you know nobody's watching you anyway. I think though you're not truly an improviser until you beg somebody to come to one of your shows. Yeah yeah yeah that's true. Yeah. Well and you because you did the I. I the I. O. I did. Yeah.

They would have like 500 shows a day yeah. Yeah it was like one after the other after the other. sure you came to see some of that too. Well that's it's a little corporate isn't it? It's got a little... Uh-oh am I in trouble now? It's not corporate it's just owned by venture capitalists now. So if that's an important...Corpore it then yeah maybe it's corporate. Well I'm glad you could come on here and help me burn down any bridges I have in Chicago. Uh, oh, uh, oh, God. I'm everyone's favorite arsonists. If you really come in, on the anniversary of a siege, you came here and you took it to the ground. I appreciate that.

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