The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jordan Klepper Heads to the MAGA Frank Rally | Mary J. Blige

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Trevor explores the impact of streaming on the music industry, Jordan Klepper attends the MAGA Frank Rally organized by Mike Lindell, and Mary J. Blige discusses "Mary J. Blige's My Life."Donate at d...ailyshow.com/TrevorProject to support The Trevor Project in providing suicide prevention, crisis intervention and education, research and advocacy programs for LGBTQ youth. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:30 From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. Here in the United States, we are now on the cusp of summer. That magical time of year when you're reminded how ugly everyone's feet are. And while there's a lot to love about summer, thanks to climate change, there's also going to be more than ever to hate. Historic Heat, record-smashing temperatures across the west. 101 in Denver, 107 in Salt Lake City,
Starting point is 00:04:08 Death Valley approaching the hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth. The oppressive stifling heat waves searing the West is tonight delivering some of the most dangerous temperatures of the year, threatening to shatter nearly 200 records through the weekend. Some 40 million Americans already under heat advisories, watches, or warnings. Some experts are warning of pavement burns.
Starting point is 00:04:32 A burn center in Phoenix says sidewalks and roads could heat up to around 180 degrees there. Nevada and Arizona were warning people, do not walk barefoot anywhere. Don't walk your pets in the heat of the day. And take a towel with you for grabbing and opening door handles. The National Weather Service also gave out this warning to people out West saying, quote, no easy way to say this, so we'll just cut straight to the chase. It's going to be very hot for a long time. That's right. Very hot for a long time. Also known in meteorology circles as the Halle Berry phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And guys, if we don't do something about climate change, very hot for a long time, is going to be the weather forecast for the rest of the century. It'll be the first thing we tell every baby born from here on out. Welcome to the world, baby. It's gonna be hot for a very long time. I mean, it is dangerously hot out there right now, people. In some places, the sidewalk is 180 degrees Fahrenheit. You've got to be insanely careful at that temperature.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I mean, look at what happened to this guy who just went outside to check his mail. So like people, I just hope that everyone stays safe and everyone listens to the experts on this one because heat is no joke and I know Americans. A lot of Americans don't like being told how to protect themselves. First it's masks, now they're making us wear shoes. Scientists can't tell me what to do. I'm going outside. Ha ha ha ha, ha, take that Fauci! Now, of course, climate change isn't the only threat to humans on the planet. There's also asteroids, God's WMDs. But now, NASA is a step closer to at least knowing when they're coming. NASA approved the launch of an asteroid hunting space telescope to help prevent potentially
Starting point is 00:06:26 dangerous collisions. The new aircraft would use infrared technology to detect most of the potentially hazardous asteroids and comets that come within 30 million miles of Earth's orbit. According to NASA, there are already more than 25,000 near-Earth objects, but scientists believe there's many more waiting to be discovered. The NEO's surveyor is scheduled to launch sometime in 2026. Shhh, dude, what are you doing? Don't tell them it won't launch until 2026. Now the asteroids know they've got five years to light us up. What are you doing? I mean, look, I'm glad that they got this theles tha the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the Now the asteroids know they got five years to light us up. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:07:05 I mean, look, I'm glad that they got this telescope going, but the bad news is that all it can do is see the asteroids coming to us on Earth. We don't have any way to stop them, right? We're helpless. So Earth is basically just going to be me when my mom was coming at me with the belt. What we should be focusing on is not asteroid detecting technology. We need asteroid destroying technology because people we cannot, and I mean this, we cannot let an asteroid wipe us out. The dinosaurs are going to roast the shit out of us in heaven! Well, well, well, look, who's also a bunch of fuzzles now? Oh, did the asteroid not care that you had opposable thumbs? He he, to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:07:56 if we can't do anything to stop the asteroids, I would rather not be warned that far in advance. Like, I want to know maybe five hours before the asteroid hits. You know, it gives me time to get home, be with my loved ones, spend my lost moments hugging them, you know? Oh, I'll see you on the other side, guys. I love you so much. But if we find out we're going to die in a month, I mean, that's just too far away. I can't hug my family for that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that long. I love you. I love you guys so much.
Starting point is 00:08:27 You guys want to go watch Loki or something? I heard it like wraps up a lot of the end game story. Still, this telescope is an amazing technological achievement. Although as we're starting to see, the major flaw of every piece of advanced technology is that at some point, it will probably get hacked. And that includes everyone's favorite stationary bike that went to college, the Peloton. Peloton users may be vulnerable to hackers accessing their information. The company is warning of a new security threat relating to the touch screen on their bike plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. Plus. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their information. The company is warning about a new security threat relating to the touch screen on their bike plus. Wouldn't it be creepy you're working out suddenly somebody
Starting point is 00:09:07 could see you? Cybersecurity company McAfee discovered the flaw. The company says hackers could access the user's screen and could potentially spy on riders using the microphone and camera feature. The threat most likely affects bikes used in public spaces that have public Wi-Fi, such as hotels or gyms, still very creepy. Uh, yeah, that's definitely creepy. I don't want some Russian hacker taking over my Peloton spin class. Give me 10 Bitcoin or I will push you harder than you've ever been pushed. But I don't have 10 Bitcoin. Okay then.
Starting point is 00:09:45 We're doing the mountain level. Faster, faster. thuster. Believe in yourself, Trevor. You've got to admit, though, that's got to be the absolute bottom rung of the hacker hierarchy, right? Because you've got hackers who are shutting down the oil industry, and then you've got other hackers who have all of Facebook's user data. And then you've got one guy who's like, I watched Karen Silverman Biker 5K.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, big time. Like my question is, why would you want to hack into someone's Peloton camera? We're in the golden age of television, and you'd rather watch someone's bike face for half an hour? But let's move on now to our main story. It's about Spotify, the app with the entire history of recorded music that you only used to listen to four songs that you liked in high school.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Spotify and other streaming services have made listening to music as easy as shoplifting from a Walgreens. Yeah, you walk out with the thing, all that happens is a beeping sound. And that's why we love streaming, right? I love it. And you probably love streaming too. But you know who doesn't love it as much? A lot of the musicians you're actually listening to. Yeah. The question is, why? Well, let's find out. In another edition of, If you don't know, now you know. Now you know. Streaming is a huge part of our lives now. The two most important events on the calendar at this point are probably your birthday, and the day Spotify rapped tells you how basic your musical taste was that year.
Starting point is 00:11:22 In fact, it's so much a part of our lives that it's hard to remember that things used to be very different and not so long ago. The internet has changed so many aspects of media consumption, but few have had a more tumultuous relationship with these changes than the music industry. CDs became the standard medium in the 1990s. At the same time, home computers were becoming more commonplace.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Software like Napster paved the way for a new era of piracy. CD sales plummeted as more and more people logged on. With the introduction of the iPod and MP3 players, the industry did see a boost from digital downloads, but it wasn't enough to make up for the dwindling physical format sales. The breakthrough came in 2011. Instead of buying and owning songs and albums, we started listening to ads or paying monthly fees in exchange for access to essentially all the music in the world. Online streaming music became an $11 billion industry.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Making up 56% of global music industry revenues in 2019, Spotify has dominated the streaming music industry with about 130 million premium subscribers worldwide. In 2017 alone, Spotify users streamed over 40 billion hours of content. Damn, 40 billion hours? You think in that amount of time humans could finish Spotify. Hell, you could finish sounds. After 40 billion hours, you've heard everything.
Starting point is 00:12:52 From Kanye to the sound of six squirrels having a knife fight. Or maybe that's still Kanye. But the change that brought us to this point happened so quickly. And you know who I feel worse for is all those people with huge CD collections? Because you realize overnight they went from Music Officiado to Creepy Horder, you want to see my CDs? And don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong. I like streaming way better than CDs.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And I think it's much better than downloading the music illegally. You remember those days? Like when it was Napster and all of those? That shit was the Wild West. Every file you downloaded was a mystery. Okay, well, either this is gonna be who let the dogs out, or a video of a man spreading his butt hole. And a moment of truth. Oh, thank goodness, it's just the butthole.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So streaming has been the best thing to happen to the music industry since the government created LSD. But even as these services have arguably saved music, they're not exactly sharing the wealth. Even though in America, people are spending more money than ever before on music, musician pay is at an all-time low. While the music industry reportedly made a whopping $43 billion in 2017, the bands and artists themselves only walked away with a mere 12% of the cut.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Spotify pays close to 70% of its revenues to the people who own the rights to the music. That's usually the recording labels. The amount artists receive on a single play is minuscule. On Spotify, that number is somewhere around 0.004 cents per play. Dozens of young artists coming to me on Twitter every day going, I've got however many million plays, I have 200,000 monthly listeners, I do not make minimum wage. Allo Black co-wrote the 2013 hit song, Wake Me Up.
Starting point is 00:14:48 It quickly became one of the most streamed songs in Pandora's history. But in an article for Wired Magazine, Black wrote, in return for co-writing a major hit song, I've earned less than $4,000 domestically from the largest digital music service. $4,000 for a number one hit. Guys, you know the music industry's messed up. When the guys singing your songs on the subway make more money off of it than you do. You realize if this keeps up, rappers are going to have to start being real about how rich they are.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, they're going to be in the studio like, what's 50 grand to a motherf-fixie-like- you please remind me? Well now that I think about it, that's more than 120% of my net worth because of post-tax if I look at my net versus my... Yeah, that's... Oh man. Now, Spotify says that it's actually good for small artists because it makes it so easy to discover new music. And yeah, I mean, exposure is great. If you're an artist, you want your work in front of as many people as possible. That's why Banksy is always doing his street art in big cities like New York, and not in places no one goes to, like the break room at an Amazon warehouse. And most people probably think that if they discover some obscure new band
Starting point is 00:16:03 and then listen to nothing else for weeks, then that that to get all of the money that they pay to Spotsify that month. But unfortunately, that's not how it works. The average listener, if you are listening to us 500 or 800 tracks a month, probably only about two books of your 10 books is going to the music that you listen to, the rest is going to music that you don't listen to. Spotify doesn't pay artists per stream. Instead, the company takes all of the money it earns and puts it into one pie. Then it uses a complex formula to divvy that pie up between the artists with those who get the most streams basically earning the most money, meaning a band has to share a pie with the Drak's and Taylor Swifts and Ed Sheerons of the world, who, you can imagine, eat a lot of pie. How big of a song do you have to have to make like reasonable royalties off of streaming?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Do you have to be Drake? You have to be Drake? Is that the answer? That's the answer. Whoa! You have to be Drake? No, people. that's. That's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. to. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be Drake. to be Drake. to be Drake. to be Drake. to be Drake. to be Drake. to be Drake. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the their their their the the the the the thea. the the the the the the the the the the the thea.a. the theate. theate. the. the. too much. I don't know how many artists have the emotional range to be both the biggest pimp on the planet and also depressed because she won't text me back. But that's right, even if you are way too cool to listen to the top 10 artists on Spotify, they still get most of your money. And the bands that you do listen to get almost none of it. Which is unfair to the musicians, and it's especially unfair to music snobs. Actually, I don't do pop music. I prefer indie bands. Well, I'm sorry to tell you, dude.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You just paid for Ariana Grande's new fridge. And because the system is so messed up, artists are now trying to change it. Some want to renegotiate contracts with their record labels to give artists a bigger cut and more control over their music. Others want to make it so that artists get paid at least a penny per stream or change streaming royalties to work more like radio. And some artists are just doing cool shit like this. In 2014, funk band Wolf Peck capitalized on a Spotify loophole by asking users to stream its completely silent album Sleepify on repeat while they slept. Collecting 20 grand and royalties
Starting point is 00:18:10 with songs like this one. Take a listen. You actually heard that right. The band later used the money to fund an admission-free tour for their fans before Spotify pulled the album. Now that is genius. An entire album of Dead Silence. Or as Mike Pence calls it, his sex playlist. It's time to hug, mother, nudy nude. And you know what, props to their fans who streamed this album so many times that the band made $20,000.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Because it's a great idea. And the more I think about it, it's also a great album. Yeah, I can think of at least 10 coworkers who should definitely sing this at our next karaoke. Yes, Jordan, I'm talking to you. But obviously, gaming the system isn't a real long-term solution. And in fact, for now, maybe the most important thing for artists to do is just get the word out to their fans. So when we saw that the great Allo Black is one of the singers who's been speaking out
Starting point is 00:19:10 about this, we asked if he wanted to record an update to his hit song, I Need a Dollar. And that's is what I need. Well I need a dollar, dollar, because streaming ain't working for me. Well I need a dollar, Mr. Spotify tell me, please. Ain't nobody bought my CD since before 2003. Let me tell you a story is going to sound a little bit dumb. One million streams will buy you a brand new pack of gum. The labels are making money, the streaming services too.
Starting point is 00:20:04 But if you wrote the song and singing, all they got is five cents for you. Well I need a dollar, dollar, dollar is what I need. Say I need a dollar because streaming ain't working for me. My album's out now and everybody's listening. But there's just one little thing that seems to be missing. And that's for someone from somewhere to pay me. I need a dollar, dollar, dollar, that's what I need. I need a dollar, am I really going to have to plead.
Starting point is 00:20:47 The system just ain't working. It must be some mistake when the only way I could get paid is to change my name to Drake. So come on and share your dollar with me. Spotify, share your dollar with me. Apple, share your dollar with me. Amazon, share your dollar with me. Anyone share your dollar with me. Apple, share your dollar with me. Amazon, share your dollar with me. Anyone, share your dollar with me. Said, I need, I need, I need a dollar.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Hello Black, everyone. Remember to stream his music while you're awake and while you sleep. All right, when we come back, Jordan Klepper interviews the My Pillow guy about how he's helping President Trump return to the White House in August. Wait, August isn't it? Wait, what? Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast.
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Starting point is 00:22:59 I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. One of Donald Trump's biggest supporters is the My Pillow Guy, Mike Lindell. Even now, the My Pillow Guy is out there holding pro-Trump rallies and predicting that Trump will be back in the White House by August. Now we wanted to figure out how that's going to happen, so we sent Jordan Klepper to
Starting point is 00:23:33 ask him in another episode of Fingers the Pulse. Donald Trump has been promising to start up his rallies again, but until he does, his supporters will have to settle for the next best thing. The My Pillow Guy. Yes, my Pillow founder and Trump supporter Mike Lindell put together something he called the Maga Frank rally. So I traveled to New Richmond, Wisconsin to see a bunch of right-wing all-stars, the ex-president on a Jumbotron, and obviously, buy some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some-skkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk th.a-sk thrak thrak thrak thrak thrak thanananananan.a-sk thrak of people gathered in a field to see a bunch of right-wing all-stars, the ex-president on a Jumbotron, and obviously, buy some pillow sway. It's got an amazing lineup.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Who's your favorite with the lineup? Um, probably Mike Lundell. We're just excited to see Mike. He speaks the same truth that we believe. Mike is a true hero. You know, they, they, they, they, they, they claim, you know, the doctors and nurses are that, but my own sisters are retired RN, and we're not talking right now because of her beliefs. So when it comes to heroes, there's doctors, there's nurses, and then there's the pillow guy.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah, yeah. What have you learned from Mike Lindell? He's a true blue, red, working American man. Which, which color? Blue and true. th. th, th, th, th, blue, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thu. thu. thu thi thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, is thi, the thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is th, is a th, is a th, is a th, is a th, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, is a true, thr- is a thr- is a thr- is a thiell? He's a true blue, red, working American man. Which color? Which color? Blue and true. He's a blue and true red-blooded white man. That he's, you know... Got them all in there? Yeah. Mike Lendell has guarded plenty of attention by focusing on one thing.
Starting point is 00:24:58 When this election, when all this fraud is opened up that I already know exists. And sure his claims of dead people voting in Georgia and vote flipping in Michigan have been debunked by various news outlets. Still, these people were eager for more pillow talk. What is Mike Lindell talking about that you agree with? Well, just the whole fraud. He's got the proof. The proof is there. What makes you know that Trump won?
Starting point is 00:25:23 His own Department of Justice says there was no fraud. Just, well... So you don't trust the Department of Justice? Oh, no. You trust my pillow guy? Well, I wouldn't go quite that far to say, you know, I trust what he's saying. You do you tr far. Yeah. That's exactly where you at. Yeah. I think that we still need to find out what's going on. We still need to look back at what happened.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Haven't we already done that? Well, there's history sometimes. We have to. We have to. their history, like we do in school. It's important to look So you support critical race theory? No. And Lindell's newest election claim is his juiciest. President Trump coming back in 2024,
Starting point is 00:26:12 I'm still sticking to August of this year, everybody. That's my opinion. And why did they think of that? That would be nice, would it? But I don't like to get my hope up. I think the country the country country country country country country country country the country the country the country the country the country the country the country the country the country th c c c c c, I th c, I don't th c, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't th is th is th. I don't like, I don't th. I don't thi, th. I to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to th. th. th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, the the the an thean thean thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. the an thi. hope up. I think the country is going to pot right now. Not the country, I grew up in. What country did you grow up in? The land of the free.
Starting point is 00:26:30 The United States of America in the 60s. Things were better in the 60s. Oh yeah, 70s, 60s, 70s. Yeah, in the 60s we knew which drinking found the drink from. If Trump is reinstated in 2021, do you think that Democrats will accept it and allow our nation to heal? I think there's going to be a lot of whining still? They're just not going to let it go. They're going to be whining in a field months after everything's already decided.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Anyway, are you excited about being out here in a field to watch Trump on a JumboTron? Is he going to be on the jump truck? We don't even know who fucking knows. I'll tell you who might know, the man who paid for a military plane flyover. Are they, when are they? They're a surprise in the sky here in about, a minute. 30 seconds. It's gonna happen any minute. Are they coming? Can they see him? What's up?
Starting point is 00:27:28 We're going to see? All right here. All right, all right. All right, we're going to start right now with Brandon Lydos and God bless America. So the planes might not be here yet. But, according to Lindell, thanks to so-called white hat hackers, he already received the evidence that would lead to Trump's imminent reinstatement. I told the whole country a month and a half ago that Donald Trump will be back in in August.
Starting point is 00:27:54 You still believe that? This is the crime of the century you're describing and they came to the my pillow guy. No they didn't come to me they came to me on January 9th but I seen the evidence. But but they still they they still came to you. Because let me tell you nobody came to me until that day and here's what happened. I had my own investigations I had all my stuff going on and nobody talked about the machines we talked about dead people non-residents all the organic thrown. Is this helping Mike? This is this here is a I already have the evidence you know what this is doing do you guys get it? It's perpetuating anger, fear and and attack it our democracy. No you know what you are by saying
Starting point is 00:28:36 that let me tell you something this is a free speech rally okay my platform frank speech for all the individuals whether they're Democrat or Republican right now if you talk about for all the individuals, whether they're Democrat or Republican right now, if you talk about machines, vaccine, the border, Jesus, you speak out for anything, and YouTube, and Vimeo, and people like you guys, a journalist, suppress it, cancel us or try and destroy something good that's coming out of this. This is a free speech rally.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Did you call, are you trying to say this a Trump rally? It says Megga is in the title and he's speaking at it. No, you know what, he's speaking. You got his picture on the poster, Mike. Yeah, he got suppressed. Unproven election fraud claims have caused real problems in our country. And just last week we learned that elections were receiving death threats? I mean? I'm Secretary of State of Georgia. Not me. I'm saying there are people because of the conversations that are happening, the elongation of
Starting point is 00:29:29 this process, we're now being threatened. Are you talking about Brad Rassaburger? Yes. Brad Rassaburger and Brian Kemp were in on this. Are you kidding? I don't know. I'm asking you because you apparently the one that... You need to understand. That's a deviation. Why wouldn't you guys when I was kicked out... Do you either want to be the guy everybody comes to or not the guy everybody comes to? Because you have answers for being the guy that the cyberpunks come to, but you have no other
Starting point is 00:29:55 answers? If August doesn't happen, what do you say to these people? Then the states are going down because they're doing audits in every steel. Pennsylvania is doing us, they're going here in Wisconsin, Mayor Cope will get done. Everywhere they've done an audit, like in New Hampshire, every place that we've done audits that we've got, the machines, it's the same thing every one. So there's a plan. It's like watching that Bigfoot show. They don't find Bigfoot at the end, but if you tune, you, you, you, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, thu to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too, too, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th. th, th. th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th an th an thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. the, the. tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Every the, than, like than, like too You guys are horrible. Oh, oh. I wanted to talk about his pillows.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Thank you so much for that, Jordan. All right, when we come back, the legendary Mary J. Blige will be joining me on the show. So don't go away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free at Zip Recruiter's smart technology, their
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Starting point is 00:31:39 When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Starting point is 00:32:13 My guest tonight is Grammy-award-winning singer, songwriter, and actor, Mary J. Blige. She's here to talk about her new documentary that explores her early days in the music industry and the making of her iconic 1994 sophomore album, My Life. Mary J. Blige, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you. Wow, there are a few people I get to interview or get to speak to who have made more of an impact not just in a genre or in music but in in society you are a soundtrack to periods of time. You are a soundtrack to emotions and feelings that human beings have experienced over many, many, many years. I mean, you know, with eight multi-platinum albums,
Starting point is 00:33:00 with nine Grammy awards, with two Oscar nominations. The list is endless. You are truly the Queen. And now, for the first time ever, we get to see you telling your story in a way that we never have before. My Life, The Documentary, Mary J. Blige. Why the story and why now? Well, about two years ago, the whole world was celebrating the 25th anniversary of my life album.
Starting point is 00:33:25 People were giving testimonies online and, you know, people, I was running into people and, you know, the whole thing about, you know, this album saved my life again was coming back up again. So it was, it was time and I felt like it was important to do it years later, you know, Niles and I both were on the royalty tour and he was celebrating his 25th anniversary of the Ill-Matic. It was just so special, like, it was just time, it was just time to tell the story because I'm coming from a place of strength now. So now I go back and revisit and, okay, it's going to hurt and all that stuff, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:02 to revisit all those painful times, but I'm strong enough now because I've been through so much help that I can talk now. It's really interesting that you bring that up because for many people, that's what my life was. What you were talking about was less of a facade. It was this is my life, this is my pain, this is what I'm going through. Looking back on it now, do you think that was cathartic for you as a person, or do you think it made you relive the pain constantly as you were singing those songs?
Starting point is 00:34:31 It was both, because I didn't know how to get out of the pain, you know, but it was something I had to do in order to start the healing process without even knowing I was healing. So just putting my pain out there and stuff like that was like a cry for help. And then when all the fans responded, it was like, oh wow, now it's a responsibility subconsciously because I can't make anything for you because I'm still in pain, I'm still in hell.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So it was, it did so many things that I didn't know what was doing, you know, because while I was in it, I was in it. It was dark, it was suicide, it was all types of stuff. But then the fans were like, it's saving my life. And now when I look back, like, years later, I'm like, wow, I didn't know I did so much. Yeah, you know, I would love everyone to watch this documentary because what you tho, tho, tho. You show us what went into Mary J. Blige, my life in a way that I don't think we ever ever would have thought. I mean you show us your journey growing up, you know, struggling through poverty. We see your life when drugs become a big hindrance in your world. We see you going through a world of domestic abuse. We see all of these things happening to you as Mary Jay Blige and it's hard to believe that you survived. Was there a time when
Starting point is 00:35:48 you didn't think that you would see the other side? Yeah, during my life album I didn't say I was going to make it. During a Share My World album I didn't think I was going to make it but I stopped thinking about it after a while and I just started I just kept self-med medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic medic to to to the to to to the to to to to to the to the to to to the the to the to the to to thi. to to to thi. I thi. I thi. I was thi. I was thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. I w w w. I w. I w. I to the the to the the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie. tie. tie. tie. I. I. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I tie. I'm tie. I'm tie. I'm tie. I'm tie where I spoke and said enough, enough, and that was a decision that was made. And so I had to choose life. I chose life, and I think I chose life, you know, over my, for my fans as well, because I said if I check out, I'm going to take a bunch of people with me because the fans are so die hard. So I chose my life and I chose my fans. Everyone has a different moment when they find that joy, when the trajectory of their lives changes from pain, trauma, and suffering.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And it doesn't switch overnight, but there's just a turn. And I'd love to know what that turn was for you and what that moment was that changed Mary J. Blige's life and just took you to a world of healing and starting to live a completely different life. Well, from 1994 to 2016, I've been going through hell. It's been all over the news, everything's, you know, divorce, public, everything. 2016 came, I got out of the divorce, and that's when I was like, enough. I've done something great. I'm beautiful. I'm strong. I'm going to take my flowers now. I'm going to speak to myself in the morning
Starting point is 00:37:21 about, you know, positivity and, you know, loving myself and, and finally finding myself, not, not things, because sometimes we, you know, when we're younger, we look at things as success, but things are not success. Success is when you can enjoy the things, you know, and now I could finally enjoy the things and enjoy my life and not feel like I'm in prison and in hell and and take responsibility for what I did to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th I th I did th th th th th th th thi thi thi the their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thin and finally finally finally finally finally finally thi and finally finally finally finally finally the things and enjoy my life and not feel like I'm in prison and in hell and take responsibility for what I did to put myself there. You know? Yeah, so that's the biggest thing, just taking responsibility for you and then all that stuff will come out on the outside of you. You gave so much to your fans, but there's no doubt that you also gave so much to hip to hip hop as an industry, just as a concept.
Starting point is 00:38:07 You know, now you hear hip hop everywhere. There was a time when hip hop had one of the worst stigmas attached to it. And I know a lot of record executives back in the day didn't want hip hopocassied. their to have it, not once, not twice, not three times, but on every single song on that album. What was it about hip-hop that Mary J. Blige loved so much that made you go, you know what, I want to give hip-hop a platform in my album, in my world? Well, because growing up in the inner cities and in the projects, hip-hop gave us an identity, it spoke our pain, you know, every rapper, you know, it gave us something to dance to, it gave us something to feel swaggy to, to have attitude, to have, to just, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:53 wear all our chains and all of our jewelry and be proud of who we were growing up in the inner cities and you know, and that's, you know, hip hop won me my first Grammy. You're all I need was my first Grammy ever. And I was proud of that. And I'm proud to be the Queen of Hip Hop soul because hip hop is giving me from from the day, from the, from the first time I heard the funky four plus one more and the sugar hill gang like I was a little girl. You know, it gave me something, it gave us attitude, it gave us dimension, it just gave us, you know, the shit that we have. It feels like you're on a different journey and it feels like the moniker of Queen is going to just move from one industry to another.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I mean, you are the queen of hip-hop soul, you are the queen of R&B, and now, every time we see you on screen, it feels like it's only a matter of time before. We also go, no, Mary J. J. Blyes is also the Queen of Hollywood, because, I mean, two Oscar nominations is no joke in anybody's career. And now, the movie Respect is going to be coming out. You, once again, I mean, every time you're on screen, there is something that you give to the audience the audience the audience the audience the audience, is something that you give to the audience that goes beyond just the acting. And I would love to know from your side, where do you think that love of acting came from
Starting point is 00:40:10 and what do you think it is about acting that you so seamlessly, and maybe it's not seamless, but it seems so seamlessly slide into it. It just seems like it is you. Well when I was a little girl, I was put in a school play, a Christmas play by my music teacher, and I did really well. And that was the word in school, wow, Mary did really well, but that was something I had to leave because living, you know, where we lived, you know, you couldn't just be happy about anything.
Starting point is 00:40:37 So I streamed that there. And then when I got in the music business, it came back again. The Jamie Fox show was offered to me and I played OLA May and I think it was 1996 or something like that and then strong medicine came and everybody saw that I could act. And I was like, oh, I guess I can. So I'm gonna keep trying. So I just kept pushing for things that would challenge me, although I was still saying, that's what I did. I wanted to do that. I always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always always I always always always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I always, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I, I was, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to I did. I wanted to do that. I always wanted to act, you know, as a little girl. And so when it came to me as a woman, I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:09 let me go for this. And I went for it. And when I got the two Oscar nomination, it scared the hell out of me because I was just going to do a movie and put all my pain on the table. And I didn't know it was going to come back into Oscar nomination. So people believe in me now, now I gotta work harder, you know, at my, at the craft. So it's just amazing. Yeah, well, I'll tell you this as a, as a fan,
Starting point is 00:41:34 as just one of the millions and millions of fans. I just want to say, thank you for being a soundtrack to our lives. Thank you for finding your joy on the other end of that story because all too often some of our favorite artists never get to reap the rewards of all the things that they've helped create. So we applaud you, we salute you. Congratulations on when you win the Oscar. It's inevitable. It's just going to happen. So I'll congratulate you now because I don't know when I'll see you again. Thank you so much for taking the time. Thanks for having me. Take care. Don't forget Mary J. Blige's My Life will be available June 25th on Amazon Prime video. All right we're gonna take a quick break but we'll be right back after this. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a
Starting point is 00:42:21 magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, you may have heard, or you may not have heard, that the Daily Show is going to be taking a break over the summer. In the meantime, there'll still be things happening on the Daily Show feeds online,
Starting point is 00:43:00 you know, new videos, new posts, everything on Facebook and YouTube and Snapchat and TikTok. We're going to be doing all of that stuff and you can follow us on all our social platforms to see what's happening. But as for me, on the TV show side of things, we're going to be taking a little break. Why? Well, because it's time to get outside. This has been a crazy time that we've spent together. I mean, when it started, it was going to be, what, 21 days? Remember that?
Starting point is 00:43:28 21 days. Just to wipe our packages, learn how to wash our hands, and we're going to be back outside. And then, within a few months, we were here, stuck together in world. I mean I remember how shocked I was that New York became the epicenter of the virus. I don't even know what an epicenter really was, but it sounded provocative. And every single month we carried on, never knowing when the thing was going to end, because really we were never warned when the thing was going to begin. And during that time, we found new ways to do thin. to do thrown, thin. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their, their, thi. their, their, their, their, their, to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to their, their toe.ea.eauuu-sn-sn-sn-sn-sanceanor, toeanor, toecea, toecea, toe, toe, toe, to do things. We found new ways to make a show. We found new ways to communicate with an audience. And we found new ways to live as human beings.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And so now, as the future comes, I wanted to take a moment, just a beat, to think about what that new will be. I don't know if the world will go back to normal tomorrow, but I know what that will be to be to be to be to be thiorrow, but I know I'm striving to a certain form of normalcy, but I don't know what that'll be. And I do know it will be shaped by what I've experienced during this time. And what I've experienced with you,
Starting point is 00:44:33 every single one of you, every person who's watched the show, every person who's commented, everyone I've bumped intoing to somebody out there, knowing I was maybe making somebody laugh, knowing I was making someone so angry that they wanted to kill me, even those moments, kept me sane. And so thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:57 I'm going to take a bit of time to figure out what the new show is going to be. This conversation that we've been having over the past 15 months has made me realize that people are too angry and people are too happy being angry, which I know is a paradox but it's true. We don't have conversations anymore. We distill every idea into black and white. There's no nuance. We don't leave room for conversation and I don't want to be a part of what I would hope to be a part of as a human being is somebody who holds my belief, somebody who fights with people who don't agree with that, but still acknowledges that they're a human being.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And so I don't know what I'll learn. I don't know what I'll not. You might see me in a few weeks doing something. You might not. But I definitely will be coming back and hopefully I will see you when I return. I hope you take a chance to also breathe and think about not going back to the way things were but going forward to the way you would like things to be. So I'll see you back on TV sooner than later. Until then, enjoy wearing your white clothes.
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Starting point is 00:46:23 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.

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