The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Jordan Klepper on Trump's Bible Grift and the GOP Reaction to the Baltimore Bridge Collapse | Jim Sciutto

Episode Date: March 27, 2024

Jordan Klepper tackles Trump’s new branded Bibles and how right-wing media is rushing to blame the Baltimore bridge collapse on Democratic policy. Plus, Josh Johnson weighs in on Florida’s social media ban for children under 14, and what this means for the rising generation of schoolyard bullies. The Supreme Court’s latest abortion pill ruling exposes the Republican’s struggle to secure female voters while taking their rights away. Jordan Klepper dives into the GOP’s woman problem, and how they plan to win them back. Also, CNN anchor, chief national security analyst, and bestselling author, Jim Sciutto, joins Jordan Klepper to discuss his new book “The Return of Great Powers.” They discuss the importance of communication with Russia and China, the crisis of education on supporting NATO, and how we can learn from history to avoid a nuclear world war.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official survivor podcast on fire. And this season we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner-up, Charlie, Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here, and I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire the official Survivor podcast starting September 18th wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central. It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with'm Jordan Cluffer. We got so much to talk about tonight.

Florida tells teens to touch grass, the Supreme Court finds out what women want, and Donald Trump just read a book. So, let's get into tonight's headlines, shall we? Let's begin with the ongoing legal woes of America's defendant in chief Donald Trump. A Trump has just over a week to come up with a $175 million bond in his real estate fraud case. And if he can't get it from selling shares in his social media company, or borrowing from his billionaire friends, or teeming up with Giuliani for a sexy car wash, then...

Then this latest very classy business venture just might do the trick. I'm proud to be partnering with my very good friend, Lee Greenwood, who doesn't love his song, God bless the USA in connection with promoting the God Bless the USA Bible. This Bible is the King James version and also includes our founding father documents. Yes, the Constitution. Also, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence,

and the Pledge of Allegiance are all part of this. All Americans need a Bible in their home and I have many. It's my favorite book. Many? Many? How does that thing not burst into flames immediately? Huh? Yeah, Trump is mashing together the Bible and the Constitution like it's a pizza hot Taco Bell. And I know people will say that you're not supposed to mix the Bible and the Constitution. But what you have to understand is tru-It's a truc, tru-a, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th-like, th-like, the th-a, the the the the the the the the thi, the thi, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their're not supposed to mix the Bible and the Constitution. But what you have to understand is Trump has never read either of them. If we step back and look at this, Trump getting into business with God can only mean one thing. God is going to end up bankrupt and serving a three-month prison sentence for lying under oath. I mean, what's amazing about this is that Trump just made $5 billion dollars. up bankrupt and serving a three-month prison sentence for lying under oath.

I mean what's amazing about this is that Trump just made $5 billion on his new stock. Buddy, you're not supposed to be doing this embarrassing grifter shit when you're that rich. Just start a private space company like a normal billionaire sociopath. You don't see Elon Musk selling his farts in jars to perverts, do you? No, no. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I, maybe, maybe. I, like. I. I. I. I. I. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. to to to to to thi, five, five to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th just just just just just just just just just just just just just just $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $5. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiii. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5. th selling his farts in jars to perverts, do you? No, no, maybe, maybe. I haven't looked into it. Probably you do. But you know, I bet I bet if I, I bet if I, I bet, yes, he probably, let's move on, shall we? Let's move on to the big news of the day. As we've all heard by now, this morning a cargo ship leaving Baltimore crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge, collapsing the entire bridge into the water. Now, early indications suggest the crash was caused by a power failure on the ship.

But that's not going to stop America's professional fear mongers from blaming it on whatever's most convenient to them. The White House says there are no indications of foul play here. Of course, we're all worried about a potential terrorist attack given the wide open border. You know, I'm no expert on what's going on on the seas, but all I would say is that if you talk to employers in America, they'll tell you that filling slots with employees who aren't drug-adled is a very huge problem. What are we doing to make sure that we have the best infrastructure in the world so that when a ship passes by and clips the bridge that it doesn't entirely collapse. Alex Jones tweeting looks deliberate

to me. A cyber attack is probable. World War III has already started. World War III has already started. But I have dune tickets this weekend. What? Can I at at least see it before I enlist in the war? Who are we fighting exactly? Is it boats? Are we fighting the boats? You know what? Doesn't matter? I'll just start shooting, we'll figure it out later. You know, media figures, you are allowed to just say, we're waiting for more information, right? We don't need to fill every moment of uncertainty with bullshit. It might be too early to speculate, but can we prove that this wasn't P-Diddy's getaway-sex barge? Stay tuned, and find out. Look, of course America's infrastructure is in need

of updating. Of course, but I don't think this is the proof. Falling down is kind of what you expect a bridge to do when a giant cargo ship slams into it. If your grandma gets body slammed by the rock, you're not going to blame her broken bones on a calcium deficiency. You're going to blame it on her not bringing her A-game to the rock. You've got to step it up, Nana. Gotta step it up. Come on.

Yes. Finally, finally, finally, in some social media news, if you're a preteen in Florida watching clips of this show on Tick-Tock, you're about to be in a world of trouble. We turn now to a social media showdown in Florida. Governor Rhonda Santis signing a bill banning children under 14 from having their own social media accounts. If this law holds, Florida will have one of the most restrictive social media bans in the country. The new measure bars social media accounts for children under the age of 14 and requires

parental consent for 15 and 16 year olds. It also mandates that social media platforms search for and remove the profiles of kids who don't meet the age requirement. This makes me so mad. This asshole Rhonda Santis might have done something I agree with. I mean what... I mean what is the say about me? I don't know what this says about me. I do think maybe

this law isn't a bad idea. I think we can all agree that social media is a nightmare for kids. It increases their risk of depression. It exposes them to predators. It harms concentration. It gives you a wildly unrealistic expectation of how easy it is to prepare meals. Just throw in the potatoes, some scallions, some boiling water, a couple of fasted tasks. Voila, a beautiful dinner, and your entire family loves you, you're a great father. No, it's not that easy.

It turns out there's a lot of prep work, the videos don't show you that. They gotta blanch the onions, then you gotta julienne the carrots, now it's 10 p.m. Your kids are starving. They hate you. I don't know you're on my TV, God damn it. Hypothetically. The point is, if Florida teenagers are kicked off of their phones, maybe they can focus on all the quintessential experiences of being a teen in Florida. Things like wrestling a gator at prom, or going to the library and reading the four books that are still legal to read, or trying the library and reading the four books that are still legal to read, or trying to avoid Matt Gates on your walk home from school, you know? Classic

Florida teen shit. Honestly, I wish Ron DeSantis had run on this when he was a presidential candidate. This, this is a much better message than his platform of wearing high heels and smiling like a demon in a horror movie. There's always 2028, Ron. For more reaction on this social media band, we go to Josh Johnson in Tallahassee. Josh! I'll tell you, Josh. Josh, I'll be honest.

I don't hate this bill. I think getting kids off social media will benefit them in all sorts of ways. Cognitive development, better time management, personal skills, it's going to be great for them. Yeah, Jordan, I couldn't agree more. And that's the problem. Okay? If you kick kids off of social while the rest of us stay on it, you're giving them a competitive advantage. How am I going to compete against a well-rounded child after social be is already broken me? I have short-term memory loss, bad eyesight, no attention span crippling anxiety, short-term memory loss.

And according to Tick-Tock, all those symptoms mean I might be pregnant. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Josh, come on. I'm pretty sure you can compete with a 14-year-old. I can't. I've been staring down at a phone for 20 years.

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and a kid in a wheelchair yelled at me, damn, I thought my legs are f-fied up. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okayduck. Okay. Okay. Fair, but you are an adult. You can handle a couple of accurate comments, but... But there have been conclusive studies that social media lowers kids' self-esteem. What about my self-esteem? A child said I look like a pedophile merge with one of his victims. And his friend said that they love my performance of fast car at the Grammys. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess I can see it. You want to know what else they said because they had more of the chamber. I don't know what they said. Maybe nice suit, did it come with a car seat? Or you're like if Little Wayne never wrapped or... I didn't know adults came in fun sides, something like that. Okay, okay. Okay, Jordan, damn. You too... Sorry. It's just easy, okay. So to be clear, you're saying you oppose this bill. Yes, in fact, it should be mandatory for these kids to be on social media.

Every child's face should be glued to a screen to protect me, I mean us, when we walk home in jorts. You can't argue with that. Josh Johnson, everybody. When we return, we'll find out how Republicans can get voters back. Don't go away. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday.

We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Back to there, Joe. In the last few years, anti-abortion activists have had a string of successes at the Supreme Court. But today, it appears that their winning streak might be in jeopardy. The Supreme Court today appeared likely to preserve access to Mephra Pristone, the medication

used in nearly two-thirds of abortions last year. During oral arguments this morning, court watchers say a consensus seemed to develop among the justices that the abortion opponents who filed suit lacked the standing to sue. Now, if that stands, it would allow patients to receive the drug by mail order without a doctor's visit. That's right. Looks like women in red states can still get an abortion as long as they can sneak in a pill through the mail. Success.

Maybe women have too many rights now. I don't know. Even if the abortion pill survives this time, it's clear that women's reproductive health will be under threat for a long time, which presents a big problem for Republicans who are trying to figure out how to win over women voters while taking their rights away. The Republicans do have a woman problem. What do they need to do to message to those folks better? A brand new strategy memo circulating at the House GOP's policy retreat, recommending that members express empathy for women. Express empathy.

Okay, novel idea. Let's keep brainstorming. Republicans need to learn how to talk about abortion in a way that is going to appeal to suburban voters, single mothers, married mothers, women across the political spectrum. Yes, be as appealing as that guy, okay. Good notes, good notes. These are very good doubts.

Yes. Achievable, I think, yes. Okay. Any other breath-takenly obvious suggestions? What do you think the Republicans need to do with their abortion messaging? Well, I think it's their overall message in general. You got to talk directly to the people. You got to give and take on some issues. It looks like the majority of Americans don't like the rape and incest thing.

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abortion ban. He thought he had politics all figured out. Our bold numbers of women are just tanking. Just doesn't make any sense. They're probably just mad they suck at sports. Kobe. Until one day. I'm gonna go jack off in the breastfeeding room. A freak jacking off accident transformed him. It's killing me. Into the one thing his political party couldn't understand. Whoa, I'm a woman.

I'm going to barf. This November. It's not the flu. You're pregnant. I can't be pregnant. It's thirsty Thursday. Isn't there some kind of a medical procedure I could get? You mean an abortion? No, God no. I mean, the th flu. You're pregnant. I can't be pregnant. It's thirsty Thursday. Isn't there some kind of a medical procedure I could get? You mean an abortion? No, God no. No, I mean like a medical procedure. Not in this state. Thanks to that law

Tim Greco just passed. She made that sign so specific. The inspirational story of one Republican. Boss, it's me, Tim Greco. I got turned into a pregnant woman from a magical breast pump on my penis. I believe you to continue. I know what women voters want. Legalized abortion. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

That's a good one! Hey, does this mean since you're a lady now, that I could have a sex with you? No. Maybe. And what it's probably going to take to make Republicans realize what women voters actually want. Women voters want access to abortion, you know, like before. Or maybe women voters want trans people ban from working in sandwich shops. Write that down. Hey, now that you're a woman, can we maybe...

Ew? No. Maybe. What women voters want? Coming to Theaters this fall. We come back to the Shudo. We'll be joining me on the show. Go away. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday.

We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with My guest tonight is a CNN anchor, Chief National Security Analyst and best-selling author whose latest book is called The Return of Great Powers, Russia, China, and the Next, the next world war.

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And after that,that doesn't have, we don't get that close. Let's have hotlines, let's negotiate some nuclear treaties, etc. And the thing is, we have to get back to that point, because right now we're going this way, we're not going this way. I mean, it's interesting, you do talk a lot about that. You have to keep the lines that he has with Vladimir Putin. He brags about what he did with Kim Jong-un. And I think, on one hand, you can see through what that means and what he wants from that. On the other hand, he's talking about legitimate connections. You actually even talk about some of the successes

Trump had with his relationship with Kim John toon. And this madman theory, in some sense of being so braggadocio, that tactically, that sometimes can be beneficial in ways that other tactics can't. True, listen, opening channels is not a bad thing, right? You know, sitting down with Kim Jong-un is not a bad thing, or with Putin or she. We have to be talking, that's better than not talking, because when you don't talk, I mean, that's true. When you don't talk to small things. Jim, we gotta stay, but you're here to talk about the book, Jim. Mar-Marie for a few years. Talk about the Cold War, the next war, all right?

You gotta talk. Talking's not bad, but you also have to have realistic expectations. So Trump had three face-to-face meeting with Kim Jong-un, went nowhere, right? is that for Russia and China, these are strategic decisions to undermine the U.S. and the system as it stands today, again, because they look at it as aligned against them, kind of skewed against them. So the strongest personality in the world is not going to change long-term strategic interests, right? And if Trump imagines, as he does, and by the way, don't trust me trust, trust, trust, trust, tru, and tru, and tru, tru, and tru, tru, th. th. th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, their, thr-a, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. too, too, too. too. too. too. too. too. too. their, their, their, their, their, their, their by the way, don't trust me, I talked to folks who advised him at the most senior levels in his last administration, if Trump believes by his personality alone, he's going to fundamentally change that dynamic, it just doesn't line up with reality, right? Doesn't mean talking is a bad idea, but you have to know who you're dealing with here, and you have to know what they're seeking to do, and you have to be clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear to say to say to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say, to say to say to say to say, to say, to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say to say their to say their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thii, thii, thii., thi. thii. thi. to thii. their their their their, their their going to let that happen. You talk to a lot of Trump insiders here. I think something that stood out in reading this was,

we had heard stories about Trump's desire to pull out of NATO. And I think you kind of walk through how close that was to becoming a reality. And what I find compelling, like, that's a big issue right now. I will say when I go out and I talk to people at MAGA events, you know, there's an isolationist attitude, to say the least. But I do think a lot of people don't, when you bring up something like NATO, the idea of pulling out of NATO is a no-brainer. We want to be to ourselves, that's a, it doesn't serve us any, and it doesn't do us any good. And I will also say as a younger generation, as somebody who's 24 as you pointed out. Like, the conversation my school about the Cold War was short. Our understanding of NATO, we don't have, we are so disconnected from the realities of what

that was created for, that I think the discussions we're having right now about the importance of NATO are falling on deaf ears on one party and one candidate, but also on deaf ears on, I think an electorate that isn't educated in history in a way to understand what NATO is supposed to do.. to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do the to do their their to do their their their their to do their to do their to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their their their their.. their their their. their their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, their, to, their, to, to, their, their, to, their, to bea, toea, toea.uiiii.u.u.u. toe.u. toe. toe. toe. toe. to, I think, an electorate that isn't educated in history in a way to understand what NATO is supposed to do. Is this also a crisis of education? 100%? I mean, you know as well as me that the baseball bat doesn't work, right? When you're trying to convince people of the importance of these things or how it's served our interests over time. You have just remind people and make thrown, and make their, and their, and thi, and thi, and thi, thu. And, thu. And, thu. And, thi, thi, the thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, to to to tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thu, thu, thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thr, thr, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tooan, toa, toa, toa, toa, to to to to to to th gain from it. I mean, I think when you look at a place like Ukraine, so Ukraine is a country of 40 minutes. It's the largest country in Europe, but I've spent a lot of time there. They're lovely people, right? They don't want much more than what we have, which is to be able to choose your own leaders, tra to try and travel where you to go, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, and not, they...... And, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. their is, their is, their is, their is, their is a their is, their is, their, their, their is. their is. their is, their is, it is a their, it is, it is a their. It is, it. It is, it. It is a. It is a. It is a.. It. It's, it. It's, it's is. It's is. It's is. It's is a. It's is a. It's is a. It's is a their. their. theiriiiia. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. might be speaking about how Russia, you know, what life is like in Russia today.

That's the way it is. They don't want that. They don't want to live under that. So you have, you know, you have a sympathetic case as to why to help these people or why to help the Taiwanese with us in Afghanistan, post-911. So you have that. But also a peaceful Europe that is free from Russian domination is in our interest. It's a vibrant Europe. It's an economically healthy Europe. We sell a lot of stuff there. We could go do business there. We could send our kids to semesters abroad there.

That kind of thing, things we buy or cheaper here because it's peaceful there. And you can say the same thing about Asia. You know, half the stuff in our homes comes through shipping lanes in Asia, which the U.S. helps keep open. So you have both a sympathetic case to make for this kind of thing and a values case, but you also have a self-interested case because we benefited that, the thape from from from from from from from from from from from from from from, the not just since the last Cold War, but even going back to like 80 years ago, post-World War II, that NATO and other treaties help keep the peace pretty much.

It's not perfect, but they did prevent so far, right, you know, the next world war. That's important, we benefit from that. You talk about this not just being a donor. There is a blueprint for some optimism there. Where do you see that? So a couple things. One, like we don't want to look at them as 10 feet tall, Russia or China. They make mistakes, right? I mean, prior to the Ukraine invasion, you probably heard this too,

a lot of folks were like, a lot of folks. A thault's way. to be thrown, they-a. works. People use that metaphor is like, we don't, we don't really have a good understanding of that. My eight-year-old daughter beats me a chest break. So, so I'm with you on that. Yes. Stay focus, Jim. The, the, so, you know, they make mistakes too. And he got himself in a horrible war, which, you know, he's effectively losing, right? And China makes mistakes as well, right. And China makes mistakes as well, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, and, and, and, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and, and to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that China is going to be growing forever. They've got weaknesses as well. So you want to start with, we have advantages.

The US economy is growing. You know, we have an open society. People buy and want to buy American stuff, right? They don't want to buy Russian cell phones, right? You know, we, we, we, we, um, try one. They might blow up. They might blow up. So we have advantages in that sense. We have a lot of friends and allies. One thing when you look at Russia and China, they don't have ally. I mean, Russia's biggest allies right now are China, North Korea and Iran. I mean, we have all of Europe in effect on our side with shared values. So we have advantages going in and then in terms of how to find a path so that we, to to be, to be, to be, to be, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I I's, I'm, I's, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, I I I, their, their, thr, thr. And, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, thr. And, throwne go to war, I mean, people ask me this, they're like, well, sounds like you're making the case to go to war against Russia

and China. And I always say them, I said this before we came on, I've got a 13-year-old boy. I've got a 13-year-old and a 15-year-old boy. They're like a minute. aircraft carrier and the Taiwan straight if the US and China were to go to war. I don't want that I don't want that either. But we can learn from history here, right? One thing is communication lines matter. There's a reason why Kennedy and Khrushchev were like, we got really close. I got to have a phone on my desk, you got have a phone on your desk so this haven't had them, they've come and gone when relationships have gone up and down. So communication matters. Treaties matter. We negotiated those nuclear arms treaties again to keep the U.S. and Russia from going

to war and kind of like just beating each other to death in a nuclear arms race. A lot of those treaties. Well, actually, they kind of help, right? And we have no treaties with China when it comes to nuclear weapons. There are no treaties regarding cyber weapons. There are no treaties regarding weapons in space. I mean, Russia just, you know, probably saw our story a few weeks ago today. Talked about a nuke lose all the technology we depend on every day. GPS and communications and internet and the financial market stops.

So, you know, this stuff affects us at home. We need treaties for that stuff. We were heading to the good news and you just mentioned, you mentioned a nuclear weapon in space. This is why my kids love talking to their dad's school. This is what I bring home. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, te, te, te, te.e.e.e.g. te.g. the, their, the, their, the, their, the, the, to their dad's going, this is what I bring home. But, but the final thing is that you can, with those treaties, they can help, they can help this going down a bad path. And the final thing is that communicating what you want stand, won't stand for matters, right? I mean, if you look, I speak a lot to the Estonian Prime Minister here. Aston, I is, I is, I is, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, thian, like, like, thian, thian, like is like, like, like, like, like, thian, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thian, thi, like, like, like, like, like, with th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with, with a the the the the the the they. their, with a their, with a their, their, with a their, with their, with their, with their, with their, with their, with their, with their, with their, of this, right next to Russia, and she constantly quoted Churchill about Hitler, which is, which is, and a peaser is the one who feeds the crocodile expecting that he'll be its last meal. The thing is, the parallels between a Hitler and a Putin is that if you give a little ground he tends to take more, you know, he took a piece of Georgia in 208, then he took Ukraine, took, took, took, took, took, took, took, took, took, to to to to to to to to the Ukraine, to the Ukraine, took, took, took, took, took, took, took, their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, they., tooomeaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseaseeaseasea, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is a their, Ukraine in 2014, then invaded again. The clear communication, and we learned this from Hitler, you know, if you are soft and

don't tell them what's too far for you, they might then take advantage and move forward. So the U.S., I think and its allies can be confident and say we're not going to allow you to invade countries because borders matter to us and they're our friends and we're going to stand on the way and the costs are going to be high for you. That doesn't necessarily mean we're going to take you to war by any means, but that we defend our friends and we're going to be strong. And those messages matter over time. And if you look back, sometimes clear messaging can prevent miscalculation and can prevent the guy on the other side thinking check out CNN Newsroom on Max. Jim Shudowdow. Thanks so much.

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