The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Kanye West Gets Booted From Twitter | Michael Fanone

Episode Date: October 12, 2022

Trevor covers racism from high-profile Americans, Desi Lydic reports on a pro-Russia cyberattack on U.S. airport websites, and former D.C. cop Michael Fanone discusses "Hold the Line."See omnystudio.c...om/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:20 This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out in person. Good to see you. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much for meeting it. Take it seat, everybody. We have got a great show for you tonight. Mark Zuckerberg has just invented legs. Vladimir Putin is getting desperate and in New Zealand, cows are going to become taxpayers.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So let's do this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this people this into today's headlines. All right, before we get into the big stories, let's catch up on a few other things going on in the world. Starting with some big tech news. Mark Zuckerberg has just revealed that from now on, people will have legs in the metaverse. Yeah, and I for one in the metaverse. Yeah, and I for one am truly excited for what this means,
Starting point is 00:02:29 because first you get legs, then you will get feet. Pretty soon, you'll be able to walk out of the metavers and go literally anywhere else. In climate news, New Zealand has just announced a plan to fight methane emissions by taxing cows for their burps. And this is how much billionaires are winning in the world. Even cows are getting taxed before them. And by the way, even if you support this general idea to try and slow climate change, you have to admit if you were a cow, you'd be pretty pissed about this. Oh, oh, hold on, hold on. You steal my milk, make me spend my whole life on death row, and now you, you two nibbled
Starting point is 00:03:14 bitches are going to text me for burping? Are you all driving electric cars? No! Are you all using solar panels now? No! You still fly private jets, but I can text. Okay, well how about this? You bitches? Take that, you bitches! Those New Zealand cows are angry. All right, in Sports News, after it came out that NBA star Dramen Green of the Golden State Warriors punched his teammate in the face during practice, Green has announced that he will be taking some time off.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Which is a great reminder for everyone, do not punch your co-workers unless you want some extra vacation time. All right, let's move on to some of the biggest stories of the day, which for some reason, all involve racism. Yeah, I don't know if you guys have ever heard of racism, but it's a pretty hot thing these days, and by these days I mean the last like a thousand years. Now for some reason, for some reason, it seemed like everyone was extra racist
Starting point is 00:04:16 this weekend. I don't know, maybe because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was, because it was like, th of of of of of of of of of of of thi was like, thi, thi, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiii. thii. thi. their racism. Whatever it was, it almost seemed like people were competing to see who could be the most racist. So, let's dive in to all the competition for a segment we call the Amazing Racism. Our first story involving racism hails from the great state of Alabama. I know I'm shocked too. What makes this racism special is that it's from a senator, one of the 100 best people in America, and he said it out loud on TV. Senator Tommy Tubberville at Alabama is facing a significant backlash from major civil rights groups for comments he made at a Trump rally
Starting point is 00:05:05 over the weekend. Senator Tumberville called out Democrats as being pro-crime. He also suggested that people who want reparations for ancestral slavery aren't to blame for the crime. The Democratic Party, they have a majority. They could stop this crime today. They want crime. They want crime because they want to take over what you got. They want to control what you have. They want reparation because
Starting point is 00:05:29 they think the people that do the crime are owed that. Bullshit. They are not owed that. Woo! Yeah, you tell them Tommy. That thing you just made up right now about reparations is bullshit. We can't have that fake thing happening woo! I gotta say people I've heard racist say all kinds of things I've heard them say that black people are criminals and I've heard them say that reparations are reverse racism but it takes a true racism innovator to combine both ideas at the same time. Yeah this is like the stuffed crust pizza of racism because I knew you could have crust, and I knew that you could have cheese, but I didn't know that you could put the cheese
Starting point is 00:06:05 inside the crust that's holding the rest of the cheese, because now the crust is holding the cheese at the same time that it's genius! Now, now, if you're confused, if you're confused, if you're confused by what his point is that Democrats want black people to do crime because that's basically reparations which the Democrats believe they deserve. And there are just two things I can think of. Of the top of my head. One, how does this argument explain black people who steal things from other black people?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Because then who's reparating who? And secondly, how is this man going to stand on stage and imply that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi steal things from other black people? Because then who's reparating who? And secondly, how is this man going to stand on stage and imply that all criminals are black? Huh? That is disgusting. Has the senator never watched Netflix? I'm not going to stand here and let Tommy Chavoville erase all these white people's contributions! This is the real racism, my friends. Something to make it seem like white people can't do crime. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:07:11 White people do crime just like anybody these guys are going to make it seem like white. All my white friends in here, you can do the crime. You don't listen to these people say you can't, you can't do the crime. You do the crime Look you know what while this is upsetting you have to it's not exactly Surprising I mean he's an Alabama conservative named Tommy Tubbleville What would be surprising is if he got up on stage and he was like I'd like to open today with my favorite passage from James Baldwin y'all? So that's our first story and I I hope you warmed up, because this next one is a little more unexpected and it takes place in liberal LA.
Starting point is 00:07:53 In Los Angeles, the big political issue right now is a blockbuster tape recording that could force three city councillors to resign. Nuri Martinez, a rising star in LA politics, potentially faces a career in ruins. The first Latina chosen to lead the Los Angeles City Council, caught on tape, making racist and offensive comments during a redistricting meeting with three Latino Democrats. At one point, Martinez talks about the black child of Mike Bonnet, a white council member, in Spanish calling the boy a little monkey. There's a white guy with this little black kid who's misbehaved.
Starting point is 00:08:31 The kid is bouncing off the F and walls on the floor. He's practically tipping it over. There's nothing you can do to control him. Taise Changito. He took him like a little white kid, which I was like, this can need a beat down. Like, let me take him around the corner and then I'll bring him back. Oh boy, yeah. A Latina Democrat called the black son of a white colleague, a little monkey, was bouncing all around the walls.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm sorry, bouncing all around the effing walls. Yeah, thank you for censoring yourself. I appreciate it. That was weird. I'm not, I, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm not thiiiii, I'm not thi, I'm not thiiole, I'm not thi, I'm not thiol- thiol- thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. th Yeah, thank you for censoring yourself. I appreciate it. That was weird. I mean, I'm not sure she censored herself in the right place. That was weird of her. To be like, bouncing off the effing walls like a little monkey.
Starting point is 00:09:13 You know, I think you would have to be to see a kid misbehaving. And just say, fuck, I thii. I guess I'm just effing crazy that way, you know? Also, do you know how racist you have to be to see a kid misbehaving, and your first instinct is to use a racial slur against him? It's a little kid. All right? We all see kids of every race throw a tantrum or misbehave. And I'm not trying to brag, but personally, I hate all kids equally. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the color of their skin that makes them annoying.
Starting point is 00:09:46 It's the content of their shitty character. What's especially wild about the story as well is that in the same conversation, she basically implies that because the kid is black, not white, he should be beaten so that he behaves. And I'm sorry people. If you believe that black kids deserve to be beaten, you have no place being on the LA City Council. You clearly belong in the LAPD. But, before we run out of time, there is one story that has the whole world talking.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I'm referring of course to Kanye West, rapper, entrepreneur, and the guy who proved that not even black people can make the mega hat cool. Kanya has been drifting more and more to the right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right right thiii. to to to to to to the white white white white white white white, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their. their. their. their. their. their. their their. their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. thi. thi. th not even black people can make the mega hat cool. Kanye has been drifting more and more to the right lately, from wearing a white lives matter shirt to sitting down for an interview with Tucker Carlson, but over the weekend, Kanye drifted right off the deep end. Yeah, formerly known as Kanye West is now blocked from using Instagram and two-sieg. On Friday, Instagram was the first site to lock his account. After after Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, Kanye, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiii..e, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e, thi.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. t.e. On Friday, Instagram was the first site to lock his account. After Kanye posted text messages between himself and the rapper Sean Diddy Combs. In those messages, he accused Ditty of being controlled by Jewish people.
Starting point is 00:10:54 After Diddy criticized a shirt, Kanye was photographed wearing that read, White Lives Matter. Then on Sunday, Kanye posted a series of tweets, once again, targeting Jewish people, using the phrase, Death Con 3. The rap star lashing out, tweeting, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I am going Deathcon 3 on Jewish people. The funny thing is, I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Also, you guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone whoever opposes your agenda. Oh, no, Kanye, you're gonna do it again, you're gonna do it again. I don't even know where to begin with this shit. I mean, promoting anti-Semitism to your 50 million followers. Not even joking about it, threatening to go death con three on Jewish people, which by the way, I know thii. I know thee, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm theat, I'm theat, I'm theat, I'm theat, I'm theat, thi, th- th-I th-I th-I th-n, thean, the-n, tho-------n, you're to to to to to th-con, you, you, you, you, th-n, to the, the, to to to to to to to to to to to to to the, the, the. the. thean, thean, thi. Oh, thi. No, thi. No, than, than, than, than, than, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, thoan, tho-coe, tho-co-co-co-co-co-n, than, th way, I know this is not the point, but that's not how you say it. I know it's not the main issue here, I know that. But it's DEFCon 3. All right? Not DEFCon 3.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Right? Defcon, sounds like a trade show where they unveil all the latest coffins or something. Our newest model comes with Bluetooth. Now you can check on to make sure Nana's still there. Just use the app. Defcon. Not to mention, the defcon scale goes from one to five. So, Defcon 3 is like in the middle? If you're trying to tell people how hard you're going to go, that's just a weird way
Starting point is 00:12:19 to do it. You know? I'm about to to open to open to but I'm gonna put half of it in some Tupperware for later. Uh, you've been warned. I don't want to use all my whip ass at the same time. Also, it's funny that he starts his threat with, I'm a bit sleepy tonight. What is that? What is that? Does anti-Semitism make you tired? Is that why mega people love the my pillow guy? Is that what this is? But I will say, man, I feel bad for American right wingers, you know, because they're getting Kanye now. I think if they missed college dropouts, my beautiful, dark-twisted fantasy, graduation.
Starting point is 00:12:56 You know, they missed all if they're getting this Kanye. It's like getting to date the high school. It's like, you remember they, they, they, they, they, they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're their their their they're their, they're their, their, their, th. thatheing, thatheing, thatheatheat, I'm thatheatheat, I'm th. I'm th. I'm that, I'm they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're they're, they're, they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. that. school. Yeah, it's like, you remember Chad from high school? Well, he's got uncontrollable flatulence now. Yeah, they might even tax him in New Zealand. So, those are the contenders in this week's amazing racism. You've got a black guy hating on Jews, a white guy, and a Hispanic woman hating on a white guy for how he raises his black kid. You've got like every combination of racism in there.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And you could find that depressing. You could, and I would understand why. But I myself choose to see all these things as the glass half full. You know, if everyone is being racist against everyone else, then that means that no matter what color we are, racism is at least one thing that we all have in common. And what a beautiful thought that is. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to a break, it's time to check in on all the latest social media
Starting point is 00:13:56 trends with our very own. Ronnie Chang, everybody! Ronnie Chang! Good to see you again, my friend my my my my my my my my my my my my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my friend my the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My. My th. My th. My th. My friend. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. th. th. to. to. th. to. to. to. th. to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to see you again, my friend. What is happening online? Hey, Trevor, thanks a lot. Before we begin, I just want to check. Do you have any major announcements you want to make first? Any emotional or life-changing decisions about your professional life that you might want to talk about before I get started. Actually yes, there is one thing that I've had on my mind. Shut the fuck up, alright? No more announcements. No one. Let me get through this one
Starting point is 00:14:33 segment where you're becoming a surprise-face meme again with a stupid curb your enthusiasm music. Yeah, very original idiots. Memes are the comedy of lesser minds. Let's get to the social media trends or whatever. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the the the the thi. thi. thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. thi, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, th. Yes, thi, thi, thi, thi. Yes, thi. Yes, thi. Yes, thi. Yes, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the thi. the the the the thi. the the thi. the thi. thi. lesser minds. Let's get to the social media trends or whatever. This long weekend, it's fun times on the internet as usual. Kanye West, going off the rails, again. His beard is clearly not helping. He looks like Kimball half a slice. Just sending out this tweet. As we've already examined, yes, a lot to unpack here. First of all, anytime you
Starting point is 00:15:08 are writing something in lowercase and then you put the race of a people in all caps, that's not a good place to be, okay? Because even if you're saying something nice, it's not going to read well. You could be saying like, I want to wish a happy Hanukkah to the Jewish people. It doesn't work. Okay? And what's going on with this line? Also, Jew?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Actually, Jew also? I mean, it sounds like he let the iPhone predictive text write a manifesto for him. I do like this, though. I do like the spaces in between, right? I think every racist rant needs a few blank spaces where we can project our own prejudices into. And if this wasn't chaotic enough, luckily for everyone, the world's second weirdest person, Elon Musk came in to calm everyone down. Replying with this tweet, talked to yay today and express my concerns about his recent tweet, which I think he took to heart. You know it's bad when Elon Musk thinks you're being unreasonable on Twitter. And I mean, is this how Elon is going to do content moderation when he owns Twitter?
Starting point is 00:16:24 He's just going to have a heart to heart to to to to to to heart to heart to heart to heart to heart to heart to heart to heart to to to to to heart to to to heart to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to heart to the their to to to to to tooomuu-musts to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to calm to to to to to to the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their theirsesese their their their their their Elon is going to do content moderation when he owns Twitter? He's just going to have a heart to heart with every single person who tweets something racist? Because I don't know if you check Twitter lately, because I don't think you're going to have a lot of time to go to Mars if you do that, okay? They're going to be a little busy. And what else is going on? Oh, yeah, Zuckerberg, another billionaire maniac. Yo, Mark, why are you obsessed with the Metaverse? The Metaverse sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:49 You made billions of dollars in real life. Now you're losing billions to create a fake life. So what, now there's legs in the Metavers. Oh, wow, we got legs in the Metavers now, yeah. You know what else? There's legs right here. We got legs here already, okay? The guy who created an infinite universe that could be anything and you made legs, okay? Not jet pack legs, not teleporting legs, just legs. Just legs. What else are you gonna invent in your magic world? College debt? debt. Even Kanye is looking at this going like, you're making our people look bad. And who here wants to be in a metaverse made by
Starting point is 00:17:36 Facebook? I've never been on Facebook and said, you know what, I wish this was in three dimensions. How can I physically interact with this post from a 60-year-old woman who was annoyed and no one spoke English at the drugstore? What kind of dork with nothing but time on his hands would even be excited about the metaverse? I mean, look at what people are tweeting about it. Look at this, this random idiots. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I just used VR for the first time, mind-blowing. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I mean, wow. I just used VR for the first time, mind-blowing. I can't imagine what it'll be like when it's basically real. You can't imagine what it'll be like if it's real. Why don't you take off the fucking headset? It's just to go around. It's happening right now. Reality is right here.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Who is this dumb-effing idiot? Anyway, back to you Trevor. I think, I think that tweet made some good points. Ronnie Chang, everybody. I like that idea. All right, when we come back, we're going to find out needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience.
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Starting point is 00:20:05 And in the last month, Ukraine has been kicking Russia's ass all up and down the map. They've defeated Russian soldiers across the front lines. They blew up a key supply bridge deep in Russian territory, and they even gave Putin's personal email to Bed Bath and Beyond's mailing list. Anyway, another week of the war means another week of updates. So, let's catch up on how it's all going in another edition of Vlad Gone Mad. After a series of defeats, Vladimir Putin has been so humiliated that it was just a matter of time before he lashed out. And yesterday, he did just that, was just a matter of time before he lashed
Starting point is 00:20:45 out. And yesterday, he did just that, launching missile strikes against civilian targets all across Ukraine for the first time since the beginning of the war. Now, unfortunately for him, the missile strikes only seem to have emboldened the Ukrainian people who went right back outside, after the strikes to live their lives and get coffee. And if you ask me, that, that that that that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thiiiiiiiiiiiii, their their to live their lives and get coffee. And if you ask me, that is a testament to how resilient the Ukrainian people are. And to how addicted people are to coffee. Yeah, these people were just at Starbucks like, I know missiles are coming,
Starting point is 00:21:14 but pumpkin spice season is very limited. But it turns out, and a lot of people don't know this part of the story. Vladimir Putin and his people weren't just lashing out at Ukraine. No, they decided to take a piece of the war to America. The TSA is investigating a coordinated cyber attack on the websites of more than a dozen U.S. airports, including LaGuardia. And Russian-speaking hackers are claiming responsibility. LaGuardia was the first to be impacted around three yesterday morning. And as of last night, Denver international Airport's website was still being attacked. The websites were temporarily knocked offline.
Starting point is 00:21:52 There were no immediate signs of impact to actual air travel. That's right, people. The Russians took out websites for some American airports. And please, everyone, calm down. I know we all log on to Laguardia.com to see the latest news about which terminal will be under construction for the next 17 years. But today we will all have to discover which areas under construction for ourselves. Stay calm. Just stay calm. This is a major story, people. And for more
Starting point is 00:22:24 on this, we go live to our own Desilattec who is at LaGuardia right now. Desiladic everybody. Desi. What is the situation over there right now? Well Trevor as someone who's been a huge fan of LaGuardia's website ever since I found out it existed at 1045 this morning. Let me tell you it is chaos. Trash bins are overflowing. People are sleeping half naked on the carpet. Oh no Desi, that's because of the website being down? No no this is always LaGuardia. But somehow it seems worse right now. Your TSA pre-check you don't know what it's like. Let me tell you how bad this is. All the ladies the ladies the ladies the ladies the ladies the ladies th th th th th th th th th. This is th. This is th. This is th. This is is is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tog. te. te. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha what it's like. Let me tell you how bad this is.
Starting point is 00:23:06 All the ladies' rooms were closed for cleaning, all of them. I was forced to pee in one of those breastfeeding pods. Wow, I didn't know the breastfeeding pods have toilets? No, no they don't, Trevor. And the babies were super judgy about it. So, Desi, do you think this is all going down because of the website being attacked? Well, clearly something's going on here. There are three sunglasses huts next to each other. And I just walked past a bathing suit store.
Starting point is 00:23:36 What kind of psychopath buys a bathing suit at the airport? Did you not know where you were going? Anyway, the good news is I found the cinnabond. Wait, that oh, that's okay. Well Desi did you learn anything valuable that you can report to our viewers at home? Oh, God. Yes. We're not coming to worry about it, but it's an absolute Sorry, Desi, there was there was cinabon in your mouth. What did you say? Okay. Hold on sorry. Yeah, I can't. We can't. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that's that. that. that's that. that., there was cinnamon in your mouth. What did you say? Okay, hold on, sorry. Yeah, we can't hear what you're saying, Desi.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 Thank you very happy. Michael Phonon, welcome to the Danish show. Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it. You have written a book that would have been remarkable even before January 6th happened. You know, you've lived a life in law enforcement. You have a really interesting story in and around law enforcement, but there is no denying that January 6 is a day, you know, that America will probably never forget, and a day that will be etched into your memory forever. Some people have seen the footage and those who have all said the same thing. It is harrowing, but you actually experienced that. If you wouldn't mind, take me
Starting point is 00:26:59 through not not what happened, but how you feel about people commenting on that day as if it wasn't a big deal. You know, many people say, wasn't that bad, it wasn't an insurrection. This was just, you know, it was calm, people need to relax. You were actually there. You were actually one of the people trying to stop those who were trying to come into the Capitol. What was your experience? And how different is it is it thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii? thi? thi? thi? thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that, that that that that, that that that that, that that that that that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that I remember the brutality of that day, like it was yesterday.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And hearing people, you know, especially lawmakers elected so-called leaders of this country downplay or deny the reality of that day, I mean, to say it's infuriating is an understatement. I mean, it pisses me the fuck off. Yeah. I don't know what it felt like for you. I mean, you suffered extreme injuries. How are you doing now, by the way? I mean, I'm good, like, physically, mentally.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I feel like I've had a lot of time to come to terms with what I experienced that day. But, I mean, a big part of writing this book was not just to memorialize what I did, but also what so many other officers did that day. And, you know, there's a lot of them that are out there that are suffering in silence. That didn't get the acknowledgment that I've gotten. And that have kind of been kind of th th th to to to to th th to th to to th to th to th th to to th th to th to th to th th the to the to the the to to to to to to to to to the the the to to to to to to to to to to come to come to come to come to come to come to come to the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te te te te te te te te te tee teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee to to come te to te their them that are out there that are suffering in silence. That didn't get the acknowledgment that I've gotten and that have kind of been, or at least feel that they've been forgotten. Because you were one of, I think it was, 850 officers who rushed to protect the Capitol during that moment. You were one of the many officers who were attacked by this mob who was rushing in. One of the darkest ironies in some of that footage is you being beaten by a mob where
Starting point is 00:28:51 they're holding a blue lives matter flag. And you know, I've often said one thing that perturbs me in America is how people will use the idea of either the military or law enforcement to further their narrative, but it seems like they don't actually have that same reverence for actual law enforcement or military. You know, you see veterans being homeless or you see law enforcement treated like yourself. Do those people even acknowledge what was happening? Did they see you? Did they acknowledge you as a human? Could you communicate with them or did it feel like they were going through you at all costs? I mean, there was a point where, you, th........... I, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, their, to.......... th. You know, the the the th. You know, the the the the the the the the the the the the the going through you at all costs? I mean, there was a point where, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:28 I remember yelling out to the crowd that I had kids. And this is while I was being beaten and struck with a taser. And I did, I think, get through to maybe a handful of the individuals there. And they did try to offer some level of assistance to me. I remember at one point, they were were thied thied thied thied thied thied thied thed thed thed the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thea thea thea thea thea thea thea the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeean... toean. toean.ean. toean.ean. toean. toeauuu. I thea. I thea. thea. to offer some level of assistance to me. I mean, I remember at one point, they were actually fighting with other rioters to try to prevent them from, you know, continuing their assault on me. Right. But, you know, for the most part, I think they just felt like I was an obstacle and they were going to get through me and any of the other officers that were there trying to protect the building and protect ourselves to accomplish their goal, which was overturning a free and fair election?
Starting point is 00:30:16 When you look at how lawmakers have responded, you know, in the book you talk about this, and it's been really scary and disappointing to see how lawmakers have spoken either to you in private or to any of the officers who were there. And it seems like the way they responded on that day and the things that they said behind closed doors are very different to what they now say when they're on TV downplaying everything that happens. You know, for instance, you're really critical of Lindsay Graham, for instance.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Has it been strange for you to see him then publicly downplay the event? After saying to you, you should have killed these people and then publicly say it wasn't as bad as everyone says. Nothing shocks me anymore after all the time that I spent, not only as a police officer for 20 years, but the time I spent on Capitol Hill. I mean, it's unfortunate, I think, not just Republican lawmakers, although they do deserve quite a bit of,the scrutiny that they're getting right now.
Starting point is 00:31:07 But lawmakers in general and how they are indifferent to the people that they are elected to represent and serve. That was the main takeaway that I got was, you know, people like Kevin McCarthy, Lindsay Graham, a lot of these lawmakers, they saw me as an inconvenience. And they were indifferent to what my experience was and what the experience of many of the other officers that day were. And they were indifferent to the experience that, you know, what America is experiencing right now under their half-assed representation.
Starting point is 00:31:45 In the book, you speak to so many of these ideas, and you have a really interesting journey. You know, like I didn't know about your history and law enforcement until I read this book. And, you know, just talking about your tattoos and the work that you did, working undercover narcotics and how, you know, you had the nickname I think it was the Spider-Man, right? Yes. And you were notorious for like, I think you were rock climbing, do you still climb? I do. Yeah, you still have the skills? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say I have the skills, but I give it a shot. their skills, but you also would climb up to perch yourself for, you, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the, they, they, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, you, the, you, the, the, the, you.... the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,re because you were connected and you know the people in the community knew you but you also
Starting point is 00:32:26 would climb up to perch yourself for for sting operations and to be in the right place for for what you were doing. What's interesting is how you talk about law enforcement in the book. It's a longer conversation than just January 6th and you share some some really interesting insights about how you see the failings of American law enforcement and how it is incongruous with what it's actually trying to do. You know, for instance, talking about how to bring down drug rates, drug crimes, drug usage, etra, you don't seem to be pro-locking everybody up with every minor infraction. I'd love to know why.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I mean I learned pretty early on in my career. I mean for me I aspired only to be a vice officer, to work in narcotics. I mean that was like the pinnacle I never sought promotion, was not interested in supervising other officers. I can barely supervise myself. So I mean for me the pinnnacle of my career was when I went to vice. And like I said, I saw, you know, the idea of going out and going into an area in which, you know, violent crime was prevalent where open air drug markets existed,
Starting point is 00:33:45 and locking up hundreds and hundreds of people, that was not solving the problems. It was not addressing violent crime, it was not addressing the open air drug markets. What I saw was a need for much more surgical precision strikes, if you will, against very specific individuals who are committing these violent crimes in those neighborhoods. Quality over quantity. Unfortunately, whether it was through laziness or, you know, and again, it is complicated.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Law enforcement had opted for, you know, we looked at success as a quantity of arrests. How many arrests were made in a specific area? That's how we determined that we were being successful in that area. But it wasn't, you know, as a lot of people might think, it was not fueled by law enforcement officials. That actually came from our city council and from the mayor's office. These concepts, you know, I guess to streamline the explanation you would have, citizens would complain about an area in which there was, the, that, that, that, that, that, that's how, that that's that's that's that, that, that's that's that's that, that's that, that's that's that's that's that, that's that's that, that, that's that, that, that, that, that, that, that's that, that, that, that, tho, tho, that, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thto streamline the explanation, you would have citizens would complain about an area in which there was a large amount of violent crime or drugs.
Starting point is 00:35:14 And then you would have, politicians would, you know, receive those complaints and they would forward them on to the police department. They would want to know what is the police department doing to address this issue. They want results now. They want officers out there, they want them out there making arrests and they want to be able to go back to these citizens and say, well, we made these arrests and that's success. So again, it's not, you know, law enforcement has their role to play. The issue is not as simple as I you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you want, you want, you th, you thin, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, their, tho, their, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thin, thin, thin, thin, want, want, tho, want, want, want, want tho, want tho, want tho, want, want tho, want their, want tho, want their, want, want their, want, want their role to play, and citizens have their role to play. The issue is not as simple as I think a lot of people would think. And again, another big point that I try to make in my book is that I feel like the politicians are failing us in that their role to play is to facilitate positive, constructive conversations
Starting point is 00:36:04 between law enforcement and the people that were charged with serving. And right now I don't feel like that's what's happening. It's a really complicated journey and I think it's it's revealing, it is honest and it's a painful account of what you went through on that day and as you said with the 800 plus offices who also stepped up. Thank you so much for taking the time. Appreciate you for being on the show. Thank you. Thank you. All right everybody, hold the line is available now wherever you find your books. Michael Pannonone, everybody. We're going to take a quick frank. We'll be right back after this. Thank you so much. I really thank you. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, before we go.
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