The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Martial Laws, End Zones, and The Cosmos

Episode Date: December 4, 2024

Ronny Chieng tackles South Korea’s martial law reversal and misconduct allegations against Pete Hegseth. In “Sports War,” Ronny and Jordan Klepper debate Trump-inspired athlete celebrations and ...Hallmark’s NFL holiday collab. Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson joins to share insights from his new book, the contributions of immigrants to science, and why resilience is key in the scientific community.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're going to be talking about the election economics ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to The Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalist at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news.
Starting point is 00:00:29 This is The Daily Show with your host Ronnie Tins! Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Ron Chang. We've got so much to talk about tonight. A Trump nominee hits the strip club, Jordan Klepper and I fight about sports, and Neil DeGrasse Tyson will explain space to me. But first, let's get into the big international story. Breaking news this morning out of South Korea where the president there just declared martial law. Okay South Korea stop giving Trump ideas. He didn't know you could do that. Unfortunately for South Korea this looks like the beginning of a long and slow
Starting point is 00:01:23 descent into dictatorship, a dark period which may last years or even decades. Breaking news from overseas, South Korea's parliament just voted to nullify the declaration of martial law that was made by the country's president just a few hours earlier. Oh, that's great. Ha.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Good old Asian efficiency. The president went nuts, declared martial law, the assembly overruled him, martial law over and they did it all in a lunch break. All right. Everybody get back to doing K-pop. Cha cha. Dance. But I'm glad this didn't get out of hand because I don't even know what martial
Starting point is 00:02:05 law in South Korea looks like. I mean do they wheel this doll out and whoever moves gets shot? But let's turn to a country just beginning its fascism period in another edition of Trump 2.0 coming for the White House. I'm gonna come. Don Trump has spent the last few weeks filling out his cabinet and now that I'm gonna come. Donald Trump has spent the last few weeks filling out his cabinet and now that Matt Gates has dropped out to try to find the high school from Euphoria, there is a new nominee for Shadiest nominee, Pete Hegseth, Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense and guy with
Starting point is 00:02:42 resting divorce face. And alright, let let's hear it, leftist snowflakes. What's wrong with this one? CBS News has confirmed that Pete Hexeth was forced to step down from a veteran's nonprofit after being accused of alcohol abuse, sexual misconduct, and mismanaging the group's money. Okay, that's a lot for one person. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Alcohol, sex, and financial misconduct? I mean, it's called delegating, bud. Try it sometime. How could someone do so many bad things at the same time? Like, not only are you drinking and harassing women, you've also got to find time to suck at QuickBooks? I mean, let's go through his charges because I'm sure the libs are just overreacting.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Like with alcohol, I mean, what? He probably had too much Chardonnay at the office Christmas party like one time. How bad could it be? The report says, Hegseth was repeatedly intoxicated to the point of needing to be carried out of the organization's events.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So inebriated by 1 a.m. that a staffer who had driven him to his hotel in a van full of other drunken staffers asked for assistance to get Hegseth to his room. Hegseth passed out in the back of a party bus, then urinated in front of a hotel where CBA's team was staying. At one point, Hegseth had to be restrained while drunk from joining the dancers on the stage of a Louisiana strip club. Wow, do you know how hard it is to be the saddest thing
Starting point is 00:04:15 at a strip club? I mean, a half naked pregnant woman dancing to pay her medical bills was looking at him like, damn, this guy needs to get some help. Also, how do you not know that you can't just get on stage at a strip club, okay? They don't even let regulars do that. I'm guessing, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's what Wikipedia says. Look, you guys are laughing, but does no one see the tragedy in this? A warrior forced to fight when really he just wants to get on that stage and dance. But yeah, he seems to have nailed the alcoholism. Let's hear about the sexual misconduct. Hexeth and other members of the management team
Starting point is 00:04:55 sexually pursued the organization's female staffers, whom they divided into two groups, the party girls and the not party girls. Okay, let me just check this real quick. Um, all right, yeah, that's not allowed. I don't know what's worse, that he supposedly divided his female staff into party girls and not party girls
Starting point is 00:05:16 or that he couldn't think of a word for not party. Really a bit of a caveman, isn't he? When the sun in sky, day. When sun go away, not day. Time for party girl. So Pete was reportedly constantly drunk and trying to sleep with the party girls on staff. But what about the financial mismanagement?
Starting point is 00:05:41 You say under his leadership, Veterans for Freedom soon ran up enormous debt and financial records indicate that by the end of 2008, the year after he became the leader of the group, it was unable to pay its creditors. Hegs says had treated the organization funds like they were a personal expense account for partying, drinking and using CVA events as little more than opportunities to hook up with women on the road. When he joined this veterans charity,
Starting point is 00:06:09 did he think that he was the veteran it was going to? I mean, guys, it will really help my mental health to go to this strip club, okay? I have PTSD. Party time, suck my d***. So, unlike wraparound shades, none of this is a great look for Pete Hegseth. But you know what? Hey, these are anonymous quotes from a bunch of haters.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I'm sure his mom loves him. Meanwhile, Hegseth's mother sent him an email in 2018 during his second divorce calling him quote, an abuser of women. Penelope Hegseth's mother sent him an email in 2018 during his second divorce, calling him, quote, an abuser of women. Penelope Hegseth writing, quote, I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. Okay, I'm putting mom down as not a party girl.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh, no. No, no. Uh, for more on this controversy surrounding Pete Hegseth's appointment, let's go to Capitol Hill with Troy Wada. Troy, Troy, hey Troy, what's the latest? It's tense, Ronnie. I asked Pete earlier for his response to this report and he said these are baseless allegations
Starting point is 00:07:22 and he's determined to clear his name. And then he threw up all over my shoes. Okay, so what, he's drunk right now? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, that was this morning. He was drunk this morning. He is not drunk now. Yeah. What's that?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Sorry, he also is drunk now. Okay, okay, look, that's ridiculous, okay? This has to kill his nomination. Oh God, I hope not. Sorry, he also is drunk now. Okay, okay, look, that's ridiculous, okay? This has to kill his nomination. Oh, God, I hope not. What, you want a drunk Secretary of Defense? Well, like, the sober ones have been so great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 All they've done has got us into wars, okay? Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again. And who can forget the war on Christmas? Yeah, okay, that last one is not a real war. Yeah, tell that to the Starbucks barista who wished me a happy holidays this morning. It's Christmas, you know, the birthday of Mariah Carey. The point is, I want a secretary who's not invading countries because he's passed out in the Situation Room
Starting point is 00:08:24 covered in his own piss. Yeah, but when he's not invading countries because he's passed out in the situation room covered in his own piss. Okay. Yeah, but when he's not passed out, he'll be a big problem. Like drunk people get mad. Yeah, but it's easier to distract a drunk person, you know? If he's like, I'm mad at France, let's go to war with France.
Starting point is 00:08:40 We'll just say, or let's go to karaoke. You know? And half an hour later, we're in Koreatown, singing Pink Pony Club. Well, he's straight, so it'll be lose yourself, but you get it. Eternal peace. Wait, let me explain it to you visually. Okay, so the more drunk someone is,
Starting point is 00:08:58 the more peaceful they become. Okay, so it goes, Warren, Iraq. Who's Iraq? OMG, I love Iraq so much! Let's adopt a dog. Okay, okay, aren't you worried that a raging alcoholic will have access to the nuclear codes? No.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Do you know how hard it is to enter a code when you're drunk? I'll just be poking away with his little fingies, and halfway through, just realize he's playing Candy Crush on his phone. This all sounds very irresponsible, Troy. America needs a competent administrator of its military. Ronnie, how can I put this? You're sounding very not party girl right now.
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Starting point is 00:11:00 John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to The Weekly Show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, welcome back to The Daily Show. As we witness the dismantling of American democracy, let's take a moment to focus on what people really care about. Sports! For a full recap of the brightest stories in the world of jocks and straps, we turn to Sportswar.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Get ready for battle. It's time for Sportswar! Brought to you by Gamblin. Gamblin, the Gentleman's Addiction. -♪ The Gentleman's Addiction theme song plays. -♪ -♪ The Gentleman's Addiction theme song plays. -♪
Starting point is 00:11:54 Hey, what's up, Chaudhers and Chodettes? I'm Ronny Chieng. And I'm Jordan Klepper. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other. So if I say college athletes should not be paid. Then I say everyone in college should be paid, even the professors.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Uh, the professors do get paid dipshit. Clearly not your professors, Ronnie. I mean, what did you even major in? Let me guess, eating by yourself in the dining hall? Oh, like you or Mr. Popular. Didn't you have three roommates kill themselves? Oh, okay. Like you or Mr. Popular, didn't you have three roommates kill themselves? Okay. Mm.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. It was two. The third we never saw again. Well, enough about college. Let's talk college sports. It was rivalry week for college football, and on Saturday, things got extra rivalry-y. On Sunday, the Big Ten fined Michigan and Ohio State
Starting point is 00:12:47 $100,000 each after a post-game brawl erupted Saturday. Look at this. The fighting broke out between the two squads after the Wolverines planted their flag at midfield of Ohio Stadium. Following their 13 to 10 win over the Buckeyes, police had to use pepper spray to disperse the players. Boom! Whoo!
Starting point is 00:13:07 I love it. As my grandfather used to say, if there's grass on the field, play ball. Just realized that's not what he was talking about. Okay, Jordan, it's a shame you're not handsome because you're very stupid, okay? Reckless fighting should only happen during the game. That's the violence I'm gambling on.
Starting point is 00:13:26 If you have the energy to fight after, that means you didn't play hard enough. Ronnie, you're a dumb man with dumber takes. Look, this melee was fantastic. A football game turned into a UFC fight. That's incredible. More sports should be combined like this. Imagine an NBA game ending, and then, then boom LeBron and Kevin Durant start
Starting point is 00:13:47 competitive losing And bonus more sports equals less time with my family Which brings us to our sick boom bang better than night When will Jordan Klepper finally learn the names of his three children as always? This bet brought to you by gambling. Gambling. I think your mom has some money in her purse. Three children, that can't be right. Moving on to a trend in football that doesn't involve steroid-induced violence, but still
Starting point is 00:14:19 is all the rage. The celebration trend in the sports world, the Trump dance, Trump's double fist pump has been a rally staple for years now. But now the dance jumping from rallies to sports. U.S. soccer star Christian Pulisic busted out the move. Pro football players hitting the Trump dance after big plays. Raiders Ricky Brock Browers in the end zone. Lions player Zedarius Smith after getting a sack. Titans wide out Calvin Ridley celebrated with teammates
Starting point is 00:14:45 after a long score, and UFC champ John Jones hitting the dance after knocking out his opponent while Trump watched. Oh, just stop it with this, okay? I live by two rules. One, I do not mix politics and sports, and two, if I'm watching porn and they start speaking Russian, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:15:04 The least I can do to support Ukraine. And two, if I'm watching porn and they start speaking Russian, I'm out. The least I can do to support Ukraine. Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, you know I support your anti-war Jack Sessions. Totally support. But you're done wrong here. We need more politics in sports. Liberal athletes can do this, too.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You score a touchdown, and then you hit that Joe Biden. Who's gonna hate on that? I hate it, okay? We need to keep politics out of sports. Sunday is for drinking eight beers and watching football. Drinking eight beers and watching Rachel Maddow? That's a Monday thing. You're a Monday thing.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Now, f*** you. I'm a Thursday thing. Oh, yeah. Best I could do is Wednesday thing. Deal. Look, my point still stands, Ronnie. There should be more politics in sports. NHL goalies should be senators. And the slam dunk contest should be all Supreme Court justices.
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Starting point is 00:16:42 has collaborated with the NFL, and the defending Super Bowl champions, the Kansas City Chiefs, are the true stars of the story. Viewers should keep an eye out for some cameos from Chiefs players and some well-known faces. Boo! I hate this trend. Athletes should play sports, and actors should act.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Except O.J. Simpson, you know? He could do both. That guy killed it at everything. Okay. Wrong again, hepatitis Gumbi. Okay, we need more football players in movies. I mean, just imagine Gronk in 12 Years a Slave, okay? Never too soon for a reboot. Ronnie, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:17:23 These football players are moving into our territory. They're trying to plant their flag in our TV industry, and we have to fight them. Okay, well, I'm not fighting alongside you, okay? When do you work out? Dress-bond? You know what? They politely asked me to stop working out there years ago. I'll have you know I do a high-intensity circuit workout
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Starting point is 00:19:26 John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're gonna be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to The Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcasts. to get your podcasts. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is a renowned astrophysicist and author whose latest book is called Merlin's Tour of the Universe.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Please welcome the great Neil deGrasse Tyson. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you're here. ideas. Yeah, you're so beloved. Thanks for coming on. So great to meet you. Well thank you, man. And I as well, I've never met you before. Yeah, I've met you before. I've watched you for years.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I really appreciate you. By the way, I loved you in the movie Megan. Oh, thanks so much. By the way, that terrified me. Yeah, please watch that movie as many times as you can. Yeah. Yeah, I host my contract negotiation. Yeah, this, I loved your book as well.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Your new book. Yeah, thank you. It's a republishing of Q&A's that you got. Brought into the 21st century. Brought into 21st century. And so it's written in terms, the format is kind of short questions and you kind of give answers. And this was done over the course of the last what, 30?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Well, that was done 35 years ago, but I brought it into the 21st century. My brother illustrated it? Yes, your brother illustrated it. Yeah, he's an, but I brought it into the 21st century. My brother illustrated it. Yes, your brother illustrated it. He's an artist. I want to get into that. He actually went to the high school of music and art here in New York City. There you go.
Starting point is 00:21:12 One town, two families. Art and science. And yeah, what I love about this book is like it's almost written like poetry, the science questions in terms of like, you know, every page is a distinct. Yes, thanks for noticing that. in terms of like, you know, every page is a distinct part. Yes, thanks for noticing that. Every attempt to reply to people has its own personality and its own flavor.
Starting point is 00:21:30 But it's almost like reading a Bukowski book. Because you can just have it on your desk and you flip it open and you get some inspiration from how dumb people are. No, that's not true. Like this was written 35 years ago you know well I shouldn't say done it's some good questions how effective would the Hubble Space Telescope be for Earth viewing blah blah blah Houston Texas. But yeah I guess my
Starting point is 00:21:53 point like this was written 35 years ago have you found like the the general public's questions you have gotten dumber or smarter? Where are we trending? Where are we trending? I see both happening simultaneously. Oh no. The smart question is getting smarter and the dumb question is getting dumber. But I don't care, as an educator,
Starting point is 00:22:13 you bring the question on. Okay, so even in science, it's we're going to extremes. Yes, but I'm okay on either side of that fence. Mathematically, it cancels out. Yes, they average out to the middle. Look, very good. Yes, yes, take the average. Is that good? Take Mathematically, it cancels out. Yeah, if they average out to the middle. Look, very good. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Is that good? Is that good? Take the average. It works out. Yeah, I mean, I hate to be, I'm trying to phrase these questions neutrally, but it sounds sometimes, it feels sometimes like, when as an outsider to America, I came here on 30.
Starting point is 00:22:40 And growing up, I always felt like this was the place for innovation. This is where NASA was. This is where they invented the Internet. They invented Apple. This is where oil drillers went to space and blew up an asteroid using nuclear weapons. That actually happened. Yeah, no. So for me, America was always the place you go when you're the best at science.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And do you feel like the politics is kind of getting away of that now? Do people not want to come here? Yeah, so the politics, people can say what they want when they're running for office. What matters is how do you allocate money when the budget gets put out? And I can say, you know, no, we don't have another equation like E equals MC squared. You know, that was good. Right. No, no, that was a hit single.
Starting point is 00:23:22 That was a hit single. That was a hit single. Einstein killed it with the E equals MC squared. In 1905. Right. No, no, that was a hit single. That was a hit single. That was a hit single. Yeah. Einstein killed it with the equal 10T square. In 1905, he knocked the beat out of the park. No, you can't. But it's not just science.
Starting point is 00:23:36 There's the engineering that flows out of that science. This is the cousin of science that is empowered by science. So you've seen pictures from the James Webb Space Telescope bringing the edge of the universe to the front of your face, putting it in your backyard. That's been happening. You've seen Elon Musk chopstick a booster out of the sky to reuse later, okay?
Starting point is 00:23:59 We've never seen that before. We have a rover on Mars the size of an SUV that brought a helicopter with it. Yes. Okay, so what are you complaining about? Wait, no, no, no. I'm sorry, doctor. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Wait, wait, wait, wait. One more, I got one more, one more. Was it two weeks ago, three weeks ago? NASA launched the Europa Clipper mission to go orbit Jupiter and dip close to the frozen surface of Jupiter's moon, Europa, and search for life in that moon. Yeah, yeah, it touched Europa's moon, yeah. But, no, but, dude, like, doctor,
Starting point is 00:24:39 what are you trying to tell me? I'm trying to tell you this stuff is still going down. Okay, well, it sounds like you're trying to convince me that science is good. I don't disagree. I agree science is good. I'm just asking in your expert opinion, do you think that the kind of divisive politics we're facing right now is adverse to American innovation and scientific development? I haven't seen, it can be that, but we have to be very careful.
Starting point is 00:25:04 But you haven't seen evidence of it. I don't see Important evidence of it. None of this none of this bothers you none of anything You haven't seen anything that bothered you about different question Is anything bother you in the last I don't know maybe year of Presidential elections that makes you think that maybe science is in trouble. So I worry, for example, that people get their science off of random places on the internet, off a click bait, rather than looking at what this scientific establishment has discovered for us. Sure.
Starting point is 00:25:46 So take, you get someone on there and say, the whole establishment is wrong and I'm right, click here. That's irresistible. Yeah, that's what we do on this show. It's irresistible. It's very effective. And I'm thinking, no, science doesn't work that way. It works by you get enough observations and data.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And if it comes to agreement, that's the new Objective truth, right? It's not one lone person that says whatever the hell he wants Doctor so far I I agree with you that Science is good and the internet is stupid I'm asking are you worried about where we're headed in terms of because America was always the leader to me. I know that's certain and whatever is happening. Okay. I'm saying America's the leader of science. Are you worried because because all of the House of Representatives gets voted on every two years and a third of the Senate and the
Starting point is 00:26:41 president gets voted on every four years. Yeah, at any time that I feel depressed I say, and this too shall pass. Okay, that's not helpful. That's Buddhism. That's Buddhism. So, give me some Buddhism then. I want you for science, okay? You're the science guy. Buddhism is my thing.
Starting point is 00:27:01 You're the science guy. You give the science. Okay, well, here's, I guess I'll put it more clearly. Here's what'll happen, here's what'll happen, okay? If our science goes bad, okay, and other countries rise up, then we all come together and say, we don't wanna be bested by these other countries. And that would be a good reason to come together,
Starting point is 00:27:18 rather than targeting enemies within us, right? That is good, but you have faith that that will happen. Let me put it this way because like we you know what one thing that was always what I'm getting at this whole questioning is that the innovation America seems to me driven a lot by immigrants to America. Immigrants invented the phone, they invented Einstein was an immigrant, everyone's an immigrant, so. Elon Musk is an immigrant. Elon is an immigrant.
Starting point is 00:27:48 So that, okay, well, maybe that's not great. No, but I'm just saying, if you have an environment that's kind of saying, hey, country first, let's not have so much immigration that affects science. One third of all Nobel prizes in the sciences that have gone to Americans have gone to immigrants. Okay. One third.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Okay. I track that every year. Great. So I know that number. Okay. So I've never been spooked by immigrants the way so many other people have. I know. So are you worried about, again, we agree, immigrants are good for science. Are you worried that...
Starting point is 00:28:20 If you close, if you, if you, if you start closing things off, Yeah. If you close, if you start closing things off, we will descend and become a shadow of what we once were as a technological power in this country. So it may be, not to make you depressed, it may be we need to sink deeper before people wake up to the consequences of these actions or the consequences of the inactions when they should have taken action. We may have to sink deeper before we just get slapped in the face and say, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 00:28:54 bring the science back. Okay, that's bad. This is bad. This is a, this is, you're describing a dark age right now, which I was hoping would not happen but I guess I got to turn to Buddhism to get out of that one. But, right, so... By the way, I think that's Persian, and this too shall pass.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Uh, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, Buddha will claim it. Yeah, Buddha. Okay. We'll give that one to Buddha. I'll give that one to Buddha. Yeah, all right. Um, yeah, but like, uh, there is, like, uh, um, this idea that, uh, I feel like anytime I see you
Starting point is 00:29:23 explaining something, uh, about science in America right now, it's like people just want to argue, like pull you into this culture war. Yeah. And you know what, to be fair, I guess if you look at history, scientists have always been pulled into politics and the culture war. But you as like a kind of front-facing member of the science community trying to educate people, how do you navigate this? Yeah, it's hard because another thing is clickbait is he said, she said, he said, you said that
Starting point is 00:29:53 comment on what they said. No, I'd rather comment on ideas and mission statements of what we can be as a species, as a nation, as a world. And so I try to avoid it, but sometimes they just drag it down, drag into the trenches. And I can fight in the trenches, you know. But I can fight, but I don't want to. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:30:17 So what's the- I can kick some ass. Yeah, I know, I know. What's up? Yeah. I was undefeated. Force equals mass times acceleration. Yes, you got that. You got the other equation.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That preceded equals MC squared. But no, I was captain and undefeated on my high school wrestling team. Damn. It was 40 pounds ago, but I'm still feeling it. Well, that's exactly what we need right now. We need Neil deGrasse Tyson to f*** me some assholes. Cage match with somebody. Yeah, so, like, I guess your advice is to beat the shit out of people.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That's... I don't know what... What can the science community... No, you can do it with love by offering them perspectives they had never previously recognized was in front of them. And you say, have you thought about it this way or that way? No, I hadn't thought about it that way. And let's go have a beer.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Yeah, that sounds like every interaction on the internet. The internet is a cesspool, has become a cesspool. Okay. And I'm very disappointed. So science bad on that one internet Oh, there's some good science that happens there But but yeah as an invention we all thought we would just be the the community town hall and it's just it's a cesspool Get off it. I
Starting point is 00:31:36 So on a more helpful note, I feel like like thank you have a more helpful note. Yeah I'm trying so far. It's not been a great World right now, but internet sucks and we're gonna go into a dark age. It's kind of a message Oh this like we I feel like you know, we used to revere scientists a bit more in America You know and like when when I get I think what we need from scientists right now is like a hit single What you said you need another yeah, we need like a E equals MC square Like we give us a give us something to be like. Okay, Einstein's gonna come around all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Well, you know, that's what we need. We need something, give us something. Give us something. Einstein was like 200 years, 300 years after Isaac Newton and they're big, you know, big men on campus. So what, we got 250 years till the next. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the... Give us something. Maybe, I don't know. Give me the equation, something that we can hold onto as a society.
Starting point is 00:32:29 You want an equation? I want like a hit single, come on. Give us the club beat, give us the commercial something that science is, you know, quantum mechanics, fit something. Okay. Computers. All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I'll boil it down to one word. Okay. Maybe. This is f All right, all right. I'll boil it down to one word. Okay. Maybe. This is f***ing. Dude. You need a maybe. Einstein hated maybe. Einstein hated maybe.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Einstein would. You need a maybe every now and then because you don't know the answer, but you're hopeful for one that will satisfy not only you, but the survival of the species. So. Yeah, maybe is kind of depressing. I got, that wasn't, that's not the hit single
Starting point is 00:33:08 I was hoping for. No, there are people who are paying attention, I think. Oh. A few. Oh. People. I got people. No, there's a few.
Starting point is 00:33:20 There's a few out there. Oh, name one person paying attention. Name... I feel like we're just in a... In the scientific institutions that we have, National Institutes of Health, National Academy of Sciences, academic... I know, right? I get that.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But leaders come and go. The scientists are there for their careers, okay? In the end, they is who will triumph. Okay. I hope so okay I hope so I hope so you relax it every time I actually do do you know the chemical formula okay I'm gonna ask you a few questions on the internet right now. Okay. And in the spirit of your book,
Starting point is 00:34:07 and if you can answer them. Q and A, bring it on. Here's a friendly internet Q and A. Okay, our first question comes from Twitter. Can wind turbines cause cancer? This is from President Trump. Oh. This is from President Trump. Oh, thanks. Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss That's a no. That's a no. You gotta get down and deep on that one. That's a no. Solid E equals MC.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Of all the things you wanna worry about cancer, this should be last on that list, not even on the list at all. Not on the list at all. That's correct. Okay, second question is also comes from Twitter. Why can't we drink raw milk? This is from RFK incoming incoming president of health okay has he
Starting point is 00:35:10 ever seen microbes that could be thriving in raw milk under a microscope this guy seen any this guy yeah if you if you somebody should invite him to see what's going on there under a microscope okay he might he might feel different so what's your answer can we drink raw milk or not? Can we just unambiguously... You can drink anything that's liquid. It's just whether you care, whether you die or get sick at the end. Yes, you can drink anything. No, don't say that to the f***ing idiots. This is on the... the idiots are watching. Stop, don't say that. Don't... do not...
Starting point is 00:35:41 You can drink bleach. You can drink any of this? You will die. Okay? I'm just saying if you want an esophagus when you're done don't drink bleach. Okay. I feel like we're going from chemistry to Darwinism right now. Well there's the Darwin award. You know what the Darwin award is? I do know what it is. Yes. It's people who drink bleach. No, no, people do something completely stupid that kills themselves before they have children. Yes. So they're removed from the gene pool.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yeah, yeah. It's a calling of the herd. Don't applaud that. Let's applaud that in our heads for legal reasons. We can't applaud. Okay. Publicly. Okay, I got two more for you.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Two more for me. Two more. Okay. Is there a pill that can reverse the effects of the COVID-19 vaccine? This is from nominee for FBI. Go. Okay. Is there a pill that can reverse the effects of the COVID-19 vaccine? This is from nominee for FBI Director Cash Patel. Wow. A pill that will remove the... Effects. Reverse the effects of the COVID-19 vaccine.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Reverse the vaccine. Like, why would you want to do that? Dude, hey, man, I'm just asking the questions here. You reverse it so that you can die from the virus I get look this is a free country if that's what they want to do I don't know that we can stop them nobody's that pill is the answer to science. Oh, okay Okay, if such a pill exists, I know nothing of it So it might exist it might exist. That's not what I said. Yeah, that's kind of what you said. That's kind of what you said, man.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Okay, last one here. Give me one more here. Alright, also from the internet. Can the government manipulate the weather with Jewish space lasers? This is from anonymous congresswoman. This is more in your realm, astrophysics. This is, what are the physics of Jewish space lasers? That's like the style I focus the thing in there.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Okay. The prism of it. A laser will function as lasers do, no matter the religion of who invokes it. You know the more you speak, the more you're more like a Buddhist Zen Master Cohen than scientists here. I'm just saying, when you turn on a laser, the religion of the person doesn't matter. That's A. B, to worry that a space laser could affect the weather while we are simultaneously pumping CO2
Starting point is 00:38:08 into the atmosphere, possibly irreversibly changing the weather, seems to me to be a completely misguided, misprioritized sense of the world. Okay. That's, yo. But the answer is no. The answer is no. No, not a maybe no. Just say that to the, yeah. Yes. Yo. But the answer is no. The answer is no. No, not a maybe no.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Just say that to the, yeah. No. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. No. All right. Okay, well, look, you can follow, you can get his book. But really, I mean, what a treasure that we have.
Starting point is 00:38:43 We're alive around when Dr. Tyson is here to educate us. Hey, The early short universe is available now. Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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