The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Michael Kosta Unpacks America's Plastic Water Bottle Problem | Jordan Jonas

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

Michael Kosta dives deep into the U.S.'s obsession with plastic water bottles and how harmful they are to the environment. Then, Michael Kosta sits with Wilderness guide & self-reliance expert Jordan Jonas discusses how he developed the skillset to win season six of "Alone," his personal connection with nature and conservation and why building a fire is the most important survival skill. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The number one package drink in the United States isn't Coke or Gatorade or even Haterade. It's bottled water. We Americans buy 50 billion disposable water bottles a year. And I know what you're thinking, oh shit, another depressing environment story. So can I not even drink water without ruining my children's future? But that's the thing. This is one environment story that actually has a really easy solution. And I'm gonna tell you what it is in another installment of long story short.

For most of human history, people got by fine without bottled water. People got water from their well or the local stream or by throwing a virgin into a volcano, so it would rain. It was a perfect system. For water bottles started to become popular in the 80s, mainly for health reasons. In 1986, the EPA warned Americans that their tap water might be turning them

into number two pencils. This might sound familiar to you if you grew up in the 80s, or in Jackson, Mississippi, last week. And then marketers smelled money. And soon, bottled water wasn't just about health, but a whole healthy, sexual lifestyle. Keep your body at its peak. Drink Avion. Pure Avion spring water from the French house. It's refreshing, it's natural,

and it doesn't have one single calorie. Imported Perrier. It goes with good food. It's what I drink instead of a cocktail. It's what I drink instead of a cocktail. Sure, but you can just say you've got DUIs. All right, we've all got DUIs. Look, props to these water companies, they turned water into something sexy as opposed to something you

just need to survive. These ads were basically like, oxygen. It really helps me lay pipe. So fast forward to today. Thank you. Great performance. So fast forward to today and the average American drinks upwards to 167 bottles a year, usually right before a long-haul flight when I'm in the aisle seat. Hey, just be an adult and wear a diaper like the rest of us? Now you might be asking, where does all that water come from? The ocean? No, I tried that once.

I got so sick. In reality, in order to get bottled water to the masses, water companies like Nestle, often suck up water from public lands for little to no cost. that awesome, right? We love it when multinational conglomerates find success. The problem is this creates a massive environmental impact. When these companies are called out for it, they come up with explanations like this. Nelson Switzer is Nestle Waters' chief sustainability officer. Some people would say, this is the people's water. Is it fair that you guys make so much money off of it?

Nestle has water rights, of course, in this area. From a legal standpoint, of course it's fair. From a perception standpoint, I understand why people are asking that question. But water belongs to no one. Oh, really? Really, Nestle, water belongs to no one? That's the dumbest thing anyone has ever said, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, th, th, th, th, the th, the th, th, the their, their, their, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi.e?e?e?e?e.e?e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. Wea.e.e.e. Wea.e. Wea, their, their, their, their, the dumbest thing anyone has ever said about water. And keep in mind, Gwenneth Paltrow once said that you can hurt water's feelings by yelling at it. If water really belongs to no one, then why can't I go swimming in my neighbor Eric's

coy pond? Why did it scare his kids per the police report? But sucking up all the fresh water is just the beginning of our problems? Making the bottles the bottles the bottles the bottles the bottles th tho tho the bottles tho th th tho tho tho th water that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you can that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you can't that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you th. th. th. th. th. th. the water. the water. the water. the water. the water. the water. the water. the water water water. the water. the water the water. the water the the the the the that. You can't the that. You can can't the that. You can't the that. You can't the that. You can't the the is just the beginning of our problems. Making the bottles and shipping them to you uses 17 million barrels of oil a year. That's enough oil to fill one million cars for a whole year or grease up Don Jr. for one weekend. Plus most bottles just get thrown in the trash. Oh, but I recycle it. Okay, thanks for putting it in the green bin before they send it to Malaysia where they put it in the trash there. And the stupidest part is, it's totally almost unnecessary.

The majority of the country has access to safe, free tap water. We're transporting a product from 3,000 miles away that we can get from our kitchens. In fact, most of the bottle water we drink is literally tap water, including aquifina and Dessani. That's right. Dissani just takes tap water, adds fart smell to it, and that's how they make Dissani. And maybe you buy natural spring water because it's healthier, but it turns out not always. In fact, a study of Fiji water found that it has more arsenic than tap water from Cleveland. Yet you thought bottled water was safer? Turns out it's slowly poisoning you like a wife on date line. So considering that tap water is good enough for the vast majority of us, the solution to the huge environmental problems of

bottled water is obvious. Boom! Problem solved! Using a refillable water bottle cuts down on fossil fuels, creates less waste, and could even save you $16,000 over its lifetime. That's enough to pay for a luxury vacation or 16 shitty vacations. So long story short, this is like the easiest choice in the history of no-brainers. If everyone in the United States just went with the reuse of water bottles, we'd save money, solve an environmental crisis. And the best part of that is then that's one less environmental crisis you'd have to hear people like me bitching about. You

probably already have nine of these. Open a cabinet in your kitchen and one will fall on you. And tomorrow start using it. That's how you save the planet. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday we're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance,

it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a wilderness guide and self-reliance expert who won season 6 of the History Channel show alone. Please welcome Jordan Jonas. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. What are we out here?

So, thanks for coming to New York City. What an honor. Thanks for the invite. Now I'm in your world. Yeah, you're in my world now. Yeah. We were trying to get a hold of you. You live in Montana.

Yeah. The booking department was freaking out. You're gonna make your flight. You weren't responding to anything. And then they told me you sent this text yesterday. I literally just galloped on a horse for the last 10 miles in the wilderness, so I'd be able to catch my flight in the morning. Ha ha ha. So. This isn't like a bullshit act. You are a wilderness guy. I was in the woods. Yeah, it was a fast horse fortunately. So I made it out. You won season six of History Channels alone. You spent 77 days alone in the Arctic. You killed a moose with a bow and arrow. Then a Wolverine was trying to steal your moose meat, so you killed that with a hatchet.

Dog eat, dog world down there. You figured out a way to fish in the frozen tundra which helped you win. Tell me about winning alone. Oh man, what a, I never pictured that as being a career opportunity. No, it was an incredible experience, man. Nothing like the pressure getting dropped off on a helicopter and you don't get another meal until you catch it. Right.

I don't like that ind definitely. But you also get the pure joy that's almost hard to replicate of every time. Every time you catch a fish or a rabbit or whatever it is, it's pure joy. And like that all the way up until the end, which, yeah. I mean, I think it's sometime, we get so jaded watching reality TV. I mean, this is, you're alone. Yeah, yeah. No one's giving you granola bars and saying like,

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I'm gonna starve out here. So I was all focused on food. I thought I'm gonna bait a, catch a bunch of fish, make a pile of fish and bait a bear in and hunt. But I didn't catch many fish to begin with and no bear. So I got I a moose and just rolled from there. Amazing. Yeah. Tell me about where some of this skill set came from. Yeah. Because this story fascinates me and it seems to have really affected your view on the world and affected who you are. Yeah, when I was in my early 20s I went over to Russia and spent a bunch of time living with nomadic reindeer herders.

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the woods. And I learned a ton from them, and they all of course became good friends, and I spent a lot of years living with them, so. You know, I should be honest with our audience. Jordan and I've met before and I took one of your wilderness expeditions. My wife and I started to watch alone during COVID as a lot of people did and were just blown away at the show and also you because you had all this amazing skill set, you could feed yourself, you could survive, but then there also seemed to be a connection and humility with nature that was really beautiful.

Now I know you, I know that's all bullshit. But, um, no, so my wife buys me for my birthday, this wilderness survival expedition with Jordan. I honestly, after the COVID, I think she was just trying to kill me. And this is me on the right, and this is, I can't even explain to to to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to you to that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that was that that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that that that th. I th. I that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. the COVID, I think she was just trying to kill me. This is me on the right, and this is, I can't even explain to you everything about this, but I flew to Missoula, Montana. I drove four and a half hours. Then I got on a horseback for eight hours with you and nine other people whose partners were trying to kill that. We were at 13,000 feet maybe in

the bitter root mountains. Ten thousand feet. Let me exaggerate a little bit. And you really taught us some things in a really gentle kind way. There's a picture of you teaching us how to trap some small animals. What is this trapping device? Talk to these big city folk about this. You guys all know about this. That's like a basically a mouse or a rat trap. It's called a Paiu deadfall but that's one of the, yeah if you don't trap the mice that are harassing you at night you'll have a miserable survival experience. I thought that would be particularly helpful for so many New Yorkers. Yeah I know that's it is that is that is that that that that that th. th. that th. th. th. That's th. th. That's th. That's th. That's th. That's th. th. That's th. It is th. It's th. It's th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. th. thi is te. ty. ty. ty. try. today. ty. try. today tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. the the to the the the the that would be particularly helpful for so many New Yorkers. Yeah, I know, that's what it is.

That's an excellent trap to learn. You were so kind to me. One day we were walking on the mountain, we see this lake. And I don't know if you didn't have an itinerary or if out in the wilderness you don't have an it's no schedule. Yeah, so you go, do you guys want to walk down to to to we're like, yeah, of course it took all day. It's a fucking exhausting. And we get down to the lake and we start fishing, but we just had a little bit of fishing line. I remember you handed me this casting reel. I had a hook. I threw the casting reel in the lake. It was holding onto my hook. but it was not natural for me.

Is it important for you to introduce people to nature in this way? I mean, you could have easily been like, Jesus Christ, you threw the wrong thing into the lake. No, I actually love it, man. I feel like it's so important for people, especially in the modern world to be able to escape. And I love, you know, it's awesome to be all the power of people to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, th.. And, the, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, th... And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, the, the, the, the, the, they.a, te.a, to, to, to, too, they.a, ttoe.a.a.a.a. they. they. And, the, the, the, the, the modern world to be able to escape. And I love, you know, it's awesome to be all empowered people to go out there and experience what nature does have to offer. Who did that for you? Where did you learn? Well, I kind of grew up on a farm in Idaho

and that helped. But I really learned a lot living with the natives. I'd say, you know, it's kind of what set my knowledge base apart to to. So then Jordan just grabs like some fishing raw, a piece, a stick and some fishing line and he just gets like 11 fish. He was a picture of that. That's where we camped that night. And then he didn't just cook them like rudimentary style. He did a nice little smoke, here's the fire with the fish on it. you know, tell us tell their the their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the st, st, st, st, st, st, st, st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. st. Tell us about that. Oh yeah, alder. So up in the northern regions,

alders a great smoking wood. So I like to lay those green alder sticks down on top of the coals, put your fish on top of that. Delicious. It was excellent. Tell me about, let's say, reaction to hunting, big game hunting. It's easy for me to see pictures online and see this people and go, I don't like this, you're killing an animal. I also feel like you care a lot about nature and conservation. How can those two

be connected? Yeah, that's actually a really fascinating question. I think we are no matter what we think we're a part of nature. And in my experience, people who hunt, who rely on nature to feed themselves or families. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I thi. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi. I thi. I thi. I I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I that, I don't that, I don't that, I don't thateat. I don't thateat, I don't that. I don't that, I don't thi. I thi. I that, people who hunt, who rely on nature to, you know, feed themselves or families, there's almost, there's few people that are more in tune with the health of a particular ecosystem because you rely on it. So, though you do take individual animals at times, you know, according to all the laws and all that, you're also really, you know, wishing the best for the species and working to, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to know, to know, to know, to, to, to know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you know, wishing the best for the species and working to, you know, provide that through via conservation, which is, you know, as when you're hunting you're paying money into the system, they put that money back into the science and the habitat protection that protects animals.

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for me, I am not a hunter, but I definitely fished and killed a grouse that week because I was fucking starving. And you said, we're only going to eat what we can procure for the next 36 hours. Well, guess what? Costa doesn't really procure much. But man, and this is going to be silly to you. It may be silly to everybody else. But when I took this little grouse's life, it really meant something. And it was sad to me. Yeah.

But we then cleaned it. We cooked it that night. It was my dinner. And I just thought on the flight home, I made a lot of notes. I had so much I had to be thankful for. I was like, I'd never been that close to my food before. You appreciate it. I go to the grocery store. I buy four pounds of whatever, three of it goes in the track. I mean, it's like, man, that was like such a different connection. And that's gone for the most part from us. I think it's valuable. Yeah, I know, I think we've all been disconnected. We were talking about packaging earlier. Right. You know, everything has come in a package.

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be understand your thoughts and all that and so I want to make sure they can always have the skills and ability to create that space for themselves and so I'm convinced my daughter's three and a half I'm convinced if we take a walk outside and I put my phone somewhere else, a lot of stuff gets solved. Just walking together outside, you know, and that's my little parenting hack. But is there a survival skill that you could recommend to everybody to learn or is there a hack for connecting to nature if you live in a high rise in the upper west side of New York, or Brooklyn, or you don't have a car,

you can't get up state. You guys in Montana take all this shit for granted. I have literally, I have one tree on my street. And the way people drive, I think, sure, it's going to come down some day. Well, I gotta say, like, I feel like there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's a to come down someday. So. Well, I got to say, like, I feel like there's a lot of value in like setting aside a period of time, even if it's just yearly, you know, to go out in the wood and spend enough time to where you really, your phone is off and you really do have time to think your thoughts and to talk with the people that you're around. And I think even just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just their, to to to to to the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to the to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their thi their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th'll recharge you enough to get back into the you know the chaos of the modern world with a little better more level head and priorities in line what about a

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the key to building a fire is what? Have dry tender so find some good dry stuff or take it with you cotton ball with Vaseline's good and then I always have two ways of starting to fire an easy one like a lighter and then the ferro rod which you're a master of and the and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm th. I'm th. I's is th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm. I'm. I'll. I's. I's is to to to to to th. I's is. I's is. I's is is to be. I's is is is to be. I's is is to to to to to to th is is is is th is is th is th is th is th. I I I I I's is th. I's is th. I's is th. I's is th. I's is th. I's th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. th. the. th. the the the the. the the. the the the. I'll. I'm. I'm. I'll. I'll. I'll the th. I rod, which you're a master of. And that's like a fail-safe way of starting to fire. That way, no matter what happens, you're warm. Yeah. Don't start fires in your apartment. Don't start fires through lithium batteries on scooters. That's New York's problem.

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