The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Oprah Winfrey On Using Her Platform As A Force For Good

Episode Date: January 29, 2024

In honor of Oprah's birthday today, we're highlighting host, Trevor Noah's interview with her discussing her book "The Path Made Clear." She discusses the consistencies she found among the successful folks she spoke to for the book and highlights the importance of understanding and following your purpose. She also sits with Trevor during his "After the Cut" segment and answers questions from fans in the audience. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Made Clear, Discovering Your Life's Direction and Purpose. Please welcome Oprah Winfrey. Oh, the true. So, hey, that's true. Oh, the true. Oh, the true. Oh, the true people! Oh, the chaper people! Oh, the triver people! Oh, they'retubber people! Hello! I'm the same. That's fun.

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And our time is up. We'll be right back. Thank you. That's that. Do you ever get our time is up, we'll be right back. Thank you. Do you ever get used to the amount of joy you see on people's faces when you walk by? Because even in the building, Oprah, this is the craziest thing that's ever happened to me. Let me tell you now. We're backstage. I'm getting my makeup done. We're walking. Then Oprah just walks through the building, just greeting everyone. Hello, hello, hello. But surely you realize that you are causing chaos everywhere you go. No, actually I love these moments.

This happens to me quite often. I'll run into someone who says, oh my god, you don't know what this means. And I said, yeah, I do. You came home from school. Your mom wasn't there. Yes. You were a latchkey kid. You watch me four o'clock So I raised you right. Yes, they're like yes you raised. So I I feel like I feel rewarded by that. I feel like I think I did a good lot of good job raising people. I think you'd a great job.

I think you're great job. That's what I think. But this is what? Trevor. I knew it was time to leave the show when people people. I the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I the show. I the show. I the show. I the show. I the show. I the show. I th. I the show. I the show. I the th. I th. I th. the th. th. th. th. th. their. their. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. th. th. th. th. Yes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the th. th. the. the. the. the. th. the. think. But this is what, Trevor, I knew it was time to leave the show when people who had come to the show, then they had children, and their children are now having children watching the show. It's time to go. You know, you say that, but I honestly wonder if you didn't leave too soon. Here's why I say this. You left the show, but it feels like we never tha, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, thi, thi, the show, but it feels like we never got tired of Oprah. I mean, we now are watching you on Super Soul Sundays. We're now seeing Oprah. Do you think you just needed a break-in to do something else? Well, you know what, I do wish that there, the only

time I actually really missed, mismissed it was 2016 because I thought for sure that speaking to the audience every day. Because every day after the show, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, thi, do, do, do th, do th, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do th, do th, do th, do th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to to to to to th to to th to to th tho, do to to to tho, to to tho, to to to to to to to thooo, to to to to to to to to to thoooo, this is what I missed the most. I missed having a discourse with the audience every day. And because every day after the show, it's been time with the audience. Because for years I signed autographs, and then I thought, one day I didn't and I had so much more energy, what do I really want to do? I want to talking, talking, talk. So I would not have been surprised by the election or anything

because I would have been talking to people from all states. You would have been in toubts to be in toubts. That's really interesting. It would have been my direct connection. And so that's what I missed. It feels like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that beings. That's what this book feels like it's about. The path made clear, discovering your life's direction and purpose. You seem like someone who's always had your path like nailed down. Yeah, pretty clear.

Like, where do you think you got that from? And why do you think this book will help people do the same thing? Just like you being raised, first of all, I love your book so much. I love your books so much. Thank you. I love your book so much. And being raised by a strong grandmother who taught me to read, but what I learned to read was the Bible and grew up in kindergarten. When I went to kindergarten, you know the story the way I went to kindergarten? I had been in Mississippi, which was an apartheid state. Right, right. And so when I moved to Milwaukee and had just started kindergarten, I walked in and all these little white kids were doing their ABCs,

and I said, I know some big words, and I wrote them all down to my kindergarten teacher. Oh wow. Shadrack, Mishak, a bin to go, me and my grandma. And I got myself out of kindergarten the first day. That is hilarious. Yes. So having grounded in something that I knew was bigger than myself is is set the course for me to understand that there's always something greater than you and that no matter what you are going to be all right. So that should be your mantra. Look at wherever

you come from. Things are always working out for you. And when you have faith, you know that things always will. The book really feels like a conversation with the reader that does exactly that. It talks to you about the journeys and the steps that you can take in life to get you where you need to be. What I enjoy is you speak to people who are inspiring all walks've noticed. You love being inspired by people. But you're Oprah. But you're Oprah though. No, but it's... Why do you choose these people in the book to inspire us with their stories? Because they're all people that I've been talking to over the years on Super the Sunday and master classes. You, you're on page 169. I am. Yes, you are. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. And the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. And. And. the their. the the the the the the the their. their their their their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. But. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Why. their. their. Why. Why. Why. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their the the their their the their their their their the life, I only talk to who I want to talk to. Okay? So, I just, I really do.

And so to be, to be surrounded by people, and this is the truth, whether you have a talk show or not, whatever you're doing in your life, you need to surround yourself with people who are going to stimulate, inspire, and lift you up, who are going to give you energy and not take energy away from you. And if you're around people who are taking energy away from you, that's an energy drain. And that is the sign from your instinct, your inner voice, your intuition to say, let them go. Wow. Wow.

All right. We've still got a lot more with Oprah Winfrey coming up. Don't go away, everybody. We'll be right back. We're today. Yeah, it's a big one. Welcome back to the daily show. We are here with Oprah Winfrey talking about her brand new book, the path made clear,

discovering your life's direction and purpose. When you look at successful the to to to everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, to everyone, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, to, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, oh, oh, oh, oh, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, wow, wow, to, to.o, to. Oh, to. Oh, to. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Clear, Discovering Your Life's Direction and Purpose. When you look at successful people, you have talked to everyone in the world who is successful. What would you say is the one common characteristic that you find gets people to where they want to go? The most important question is, the people get to where they want to go. Most people don't know where they want to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the to. the to. the to. the the the the too. too. too. too. too. too. too. the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the the their. their. the the the the the the the the the the their. too. too. tooseweree. tooomereeck. tooomereeckeckeck. tooomereeck. tooombea. tooomorrow. tooomorrow. tooe. tooseweree. too. Most people don't know where they want to go. Most people, a lot of people, are going and being driven by what they think they should do, what other people say they should do, what

they have carried in their mind for a long time they should do. But the most important question you can ever ask yourself is what do I really want? And the answer to that, and the answer to that is, and have everything you do, every choice their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, to do, to do, their, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what to do, what I to do, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, th... th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thin. their their toe. their toe. their toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. their. toe. their, what is, what is, what is, what is, toe. toe. th. th. the answer to that, once you can establish for yourself what the answer to that is, and have everything you do, every choice you make, move you in the direction of what you say your vision is. Right. Yeah. And when you do that, the forces of life rise up to meet you. The reason why most people have such chaotic lives is because they're living in chaos in their head. And as soon as you get clear, it clears up. You have... It clears up. And I did this book, you know what, one of the reasons I did this book, because you know I have all these wonderful girls from South Africa who love you.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, to give you context, you you started the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy in South Africa, which is honestly one of the most amazing institutions. Because it goes beyond just a school. It's an idea. You've gotten girls in a country where for so long.

No, it really is. It's an idea where you've said to these young black girls who are powerful and empowered to be like, hey, be the best you can be. And you are creating leaders. But what what you you you thua thua thua tho tho tho, you've tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. what you found and you speak about this is that there was a pressure that came with that where they went, I went to Oprah school, which means I have to be everything. Yeah. But you only have to be yourself because there's nobody else in the world who's quite like you. And what your real job is to do is to come to the world and understand that your job is to figure out what it is your their is your their is your their is your their is your job..... You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is your job. You is to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their is I I I is I is I is I is I is I is I their their their the world. I have. I have. I have. I have their their the the world. I have. I have. I have the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to their to figure out what it is you have to offer. Like what you do every night looks like a talk show, but what you're offering us is relief. What you're offering us is a way to see ourselves differently.

What you're offering us is humor, but what you're offering us is a way in to see our culture. And that is what you do. And so it's bigger than just this moment with you and I sitting in the chair. Wow. Because what you are broadcasting to the world is this sort of essence of yourself. You know, your purpose is greater than than this moment in this chair. You know that. Was there ever a moment where you maybe had the wrong idea of what your purpose would be? I know you speak a little bit about in the book, but was there ever a moment and you're glad that you failed because it put you on the path that you were meant to be on. Well, you know, we were just talking about this during the commercial break.

It was actually a show that I was doing with skinheads and, you know, white supremacists, where I thought I was showing the world their vitriol, letting the world see that. And I recognize they were actually using me, they were using that platform, because I at the time did not understand how powerful the platform was. Wow. So when I figured that out, I literally said I'm only going to use my work this platform as a force for good. Yes. I will cause no harm. Let me ask you this. When you when you were demoted from the news division, oh yeah. That's an interesting moment because you know in life, they always go, you know fail and then then then th then then th then th th then th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin th thin thin thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi tho tho thi thi thi thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th. th. So th. So, so w w w wo tho. So wo. So wo. So wo. So wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. So wo. So tho. So tho. So, the news division, Oh yeah. That's an interesting moment, because you know in life, they always go, you know, fail and then try again

and try again and try again. But this is an interesting one because you technically failed at the news division, you would demote it to the talk show, but the talk show ended up being the greatest promotion in your life. cream man, okay? It's not like a big guest. It's a Carvel Ice Cream man and it is multi-flavors. Okay. But I had been demoted from the news because I was too emotional. I would get too engaged in the stories.

I would go, yes, I was too emotional. And I was always getting written up for being too emotional with the stories. And so had I not been demoted, I probably would have been to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to to be a to be a to be a to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be. to be to be to be demed. to be demed. to be demed. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be demoted.... to be demoted. to be demoted. to be demoted. the the the the the the to the the the the the the to the the to the to the the to to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to long time continued on that path because my father was like, they paying you $25,000, you better keep that job. So I would have stayed for all the wrong reasons instead of taking what looked like a failure in the moment and being demoted. And then the moment I sat down on my first talk show, I thought, I have come home to myself. And that's what everybody is looking for, the path that allows you to come to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, I.. I'm the the the the the the their their. I'm their, their their, their. I'm their their. I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I me me me me me me. Ie. Ie. Ieck. I will. I will. I willeck. I m toeck.eck. I peck. I m teck. teck. teck. te. toeck. toeck. toeck. I'm toeck. I'm toe. I thought, I have come home to myself. And that's what everybody is looking for, the path that allows you to come home to yourself.

I feel like you're creating that for others now, because now we're seeing Oprah Winfrey, the executive producer, we're seeing the own network, we're seeing your work with creators. David Oyloloya was on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. to direct. When you are creating, when you are helping others to create, you have to take a different position because it's not for you, it's for somebody else. You know, but the most wonderful thing I think that everybody, and

especially if you've been able to be blessed and achieved as much as I have, the great reward and joy comes from being able to lift other people to the highest level of themselves, because that's really what we're all to be to to to to the their their their their their th for their th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi. thr-thea thr-a thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. to be to be to to to to to to, to to to to, to and lift other people to the highest level of themselves, because that's really what we're all looking for. That's what I say in here. That the reason why there is common ground for all of us is because you want the same thing I want. And even in my position in life, I'm still reaching for what is the trueest, highest expression of myself as a human being. Wow. That's the path you're looking for. And when you know that that's what we're all looking for, so my job is, I think I've found

that and I continue to find it by helping other people to find that for themselves. One of the ways you're doing that is by creating a docuse series with Prince Harry about mental, about mental. You can't peel back the curtain, Oprah. Oh, the man's got skills. The man's got skills. One of the things you're doing is talking about mental health. And I love how you call it mental fitness, because that's how we need to think of it as people.

Are we healthy in our minds? You're working with Prince Harry, which is really exciting. I'm going, what is it like to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work to work. Uh, good, that's good. That's good. He got me. He got me. He is a great partner. And I want everybody to know that, first of all, I don't do or engage in anything unless

I'm giving 100%. He feels the same. And so he is a great partner in helping us decide what we're going to interview, how it's going to be interviewed, what subjects we're going to be covering. I've had, you know, meetings with him, we've sat down with our team, and we're working together on this as a real partnership. It's really, it's genuinely exciting. I mean, everything, everything you do blows up.

Well, you know why it's so important to me? This is why it was so important to me. Because I have a girl school, and you know, these girls come from provinces all over South Africa. When you're dealing with people who come from lots of trauma, those, that trauma shows itself in later life, as depression, as anxiety sometimes, as mental health issues. And there was a time where I had five girls in the hospital at the same time with depression, suicidal ideation, all kinds of things.

So I became interested in the subject of mental health because I spent too many times in a psych ward. And because I recognize that the impact of poverty and the impact of trauma in poverty really causes people to carry that into their lives unless it is processed......... their their their their they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they can they their, and their, and their, poverty and the impact of trauma in poverty really causes people to carry that into their lives unless it is processed and unless they can come forward in a way that releases it. So for me doing this mental health series is a way of releasing the shame, helping people to release the shame,

and the stigma for themselves. Because there's almost nobody you know that doesn't have somebody in their family who's going through some kind of difficulty. When you speak about trauma, is that one of the reasons you were so drawn to the Michael Jackson documentary? Because I noticed when you were when you were speaking about that, it felt personal to you, it felt visceral, but you got a lot of hate for doing that? Oh so much hate aration. I haven't had that much. I hateration that that with Ellen. So, you serrish? Yes, and you know what? I was I was saying this the other day that I'm so glad that when I did the puppy episode for Ellen

where Ellen came out and people just imagine had that happened now. Imagine if that had happened now. Right. And you had social media. So I had a lot of hateration. But I also, when I first saw that a documentary, I realized that a lot of people are going to get triggered by watching it. And that a lot of people will not understand what the pattern is, because I had done 217 shows trying to get people to understand,

that it's not about one person, that it is about the pattern. It is about the seduction, and people call it a molestation. But there is a big seducing that goes on, and the pattern of that seducing. And that was important enough for me to take the hateration for. Did did did did did did did did did did did did the, did the, did the, did the th, did th, did th, did the that th, did thi, did thi, did, did, did, did, the, the, their, thi, thi, and then, and then, their, and then, thi, and then, and then, thi, thi, thi, thi, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, that, that, that, that, that, that, and, that, and, that, and, and, and, that, that, and, that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, and that, that, that, the the thin..... they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that's not they. that, that, the of that seducing. And that was important enough for me to take the hateration for. Did you ever waver in your beliefs when the documentary director came out and said there was a timeline issue?

Michael Jackson didn't have the train station. You know, I have not wavered because I've had girls at my school who were sexually assaulted and abused. And I have never won a case. And the reason I have never won a case is because when you put a girl on the witness stand and she can't remember was it Thursday or Wednesday, it's automatically discredited. And so when you're in the midst of trauma, something terrible things happening to you, you may not remember the exact time. It's why, like if I hear a noise or something in my house, look at the time, because they're going to ask what time was it, what the time, oh, or the time, or the time, or the, or the, what, or, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, ti, t, t, the, the, t, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, a noise or something in my house, I'm like, look at the time, because they're going to ask what time was it, oh my god, what time was it? So, if you can't remember the day and the time and the da da da, everybody's like, well, okay.

I guess it never happened. Oh, it was, I said it was that I have to ask that you've answered many times, but I never know if the answer will change. Is Oprah Winfrey running for president? You don't even want that to happen. You don't even want that to happen. You don't even want that to happen. You know, Gail, my dearest friend, I thought she was actually seriously. I think you that you that you that you that you that you that you that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thooo tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toldld told told told told told. told. told. told. the country. I said, you don't want that to happen, because I have such a beautiful life. I have such a beautiful life. Why would I want to put myself in that?

I ask such a beautiful, right? I have such a beautiful life. I know my path, and my path isn't that. But whenever I decide whoever I want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be I will get behind that person. We'll be excited to what it is. Thank you so much for being on the show. The Park Made Clear is available now. Oprah Winfrey everybody. Don't go. This election cycle has already been quite a ride. This election cycle has already been quite a ride. Scared, nauseous, wishing this thing had seatbelts, Pod Save America is here to help.

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and one from that side, one from that side, and one from that side, something you've always wanted to ask. Don't ask to the color is. think for a th you tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, but, tho, but, but, but, but, but, but, tho, tho, but, but, but, but, but, tho, but, tho, but, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to, thooooooooooo, thoooooo, they. thoo, tho, the scenes. We'll just hang out and do it. This is like, it's funny, I didn't know, you talk to your audience. Yes. Yes, this is me, I just hang out with the real people. Isn't that cool? I love it. So, are you kidding me? I love it.

I wanted to know one thing. you. normal random things happen to you? Like does your, when was the last time your phone ran out of battery while you were speaking? Does that ever happen to you? I know. Okay. Like, like never, like so for instance, has there ever been a moment where you're in the bathroom and then the toilet roll is done? No. Oh no. What is the most? No, you know why? Because at my house, in my house, I don't know if this happens at your house, but in my house, when the toilet roll is checked regularly, and when it's been checked, like after you go into the bathroom, yes. Somebody will come in and it's folded into a little triangle. Yes. Yes. It's like folding a triangle every time. Okay. Okay, we'll take one from one from each side. Okay. I will tell you tell you that. tho. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. the the their. their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toy. roll. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. toy. the the toy. tell you though, something's very normal that you wouldn't think. Okay, let's go. I travel with my own, I travel with my own bread and I bring my own avocados. Are you serious? Yes, I do. So I have an avocado orchard, so I think it's ridiculous to pay for avocados.

So I think the story. Oh, the story. I think it's ridiculous to pay for avocados. Which is why you bought your own orchards? Are you kidding me? That is not a normal story. Okay, all right. I made my own avocados because they're too expensive. Yes. Okay, another thing, very normal, very normal. I do not, the one thing I will not do is, is send my underwear out to be washed or cleaned. Wow.

No, that's, okay, that's, yes. My grandmother would love that. Because it's $5 for a pair of panties. That's the reason? Oh, my grandmother, my grandmother would say, like, for instance, you know, when you put the washing in the basket and everything, so everyone in the family, so I would do washing, then my cousin would do everyone would do it and then sometimes I would throw the underwear and then my grandmother would come and then she

be like Trevor you want people to know your secrets you want people watch this yourself no one must know your secrets right let's get we're gonna get our product here so we're gonna get two questions yes right at the top I have a refugee would you ever open a school in the United States. I'm actually thinking about where. And the reason why I called it the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa because even then I was thinking this will just be one, this will be like the satellite school and then I will I will do others. But it's taken me a while

to get it right. It took me about 10 years to actually get it right. So thank you for that question. I'm actually thinking about it. Where to do it? Yes, ma'am. I just wanted to find out for me because I've been mental health trained. Mental health first aid trained. And in my culture, I see people with mental health issues because of trauma and property,

but they won't admit it. Yeah. What's them to realize what they've experienced is actually trauma? We're going to normalize it so. Harry and I are going to normalize it to the point that people will be like, hey, I got mental illness. And that's what you want for it, to call it out to the point where it's no longer such a stigmatized, big deal, it's no longer a taboo that people say they recognize themselves immediately. I will tell you this, that when I, when my girls, some of my girls first came here,

I was talking to one on the phone who, all the girls had said, this girl is depressed, she hasn't come out of her door, blah, blah, blah. And we, on the phone, googled all the symptoms for depression. And this girl, who's now, by the way, they they they they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, thi, thi, who's now, by the way, doing very well, but said to me, I said, so you're every single symptom of depression, you need to get help. And she said, I can't be depressed, I'm African. And Africans don't get depressed. That's, that's a true thing. We have a lot of that. Yeah, I can't be depressed. I'm africed. So I want to erase that. And the way to do it is by talking about it more. So watch the series. All right, so that's it, that's it, but I, like, I have one final question before you go. One of the greatest pressures, in my opinion, of being Oprah, is that everywhere you go,

people are waiting for you to tell them to look under their seats. Yes. Because everyone's waiting for you to give them something. So I want to say, look under your seats, everybody gets a boo! You're all getting a book! You're getting a book! You're getting a book! Everybody's getting a book! Oprah Win for everybody! The one is getting a poll! Thank you. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show. Wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central podcast.

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