The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Pastor vs. Trump, Triumph Storms a Coffee Shop | Talib Kweli

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Ronny Chieng covers Trump’s face-off with a woke pastor, his lukewarm review of church, and a "f**k-it" approach to the Jan. 6 pardons. Troy Iwata investigates if the GOP’s amnesia for ins...urrectionist violence is really a disease. Plus, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog leads anti-Trump march in storming the... coffee shop?Legendary hip-hop artist Talib Kweli sits down with Ronny Chieng to discuss the future of the music industry and his latest album "The Confidence of Knowing." They talk supporting artists outside of streaming, how hip-hop is deeply rooted in social justice, understanding the political divide beyond Democrat vs. Republican, and how tech billionaires profit off our social media engagement.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show. I'm Ronnie Cheung. We got so much to talk about tonight. The proud boys are back in town. Donald Trump faces off against Jesus and we sent triumph to sniff the butt holes of the resistance. So let's get into another edition of the second coming of Donald J. Trump.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It's only day two of Trump's presidency and already everyone is mad at him. I mean, guys, can you give him a minute? Let him sit down. It started in the morning when Trump went to the traditional post-inauguration church service, which is not exactly his preferred way to start the day. It's never fun for him to be a guest at someone else's rally. And to make matters worse, the preacher was kind of preachy. Mr. President, I ask you
Starting point is 00:01:34 to have mercy upon the people in our country. We're scared now. Gay, lesbian, and transgender children and the people. The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings, who labor in poultry farms and meatpacking plants, who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They may not be citizens or have the proper documentation, but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. New executive order.
Starting point is 00:02:12 We are banning church. Hey, Bishop, please, all right? We don't go to church to hear a lecture about having mercy on the less fortunate. That's not what church is for. And Trump was like, I only came here because I heard there were free crackers and now I'm getting roasted by Tig Notaro.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And he was probably looking up at Jesus on the cross and thinking, hey, you and me both, brother. To be fair, I mean, can you imagine going to church and the pastor is only addressing you? Like, this next sermon is about the sinners, the cheaters, the degenerate gamblers, Gary. The point is, no one has ever had a worse time in church than Trump did.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And yes, I've seen spotlight. And you could tell that he had a bad time because of the way he came out of the church super bitchy does that excite you did you like? Watching your president get lectured to by Bishop Rachel Maddow. Get your little liberal d*** card, you sick f***. And is this how we do presidential press conferences now? This is like TMZ at the Departures Hall at LAX. It's like, hey, Mr. President, hey, Mr. President,
Starting point is 00:03:42 what do you think about Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni? But after getting yelled at by this church, Karen, Trump was also getting yelled at by everyone just because he released hundreds of violent insurrectionists back into the streets or something. And yeah, okay, they beat some cops and broke some windows, but they were doing it for him. No one seems to understand that, and the media won't shut up with these unfair gotcha questions. You would agree that it's never acceptable
Starting point is 00:04:12 to assault a police officer, right? So then if I can, among those you pardoned, DJ Rodriguez, he drove a stun gun into the neck of a DC police officer who was abducted by the mob that day. He later confessed on video to the FBI and pleaded guilty for his crimes. Why does he deserve a pardon?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Well, I don't know. Is it a pardon? Because we're looking at commutes and we're looking at pardons. Okay, well, we'll take a look at everything. We'll take a look at everything. Shouldn't you look at it before you issue the pardon? So step one, release the prisoners.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Step two, look into which prisoners we should release. Fucking nailed it. So part one of his answer about this whole Gen 6 thing is, we'll take a look, which is Trump speak for, we will never look at this again. But if that doesn't satisfy you, he has another reason. Okay, well we'll take a look at everything, but I can say this.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Murderers today are not even charged. You have murderers that aren't charged all over. You take a look at what's going on in Philadelphia, take a look at what's going on in LA, where people murder people and they don't get charged. See, some murderers aren't in jail, therefore nobody should be in jail, okay? Also think big picture here,
Starting point is 00:05:34 if he lets these violent criminals go, there's a chance they'll kill the other violent criminals and then they'll just cancel each other out. And to be fair to Trump, he has been campaigning on releasing the Jan six prisoners for years now. Everyone just assumed he didn't mean the violent ones, which would mean going through all the cases one by one, but that's not really Trump's style.
Starting point is 00:05:56 New reporting from Axios this morning details the private back and forth amongst President Trump's team over how many January 6th rioters to pardon. The case by case review was onerous. Trump staffers wondered whom to pardon and who might slip through the cracks. Time was running out heading into Inauguration Day. As Trump's team wrestled with the issue, Trump just said, F it, release them all.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I have never related to Trump more. All right. This PDF is 400 pages? Okay, f**k it, all crime is legal. And look, you can't expect someone to go through all these cases one by one. I mean, the FBI did and the prosecutors did and the judges did and the juries and the paralegals and the person who types on that weird little typewriter
Starting point is 00:06:46 No one else knows how to use but Trump is busy. Okay, it's much easier to just click select all delete So in the very first seven hours of the Trump administration We already have our first big controversy, which of course leads to the classic ritual of a Trump presidency He does something crazy then Republicans get asked about it and they're like, what? I didn't see it. Do you agree with President Trump's decision to pardon these violent people? If they were truly violent, no, but do I know that they were?
Starting point is 00:07:17 I don't know that. Is January 6th pardons? Well, I've said what I've said before, and that is we're not looking backwards. I haven't seen the details, but I think a lot of those parties are definitely well-deserved. What about those who assaulted police officers and then were pardoned by the press? I haven't seen any. I haven't gotten to the detail.
Starting point is 00:07:34 We're talking about people that were beating officers with fire hydrants, with metal batons. Is that acceptable to you? Those people were pardoned. No, it's not acceptable, but I didn't see it. What do you mean you didn't see it? It's on video. I didn't see it. I didn't see it, so. What do you mean you didn't see it? It's on video. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I didn't see it. No, no spoilers, Tommy Tubbleville didn't watch Jan 6th yet, okay? He'll get to it, but there's just so much to watch these days, you know? He's still got 9-11 in Benghazi on his DVR. I mean, you are a senator on Jan 6th. Like, what do you mean you didn't see the insurrection?
Starting point is 00:08:07 You lived it. This is like a Titanic survivor saying, I haven't seen the movie, don't tell me what happened. So to sum up day one of Trump's presidency, church is bad, beating cops is good. So I guess he's a Democrat now. For more on the Republican reaction, we turn to Troy Iwata everybody. Troy. Troy. All these Republicans are pretending they haven't seen
Starting point is 00:08:40 footage of January 6th. I mean, shouldn't they be embarrassed? Ronnie, I know sad and ignorant people like yourself would think Republicans are being cowardly, but they actually have medical conditions that literally make it impossible for them to see the January 6th footage. And unlike you, I'm not an ableist f***. What?
Starting point is 00:09:00 What do you mean ableist? Ron Johnson just said he didn't see the details. He can't see the details, Ronnie. Ron Johnson has a rare disease. You know, face blindness, he has that, but specifically for insurrections. When he sees a cop getting beaten with a flagpole, his brain interprets that as a rainbow
Starting point is 00:09:21 or a baby deer learning to walk. It might seem cute, but it's actually incredibly painful. Okay, I've never heard of that. But what about the rest of them? Does Senator Tuberville also have this face blindness? Okay, watch your tone. No, Tommy Tuberville actually has that disease from memento. Do you remember that movie?
Starting point is 00:09:41 He doesn't. But he forgets about January 6th every three minutes. He's a survivor and it's inspiring. Oh. Okay, so he's not just dumb. Well, if he didn't have memento disease, then yeah, he would absolutely be the dumbest senator in history. But he does have it, so he isn't. I'm doing a walk for the cure next week.
Starting point is 00:10:03 What are you doing to give back, Ronnie? I have a metal straw that I'll remember to use someday. But Troy, come on, they can't all have medical issues with seeing Jan Six footage. They do, okay. Lauren Boebert was hypnotized at a child's birthday party and just never fully recovered. Rick Scott, he couldn't see the footage because he's actually half-horse,
Starting point is 00:10:28 so he always has those, those blinders on. And Tim Burchett couldn't see it because he got kicked in the head by Rick Scott because he walked behind him too quickly and it spooked him. And, um, oh, oh, oh, and John Thune's eyes don't work because he once saw a pretty lady walk by, and they went, boy-oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy Because there's a lot of things coming down the pipeline the next four years that they're not going to be able to see or hear or remember or legislate against or
Starting point is 00:11:10 Understand or consider? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? Okay? I guess I guess I should be Also more respectful of people who can't watch Gen six footage the way you and I have? Oh, I haven't seen the January 6 footage. Well, do you also have one of those diseases? No, no, it just sounded so depressing. I don't need that in my life. Okay, okay. Okay, Troy Watt, everybody.
Starting point is 00:11:35 When we come back, we check in on Tom's opposition, so don't go away. You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it?
Starting point is 00:11:56 You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? You can't see it? event in DC this week there was also the People's March to oppose him. We sent our most dogged reporter to check it out. Here in Washington DC at the People's March we're here with everyone in America who thinks Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski still have good on-screen chemistry. This diverse crowd covers a full spectrum of literally every stage of depression.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Good morning, look at you guys. You guys are mobilized. Yeah. You're energized. Yeah. You're three months too late. Thank you, thank you. If you could just say your name and all your genders from the camera, please. Oh wow, I lost count, I'm sorry. Let's face it, no one here's gonna smash
Starting point is 00:12:42 any windows at the Capitol. That would require upper body strength. You know, eight years ago, in fairness, there were like millions of people here. Do you think the numbers of women participating in this march have dropped off because they don't see themselves represented by the Democrats or because you kept talking to them about Deadpool? Seriously, looking around here, I've never seen so many people worried about losing the right to contraceptives
Starting point is 00:13:11 for purely hypothetical reasons. Tell me, what stage of depression are you currently in? Anger, bargaining, or all the way to wearing that hat in public? So many groups and factions represented here. This person is with People for the Legalization of Medicinal Bat Salts. all the way to wearing that hat in public. So many groups and factions represented here. This person is with People for the Legalization of Medicinal Bath Salts. Correct? The import Trump slash Drumpf.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Drumpf, if you don't know, was the Trump family original name in Germany. Okay, nice to know the bath salts have kicked in. Now honestly, some people are saying that you're all ineffective. You're too weak and unequipped for a crisis. I'm talking to your deodorants right now, actually. Sure, sure. If we want to win next time, we have to build a bigger tent. Sometimes it's just with language, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:04 So if we want to get Republicans, what about if we rebrand climate change as climate transitioning? Okay? Then Republicans will want to stop it. There you go. I can feel Ben Shapiro hedging already. So you're a young person. I feel like the young people need to understand what's going on better. What's your message to young people who only get their news from social media? It's important to organize. Join an organization. Already too complicated. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:14:32 People aren't going to take you seriously wearing pussy hats from 2016. We got to armor up. Show them we don't want to be screwed with right now. Okay. What do you got? Okay. It's time for the pub hat. Put that on. Oh boy, all right.
Starting point is 00:14:47 This is what democracy looks like. Are the pubes organic? Of course they're organic. And they're farm raised. Farm raised organic pubes? Farm raised, yes. We run a no kill pubes farm. Are there genetically modified organisms in the pubes?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Just put the f***ing hat on. Now see, this is for the more discerning? Just put the f***ing hat on! Now see, this is for the more discerning, that's the landing strip you have. Seriously you guys, this marching stuff, it's so analog. This isn't what the Republicans do, you know? Where's your Pepe the Frog? Where's your cat turd? We need our own Pepe. So I call this one, Keith Ober Monkey.
Starting point is 00:15:24 This is another potential mascot, Smuggy, the NPR tote bag. People don't believe facts anymore. They believe conspiracy theories. So we need to make up our own conspiracy theories, okay? For example, Jimmy Carter was doing just fine until Trump got elected again. Coincidence? Who killed Carter? You know how Trump hides his medical records? He also hides his DNA test. That's right. He recently took a DNA test that revealed that he's 40% sour cream.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Release the DNA test! Release the DNA test! Release the DNA test! Trump is ruining people's lives! Trump is ruining people's lives! He goes well with onions and chives! He goes well with onions and chives! What do we want? What do we want?
Starting point is 00:16:19 What do we want? Now! GOP, stop the lies! GOP, stop the lies! GOP, stop the lies! How did Jimmy Carter die? How did Jimmy Carter die? Young man, are you a member of Gen Z? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Okay, did you mean to come to this march or were you staring at your phone on the way to work and when you finally looked up you were here? I came here on purpose. I kid, I kid. I know you don't actually work. Are you guys ready to storm a building? I might be.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Let's be honest, you guys aren't ready to storm the Capitol. No, I'm soft. Yeah, believe me. We're going to start small, OK? Trust me. We need to do something, you know, that's going to get attention. We're going to start small.
Starting point is 00:17:00 OK. OK, are you with me? Yes. OK. Everybody storm with me. Let's go. Let's storm with me let's go come on we're gonna storm let's storm let's go Whose house? Our house! Oh, yes!
Starting point is 00:17:47 Oh, yes! Oh, yes! We're taking back our muffins! America! Today is E-Coffee House, tomorrow Cheesecake Factory! Thank you, Triumph. When we come back to Live Quarly, we'll be joining you on the show, so don't go away. Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
Starting point is 00:18:32 Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a legendary hip-hop artist whose latest album is a legendary hip hop artist whose latest album is a collaboration with J-Rolls
Starting point is 00:18:47 called The Confidence of Knowing. Please welcome the one and only, Brooklyn's own, Tilly Quilley! What a family, baby. How are you? How are you? How are you? Nice to meet you. Hey, Brooklyn, I love you. New York City. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. What's up, Ronnie? How you feeling?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, man of the people, man. Oh, man, I love the people. This is my city. This is my city. Thanks so much. Yeah. Thanks for coming on the show, man. You just came out from Australia.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I did. I was with the Roots, the legendary Roots crew. Yeah. Good time. I was with the Roots. Shout out to the legendary Roots crew. Yeah. And good time. No, that makes sense. I saw a video of Questlove DJing in a pub in Australia. And I was like, what's he doing there? And you guys were on tour doing music. We were.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Those guys are amazing. And I'm happy to share the road with them. Yeah, I used to live in Australia for like 10 years. How was it for you? It was good. Being an American, traveling abroad is very interesting. Oh, yeah? These days, years. How was it for you? It was good. Being an American traveling abroad is very interesting. Oh yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:48 How so? People have a lot of questions. A lot of questions. A lot of questions. Thank you for coming to my show at City Winery. Yeah, of course. Appreciate that. No, I'm a huge fan.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I've been a huge fan. You're not going to come to my show. No, I'm a real fan. I'm like playing it cool right now, but I'm like a huge fan of yours. And I've been following your music. I'm a fan of cool right now, but I'm like a huge fan of yours and I've been following your music. I'm a fan of yours as well. No, no, that's very kind. I feel so embarrassed that you even said that in front of people. But one thing I love, like I listen to albums and you, you know, I think you've been in this game for like 30 years now.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I feel like, correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like most of it you've been kind of like almost pushing it indie style. Yeah most of it. But most of it and I feel like your last few albums, not this one, the latest one Confidence of Knowing is available on Apple and Spotify. That's right. But your last two including Black Star 2 and your album before that, your solo album before that, like you released it on, you released it on, one was on Patreon, one was on Luminary. I was like, as a fan of yours, I knew you released it, but I would have to go and digitally chase all your albums.
Starting point is 00:20:53 It wasn't like I could just press a button and listen to it. And it reminded me of back in the day actually having to chase music down. And it, I mean, quite frankly, it made me appreciate it even more when I did find it, because it made it like kind of difficult To get in a way like is that makes it special. Yeah. Um, why no everybody here is a fan of Joe Rogan and
Starting point is 00:21:14 And I think Joe Rogan is paid millions of dollars by Spotify for people to listen to his podcast But as an artist a musician on Spotify, I get a percentage of a penny for people to listen to his podcast. But as an artist, a musician on Spotify, I get a percentage of a penny. They don't pay any artist that I fire, any music artist an advance like that. So I mean, I think that's- And what's your problem?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Disparity, you know what I'm saying? Disparity, so I mean, streaming is very convenient for the fans, it's not the fans' fault. But if you really wanna support music, you should go to Bandcamp, you should go to fans' website. You can come to my Bandcamp, you can come to Black Star Bandcamp, you can come to QualiClub.com, which is a store where I sell my merch and albums and- Anything but streaming, basically.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Right, right, right, right. I mean, look, go listen on streaming, but then go actually support the artist. Right, right. And, you know, it's a mix, right? A mix of it. Some of it is that people, the music on streaming is so convenient. And so they use that.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And the other part is people don't know. People don't know. They think that listening on Spotify or Apple Music is like helping you, you know? Right. Well, everything is dictated by the algorithm right now. And whether it's what you listen to, what you eat, what you watch on television, even your politics.
Starting point is 00:22:27 So this idea that online interaction is not real, I feel like that's kind of what's helping our current political climate. A lot of people slept on the fact that, particularly the right wing was pushing online and they were saying, you know, don't engage, just ignore that. It's not real.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And it turns out that these billionaires are using their platforms to invest and help push policy and politics. And so it's affecting everything. We're turning into Ready Player One right now. Right. So you're saying your antidote to that is to get off the streaming services?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Um, no, not at all. I mean, I mean, right now, as you can see, I'm on Blue Sky right now. You know what I'm saying? Because as far as I can tell, Blue Sky is the only one that is not bending the knee to Trump. You know what I'm saying? But I mean, you know... Right. Right. There have been great communities built on TikTok, on Meta, on Facebook, on Instagram, even on X.
Starting point is 00:23:29 There have been great communities that have helped people, but at a certain point you gotta really sort of vote with your dollars and vote with your time and energy and all our engagement that we voluntarily give to these people, we're just seeing as numbers to them and we don't even own this content. So you have to really think about where you want to put your time and energy.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Right, as a consumer, as a fan, as a fan of the person. So like, I mean, you've been in this game for like 30 years now. Yeah, and I think it's important to note that I'm an artist that doesn't have a platinum record, but I'm still on a Daily Show 30 years later. And I feel like that, you know... Um... Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I hope that can inspire people who feel overwhelmed by like not getting the props they deserve as artists. Okay, so to get to, yeah, come on The Daily Show. You don't have to be mainstream to be successful. Yeah, well, yeah, no, for sure. I mean, I think there's art that you produce and then there's commercial stuff and they both have their benefits.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Yes. You know, I think what really made me a fan of you was that you kind of, I think you and Mos Def were the first guys to kind of show me hip hop as an art form and not just a consumable thing to dance at, at a nightclub. Shout out to Mos Def, he has a new album with Alchemist. Oh yeah, well no, don't shout him out.
Starting point is 00:24:44 This is you. This is you. This is you right now. Oh, that's my partner. But I guess because you've been here for 30 years now and you've seen what it was like 30 years ago, you've seen what it's like now. So where do you think the future of the music industry is going?
Starting point is 00:24:56 I mean, because it doesn't sound good from what you're saying. I mean, yeah, I think that when it comes to hip hop, too many people think of hip hop as what the corporations are pushing on them. And the hip hop community is way bigger than what you hear on the radio, what you see on videos. The hip hop community is very vast.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Matter of fact, I'm gonna defend the hip hop community more than any genre. I feel like hip hop has more social justice workers, more activists, more people to speak up than any genre, hands down. So even though we're pushed this sort of corporate, greedy, capitalistic, sexist, violent image of hip-hop, when you look at the hip-hop community as a whole,
Starting point is 00:25:33 this is where the artists are becoming activists at. Right. And, uh, but like, I guess I was asking, like, what is the, what do you think, if you're a musician right now and you're just getting started, what would you recommend to them? I would recommend that you stay far away from the music industry, right?
Starting point is 00:25:58 And build industry around yourself. You know what I'm saying? Like make yourself a commodity. Make yourself, not a commodity, but make yourself, make it about yourself and bring in traffic to what you're doing as opposed to sending traffic outside of yourself. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Okay, well, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you've been in the game a long time. You're also such a prominent activist for your community politically. Like, is, I hate to ask you... Oh, let's go, Ronnie. I hate to ask you, like...
Starting point is 00:26:34 I'm here for the questions. I know, but like... They call me Dr. Fumar Johnson. One other smoke. I hate to ask you, like, as a black man, but as a black man, can you explain, like, where this appeal for Trump is coming from or where it's going, you think?
Starting point is 00:26:50 Well, speaking on behalf of the entire black community. Yeah. Because... I'll speak for the Asians and you speak for the... I am king of the blacks, obviously. I think that the way that people feel, this despair they feel, to feel like the system is against them and they can't trust our leaders
Starting point is 00:27:11 and they can't trust the politicians, welcome to how it feels to be black the whole time. We've been feeling like that the whole time. So this is not- Well, this kind of sucks. It does suck. And this is why people, you know, what they say, they say they want the rhythm,
Starting point is 00:27:27 but not the blues. You know what I'm saying? Sure. I will say this. Right now I see a push, you know, people out there like free Luigi. You know what I'm saying? Like I see this push for people to be like eat the rich
Starting point is 00:27:39 and be anti-oligarch and this push to explain class divisions and class warfare and how these billionaire class, they don't care about race. Race is a social construct, of course. It's not even real. But this idea that we have to focus on class above everything. And I want to make sure that we don't erase the marginalized people of color who started this fight for us and often get erased at at this time because the top 90% over
Starting point is 00:28:06 the top 90% is straight white male on purpose. So in America, because America started the idea of, you know, with the Atlantic slave trade, the construct of whiteness being above all, this kind of started with the birth of America because it's baked into America. You can't separate race and class. Years ago, James Carville said, it's the economy, stupid. But now, it's the racism, stupid.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You know what I'm saying? You can't separate everything that they do when it comes to immigration, when it comes to federal workers, when it comes to the economy, is based on white nationalist ideas. This is why Elon Musk is doing Nazi salutes and no one cares.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You know what I'm saying? Or they even try to defend him. Well, I wouldn't say no one cares, but yeah. Not enough people care. This is the radical left-lipped judge. Yeah, we are our own tribe here. But like, well... And I want to add to that is not they're fooling us by making us think it's about Democrat versus Republican.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm not a Democrat. I've never been a Democrat. I voted Democrat before. I've never voted Republican, but I've never identified as a Democrat. This is not about Democrat versus Republican. This is about good versus bad. This is about colonizers versus the colonized. This is about the oligarchs versus the poor
Starting point is 00:29:20 and working class people. It's not about Democrat and Republican. In this country, they change philosophies anyway. Sure, sure. All right, sure. Well, you know, thank you. I just want to say thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for your art.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Thank you for making the world a better place. Thank you. Your music got me through some bad days. And you also was the soundtrack for some of my better days. So thanks so much for making it. I hope you keep making music. Thanks so much, everybody. The confidence of knowing is available now.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Khalid Kuali, everybody. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. OK. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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