The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Pelosi Won't Seek Re-Election | Former President Barack Obama

Episode Date: November 18, 2022

Herschel Walker gives a wild speech about vampires and werewolves, Pelosi will not seek re-election to a House leadership post and former President Barack Obama stops by.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. Coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show. Tonight, President Barack Obama is here. And Barack Obama. And did we mention President Barack Obama? This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for shooting in. And thank you for coming out and questioning everybody. Thank you for

being here. Thank you for being here. Take a seat. We've got a very special show lined up for you tonight. We're all going back to the moon. Republicans are storming the house again, and Herschel Walker gets involved in a fight between werewolves and vampires. Plus, we're being joined by one of my favorite black American presidents, Barack Obama's joining us in the show everybody. So, let's do this people. Let's come straight into today's headlines. All right, people.

I'm going to be honest with all the news happening right now. I don't think we have enough space in today's show. There's just not enough time. And I tried everything. I tried everything. I even tried putting the news in the sauna so it could sweat it out for a little while, but it didn't work. The news just came out glistening and sexiertime. Fortunately, though, not enough time, it's just enough time for a segment we call Ain't nobody got time for that.

All right, let's kick things off with the Moon, aka Ashy Earth. The last time humans set foot on it was 1972, but now we might finally be getting a sequel. NASA going back to the Moon for the first time in five decades, launching the most powerful rocket in the world into space kicking off its high stakes Artemis 1 mission. This is a test flight with test dummies. But if this succeeds, astronauts could do the same in two years. And NASA says that this really opens the door to a whole new world of

space exploration. The long-term goal here is to set up a base on the moon where people can actually live. Yes, unlike crypto, we are actually going to the moon. And before you hate us start saying, oh do we really need to go back to the moon? Yes we do. Of course we do. As Aldrin left his keys up there the dude's been locked out of his house for 53 years. And you know I was thinking wouldn't it be funny if when we got back up there we find out that the original astronauts did a bunch of crazy shit that they didn't tell us about? Like the new astronauts step out and there's a bunch of moon babies that look like Neil Armstrong. You know it's just like daddy you're finally. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi thi's thu- thu- thu- thi thi's thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't th isn't th isn't th isn't th isn't th isn't th isn't th. Wouldn't th th th th th th th th th th thi wouldn't thi wouldn't thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thunneneu-n't thu-n't thu-n't thu thu thu from your trip to get cigarettes. It's like, wait, why are you still babies? Now, as much as I love space travel, and I really do,

my one issue with NASA is, why do they keep using Greek names? Huh? This program is Artemis. The old one was Apollo. Why doesn't NASA update things, you know? Name Rockets off to today's mythical heroes. Everyone we're sending Artemis to the moon. Boring! Everyone we're sending John Wick to the moon. Oh yeah!

Shit's about it goes down! Puh! Poo-poo! Now, if we had more time, we could talk about where the humans should be going anywhere in the universe, given the fact that we can't even get COVID under control down here. Because if we're not careful, we might turn into the conquistadors of the solar system, right? Just be like, is there life on Mars? Uh, there was. But we don't have time to talk about life forms in space

because there are some new life forms coming to Congress. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi just said that she will not seek a leadership position in the midterm elections. With great confidence in our caucus, I will not seek re-election to Democratic leadership in the next Congress. Yes, that's right. It is a new era in Congress. Nancy Pelosi is stepping down, and Republicans have officially won control of the house.

And this time they did it without shitting on the floor. That's growth. That is growth. And you know Kevin McCarthy might be happy right now, you know, that he's he could replace Nancy Pelosi next year speaker of the house but remember, remember, half of his caucus believe in Jewish space lasers that stole the election using Venezuelan mind control so good luck to him controlling them. Yeah he's gonna be trying to get more tax cuts for corporations. Meanwhile, they'll be like, Boo! We want a subpoena hunter Biden's penis. Bring it here!

Put that penis under oath! And you know, Republicans are finally going to learn that being in charge brings its own sets of promises, you know? You've got to, you've got to deliver. You know, you have to deliver on your campaign promises. That's, that's a challenge. And what's the number one issue that they campaigned on? F. to F. Joe Biden. And now that they won, voters will be expecting them to tell F. Joe Biden. They have to do it. They have to do it. They have to go through the steps. They said it, not me. Yeah. They're gonna have to pass a bill to ask him out. They're gonna have to agree, you know, on the restaurant to take him out to.

And then when they take him home, they're gonna have to listen to his stories before he lets them smash. They're gonna see the people, they're gonna tell you about talk more about all the news coming out of America's politics. For instance, we could talk about the Senate moving closer to protecting gay marriage, finally. Or we could talk about Karen Bess becoming LA's first female mayor. Or we could talk about whether the next speaker of the house will be able to beat Nancy Pelosi's high score on the stock market. But we don't have the time for that. Because there's one man who, God forbid, might be joining these people in the Capitol, and

boy, is he going to be bringing the greatest hits. I'm watching this movie called Fright Night, Freight Night or some type of night, but it was about vampires. But I'm going to tell you something that I found out. A were a wilfow the wow the wow the wow wolf th. th. tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi wi tho thi tho tho tho tho tho tho tho th th tho th th th th thi, th thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiii. thiiiiiii. thiiiii. thiii. thi. thi thi th anymore, I want to be a whereaboo. So I'm watching my TV, these kids watching their TV, the guy jumped in front of him with this holy war, threw it on the vampire forehead. He covered his eye. And he took his hand away. He started laughing.

He took the cross. He put it on the vampire forehead. And the elected officials. And right now, that's the reason I'm here. Step aside, Gettysburg Address. America has the new, greatest speech of all time. Because you tell me the last time you heard a speech about vampires, wherewolves, faith politics, and garlic, huh? And I don't know if Herschel Walker should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should should the the the that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that last time you heard a speech about vampires, werewolves, faith politics, and garlic, huh?

And I don't know if Herschel Walker should be a U.S. senator, but he should definitely be elected as America's official movie reviewer. Did you hear that? I want to watch that movie. I don't even know what it was. He should do this for every movie. Y'all seen that little mermaid is black. Thank you, ladies, gentlemen.

Thank you. Now, if only we had more time, we could watch more of Herschel Walker's speech. Or we could talk about how Elon Musk said that he will eventually let someone else run Twitter, which is a genius idea that everyone else had before he took over Twitter. Or we could talk about how this FTX crash could actually bring all of crypto down because of the regulators looking into crypto. Or we could talk about how Congress might be bringing Ticketmaster in for hearings. Because I guess they couldn't get tailets with tickets either.

But we don't have the time for any of that. Because there's someone backstage by the bottom to come up in this show. Welcome to you, to the show. Welcome back to the Danish show. Our guest tonight is here to discuss the inaugural Obama Foundation Democracy Forum and how he's training the next generation of young leaders in the US and around the world. Please welcome the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I should have brought Michelle here. I should have brought Michelle here so that she said this is how I'd like to be greeted when I come home.

But I feel like Michelle's the start now right? Oh absolutely. Mr. President. Welcome to the Daily. It is wonderful to see you. Do you miss your name by the way? Because everyone calls you Mr. President but like I feel like I would like if people call me like Mr. Daly I would miss just been called Trevor Do you miss your name some you know my best friends call me Barack? Okay? Okay. You should call me Mr. President. Oh, I knew. You know, I was welcome. Welcome to the show.

Let's start with I mean the most pressing news the midterms just happened. You know, America voted. the the thoe. the Senate. Many credit you for coming out and pushing out, you know, people to vote. I would love to know two parts to that. You know, number one, do you, do you feel pressure whenever you ask to come out? It's like in the movies when, you know, they need that home and the bases of the park. We might lose everything. Do you feel the pressure? Does it get to you? And second of all, what does it say about the state of the Democratic Party that they always need you to come out and do that before an election?

Look, I think that the reason we did better than expected can be attributed to not me or anything I did, but it has to do with A, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited, we recruited some recruited some recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited some, we recruited someto do with A, we recruited some excellent candidates. You look like at Westmore in Maryland, Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania. You look at our Senate candidates, John Federman and Mark Kelly. They are committed, passionate, down to earth, they connect with people. And so I come in mainly to shine a spotlight on them. So that's point number one. And the second thing that happened in this midterm, and we've seen it now for three elections, so I'm starting to feel pretty hopeful that this is a habit.

Young people are voting. And you've got higher... It has been many times remarked how I got thumped during midterms during my presidency. And part of it was that voting rates were really low. People... In some sense, I think a lot of Democrats felt, all right, Obama's there, we'll be okay. And, you know, if it turns out that McConnell and Boehner and others suddenly have power,

then that greatly restricts what a president can do. And I think that lesson was learned. Trump comes in and suddenly 2018, 2020, and now this one. You've seen young people come in, and they're typically voting at a rate of 70 to 30, 60 to 40 Democrat to Republican. And that makes a huge difference. And so their enthusiasm, I think, is what really drove this election. I agree with that in terms of the people who actually voted, but young people don't seem

to be turning out as much, you know, so the ones who did vote voted overwhelmingly Democrat. But then the number of young voters seems to be dwindling from election to election. And many young voters are saying they feel disillusion, they feel like America hasn't made away for them. They don't see a future for themselves. Well, look, what is always true is young people are going to vote at slightly lower rates than old people like me. Because they've got better things to do. Michelle and I are sitting at home, you know, eating dinner, we've kind of run out of things to say. Well, let's go vote. Young people, Malie and S, they are are are they are they are they are they are they are they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they of things to say. Well, let's go vote.

Young people, Malian Sasha, they're out. They got all kinds of stuff. So that's always going to be the case, that young people's voting rates are a little bit lower. They are higher now than they were in the midterms when I was president. And in such a polarized environment, one, two, three percent, if they're turning out at 21 percent instead of 18 percent,

that can make an enormous difference. Right. When you look at that tiny difference, you still see the places where, I mean, people got into power, despite the fact that they deny elections. I think Republicans got 170 election deniers into Congress. People who don't believe in the way America is running its elections, people who don't believe Joe Biden should be president, or they, you know, they'll be vague about their answers. What do you think it says about American democracy that so many people are getting elected

to these positions when they seem to dismiss the election itself. Well, the interesting thing is you notice election deniers don't deny their own election. Funny how that works. How many of them actually believe that some of the nonsense that circulates versus those who think it's convenient or it's a way to who think it's convenient or it's a way to own the LIBs or it's a way to send a message or align themselves with Trump that's hard to say but what is important is that because of some really concerted efforts in a lot of important states some of the most egregious prominent and potentially dangerous election deniers, they

got thumped. They got beat. And particularly in the Secretary of State's races and in some cases governor's races where in the next presidential election you could have somebody who could really do some damage. There, I think we held the line. Now, what it does say more broadly is the fact that not just here in the United States, but around the world, the fundamental precepts of democracy are being challenged.

Right. We're not having arguments about policy, but we're having arguments about the rules of the game, which previously we all agreed to, right? There was a notion that, uh, that, uh, that, thr-uh, not thi thi that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not that, not tho-tha thi that, not just tho-tha tho, not just, not just, not just, not just th th rules of the game, which previously we all agreed to, right? There was a notion that, all right, we run elections, whoever gets the most boats actually wins, the loser concedes, goes back and tries to do better next time. And what we've seen now for a whole host of reasons is a creeping sense that if the outcome's not what we want, then we can do whatever we want and say whatever we want in order for us to win. And that is profoundly dangerous. And as I said, it's not unique to the United States, but when it happens in the United States, it sends a signal all around the world

that weakens democracy. And that's why I think us getting our house in order is so important. When you look at the discourse in the country as well, and around the world, but again, I think you're correct in that America is a leader in what's happening right now, the discourse has become so toxic.

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Where do you think it's the tenor people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people of peno the the the of of political of political of political of political of political of political of political of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of politicians of po po po poe of poe And I wonder what you make of that. Where do you think it's coming from? Do you think it's social media? Do you think it's the ten of politicians and the capital? Two things. The biggest change that's taken place, when I ran for, let's say, U.S. Senate in Illinois, you go down state, that's the South. I mean, it's rural, it's conservative.

There aren't a lot a lot a lot a lot a lot thofofofo folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks like you or me. And certainly there are more trevers than there are barrocks in these areas. But, and, and I'm driving around. I've got, you know, a map for young people here, it's this paper thing. You can't figure out how to fold it back, but it's how you find your way on roads. But I'd go into a town and it'd be 70% Republican, a lot of evangelicals, etc. But I could go to a diner or a VFW hall or a county fair. I could go to the local newspaper and the owner there is conservative and he's got a bow tie and buzz cut. He's kind of skeptical about my ideas, but there wasn't the filter that had been created by Fox News or the media

infrastructure, the sort of right-wing conspiracy theory, folks. And so they came at me with an open mind, and I could listen to them and they could listen to me. At the end of the day, they might say, well, he's a little liberal for our taste, but we have something in common. He talked about, you know, his mom getting sick. I remember my mom getting sick. You know, it seems like he loves his kids.

I love my kids. There was some sense of connection. And I think the filter now has become so thick. It started, I think, with Fox News and some of the other, you know, traditional media. And now with social media that's gotten turbocharged. to, you. th. th. th. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's, it. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, I, I', I' thi. It's, I' thi. It's their, thi. It's, I'. It's, I'. It's, I'. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. It's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I. I, I, I. I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I. the of the other traditional media, and now with social media that's gotten turbocharged. If you go into those same communities now, they have so many preconceptions about what somebody like me believes, cares about, et cetera, that it's very hard to penetrate. So I think the answer is both thinking about information flow and

media and how can we break through that information bubble that people are in. That requires, by the way, progressives to get out of their media bubble because we've got some preconceptions that I think create barriers as well. And then working a lot more locally, because you notice that when you're on the ground doing stuff, it's harder to stereotype people. And the nationalization of our politics, I think, has been damaging. The more we can focus on grassroots efforts, real world, rather than just virtual meetings,

conversations, that's what, over time, I think, can help strengthen democracy. And that's part of what our emphasis has been at the foundation is with young leaders who are working on the ground, coming up with new ideas to create those connections. Well, I definitely want to speak to you about that. I want to speak to you about democracy worldwide. I want to speak to you about disinformation and what we can do to immunize ourselves from it. But we've got to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this with more from President Barack Obama. Very good. Thank you. Welcome back to the Daily Show. We are still here with President Barack Obama chatting democracy, disinformation, and who

is better looking between us. I won. Let's start with... Let's... You know, the real question is how will he look when he's 60? You know, I mean, everybody's attractive when they're in the 20 and 30. You know, I'm almost 40, sir. There's no feet. Almost. Yeah, almost. Almost. That doesn't count.

Let's, let's talk a little bit. Let's talk about, I plan to, let's talk about your foundation. Let's talk about what you're to let's talk about your foundation. Let's talk about what you're doing. We see you out there, you know, we see you talking about democracy. The world isn't a really interesting place in that, you know, a few years ago, I think the world was like 49, 50% of the world was, you know, you could say the countries were democratic, you know, they had elections, people won those elections, the the elections, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, tho, tho, th th th th thi, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, their, their, their, and, their, and, ta.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a, ta, ta, t, they had they had elections people won those elections there was a exchange of power etc And now I think 70% of the world is living in a state where they either ruled where it's a complete Autocracy or it isn't a democracy Two things again one. Why do you think the world has gotten there? You know if if democracy and freedom? Are things that everybody wishes to have? Why does it seem like the world is moving away from that? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? th? the? the? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? th, th. th. th. thi? the world? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? the world? their. their. thi. thi. their. thi. their. their. their. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their. thethings that everybody wishes to have, why does it seem like

the world is moving away from that? And then secondly, what can we do or why should we then try to get back to this democracy? If you look at the trend lines, there are a bunch of factors, I think. Globalization, the global economy, disrupted a lot of traditional societies. What do you mean they're disrupted? Well, you know, the global supply chain eliminates industries, eliminates jobs. Got it.

Increases, you know, the wealth gap. Not only between countries, but within countries, right? So, and then modernity challenges people's traditional notions of religion and family and gender roles. And you've got these culture clashes, right? You're in some village in Yemen and suddenly your kid has a phone and it's looking at the Kardashians and, right? And you're, so, so you get this vertigo.

And what happened, what you've seen happen, I think, in a whole bunch of places, is essentially a pushback, a backlash to change that is happening too fast for their comfort. And when people are pushing back against change, then they're vulnerable to politicians who say, you know what, I can make things just like it was back then. When you were feeling more important, you had higher status, you know, you didn't have people who don't look like you suggesting somehow that, you know, you're doing something wrong, that you're doing something wrong, that somehow your traditions are flawed. And that appeal usually also involves saying,

the problems you're feeling are somebody else's fault. It's those folks there. It's immigrants, it's gays, it's Hindus, it's Muslims, it's so forth and so on. And that then gets turbocharged with the information issues that we talked about. And look, democracy requires, by definition, getting along with people who don't agree with you.

And the other thing that happens is these countries are becoming less homogeneous, right? And so you just had a right-wing party in Sweden, which we always used to, Swedes, right? They're, oh, they're so chill and democratic, right? But, but, if you've got a whole, their, their, uh, and that-uh. their, thi, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and the other, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the other, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, th-uh, the other, the, the other, thii. And, the other, thi used to, Swedes, right? They're, oh, they're so chill and democratic, right? But if you've got a whole bunch of immigrants coming in, suddenly people start getting nervous. And so part of what I think we have to do is to stand fast on the principles of equality and self-governance and representation and everybody gets a seat at the table. But I think we have to also find a language and a story, a way of telling the story about how we can get together that does not threaten people who are uncomfortable with change as much.

And and that's, you know, going people who are uncomfortable would change as much. And that's going to be different for different countries. But I'll give you an example. There's a young leader who we worked with from Slovenia. She's part of our network, who was an advocate for doing something about domestic violence. The laws of that country didn't have domestic violence. It was a real problem. Ran a referendum, it got crushed. And we worked with her and suggested, well maybe you want to talk

to the people who didn't vote for it. So she goes out to these rural villages with these older, traditional, rural, very religious, very conservative women, and just interview them and listen to them and them and talk to them.. them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them them the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their.a.a.a. their their their their.a.a.a.a.a. their their their their tea.a.a.a.a.a.a.ruuu.ru.r.r.r. their their their their their and just interviewed them and listen to them and talk to them. And it's not that they agreed with domestic abuse, it's that they thought their way of life was being challenged. Right. She adapted their language, ran the referendum again a few years later, and it passed, right? Because she adopted the language that made them feel as if, okay, this is not so much of a earthquake, a huge change in how we live, but it's rather affirming our best values. And I

think us finding ways to do that in a consistent way will help. But it's hard. Yeah, look, for most of human history, democracy is a relatively recent vintage. It's a blip, you know, tribe, nation state, race, sect. That's typically been how we organize things, and it's always easy to say us versus them. That's the easy politics. What democracy demands is always a little bit more difficult. It also feels like, you know, when you observe it.

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Do you, is there a way to combat that? Because it is a feeling a lot of of, tolerant Democrat, and I don't mean small D Democrat, I don't mean Democratic Party, you know, you can't be a wuss. I mean, you've got to have a story with some swag. You've got to be able to sell the future and deliver. And also call out the fact that what those folks say they're going to do, they almost never do. Right? Because the truth of the matter is that when you look at... We have experiments, those countries that have the ability to

harness everyone, and everybody participates and there's consent and people feel like, all this is working for us, versus places that are failed states, you know, the track record of democracy is pretty good. But we have to be forceful in making our argument. And what is true is that we can't just talk, we've got to walk to walk, which is why we're having a form in New York. One of the topics that we're talking about is inclusive capitalism. People are, when you think about, let's say here in the United States, there's greater appeal of right-wing populism in a lot of communities, rural communities, that they're not wrong

that the economy, the global economy has shifted away from them to urban centers, even in their own states. And so the opportunities in Austin, Texas are different than in a rural community in East Texas. And people notice that. So we have to spend some time thinking about how are we delivering on behalf of people whose lives, who used to work in a factory, who used to farm for a living,

and have dignity and worth and stability and security in those lives and now suddenly they don't feel as if they've got the lottery ticket in this existing economy. That does have to be addressed and in places like Africa, you know, right now you have, let's say China coming in heavy presence in a lot of these countries, providing a lot of foreign aid, a lot of strings attached, a lot of Chinese workers coming in to build big buildings.

Right, them owning the ports, et cetera. But if we're not there, if we're not helping build that road, if we're not there to build that port, then naturally, people are going to start thinking, well, maybe that's a, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's a that's, thatto build that port, then naturally people are going to start thinking, well maybe that's a recipe for bettering my life, as opposed to some flowery language but has nothing behind it. Right. Right. I wonder though, do you think inclusive capitalism is somewhat of a paradox? You know, it feels like, you think it's possible. It feels like, I mean, capitalism is designed to extract as much wealth as possible from every single interaction that it can.

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All right, see you. See you, see, Schman. You know, you got to pay for it, right? Then the guy, the cash registers check and did I make a profit here today? Right, but the reason I'm asking that is because, and maybe it's the words that fail there sometimes, I often, you know, I'll talk to my friends about this, I go, it's interesting that we sort of stopped. We went, oh, there's socialism, there's this, there's the communism, there's this, there not something we could be moving to two words? Maybe I should be asking, what is inclusive capitalism? The reason I just used, let's say a Denmark as an example, is not because it's going

to work perfectly in India, the United States, etc. The point though is, is they've got some blend, some mix. Right. There is an advantage in terms of efficiency and also freedom to a market system. You have a control system, you know, some guy in an office is deciding how many potatoes we're going to grow this year, that usually doesn't work. The flip side of it is that what we've also learned is that if some guy in a boardroom is deciding I'm going to ravage the environment to do whatever I want, that doesn't work either.

Right. So we're going to have a blend of some sort. We want some collective decision making about the social good. And we want something that's efficient and dynamic and allows us to exercise our innovation and freedom. And we don't need to worry so much about the labels as we do about being practical and thinking about what's working and what isn't. And this is going back to the information issues.

This is part of why, to me, one of the biggest challenges of democracy is not just the mechanics of elections or the independent judiciary. Those things are all important, but this is why this information and media issue is so important because what we've seen here in the United States and elsewhere is a abandonment of a commitment to facts and reason and logic and you know stuff that Is useful And and and some say necessary necessary And if we can't have a debate based on facts then we can't get to

Better solutions right we start talking in slogans and nonsense and there's no reality check. We just make stuff up. I didn't lose an election, you know, there's something broken over there. And it doesn't, and it's impervious effects. So part of what I think, why I've been spending a lot of time thinking about this, this information issue is how do we, and how we teach our kids in either industry standards or and or regulation of these social media platforms, how do we get back to the point where you can have opinions, we all do. But facts matter and proof matters and our capacity to debate and say

you know what if we do things this way it might work better and then you may disagree but at least we under we agree to a set of rules whereby we can arrive at a better solution. Do you think it's possible to get to that place when almost half, let's just talk about the United States, where almost half the country says, well what are those rules and why are you even deciding them and why are we having this conversation? You are not even a fact. How do you, I honestly mean how do you get to that place with people? Where you can agree with the interesting thing is even thi places that are just inundated with what I consider to be nonsense and

lies and distortions. When people operate in their own lives, they're still operating on facts, right? On their jobs, when they're coaching their kids, little league or their soccer game or football game, they don't let the ref just kind of say, ah, you know what? This time we're just going to get five points for the touchdown. It's like, wait, wait, folks on the sideline say, nope. It's six points for the touchdown and then you get the extra point. So we abide by all kinds of facts in our own lives.

It's just this national story that is being told where we allow lies to be told and we accept them mainly because it turns out that when we tell a story about the other side it makes us feel better. It's like, ah, you know, Trevor, he's a jackass. You should see. And, and it has to be me who's a big sign for that. You happen to be sitting here. And, I. And, I. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, and, uh, and, and, uh, and, uh, the the the the their, their, their, to be to be their, to be, their, their, to be, to be, to to to th, th, th. th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the their, their, their, their, their, the their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to see. I don't know why it has to be me. You happen to be sitting here. And so we enjoy the performative aspects of making stuff up. And part of that is because we don't think there are consequences to it. Now, what we learned from the election of my successor, from the pandemic, from the insurrection is actually the stories we tell do matter. And having some baseline of sticking to the truth when you're telling stories about our country, about policy,

but also about the other side, that matters. And I like to think that part of what happened in this election is people said, okay, you know what, some of this stuff's getting a little too crazy. It turns out that there is a, you know, a majority of country that does prefer normal, not crazy. And that's a basis for hope. I talk to you for hours about this. I know you don't have the time. It has been wonderful having you here, though.

It's also been wonderful seeing what you're getting up to. Because after you, you know, I had the pleasure of interviewing you at the White House just before you left. And then. Because after you, you know, I had the pleasure of interviewing you at the White House just before you left and then afterwards I saw you kite surfing and I loved it, I loved it by the way. Great technique, but I often wonders, like, you know, what is Mr. President going to do next? And you know, you started producing shows about issues around the world and now you've got this forum. I wondered if maybe, you know, you have any tips for me as, you know, because, because you and I, like, we're basically the same, you know, we're basically the same.

You know, it's, you know, I think, um, I think you're going to have to really focus on re-learning things, like driving, pressing your own elevator buttons. I think you have very different ideas of what my job is and what your job is. What was the last time you're at the dry cleaners? I was actually on 53rd Street. That's like I go, I take it myself. Yeah, we have very, you, you, like you're very like, you know, that's like, like I said, you missed the president forever. You have secret service forever.

That's correct, right? I do. And it, uh, I barely get to keep my hoodies after this. I, I, I, I, I still am in a bubble. I thought I could escape it. I thought i could escape it quick stories since we're in new york i used to say all you know what once i get out of here i'm gonna just be able to like walk through central park and it's gonna be fine and michael's all like yeah okay good luck with that and the first time i tried it i got like half a block.

And then suddenly there was this swarm and there's phones and traffic stopping and it didn't work. So, um, so, so, you know, uh, I guess what I would though, is that you will be missed here. But, um, thank you. And, uh, but, but, but we were talking backstage, uh, you're already following one piece of advice that I would have is, leave when your poll numbers are high. You know? That's how they'll remember you. So. I'm actually, yeah, I'm excited.

I'm going to, you know, I'm going to go on the road. I mean, I've said this to you before. Yeah. You know what, it's the White House Correspondent's dinner. You're a very funny guy. So you want me to open for you? I got some show you in Chicago. It doesn't, you know what, not even open. I wouldn't dare. We could co- you know, you can't open for me. You're the, you're still Mr. President. Bantz, we'll just do like, you know, you know,

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