The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Project 2025 Leaks Reveal Trump Connection | Mark Duplass

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

Desi Lydic watches the leaked Project 2025 training videos and discovers the secret right-wing plan for transforming government, undoing climate rules, and eliminating all pronouns from the English la...nguage. Plus, the people who made them are a little weird and have close ties to Donald Trump, despite his denials. Grace Kuhlenschmidt explores the drawbacks of having a gerontocracy by chatting with UC Irvine neuropolitics researcher Mark Fisher and visits Congressman Maxwell Frost for a younger politician’s perspective. Also, actor, writer, producer, and director Mark Duplass talks to Desi about his second Emmy nomination for his role on the Apple TV+ series “The Morning Show."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:09 and Dan Fifer break down the political news that makes you laugh, cry, and scream into the subscribe to Pod Save America on your favorite podcast platform now. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with your host Desi Lighting. We've got so much to talk about tonight. Donald Trump says he doesn't know all the people he knows. There's a new season of Project 2025,
Starting point is 00:02:11 and did you know that politicians don't have to be a thousand years old? Let's kick things off with about Donald Trump, it said he's not a policy guy. He's more of a boobs guy or a she'll have a salad guy or a babe I swear I have a latex allergy guy. Definitely not a policy guy. So last year, the Heritage Foundation put out a policy for him. It's called Project 2025, and everyone's talking about it. It's really having a brat summer. It's essentially a blueprint for transforming the government from a neutral bureaucracy to a conservative death star.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And I'm going to be honest. It's very upsetting, but the most upseted was Donald Trump. Well on truth Social Trump wrote, I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who's behind it. They come up with this, I don't know what the hell it is, it's Project 25. I don't know anything about it. I don't want to know anything about it. Okay now I'm suspicious because the last time Trump said I don't know anything about that he was talking about Stormy Daniels. So did Trump f-fee-project 2025? Trump has consistently said he doesn't know anything about Project 2025, but that might
Starting point is 00:03:48 be hard to believe after this. This week we got new evidence of the connections between Trump and Project 2025. Reporters for documented and pro-publica obtained 14 hours worth of private training videos from the group and many of the people in the videos have worked for Donald Trump and remain close to him. Hello, my name is Jeff Small. I was a presidential appointee in the Trump administration. I am a former political appointee in the Donald J. Trump administration. I served in the Trump administration. It was on the Trump campaign team early on. You stayed until the final hour. Yes. During the Trump
Starting point is 00:04:25 administration I served as the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the Department of Homeland Security. Are you sure that you were at the Department of Homeland Security and not the guy they brought in to throw holy water on Giuliani. Did you say you're a Trump staffer, but you look like the last thing of Russian czar sees before he's thrown into the back of a carriage? So this guy worked in the Trump administration. Can you imagine how often Mike Pence tried to confess to him? Father, today I saw a pair and their their tha' tha'ar.......... th. th. th. th. the guy that' the guy the guy the guy the guy that' the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy the guy this guy worked in the Trump administration. Can you imagine how often Mike Pence tried to confess to him? Father, today I saw a pair and had impure thoughts.
Starting point is 00:05:13 The point is, 29 out of 36 speakers in these videos worked for Trump. There is no way he doesn't know who they are. You think he wouldn't remember meeting a guy who looks like ZZ Top joined a monastery? Anyone would remember meeting this guy. You're telling me he's got a nickname for Joe Biden, but not Libertarian Gandalf? Come on, I don't think so. Look, I want to get to the videos themselves.
Starting point is 00:05:38 These are internal training videos for people who want to join a new Trump government in the hopes of someday being kicked off dancing with the stars. But they won't just hire anyone. If you've been convicted of a crime, you will not be serving in the federal government. Crimes such as fraud, embezzlement and tax evasion, show a lack of moral character. Yeah, we'd hate to have fraudsters and tax evaders work for the Trump administration. Go on. To obtain employment and government, it is not favorable if you have accumulated debt and file for bankruptcy. Go on. To obtain employment and government, it is not favorable if you have accumulated debt
Starting point is 00:06:25 and file for bankruptcy. You might want to run this up the chain to the boss because it's starting to feel personal. No tax evasion, no bankruptcies, no weird hairstyles, no one who had a cameo and home alone to. And definitely, definitely nobody who constantly brings up Hannibal Lecter like it's a real person. But hiring standards aside, these videos also delve into Project 2025's agenda and policies. And for a party that's recently been fighting back against allegations that they're weird,
Starting point is 00:07:01 this won't help. Hi, I'm Katie Sullivan, and just a normal American woman. Hi, I'm just a normal American woman. Are you sure? Because now that you said it, I'm wondering. Hi, I'm just a normal American woman wearing normal's skin as we normal women do. Okay, you were being normal? And just a normal American woman. But to the left, that makes me a cis-gendered, ethno-imperialist birthing person with pronouns, she, her.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Oh my god. Oh my God. Is every sentence going to be like this? I'm sitting in a chair, or as the left would call it, a quad leg-abled, up-cycled, non-binary wood-based, booty ally. Oh, tho-lo'lip. Oh, thrown.
Starting point is 00:07:59 OK, got it. She doesn't have pronouns, but that's all culture war stuff. What about something less personal and more policy like climate change? And remember, don't make it weird. Climate change allegedly is everywhere. This is an issue to pay attention to as it has infiltrated every part of the federal government. Now when I think of climate change I immediately think of population control don't you? No, no I don't think of population control when I think of climate change you weirdo. I think of forest fires and smoky bear in his tight little bear and a ti bear bod like a normal
Starting point is 00:08:45 American woman. So what makes these videos clear is that Project 2025 plans to remake the entire federal government into an organ of the conservative movement. But because they know how unpopular that is, they're also teaching the recruits how to keep it a secret. What you probably want to do is if you need to resolve something, you're probably better off going down to the canteen, getting a cup of coffee, talking it through and making the decision as opposed to sending him an email and creating a thread that accountable. the US or one of those other groups is going to come back and seek and you're going to have to explain why you're withholding it and you're going to fight in court, it's going to be a lot of expense. It's an email that's better resolved with a meeting.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, yeah, gotcha. No paper trail. You're recording this, right? Sound, audio, we're rolling. Good. Good. By the way, this video might actually bring Project 2, to a too, to, to, to, to, too, too, to a, to, too, to a, too, too, too, too, too, to too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, to me. And, to me. And, to me. And, to me. And, to me. And, to me. And, to me... And, the the the the the the the the the the the the the th... the th. too, the the the too, the the too, the the too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, th., too,ching halt because I don't care how badly you want to ban abortion. If you have to physically meet someone for coffee to do that, ugh, fuck that. No, no, let him have their rights.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Let him have it. Now again, there are 23 of these videos, and we're not going to show them all to you, but there is one more that we found exclusively, and it was made for one particular government employee. Hi President Trump, I'm Benson Winchester the fourth, director of Project 2025. I'm introducing myself because obviously we've never met. You might be asking yourself, what's my role in Project 2025? And I'm here to tell you that as president, your role is not to worry about it. On the day you take your oath of office, Project 2025 will get right to work,
Starting point is 00:10:26 so you can go back to the golf course. Yeah, you might hear some noise from the White House basement while we install the IVF prisons in migrant fight pits, but don't worry, because we're also installing a new pinball machine in the oval office. Oh, Elvira, wouldn't mind pinball on that. Bing, ming, ming, ming. While you have fun at state dinners and pardoning turkeys, we'll get to work demolishing the Department of Education, the EPA, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
Starting point is 00:10:54 The what? Don't worry your pretty little head about it. Just sign on a few dotted lines and then it's time for some TV. Oh, Sean Hannity? I wouldn't th won won wouldn't th won wouldn't th won wouldn't th won wouldn't th won wouldn't th won wouldn't mind pinball on that. Sping, bing, sping, sping. Whing! Now, you might have heard a ridiculous rumor that our plan calls for banning pornography. Well, rest assured, this will not apply to you. In fact, as part of our plan, we're going to give all the porn that we confiscate to you. Enjoy, big guy. That about wraps it up. If you have any questions, don't thaa Just know that Project 2025 is the future of America. Isn't that right, Alexi? It is a future that can't be stopped. A future of blood and sword. A nation stripped of its decadence while its people run screaming to their doom. Their children onto seven generations, cursing our names and the dark Messiah,, that brought about this glorious ecstasy.
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Starting point is 00:13:16 Tommy Vitor, break down the political news that makes you laugh, cry and scream in the toe. top-in, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. the. thi. Se. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Se. Se. Se. Se. Se. Se. Se. Se. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. th. S. S. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. th and what each of us can do about it. POD Save America, the context you need for next week's news when you won't be burdened by what has been. Listen and subscribe to POD Save America on your favorite podcast platform now. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Like any late night show, we love the 18 to 35 demographic. You guys rock. Turn off your ad blockers. You're missing a lot of great stuff. But did you know that there are some people who are older than that? And a lot of those people run the country. It's called gerontocracy, and Grace Fool and Schmidt found out more. America's democracy may not be the strongest, but at least it's the oldest.
Starting point is 00:14:09 There seems to be some sort of gerontocracy. We have the oldest leaders among rich countries. And we love all of them. Joe Biden, Donald Trump, this guy. But are there drawbacks to having our leadership with one foot in heaven? I spoke to Mark Fisher, NeuroPolitics Researcher at UC Irvine. We know that brain function tends to deteriorate with aging. One of the first to go of all the cognitive functions is called executive function.
Starting point is 00:14:37 It's decision making. And what can be more important for a political leader than decision making? What am I going to have for freaking lunch? I'm President of the United States. What the heck am I going to have for lunch? That's a hard decision, and I hope that I have a burger for lunch. I guess I've had this freaky misconception that old people are wiser and smarter than me. And it feels like what you're telling me is that that's not true and I should never trust them. Oh I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I think that the experience that when gains over the course of a lifetime extraordinarily important but there are some measurable cognitive functions that do begin to decline over the age of 60. So even though you have more experiences you are still getting dumber. I'm a dumber a neurologist. Dumb is not a word that we use. Okay, all right. I'll say it then, don't worry. So having a bunch of old brains in charge might be a bit of a problem, but this wise old neurologist actually has a solution.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Our neuropolitics center, we came out with a recommendation that cognitive testing should be done on all politicians, not just older politicians, all politicians. Woman, man, camera TV. Unsurprisingly, Trump says he aced his cognitive test already. If you get it in order, you get extra points. An individual is given a number of things to remember and then after a period of time, three to five minutes, they're asked to repeat that. I mean, Those aren't hard things to remember, right, right, right, right, to, to, right, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to to to their. their, their, their, their, to their, to their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their. their, their. their. their, their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, woman, woman, woman, woman, woman, together, together, their, thethree to five minutes, they're asked to repeat that. I mean, those aren't hard things to remember, right? Person, mom, dad. It's only one part of the exam.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, thank God. And by itself, it doesn't determine a whole lot. No. You have to look at someone's personality. I mean, I have a really good personality. Absolutely. But that's not really, that's really not assessed and autognivist. Doesn't need to be. Without seeing his test results, we can only guess how well or not well, Trump's brain is doing.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I'm leading by a lot, including Obama. I'll tell you what. But it did make me curious. Could my brain be president? My name, Grace. My date of birth, June 30th, 1995. This first part of the exam, this isn't scored. So this is just identification material. Okay, God, I would like to be scored on those two, actually, if possible, because I think I got them right. Do you have more difficulties doing everyday activities due to thinking problems? No, I have almost nothing to do on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:17:06 At the bottom of the very last page, right, I have finished on the blank line provided. So this is a test of delayed recall. Got it. This one is so easy. Can I call my mom to just double check? Last question. In the course of just a few pages, we've covered many cognitive domains. Sir. Did I pass? Let's hear it, brother. Come on. Come on. You got it.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Woo! Let's go! Now, if only someone could go to Washington and get our elected leaders to take this test. Okay, fine, I'll do it. Hello. Hey, how you doing? Good to see you. You too, my name's Grace. I'm Maxwell. I'm looking for a congressperson.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Well, I am a congressman. So who does like your Botox or your work? You look incredible. I appreciate it. I'm actually 27. Yes, most junior congressperson Maxwell Frost is the only person who would talk to me for this story. So how would you feel about having a cognitive test required for politicians? I don't think we should have that. Um, okay, why not? You worried you'd fail, dude?
Starting point is 00:18:20 What is a cognitive test? For example, I could show you one. Yeah. What are th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi? thi, I? thi? thi? thi, I thi? thi? thi? thi? tho, I thi? thi? I thi-I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thiolololome? I thiolome? thiolome? thiol, I thi. thi? thi. thi. thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi?, I could show you one. Yeah. What are these? A rhino and a harp. Congratulations, sir. You get to keep your position. They told me that if you screwed this up, that this office would be mine.
Starting point is 00:18:43 I'll be honest. I said to think for like just two seconds about what animal that was. Yeah, of course. In this baby politicians' view, the issue with politics isn't old brains. It's the lack of young ones. I do think it's an issue that, yeah, young people are as a representative. I don't think we should like young people running the country. So you're not ageist? I'm not an ageist. When do you feel like you would retire? I don't know when I would retire, but I do think we need
Starting point is 00:19:08 term limits. Do you think if you stay in Congress for 34 years, you'll be able to bring Congress to term limits? Because of how this place works? Maybe, but my hope is we'll have it way before that. So it's not hopeless. We just need our young young young young young young young young young young be able to change the system, however long it takes. You know what? I think I'll vote for you. You can't. Why? No. Because I live in Orlando. I represent Orlando. If you move to Orlando, I could go on a paid business trip to Disney World and leave my vote there. Yeah, yeah. That's illegal true. Yeah, yeah, that's illegal too. That's th th th th th th th that's th that's th that's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. That's illegal. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the to be th. to be to be to be to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I th. I th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I th. I the. I the. the. the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I the. I'll to the. I'll to to to to to's illegal too. Thank you, great. When we come back, Mark DuPlaut will be joining me on the show, Sodoko Away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter.
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Starting point is 00:21:09 and each week me and my co-hosts, John Favreau, Tommy Vitor, and break down the political news that makes you laugh, cry, and scream into the void to help you figure out what matters and what each of us can do about it. Pod Save America. the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th is is is is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. t. ta. ta. togea. togea. toge. toge. toge. toge. toda. toda. toda. the. th you won't be burdened by what has been. Listen and subscribe to Pod Save America on your favorite podcast platform now. Welcome back to the Day of the So My guest tonight is an Apple who is currently nominated for an Emmy for his work on the Apple TV Plus series The Morning Show. Please welcome Mark DuPla! Yeah, there's a big time. Yeah, there they go. They love you.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Oh man. How much did you pay for that? That was. Not a dime, not a dime, baby. Congratulations. Emmy nominated. This is your second nomination for the Morning Show. And this time you're alongside other, your co-stars,
Starting point is 00:22:31 Billy Crudup and John Ham. Tell us why you feel you deserve the award more than them. Well, there's a couple of things. The first is a smaller thing, but it's just my talent. Sure. Yes, obviously. That's generally it. Yeah. Then, this is like a Hollywood thing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 We like to talk about it a lot. Do you go on. But there's a, there's a penis size issue as well. So, hands down. You know, like, they do these, you know, these aren't their real names, you know, it's like John Ham. Like, oh, maybe that insinuate, like Billy Crude Up, you know? You know, I see. And I'm just like, I'll just go duplass.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Like, I don't need to brag, you know? I love it. This is you, you, you, it is well, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, it is, well, well, it, well, well, well, it, well, well, well, it, it, it, it, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th. th. th. th. that, it is, that, that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, that, that on the morning show you have to do a lot of research by watching all the other morning shows. Do you have a favorite? And keep in mind Gail King does watch the Daily Show. So careful what you say. I like Gale King's show. That's it. I like Gail King's show. We love you, Gail. It's the best of all the shows. You know what?
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'm not like a big research actor. Like I'm kind of, I would say Chip is like a 20 to 30% more stressed out version of me and how I am. But what I did discover when I was talking to people about this show is how freaking stressful the live news thing is. Because I produce independent films and I'm like, I know what it's like to work on time constraints and budget constraints, but the live thing. Right. I really kind of got a sense of that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I was like, oh, that's real like shit your pants material. Oh, yeah. That's where it goes down. that thi pants situation happening under here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. thi. I. I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I's. I's. I's, th. I's, th. I's, th. I'm, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, for sure. I'm sure right now you're sitting in a whole... Oh there's a whole shit your pants situation happening under here. I thought I smelled it. Yeah. I mean I can't avoid it. I got a whole whole stock of diapers down here. Listen I'm right there with all the bourbon I got all the all the tools. It's so funny because in season one your character Chip goes in and it feels like he's kind of the audience in a way like we see ourselves in Chip. He has great journalistic integrity, he's level-headed, he's the every man and throughout season three we get to watch your character unravel completely. And Chip gets messy. He does. He gets a little messy. A little sloppy.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Yes. Well, here's a great thing about Chip, in my opinion, why he's so fun to play. Because you're right. He was essentially the moral center of the show. He was the bastion of journalistic integrity. But he's got this wonderful Achilles heel, which is that he is completely co-depeaned upon and obsessed with Alex Levy, which is also easy to play because I'm completely obsessed with Jennifer Aniston, you know, so Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? You know? So like, yeah, really hard getting into character on that one. Yeah. But that's the great thing about Chip is he's got it all right until it comes to his relationship with Alex. And that really is kind of his, his downfall. Mm. You're getting ready to start up on season 4? Yeah, we're a few weeks into shooting.
Starting point is 00:25:48 I know some stuff about plotting. What can you tell us? I feel like if I said something, I can even like really try to say it, and I feel like Apple is inside of that camera or that camera right there. They're all watching. They do have zappers at Apple. They have Apple zappers now. Once you sign those terms and conditions, it goes straight to zapping.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Do you guys have the new eye zap? It is incredible. It's amazing. You need a new charger for it. I know. But you can kill people from across the street. Really something. Don't worry, Apple. We'll edit this part out. Yeah. Oh my God. You're not only such a talented actor, but you're an insanely talented writer and producer
Starting point is 00:26:32 and director. You and your brother Jay essentially defined an entire subgenre of indie film. And that's really important to you still. So why is championing those projects, indie film and TV, so important, even with that sweet Apple cash? Well here it comes. I'm going to be like Chip on the morning show. I'm going to get up on my high horse now because like that stuff is going away. Okay, like our business model is failing. The streamers are reducing. And when that happens, all they're going to do is make the big stuff, like the Game of Thrones, that they know can work. And the really exciting things, like, I may destroy you and baby reindeer.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They're just cutting that stuff away. So what I'm doing right now is like taking the money I make from the morning show, and I'm just going to go and invest and make my own TV series independently. I made a show recently called Penelope that's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, and, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thr-a, thr-a, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I th. I th. I th, I th, I th, and, and, I the, I the, I the, and, and, and, I the, the, the, the, the, thr. I thr. I thr. I'm thr. thr. I'm thr. thr. I'm just, thr. thr. I may thr. And it's about a 16-year-old girl who leaves behind sort of the trappings of her modern life to go live in the woods and I did it because I have teenage daughters who deal with mental health issues and I deal with mental health issues and like our technology and the way we're living is kind of destroying us right now. I don't know if you guys have read the anxious generation. It's an incredible book. You should read it. We had him on. Do you remember? It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And so I really wanted to make something that could contribute to that story. And the only way I can do it now is like, get rich on the morning show and go blow it on my stuff. Nice. That's it. It's so awesome that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that awesome that you do that. You mentioned that you've talked very openly about struggling with anxiety and depression. How did that feel to share that?
Starting point is 00:28:13 Did that, were you surprised by the reaction that you got? 100% surprise. And here's the thing, it didn't feel weird to share because I live in Los Angeles amongst a group of artists where this is just dinner table conversation. We're all anxious and depressed and we're always talking about it all the time we're trading therapists. Oh yeah, what medication is right under the set right now. Yeah, and so it's like what medication are you all? Well I'm switching over to Selecta now, you know, these are our conversations but what I didn't realize is that, you know, as you well know, because I don't know if you guys know, Desi was with me on the league like 10 years ago as a guest star.
Starting point is 00:28:48 It was amazing. But it's a great, it's a great show and a lot of the men who watch that show are not the men who are comfortable with talking about their mental health because they're football dudes and whatnot. And so when I started going on my social media I I got this outpouring, particularly from men, just being like, I can't believe you're saying this out loud, and it makes me feel really good to know that someone that I view as somewhat successful is still on their feet despite this, and it offers hope in that way. So I never really planned on being some sort of mouthpiece for it. I was just sort of whining on social media. And then it kind of this effect so I'm like oh well this is this is something. It's so it not
Starting point is 00:29:29 only brave but it's a generous thing for you to do to help support others so it's really meaningful that you did that. I have one final question yes the morning show is there any thought about spinning it off into doing a behind-the scenes late night show. I'm just curious. So this is one little thing that we've been pitching, okay? It's about a woman who... Fine, I'll do it. I'll do it. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Okay. I accept. I accept. The only thing is the title, it's called Diarrhea Diarrhea Diarrhea. Say no more. Good? Contracts already signed. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I'm in. Mark DuPlais, everyone. All episodes of the morning show are sitting now on Apple TV plus. And to te. I think it could take a quick break though. I got it there. Oh! This election cycle has been a skid.
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