The Daily Show: Ears Edition - R. Kelly Faces Jail Time & Pope Francis Condemns Abusive Priests | Chiwetel Ejiofor

Episode Date: February 26, 2019

Sen. Dianne Feinstein has a tense confrontation with kids, R. Kelly faces jail time for sexual abuse, and director Chiwetel Ejiofor discusses "The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind." Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast. The Weekly Show is going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday we're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about
Starting point is 00:00:34 ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. February 25th, 2019. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Thank you so much for coming out everybody and thank you so much for coming out everybody
Starting point is 00:01:35 and thank you for tuning in. Our guest tonight is an amazing actor now making his directorial debut with The Boy Who Harness The Wind. Chuitel-Egeo-Foy is joining us, everybody! Amazing to have one show. Great, great guy. Also on the show tonight, there's no happy ending for Robert Craft or Arcelli. A Democratic senator fights with kids and Roywood Jr. sees the future of politics. So let's catch up on today's headlines.
Starting point is 00:02:00 First of all, did you guys have a good weekend? Yeah? Oh. Well, I'm glad I asked. I had a fun weekend. I was pretty chilled out, you know, I hung out with some friends. I watched the Oscars from on stage at the Oscars. Hush tak, winning, hashtag living my life.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Hash tak, I just want to thank my mom. It was, yo, it was such an amazing, it was my first time there. I couldn't believe up, like it's, everyone is a move, like it's just, it's wild. Like the whole, like everyone, you just, ah, ah, and then you seem like an idiot, because the whole, I love you, I love you all, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, I, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm,. I love you all. I was super starstruck. I literally, Helen Mirren punched me in the face. Best night of my life. But for those of you who couldn't be at the show, there was still plenty to enjoy watching at home.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I mean, of course, the big moment everyone is talking about was the super sexy duet between Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. It was super hot. Now, here at the Daily Show, we can't afford the rights to the song, so we can play the video for you, but we had to change the music. But still, take a look. Wow. Get a room, you too. And then of course, there was the big news of the night. Greenbook, which won best picture. Yeah, it's been called the reverse driving Miss Daisy.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Because the driver is white and the passenger is black, and also they drive in reverse, the whole movie. But I'm not gonna lie. For me, the night's big winner was Spike Lee. The most animated reaction of the night coming from veteran director Spike Lee, who won his first Oscar for best adapted screenplay for his critically acclaimed film, Black Clansman.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Lee taking a not-so-veiled shot at President Trump in his acceptance speech. 2020 presidential election is around the corner. Make the moral choice between love versus hate. Let's do the right thing. President Trump just twee just said. Be nice if Spike Lee could read his notes or better yet not have to use notes at all when doing his racist hit on your president, who has done more for African-Americans. justice reform, lowest unemployment numbers in history,
Starting point is 00:04:29 tax cuts, etc. than almost any other president. That's right. President Trump called Spike Lee racist. It was like, black clansmen, that's offensive folks, should have been called black, very fine people on both sides. Both sides. Also, Trump is the last person to tell anyone about their reading. Like, really?
Starting point is 00:04:52 Mr. United States, that guy. So congratulations to almost all of the winners from last night. Let's move on to some international news. Vice President Mike Pence. He was in Colombia today, whereas Donald Trump calls it South Mexico. And he was there to monitor the situation across the border in Venezuela, where things are getting more tense than Mike Pence's own eyebrows when he tries to look tough. The crisis in Venezuela reaching new heights over the weekend as President Nicholas Maduro closed the border with Colombia and Brazil
Starting point is 00:05:23 in an effort to block humanitarian aid from the U.S. from getting into the country. Vice President Pence arrived in Colombia today to meet with Venezuela's opposition leader Juan Guaido. Our efforts to date will not only continue, they will be increased. Despite Maduro's brutality, we will press on. Okay, whose idea was it to send Mike Pence to solve the crisis in Venezuela? Like, is the plan just to bore Maduro out of power?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Is that what it is? Maduro is just going to be like, okay, okay, enough about your mother. I'll leave already. Also, I think it's a little risky to send Mike Pence to South America. What if he accidentally eat spicy food? Like, I mean, this is Mike Pence. If he has too much salt, he needs to goggle with, like, holy water for an hour. Also, by the way, I feel like Mike Pence goggles
Starting point is 00:06:13 with his mouth closed because he doesn't want to seem gay. He's like, bribble, bull. And finally, some news from the world of politics. Senator Dianne Feinstein. At 85, the California Democrat is the oldest person now serving in the US Senate, but she's not too old to mix it up with some much younger opponents. Lawmakers are no strangers to heat a debate, but California Senator Dianne Feinstein is raising eyebrows after getting into it with a group of children over climate change. We are trying to ask you to vote yes on the Green New Deal.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Okay, I'll tell you what, we have our own Green New Deal. The government is supposed to be for the people and buy the people and all for the kids. You know what's interesting about this group is I've been doing this for 30 years. I know what I'm doing. You come in here and you say it has to be my to be to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the to be the the to be to be the the to be to be to be the to be the to be the to be the the the the to vote the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. Yes. Yes. theateateateate. group theateate. theate. thean the thean. thean. Yes. Yes. to to the the the the for 30 years. I know what I'm doing. You come in here and you say it has to be my way or the highway. I don't respond to that. I was elected by almost a million vote plurality and I know what I'm doing. You're supposed to listen to us. That's your old your job. I'm 16. I can't vote. Well, you know better than I do. So I think one day you should run for the Senate. Great. And then you do it your way.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Well, maybe you should run for the Senate. How are you the most childish person in a debate with actual children? I'm surprised. Finestein. I'm 16. I'm surprised like Feinstein didn't just copy everything they said. I'm 16. I'm Shakespeare. Stop copying me. Climate change is a problem. Senator Feinstein, what are you doing? Don't lecture the children. Just lie to them. Doesn't she know how easy it is to lie to children? She should have just been like, you want the Green New Deal? Okay, well, I'll talk to Santa about it. Now get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I don't negotiate with terrorists. All right, let's move on to today's top story. If you are a sexual predator, first of all, please stop watching my show. And secondly, this past weekend was not a good time for you. Because it felt like the entire country turned into an episode of To Catch a Predator. Starting with an arrest that was about as surprising as shallow, winning best song at the Oscars. Singer R. Kelly waking up in police custody this morning. He's now charged with 10 counts of sex abuse involving three minors. Kelly spent the weekend in jail
Starting point is 00:08:49 unable to post his $100,000 bond. If convicted, Kelly could face 70 years in prison. It's the freaking weekend, baby I'm about to spend 70 years in prison? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh. 70 years in prison, though. That's a long time. And you know what that means? Get ready for a lot more chapters of trapped in the closet. Yeah. Because that's all he's going to have time for.
Starting point is 00:09:17 It'll be like, man, I can't believe I complained about being trapped in the closet. the clostha-in th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, t, t, t, t, t, t, ti, ti, ti, ti, ti, ti, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi's thi's thin, thi's thin, thi's thi.s, any time. But that's right. After years and years of alleged sex crimes, R. Kelly may finally be facing justice. And almost feels strange that they got him off to all these years. You know? It's like if Wiley Coyote finally caught the roadrunner, who is also a criminal, by the way. Yeah, that bird has been smuggling, smuggling drugs across the border for years. And Trump's border wall isn't going to stop him either. Yeah, he'll just paint a hole in the wall and just beep, beep, right through it. That's what he does. He's not the good guy.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And like, by the way, I was genuinely shocked to find out that Rkelly doesn't have $100,000 for bail. I was shocked by that possible. You know, now I think of his music completely differently. I thought I believe I can fly was a song about believing in yourself. Turns out this mother's f-flick I couldn't afford a plane ticket. I believe I can fly. Well, according to your bank statement, no, you can take the bus, bitch. That's what you can do. That's what you can do. So, it turns out he doesn't have money.
Starting point is 00:10:26 He's been charged with 10 counts. So Archelie's best bet right now is to pray. Although I don't know if God has time for his prayers because he's got his hands full right now. Pope Francis today ended a landmark summit on the Roman Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal by calling abusive clergy tools of Satan. Pope Francis delivered strong condemnation of wrongful clerics yesterday, the pontiff promising to bring the wrath of God upon priests who are sexually abusive.
Starting point is 00:10:54 That's right. The Pope has threatened abusive priests with the wrath of God. That is the ultimate, just wait till your dad gets home. When he comes back to earth, you are in so much trouble. Yeah, so if I was one of those priests, I'd be pretty worried about facing God's will. I mean, look at what happened to Jesus, and God wasn't even mad at him, hmm? And if you're super religious, the wrath of God reigning down on abusive priests is the worst possible punishment. On the other hand, many people are pointing out that the wrath of God isn't a thing. Yeah, I bet Arkely heard this and he was like, uh, can I also take the wrath of God as
Starting point is 00:11:36 my punishment? No, I'm saying instead of prison, uh, I'll take two. Give me double wrath of God and no prison, yeah? Can I do that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? So that? that? that? that? that? that? that? th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. Yeah. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th God and no prison, yeah? Can I do that? So it looks like the church isn't going to do enough to punish these sex criminals, which means we might need to get the government involved. The only problem is the government has also got its hands full right now. A federal judge in Florida said tonight that one of a Florida billionaire accused of sexual abuse of minors. When Alexander Acosta, who's now the labor secretary, was the U.S. attorney in Miami, he and his prosecutors broke the law while cutting an extremely generous deal with Jeffrey Epstein.
Starting point is 00:12:14 The politically connected billionaire accused of sexually abusing more than 30 underage girls at his Palm Beach Mansion. Are the concerns about the labor secretary's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case? I really don't know too much about it. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho the tho the tho the the tho the the tho tho the tho their tho-a tho-a-a-a-a-a-a' tho-auster th labor secretary sampling of the Geoffrey Epstein case? I really don't know too much about it. I know he's done a great job as labor secretary, and that seems like a long time ago. Yes, you heard that right. Eleven years ago,
Starting point is 00:12:37 the man who is now Trump's labor secretary basically let a billionaire off the hook for abusing underage girls. And President Trump's response is, that seems thenenenenenee, thiiiiiiiiiiii, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, to, thi, to, thoomomomk, to, tho, tho, to to to too, I'm to to to too, I too, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, th, th, th, th, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho.a, thooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. too. th underage girls. And President Trump's response is, that seems like a long time ago. Yeah. Look, that thing was 11 years ago, folks. By now, all those underage girls are overage, problem solved. I also like how the president's like, oh, I haven't been following this story.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I was too busy watching Spike Lee at the Oscars. Think about how crazy this story. I was too busy watching Spike Lee at the Oscars. Yeah. Think about how crazy this is. There's a member of Trump's cabinet who helped a billionaire sex offender sweep a scandal under the rug and this story is flying almost completely under the radar because there's another billionaire having a different sex scandal at the same time also in Florida. Yeah I'm talking about New England Patriots owner, Robert Kraft. He's famous for leading the paths to six Super Bowl rings, but it turns out there's another kind of ring he may have been involved in. New England Patriots
Starting point is 00:13:34 owner, Robert Kraft has been officially charged with first-degree solicitation and a prostitute in Florida. The charges come as part of a much larger crackdown on illegal sex trafficking. On two occasions, Kraft solicited a prostitute at this shopping center massage parlor, about 20 miles from his West Palm Beach home. Okay, I'm sorry, this story is so insane. What are you doing paying for sex in a strip mole in Florida? You own the Patriots. You could walk into any strip mall in Boston and get a hand job for free.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You wouldn't even have to ask. They'd just be like, oh my God, Robert Kraft, what an honor to yank your crank. Hey, Sully, get over here and help with the balls. I mean, seriously, you're a billionaire and you might go to jail for a happy ending? Which by the way, I've never really understood the term happy ending. Like, all massages have a happy ending. Like, all the massag's like, I leave relaxed and smelling of lavender. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:14:35 When people are like, did you get a happy ending? They make it sound like, the alternative is a sad ending. You know, they're asked, do you the the the the the, the masseuse is like, okay, massage is over, and your dog is dead. No, I should have got the happy one. But it's important to remember that this isn't just a case of a rich man paying for sex. All right? Because investigators say that these women weren't willing sex workers. They were women who were from China, who were forced into sex slavery, held against. And to. And, to. And, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe, their, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, toe, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thea.ea.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s.s. And, their mea. And, their me slavery, held against their will, and made to serve over a thousand clients a year.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, so this wasn't pretty woman. It's more like pretty horrific, which is why these are very serious charges. Unless you're a Patriots fan. What you won't find among many Patriots fans are a lot of critics of Kraft. He's single, right? It's my boy and stand by him the whole way. He's a goat. Somebody's just trying to come down on him because everybody hates to see the Patriots win. If he wants to go have a little thumb with the hook is, that's his business. I don't want to think any of this happened. They might drag his name through the mud a little bit, but I think in the end it's everything's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And I think it'll fuel them for seven. You know, this is what's incredible about sports in America. If you're winning, there's no limit to what your fans will let you get away with. Robert Croft could nuke Boston. And you still have Patriot fans staggering out of the blast zone, they'd be like, this is just fuel for ring number seven, baby! Like that's how crazy loyal sports fans are. And look, you can call it repulsive, you can call it insensitive for these people to just
Starting point is 00:16:15 brush aside serious sex crimes like this, but you could also call it presidential. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. John Stewart here. the neweably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio, on sandwiches. Listen to Bread Ratio on Sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is an Academy Award and Golden Globe-nominated actor who makes his feature
Starting point is 00:16:57 directorial debut in the new Netflix film, The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind. Please welcome. Chuitel EdEgio 4. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm such a big fan of your work. I mean, you've had 20 years of acting on stage and on film. Welcome. Thank you. Welcome. I'm such a big fan of your work. I mean, you've had 20 years of acting on stage and on film. I've loved everything you've done and this is a new chapter in your life. This is your debut in directing. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. It's an amazing film. It's set in Malawi and you actually bought the film rights to this book after you read the book. You read the book and you were like, I need to make this into a film. What did you love about the story? I loved, the first thing that I love was it's optimism, you know, it's hopefulness. You know, the story centers on William Camquamba. Yes. 13 years old in Malawi, and you know, his community is going through a famine, essentially, that's brought on by intense flooding and then a drought. So the government has turned their back on them, price of grains through the roof and you know, in a massive shortfall for their grain harvest.
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Starting point is 00:21:50 Well, you know, first of all, I wanted the film to feel incredibly authentic, to feel like a sort of teleportation experience it. I wanted to take the audience into, here we are in this hole. And I wanted to tell the film from the point of view of the people who experienced it. Right. I really felt like, you know, we often see these films and we sort of step outside and we often film films like it, you know, they're telling the story of these hardships
Starting point is 00:22:14 or struggles or, you know, these kind of these kind of inside that perspective? You know, to invite an audience into the private spaces of people in their lives when they're undergoing these kind of, these highly stressful difficult situations, but finding a way, a way through. So I felt like a way to do that was to just kind of embrace the authenticity, to go right into Malawi, to be in all of the actual locations, but also to learn to learn their learn, their learn, their learn, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their............. So, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, together.s.s. together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, their, their. their. the, to try and really encapsulate their experience and tell the story from their perspective. Let me ask you this. You're creating this film, you're telling the story, you have this community, you have this
Starting point is 00:22:56 vision for what you're trying to achieve. There's something very specific that you do in the film, and that is you use subtitles throughout. You also have the people playing between languages. There are moments where people are speaking in English and then they switch into Chichewa and then they come back into English, which for anyone who speaks multiple languages is one of the most authentic ways to speak a language. That's not an easy thing to do and I can imagine some people would doubt it and be like, hey, why don't they just all speak it's a lot easier to do, but you have to make that choice. Why?
Starting point is 00:23:28 For the authenticity, really, for that sense of really being in and of that place. And that was one of the things I loved when you're in Malawi, that's what happens. You know, people speak English in certain circumstances. They might speak English at school, they might speak English in places, to English in in in in English in in, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, oraugh, ora, ora, orauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauauaa, their, their, they might speak English in places of work or speaking to members of a different tribe obviously where the language isn't common. So that all happens and then people at home in their intimate communities and their family dynamics are speaking to Chihuahua. But sometimes, especially with younger people, that slips into a little bit of English and into Chicoa. I just wanted to capture a bit of that because that felt very authentic authentic, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, to, and, and I, to be, to be, and then, and then, and then, to be, to, to, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, thei..I.I.I.I.I.I.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A. And, tha. And, tha. And, their, their, th capture a bit of that because that felt very authentic to me, it felt very real to me.
Starting point is 00:24:05 I think it happens all over the while, by the way. People do that and people in the UK, you know, if their families are from Europe somewhere, Italy, Spain, France, you know, people do that at home and then they speak in different languages and so people really related to that sort of bilingual capacity to the film and you know it allowed me to introduce that kind of authentic element to the storytelling. You have an amazing story that you've told. It's a fantastic debut and I was really fascinated and pleasantly surprised to find out that William is still going. He's still in energy. He is now a grown man. I think he works between one of the Carolinas and North Carolina and still Mal Yeah. Has he seen the film? He has, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 I mean, you know, he's seen it a couple of times now and he's really excited by it. I mean, he has a kind of, you know, it does take him back into a traumatic time with his young life. And even though it has all this energy and hopeful and he himself has all of those things. You know it is that kind of a balance of remembering this very stressful, you know, difficult time but the resolution to that is is profound and positive you know so you know he's a wonderful guy.
Starting point is 00:25:13 He has this and he's building an innovation center now in Long the Capital of the Hawaii and it's really about empowering young people to you know to identify the problems that they have in their communities and find ways of solving those problems and selves with the help of a wider community, you know, and that is very empowering, it's very strengthening. It's really what his legacy and his journey is and what he did in these extraordinary circumstances. And, you know, like I say, it's about living in the solution. I think we all have a lot to learn from the William Camquambus of this world, you know. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Especially in the face of, you know, climate change, things like this, is what put this community under so much stress in the first place. You know, so he's a wonderful man. It's a wonderful story that you've told. Fantastic job acting in it as always. I think we're going to be seeing a lot of you behind the camera, my friend. Thank you for being on the show. The Boy to Harness the Win premieres in Select Theatres and on Netflix, March 1st. Chutele EGF for everybody. Thank you, a ball. Thank you.
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