The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Racism and Vaccination in the U.S. | Andra Day

Episode Date: February 25, 2021

Trevor highlights racial inequity in vaccine distribution, Dulce Sloan examines the stereotype of the strong Black woman, and Andra Day discusses "The United States vs. Billie Holiday." To help Black... people in need of access to culturally competent mental health care and to support Black therapists, go to dailyshow.com/FreeBlackTherapy. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the daily social distancing show with Trevor Noah. Let's kick things off with an update on the January 6th insurrection at the Capitol. The day white supremacist entered the Capitol without having to get elected. Yesterday, Congress held its first hearings on what went wrong with security that day. and the testimony from the people in charge was not encouraging. Former Capitol Hill security officials and the acting chief of the D.C. Metropolitan Police were counting the January 6th insurrection, highlighting major communication failures
Starting point is 00:02:59 that led to the deadly riots. The day before the insurrection, an FBI memo, explicitly warning about the possibility of violence The day before the insurrection, an FBI memo explicitly warning about the possibility of violence was sent via email but never made its way to leadership. Here's the intelligence. Be ready to fight. Congress needs to hear glass breaking, doors being kicked in, and blood from their BLM and Antifa slave soldier is being spilled. Get violence.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Go there ready for war. We get our president or we die. I would certainly think that something as violent as an insurrection of the Capitol would warrant, you know, a phone call or something. Yeah, man, I agree with this. In fact, this was the first time in history an email should have been a meeting. Email is the least effective way to get an emergency message to anybody. It goes text, DM, message in a bottle that you throw into the ocean, and then email.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And if it's really not important, a phone call. I mean, this was an attempted overthrow of the government. It's kind of important that they hear about it. I'm just saying, like, if it was me, I would have sent an edible arrangement. You know how I know email isn't an effective way to get someone's attention? Because whenever you send an email, what do you have to do immediately after that? You have to send a text asking, did you get my email? The problem with email is that we just get so many.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You know, it's easy to miss the one one one that that one one one one that one one one that one one one that one one one that one one one that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that says insurrection at the Capitol. You know, because it might be below another email with three siren emoges like, last chance for 10% off-color contact lenses. And I mean, I know which one's getting my attention. Ladies. But yesterday's hearing was just the beginning of a long process. I mean, President Trump incited a mob that stormed the Capitol chanting hang Mike Pence. That's something that was super upsetting to everyone. Well, almost everyone.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Former Vice President Mike Pence is standing by his former boss. That's right. Pence told a group of conservative lawmakers yesterday, he maintains a close personal friendship with the former president. This is significant because of what happened on January 6th and pro-Trump demonstrators coming into the Capitol, looking for Mike Pence and Donald Trump tweeting about attacking Mike Pence even during the Capitol riot. But he did not express, I'm told any ill will towards the former president.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Banks told me, I got the sense they speak often and maintain the same personal friendship and relationship now that they have for four years. Woo! Staying loyal after he sent a mob to kill you? Man, that shows how committed Mike Pence is to his principles. He won't even abort a friendship. And I don't know where the line is between forgiving and being a doormat. But Mike Pence crossed it a long time ago. I mean, yeah, the Bible says to turn the other cheek, but at the same time, one of the 10 commandments is, thou shalt not be a bitch ass. I guess at this point, there's nothing that Trump can do to Mike Pence that would make Pence turn on him.
Starting point is 00:05:56 They basically have the you feel that way. Is there anything else I could help you with? And finally, an update on policing in America. One of the big problems is that police are too often called into situations where they should actually be the last resort. So many activists have said that we should find alternatives to cops as first responders. You know, maybe health care professionals or community members. And now the NYPD is saying, all right, I hear you, but what about robot dogs?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Meet DigiDog, the newest member of the NYPD's technical assistance response unit. Yes, a robot dog that's hounding city streets, assisting its handlers and saving lives and protecting New York's finest. Digi dog took its first steps here in the Wakefield section of the Bronx today. The four-legged robot was reportedly responding to a home invasion, climbing the stairs of an apartment here on West 227 Street. It allows the NYPD to have eyes and ears and also talk to individuals in life-threatening situations. This allows them to use the least amount of force necessary to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to resolve to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to talk to individuals in life-threatening situations. This allows them to use the least amount of force necessary to resolve that situation. Wow, a robot dog?
Starting point is 00:07:14 What a cool way for the police to say they have too much money and should be defunded. And this robot dog comes with tons of features. It's got cameras, it's got a microphone, it's even got an extra knife that it can plant on an unarmed body, all sorts of things. But you gotta give props to the police for how they're marketing this robot.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Oh, look at our adorable dog. No, it's a cop made out of steel. Like, they can call tear gas potty smoke. It doesn't mean it's going to sting any less when they blast you with it. It will be funny though to see how people try to bribe a robot police dog. Listen officer, how about we left this ticket slide and I give you 10 minutes with my laser printer. No questions asked. And look I'm not saying robot dogs won't ever be useful. I mean, that'd be great to send into a hostage situation. I want a million dollars and a helicopter to get me out of here.
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Starting point is 00:08:18 What? ? I'm not taking you out? I'm doing a hostage thing. Okay,, I'll take you to the end of the block and back, okay, you got that? All right, good boy, come on, come on, good boy, yeah, look at you. But let's move on now to our main story, the coronavirus vaccine. It's the reason your grandma is now face-timing you from a crowded bar.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Today brings some really good news. The FDA announced that a new vaccine from Johnson and Johnson has been proven effective, including against the coronavirus variants, and could be hitting the streets this weekend. Plus, unlike the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines, it works with one dose and doesn't need to be kept in freezes. So this vaccine is basically as low maintenance as you pretend to be on your first date. And with vaccine availability improving, more and more people are able to get their shots. And experts actually say that America will soon be giving out nearly 2 million doses a day. So with 330 million doses a day,
Starting point is 00:09:17 that means the pandemic will be over in... Sixth? But this is still America, which means not everyone is getting access to the vaccines equally. The big gap in who gets the coronavirus vaccine in the US. Information from 23 states that report COVID vaccinations by race and ethnicity shows a stark difference in the roll-up. Black Americans are hospitalized for COVID at almost triple the rate and are at least 1.5 times
Starting point is 00:09:48 more likely to die from this virus than white Americans. But just over 5% of Americans vaccinated are black versus more than 60% who are white. Cities like Philadelphia and Chicago with a black population double or triple the percent receiving COVID vaccine. Unfortunately, in New York City, we learned that we had managed to vaccinate more non-New York City residents here in New York City than we had vaccinated black, Hispanic, and Native American New Yorkers combined. Well, well, well, well, if it isn't my old archnemesis, racism, what are you doing here? What's that? Oh, you're pretty much everywhere? Yeah, that's a fair point. But this is crazy people.
Starting point is 00:10:34 According to the available data, New York has vaccinated more out of towners than minorities who actually live here in New York. I mean, they need to beef up the screening process. You know, like before giving someone a shot, just ask them to walk six feet on a sidewalk, and then if they stop and look up at a building to admire it, you send their ass back to Connecticut. And this isn't just a New York problem.
Starting point is 00:10:58 This is an America problem. Since black people are getting sicker at a higher rate, and thap getting vaccinated at a higher rate, because they need it more. It's the same reason you hand out free condoms on college campuses, not at a lopping camp. So why are black people falling so far behind? Well, let's find out why. In another installment of, if you don't know, now you know. There are two universal truths to living in America. One, every holiday is a mattress sale in disguise, and two, the wealthier you are, the easier it is to access life's necessities. And unfortunately, that's one big reason why black people are having a hard time getting
Starting point is 00:11:43 the vaccine. Race and income really determinetime getting the vaccine. Race and income really determine your access to resources and that's no different with COVID. Studies show more than 30% of black adults don't have broadband internet, leaving many without information online about where and how to get vaccinated. If you don't have great high-speed internet, you don't have a computer, how can you jump in line to make an appointment? Black residents are significantly more likely than white residents to live more than a mile
Starting point is 00:12:11 from the closest vaccination facility. Researchers also found black people are less likely than whites to live near a pharmacy, clinic, hospital, or health center that can administer COVID-19 vaccines. Over 50% of the Chicago black communities were so-called pharmacy deserts, low-income neighborhoods where pharmacies are far from the population, and people don't have regular access to vehicles, compared with just 5% in white communities. San Francisco's pharmacy desert is zip code 9-4-4-4. 92% of the population is black and Hispanic, and there's only one retail pharmacy
Starting point is 00:12:46 for the more than 35,000 people who live there. Where do they go if they don't have a personal or primary care physician? And the answer, in many cases is there's nowhere to go. That's right. Many black neighborhoods don't even have a pharmacy. There are so few pharmacies that I'm surprised Republicans haven't made them voting locations. And this is especially messed up because in most white neighborhoods, there are pharmacies everywhere. I mean, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:13:15 One time, I went into a Walgreens that had a CVS inside of it. And it's also crazy how many people still don't even have broadband. Before America makes vaccination appointments dependent on high-speed internet, maybe they should sign everyone up for high-speed internet. And then a month later, once those people are done going through all the internet porn, then they can get around to making an appointment. So, if you don't have the internet to schedule an appointment, and you don't have a local pharmacy, to administer the shot, and you don't have thoe tho to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, and to, and to, and to, and toe, and too, and the too, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. toe.a. toe.the shot, and you don't have transportation to a vaccine distribution center, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:13:48 I mean, at that point, you might as well just make the vaccine yourself. Which I tried, by the way, but I didn't have any MRNA in my house, so I just used barbecue sauce. I mean, it didn't work, but my blood tasks to taste delicious. But for the black community, the barriers to getting vaccinated go way beyond a lack of resources. There's also a psychological barrier. Many black people are just reluctant to get the shot. Because the truth is, they trust the medical community
Starting point is 00:14:15 less than they trust the golden globes. And that suspicion may seem irrational to outsiders, but trust me, it is grounded in some very real history. There is, especially among the black community, a horrible history of mistreatment that has created distrust in doctors and medicine. African Americans were experimented on, used essentially to justify the cruelty of slavery, creating science. This book from 1851, titled The Natural History of Human Speciescies echoed one of the most prevalent and dangerous beliefs in medicine at the time, that black people did not feel pain or anxiety. The federally sanctioned Tuskegee experiment sought to examine the long-term effects of
Starting point is 00:14:55 civilists by letting infected black men go untreated with no regard to the suffering it caused. There was also Henrietta Lax, a mother of five, who in 1951 sought treatment for a tumor. She passed away later that year. Scientists, without her consent or her family's knowledge, harvested herself for medical research. The ties between race and medical treatment have lasted hundreds of years, and they're still alive in medicine today. The University of Virginia conducted a study of 200 white medical students in 2016.
Starting point is 00:15:25 40% thought black skin was thicker than white skin. The study also revealed that some doctors think black patients feel less pain. Uh, excuse me? Black people don't feel pain? Well, I guess you've never met a man named Michael Jordan. He's been crying about everything for 10 years. I mean, black people invented the blues. Nobody feels pain like black people. Except for Adele. That woman has been through some shit. But this is why so many black people are suspicious of
Starting point is 00:15:56 the medical community, because that community has betrayed them again and again and again. And you're not going to trust people who have betrayed you that many times. Oh, unless you're my pants. But unfortunately, this mistrust actually hurts black people. Because these vaccines are safe. Believe me on this. Why people would never let Martha Stewart get one if it was dangerous. I mean, if something ever happened to her, they would have no idea how to match their centerpieces to their napkin holders. It would be chaos! And because this anti-vaccine sentiment is hurting the black community,
Starting point is 00:16:28 black leaders are now stepping in to try and get the message out through an institution that the community does trust the church. Black churches have long been a source of guidance and strength for the community it serves. It's the reason why black clergy across the country ccccoc c ccc, the country cc, the country cc, the country cc, the country, the community it serves. It's the reason why black clergy across the country are teaming up with medical professionals and local officials to educate and encourage people to get the COVID-19 vaccine. Dr. Anthony Fauci in a virtual face-to-face with Baltimore's faith and community leaders. We need your help. Part of his strategy aimed at getting a message in to the black community. On Friday, black pastors from several Boston churches received their first round of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine. We're also here to educate and reassure the minority community,
Starting point is 00:17:10 the vaccines are safe. Reverend Liz Walker says she preaches about three things, truth, love, and lowering anxiety. Her focus now is spreading the truth about the vaccine. Half her congregation says they won't take it. Some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some. truth about the vaccine. Half her congregation says they won't take it. Some believe God will save them. I always respond that yes you should put your trust in God but remember God uses doctors. That's right. God uses doctors. I mean not all doctors, you know Dr. Phil is the devil's work but doctors who are
Starting point is 00:17:40 actually doctors, well they're doing the Lord's work. And props to people like Dr Fauci for speaking to black churches and for not doing that that that that that that that that that th th th th th thi thi tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr truth truth truth truth truth truth truths truths truths truths, truths, truths, truths, truths, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes tr tr tr true true true tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr tr true true true true tru tru tru truths, truths, truths, truths, truths, truths, truths truths truths truths, truths, truths, truths, truths truths truths, truths the Lord's work. And props to people like Dr. Fauci for speaking to black churches, and for not doing that thing that white people do when they visit a black church, where they start talking like Martin Luther King Jr. And I can tell you that we as a people will get to herd immunity. Hey, man, you can just use your normal voice. Oh, thank God. Oh, my voice was killing me.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And if you ask me, Black Church is the number one place to reach black people. I mean, the only other place that would make sense is a Verses on Instagram and a Black Barbershop. But that one wouldn't work, because then they just get sidetracked debating which vaccine is the greatest of all time. Nah, man, listen up. Polio is the greatest vaccine of all time. The hell it is, man, what about mumps? Mumps? Man, don't bring that mumps bullshit into my shop. Look, the point is, encouraging vaccination through the church is a great idea. It's actually something that the Daily Show wants toto get behind, which is why we asked Pastor Roy to help us out.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Thank you all for logging on to the Lord this morning. It has come to my attention that some of y'all are looking at the COVID vaccine the way Jesus looked at Judas during the last supper. Suspicious. And look, I understand that the medical community has done unholy things to black people, but I'm here to tell you to put your trust in the Trinity of Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson and Johnson. Because if you get to Rona Jesus can't put his hands on you. He's social distancing. So I want you to let Jesus and that vaccine into your soul, or at least until your left shoulder. I don't thi. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th th th th th th th th th thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I'm thi, want you to let Jesus and that vaccine into your soul.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Well, at least until your left shoulder. I don't think y'all hit me. I said, I want you to let Jesus and that vaccine into your soul. See, I need some help in here. Somebody get me my soldiers of the Lord. I want you to baptize yourself in the healing waters of the vaccine. Get your vaccine. Get your vaccine. Push out the antichrist and let in the antibodies. Water in the wine, vaccine in the mind. Water in the wine, vaccine in the mind. Water in the wine, vaccine in the mind. I want you vaccine atheist to believe. Preach brother.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Do not be led astray by false Facebook prophets. Don't listen to your uncle's friend. He is not a doctor. Let the vaccination be your salvation from your isolation. Raymond. Go outside, go outside, go outside, go Gorset, Gorset, Gorset, Gorset, Gorset, Gorset, Goa St. Goa St.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Blester the immune, for they shall inherit the earth from the movie theater, to the gym, all the way to the promised land of Red Lobster! Oh, the red star we see! Now I ain't gonna hold y'all up, I, I th, I' up, I' up, I' th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th Ultimate family's feet. Now I ain't gonna hold y'all up, I think we'd have made the point. Also, I gotta wrap this up, my little boy got a clarinet lesson over Zoom. I only pay for the free 40 minute version. Praise Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And God bless Dr. Fauci. And I'll see you next week for the booster shop. Oh yes, I can feel it. All right, when we come back, Dulce Sloan tells us why black women aren't as strong as you may think. And André is joining us as a guest. Don't go away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast.
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Starting point is 00:22:14 Again, that's Zip Recruiter. The smartest way to hire. Welcome back to the daily social distancing show. It's no secret that black women have always had toe to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the the to the the the the the the no secret that black women have always had to deal with negative stereotypes. But for Black History Month, Dulce Sloan looks at a positive stereotype that still has a negative impact in another episode of Dulcayne. Black women, we gave you Oprah, Beyonce, and all your favorite reaction memes. I've heard people say they like their women like they like their coffee. Strong, black, and hot enough to give you second-degree burns.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Careful what you wish for. Darius. But the thing is, not all black women are strong. And even the ones that are strong aren't just that. We like doors open for us too, especially with someone with biceps like Michael B. Jordan, abs like Michael B. Jordan, hair like Michael B. Jordan. But unfortunately, the strong black woman stereotype is ingrained in American culture. It has a long history, about as old as Morgan-Faer-Farriven. Darius Darius. Darius. th. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we like. We, we like. We, we like. We. We. We. We like. We like. We like. We, we, we, we, we, we. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We, we, we, we, we, we, th. We like. We like. We like. We like. We like, th. We like, th. We like, th. th like, th like, th like like like like like like, th like like like like like like, th like like like, th like like th like, th like, th. We like, th. We like stereotype is ingrained in American culture. It has a long history, about as old as Morgan Freeman and Betty White, combined.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Now you may be wondering, what is a strong black woman? It's the idea that black women are emotionally resilient, naturally selfless, too proud to ask for help and can succeed with no resources. So basically every character played by Viola Davis. The irony is the strong black woman stereotype was started by black women to combat all the negative ones. See, in the aftermath of slavery, there were really only two stereotypes of black women. You were either some sex-temptress Jezebel or a mammy who was just there to smother people in Habuzo. In response, black suffragette, Mary Turch Terrell, coined
Starting point is 00:24:10 the strong black woman motto, lifting as we climb. And I get what she was going for, but lift as we climb? Even bodybuilders don't do both at the same time. You can't expect a black woman to do more than Schwarzenegger in his prime. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, the time, their, their, their, t, t, th, th, th, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, their, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thr-s, togu, toguui, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, their, thii, the black woman to do more than Schwarzenegger in his prime, but over time, society shrank a black woman down to just her strength. And the popular conception now is that black women can bear and overcome any birth. We see it all over our culture. In movies like the color purple. All my life I had to fight. And how can we forget ghost? Where Whoopi Goldberg literally has to let a white man use her body to rub foreheads with his fiancee. Even when black women only have one line it's strong as hell.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Move or you will be moved. Damn at least let her say hello. But Tulsa what's wrong with being perceived as strong? Isn't it a good thing? No! Not if black women destroy their mental and physical health trying to live up to it, and not if people think black women are so strong, they make them do all the work on their own. Look at Stacey Abrams.
Starting point is 00:25:16 She helped Democrats win Georgia, and before you knew it, she was being asked to fix vaccine distribution, the New York subway, and Kim and Kanye's marriage. The stereotype even reaches the doctor's office. Black women are less likely to be properly diagnosed, they have a much higher maternal mortality rate, and they're less likely to be believed about their symptoms and pain. So a black woman basically has to be a doctor to know everything that's going on with her body and then convince another doctor that that's what's happening. I was in a car accident.
Starting point is 00:25:49 I have contusions, lacerations, and internal bleeding. Get me a morphine drip and prep surgery stack. We'll get you a couple bandaid and you'll be fine. What? So, the next time you see a black woman struggling at work or trying to lift a box, help her. Don't just stand there like you're about to see Wonder Woman in action. In fact, if you're in the New York area, I'm moving this week. And I could use some help moving my couch.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Because I'll be damned if I'm going to pull my back lifting my own couch. Now. Thank you so much for that Dulce. I really wish I could help you move, but I'm busy on whatever day that is. All right, when we come back, the multi-talented Andra Day talks about playing the legendary Billy Holiday. You don't want to miss it. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 Earlier today, I spoke with singer, songwriter, and actor, Andre Day. We talked about the legacy of Billy Holiday and her portrayal of the legend in her new movie that's just gotten her two Golden Globe nominations. Andre, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. That's what it is, isn't it? I enjoyed just as much as the regular Daily Show, so good. Oh, well, thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I really do. And before we get any further, let's start with the congratulations that are in order. Two Golden Globe nominations, which is huge for your work on the new Billy Holiday movie movie. And what's really impressive about is not just the nominations. This is your debut acting role. I mean, what a way to start. Yeah, yeah, definitely what a way to start. And it was almost a way to end while I was on set. I was like, this might have taken me out.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I might have had to come here after this. But no, I mean, now I'm definitely more balanced and I feel kind of a healthier place. But yeah, it it was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, now I'm definitely more balanced and I feel kind of at a healthier place. But yeah, it was, I mean, I didn't want to do it at first, but I'm really glad that I did, and I didn't sort of, I guess, self-sabotage my way out of it. Because it's an honor to be a part of Billy's story and legacy and to help bring the truth, about her life to the public irony. Billy Holiday, people might know as the musician, but what makes this film special is, you show us Billy Holiday as the civil rights icon, as this woman who is fighting against the system
Starting point is 00:29:13 that is trying to shut her down. Tell me a little bit more about that story and the part of her life that a lot of people really don't know about. Yeah, absolutely. To put it frankly, it's the part of her life that people were never supposed to know about. People need to understand that the reason they know Billy Holliday is this sort of tragic drug addict but like a great jazz singer is because that was the narrative that was fed to us as a people. But what they really need to know is that she was sort of the genesis. She was the great godmother of civil rights. she was the first mar mar ss ss ss ss ss ss sing thian sing thian s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to to to thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. to thi. to thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. thei. thei. thei. thei. to thei. to thei. to to thei. to the godmother of civil rights. She was the first martyr in the war on drugs. She was singing Strange Fruit, a song about lynching in America, racial
Starting point is 00:29:48 tendon, in defiance of the government, and she was integrating audiences. You know, she was a fighter, and doing it all on her own. We did not have the civil rights. And as we know, the day, and we would not have had it if it wasn't for her sacrifice, for her, for her. She's a hero because she went up against, arguably the most powerful force in the world at one time and maybe even now, the United States government. You know, it's a really scary story. Talk me through your role and what it was like for you to play this woman who's to play this woman who's performing and really enthralling audiences. And on other hand a woman who is dealing with her fears, her insecurities, and the
Starting point is 00:30:29 dark world that she is a part of whether she likes it or not. Yeah, absolutely. And I love that you said that just now, whether she's a part of it or not, because one of the things I always, I hear all the time is, you know, Blue Holiday was a very complicated figure, and I'm like, thiiiiiiiiiiiii, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi, I'm thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is their, is their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a their, is a th......... And, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thi, is a thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, is athere's nothing complicated about a black queer woman trying to live free. It's complicated as her circumstances. She's in the 30s, the 40s, and the 50s. The entire government is using all of their force and as you said, one of the most powerful forces and one of the most powerful figures. And I think entirety of the government
Starting point is 00:31:07 coming after her singing a song about racial terror and that she lost her father to Jim Crowe, right? That she was raped at 10 and was punished for being raped by a 40-year-old man. Right. She was sent into a brothel, you know that brought into her community and she used, and she she used that as a way to deal with the trauma of living. So there was nothing complex about her. She was beautiful and fascinating. She was in very complex circumstances. And so it made me appreciate her and love her and it was, theymeat, and to pay homage to our people and to their today, theyrowne, to their throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, their, their, their, throwne, their, thrown, their, their, throwne, throwne, throwne, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, some, some, some, some, some, somea, somea, somea, somea, somea, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, throwne, throwne, throwne, and, throwne, and, throwne, and, to, throwne, to, throwne, throwne, and, throwne, throwne, and, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, and singing, you know, when I was on your show and when I was doing it in the cast it was to pay homage to Billy and to pay homage to our people and and to just bring this song into a new era but on set it was very
Starting point is 00:31:52 different and it was the first time I sang the song and realized this is not a beautiful song. This is an ugly song, it's a horrific song, the bulging eyes, the twoisted mowedededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededededed mirted mirted the twisteded the twisteded the twisteded the twisteded the twisted, the twisted mouth, the burning flesh. And I had a need for people in the audience to stop and join me. I didn't want them clapping. I didn't watch. This is another song, go do something. Because I might die after singing this tonight. So it was definitely a different experience, transforming really.
Starting point is 00:32:17 You could have taken the easy route in playing the role. But you didn't. I mean, you lost almost what, 40 pounds to play this role. You also took on some of Billy's vices, you know, you started smoking, you don't smoke, you know, you surrounded yourself with people who are struggling with drugs as well to understand addiction, to start to sort of understand what she was going through. What was the hardest part of inhabiting that side of Billy Holiday's world? I mean, the hardest part, listen, it took a toll on my family,
Starting point is 00:32:51 right? Because the reality is when you're going through this and you're preparing for it, you're not going through it by yourself. So on my family, on my company, you know, on my staff, on my band, you know, everybody, you know, yes, studying the addiction, lost weight, took up the drinking and the smoking and and and and all the things as well too. I don't typically cuss and I'm not, for me, I've made a personal vow to be abstinent for the last seven, almost seven years. So that's not a side that I engaged in either. I look back on it now was coming out of it. You know, I live as another human being for three years of my life and trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:33:32 who I am in this season of my life has been really, really, really difficult. And I remember a moment actually on set, you know, Lee would ask me, he says, we were doing the song all of me. And he said, throw Billy away, now just give me, and I tried, th., really, really, really, th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We th. We've it, we th. We've it, we've it, we've th. We've th. th. th. I've, th. I've th. I live, we live, th. I live, th. I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I live, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I live, th. I live, th. I live, th. I've, th. I've, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. he said, throw Billy away. Now just give me Andrew and give me. And I tried and I, we got it recorded in the movie, of course, but I genuinely was breaking down from what you see in the film in that moment because I had to look at him and just, I felt like I let him down. Because I don't know who I'm supposed to be cussing, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm s, to, tried, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to yet. But I, so I'm trying to get, you know, a footing in my life now and think about who I am, but you know, God is great and I'm patience and I'll get there, definitely. Well, I'll tell you this. You've done an amazing job at telling this story.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's no surprise that you were nominated. I wish you the best of luck and I can't wait to see what you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you to see to see to to see you to see the to to the to to to the to to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to the and I can't wait to see what you take on after this is all done and after you've found the new Andrew for the next chapter of your life. Yeah hopefully she's great I don't know. You know let you know when I need it. Let me see how that goes. Thank you so much Andrew take care. Thanks to speak soon. The United States versus Billy Holiday will be available on February 26th. All right we're going to to to to to to to to to to th. th. to th. th. to th. th. to th. th. to to to to th. to thoe and the the thoea the thoea the the thoea the thoe. the the the thoe. thoome. I'll the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thuu. I I will thu. I will thu. I will tho. I will thoeananneneneuu. I will will thooooooooooooooooooooooooooenenenneneuuu. Iu. Iu. I will will the. I will thth. All right, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, this month is Black History Month. So please consider supporting an organization called Free Black Therapy.
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