The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Reagan's Recorded Racism & The Origins of Old-School Hip-Hop | Diane Guerrero

Episode Date: August 2, 2019

A recording emerges of Ronald Reagan making racist remarks, Roy Wood Jr. examines early hip-hop, and actor Diane Guerrero discusses immigration and "Orange Is the New Black." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Man, you guys are amazing. I feel like we already know each other. This is amazing. Our guest tonight is one of the stars of the hit Netflix show, Orange's the new black. Diane Guerrero is joining us, everybody. It's going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going going to be a really really a really really really really a really really really really really really really a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really a really really really really really really really really really really a really really really really really really really a really great great great great great great great great great great great great great It's going to be a really great conversation. But before we get into that, the second round of the Democratic debates are officially over. And it was long, it was contentious, and it was the closest we'll ever see a UFC match

set in a retirement home. But now that the debates are over, we can catch up on some of the other news stories that got swallowed up by the debate, you know, because there's so much other news that we don't cover when the debates are happening. So that means it's time for another edition of Another News. their news. Let's kick it up with something fun. Cab drivers in New York are used to seeing some crazy things happen in their backseats. But this next story is easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily easily to.a. to. to. to. to. to to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. A. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to seeing some crazy things happen in their back seats. But this next story is easily at the top of the list. The livery cab driver in Brooklyn could moonlight as a midwife after helping a couple welcome

their baby girl into the world right there in his car. Louis Leonardo couldn't predict the drama that unfolded in his back seat. Picked up two and drop off three. Simple as they always do, when he picked up a couple earlier this month in Bushwick, the woman in labor. I said this in my hand. Oh, f-oh!

And with the baby breathing, the couple wrapped her in a blanket, and Lewis kept on driving. Damn! Damn! Damn! You didn't realize that was the first word that baby heard. Damn! And I hope the parents give that guy five stars because I'm just happy when my driver offers

me like a mint and a phone charger. This guy was cutting umbilical cords. And even though this might not have been the ideal plan for these parents, you have to admit, after being born in a cab, that kid can handle anything in life. Unlike those other babies that are born in like a bathtub while Enya is playing in the background, this is coming like, oh, I'm allergic to gluten, wah. This is a real baby. The only thing that taxi baby is going to be allergic to is people who drive fucking slow. I'm crawling over here! What's wrong when you're your baby?

But let's move on. Because if you think a baby being born in a backseat is the weirdest procreation story you'll hear all week, you might want to think again. There's been some new and disturbing reporting this morning on accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, first from the New York Times, that he believed he could improve the population of the world by seeding the human race with his DNA. Epstein owns a sprawling ranch in New Mexico. According to a new report, he wanted to use the ranch for controlled breeding,

using his DNA to improve humanity. The article reports, Ebstein surrounded himself with leading scientists and would tell them he wanted to have 20 women impregnated at a time on the ranch. Okay, first off, Jeffrey Epstein's sperm ranch is by far the worst flavor of salad dressing I've ever heard of. And secondly, why is it that the people who want to spread their DNA are always the lost people who should be spreading their DNA? Always.

Because nobody's ever looked at Jeffrey Epstein and being like, yeah, we need 20 million more of this guy. That's what we, yeah, like how come Idris Elba doesn't have a sex? Yeah, I'd go. Yeah. And don't say, oh Trevor, Idris Albert can't get a man pregnant. Well I'm willing to find out. And you know like when it started out, this Jeffrey Epstein story was already appalling. But now every day it just keeps getting more and more strange because not only did Jeffrey Epstein to populate the world with his DNA, apparently he also told people that after he dies he wants to be cryogenically frozen, right? They said they want to, he said he wants people to cryogenically freeze his head specifically and get this his penis. Yes, completely true, which doesn't make any sense.

So because now you what, you've got a head and a penis? And no body, how's it gonna work? Or is it gonna attach like the penis to your forehead, like a flaccid unicorn? Is that how it, what? No, I don't get why you'd want to freeze your penis? Have you seen what happens to a penis that's been cold for like two minutes? I don't think it's to hold up well after being cryogenically frozen after 100 years. Eftin is going to be like, all right, I ate that bacon-wrapped date you gave me.

Now where's my penis? What? Why are you guys looking at me weird? There's something on my face? All right, let's move on some other news. Because while Jeffrey Epstein's breeding compound was super grossed, the Earth might not have been such a crazy idea because apparently we came pretty close to saying Bye-bye. An asteroid passed closer to the Earth than the Moon and nobody saw it coming. Asteroid 2019 OK was reportedly undetected as it hurtled towards Earth at a speed of 15 miles per second

before flying past. NASA says it was just 45,000 miles away from Earth on Thursday. Scientists say they missed it because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. Wait what? Scientists missed an asteroid head towards the Earth because it was coming from the direction of the Sun. So we all could have died because these scientists didn't do this? Like, they're all coming from the sun. And you know what's even worse? What's even worse is now these scientists have told everyone. So now all the asteroids know the Earth's blind spot.

Huh? Astroids are going to be telling each other, if we approach the earths from the direction of the sun, they'll never see us coming. Why do asteroids sound German? Nines, the question is, why do German sound like asteroids? Now the scientists, the scientists say this asteroid wouldn't have been big enough to destroy the earth, but it could have wiped out the population of a small city or a normal-sized democratic debate. And I really hope scientists don't miss this kind of thing again. Because if an asteroid is coming, we all need to know.

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God is angry with us. All right, there's been th been th been thua's thua's thua's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I's thi, thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to earthquakes in California. There's been floods on the East Coast, then heat waves, and now an asteroid missed us by this much, this much. And you might be like, oh, Trevor, that doesn't prove anything. Oh, yeah? Well, what about this? In Las Vegas, scientists say the weather has been a factor in bringing on an invasion of grasshoppers. In Sin city, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the insect, it's the insect, it's the insect, it's the insect, it's the insect, it's the insect, it's the insect, the insect, it's the insect invasion putting on a show no one

can escape. A 24-7 onslaught of grasshoppers that really sticks with you. What the heck did you're all covered in locust? I know. You're just covered in them did. For many the first impression felt downright biblical a migrating horde of bugs so big you could even see him from space. Okay can we agree God is definitely pissed off. And of course he's going to hit Vegas first. It's Sin City. The women are all naked, the men are all blue. It's against God's plans, people. And a grasshopper invasion is super gross, although there is a small chance it wasn't an invasion.

Like it could have just been one grasshopper with her bachelorette party. We don't know. Just like, ooh, one last swing before the ring. Oh, this is random. But my favorite part of this story, and this is completely true is that Ugandans saw this story online, right? And this blew up on Ugandan Twitter. Because apparently in Uganda, these grasshoppers are a delicacy. This is completely true.

So Ugandans were laughing at Americans, were like, oh my God, and they were like, we will come there to help you take over their problem. Which is amazing. And you might think that's crazy, but basically it would be like if white people heard that Uganda had a plague of sushi. They'd be on the first plane flying over. They'd be like, I'm going to save them from those crab rolls.

In other news, if I was to ask you in the audience, what's the biggest problem you think the American government should solve right now? What would you say? Anyone? Climate? to the Senate has got your back. A new Senate bill may ultimately affect how much you spend when it comes to time on social media. It's called the Social Media Addiction Reduction Technology Act, or smart act for short. As the name suggests, it is being introduced to fight social media addiction. To do this, the bill will crack down on practices used by social network sites to keep

you online longer, and that includes features like infinite scroll for news feeds and auto play for videos. That's right, a Republican senator is proposing a new law to try and curb social media addiction. And you have to admit that it is becoming a real problem. Social media is messing with our brains. Like yesterday, my buddy tole to to to to to to told told told told told told told told told told told told told told th. thi. the thi. thi. the th admit that it is becoming a real problem. Social media is messing with our brains. Like yesterday, my buddy told me something that I liked, and I just tapped her twice on the forehead.

It's a problem. Now, the senator's bill has suggested a few things, like limits for apps, you know, like how much time you can spend on them, which is fine, but I've got a few suggestions that I think think think think think, think, think, think, think, think, thinks, thinks, thi thinks, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolioliolomea, thiolomea, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, and too, too, too, tooooooomomomorrow, and tooooomoooomooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thii, thi, and, like how much time you can spend on them, which is fine, but I've got a few suggestions that I think would be way more effective. Like I was thinking, how about for every half hour you spend scrolling online, your phone automatically tweets out a picture of what you look like while you're spending all that time scrolling. That's what that should be. Huh? Here's another thing.

If you want to get people off Instagram, we make a new feature where we say, there's every seventh picture on your feed has to be a semi-nude photo of both of your parents. Yeah. Ah, yeah, you see you're lugging off already. Yeah. And I know what you're thinking. You're like, I don't have any semi-nude photos of my parents. Well, I do. I'll send to send to send to send to send to send I'll to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be a to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the the the to be a them. them. th th to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a the the the the the the their their their their their their their th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean.. the. the.... the. the.. the big story that got buried because of the presidential democratic debates.

And it's a story about an American president who is racist. And no, it's not the one you're thinking of. Some surprising audio recordings have surfaced of a phone conversation nearly a half century ago between President Richard Nixon and future President Ronald Reagan. President Richard Nixon recorded himself talking to then California Governor Ronald Reagan in October 1971. The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People's Republic of China. Reagan had phoned Nixon at the White House to vent his frustration at African delegates who watch the thing of television the, they did. To see those, those people from those African countries, and they're still uncomfortable wearing shoes.

The Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation said, if he said that 50 years ago, he shouldn't have, and he would be the first person to apologize. He would be the first person to, he should be the only person to apologize. What does that mean? It would be weird th th th we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th to be weird th th th to be weird tho to be weird to be weird tho to be weird tho to be to be to be to be to be to be tho. tho. tho. tho. thoes tho. to to tho. to to to to to tho. to to to to to th. to to to to to to th. to to to th. to to th. to th. th. th. th. thi thi tho. the the the the thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean.to... He should be the only person to apologize. What does that mean? It would be weird if he was like, well, I'll apologize, but only if those monkeys apologize first. What a strange thing to say. Also, they're like, if he said... There's a recording, he said the thing. So now that that recording has come out, Ronald Reagan will have to be canceled, which is going to be hard because life canceled him first, you know. Oh, it takes a lot of work to cancel a dead person.

You've got to hold a seance, summon their spirit back from the dead. Be like, Ronald Reagan, we have called you back to tell you, bye Felicia. So now, because of these newly released tapes, As do many former presidents, Woodrow Wilson was a segregationist. Andrew Jackson wiped out Native Americans. Thomas Jefferson had sex with his slaves, and George H.W. Bush shot Tupac. Yeah, I said it. Prove me wrong. So on the one hand, it is disturbing

that America has a history of racist presidents. But look on the bright side, it also means that Donald Trump is more presidential than we thought. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about the election. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls?

We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the David show. It's no secret that black people have contributed so much to American culture. Dance, jazz, presidents who aren't embarrassing. But there's one contribution that may be bigger than all the rest. To learn more about that, we turn to Roywood Jr. for another edition of CP Time ti. Welcome to CP Time. The only show that's for the culture today. Today we're going to talk about hip hop. And I mean real hip hop.

Not this new school trap, mumble rap when you can't even understand what they're saying. Hubbita, hubbiter, puckered, pubera, hubbiter. That's not lyrics. That's the sound Fred Flintstone's feet make when he's driving off. His feet just joined Amigos. Now, today we're going to talk about old school hip-hop. Legends like DJ Cool Herk, Grandmaster Flash, Run, BMC. And of course, my short-lived group, Regular Roy and The Trapezoids.

We broke up right after we took that picture. Had a huge argument over what exactly a trap-a-draud is. Didn't record a single track. Kiss my ass, Lee, Le Roy, Le, L, L, L, L, L, L, L, L, L, L, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Lee, Le, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. L-a, th. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. L. H. L. L. H. L. L.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A.A. G. H. H.zo it is. Didn't record a single track. Kiss my ass, Leroy. Tonight, let's discuss some of the seminal moments in the birth of hip hop. Starting with the 40th anniversary of Rappers Delight, the first commercially successful rap song. Rapids Delight got everyone rapping.

In fact, thanks to rappers Delight, hip hop went so mainstream, it even led to stuff like this. And every rapping cat I know you, you're still alive. Ain't that so? Thankfully, hip hop suived that commercial. Barely. Now, rappers Delight might be the reason rap went commercial, but what gave hip-hoppits flavor was unduitably the sound of the record scratch. A lot of people don't know this, but the record scratch was actually invented by accident. A young DJ by the name of Grand Wizard Theodore was practicing in his room when his mother came in and he stopped the record with his hand, which led to this.

That's right. That sound was accidentally created by a young black man trying to avoid an ass whoopen. And now it's the signature of hip hop. It's also the sound of when some shit and gone wrong. The condom had a hole in it. P. What do you mean that wasn't beef? Phbbs.

You may be a dentist, but that ain't my mouth. Puh. Ph-Buh. But before you could scratch on a turntable, you needed a turntable. And that was one of the biggest obstacles for aspiring hip-hop DJs. Turntables were too expensive. Luckily in 1977, an act of God changed the course of black history. A massive blackout hit New York City, and in the ensuing chaos, over a thousand stores were looted.

Now, I'm not going to be the one to say that black people had anything to do with it. But let's just say that the next day, there were a bunch of brand new DJs in New York City. Coincidence, indeed. Now, before you judge those people who looted on that faithful day, remember that looting can lead to some beneficial side effects. Black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black. Black. Black. Black. Black th and in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in in the looting can lead to some beneficial side effects. Black people looted, and now we have hip hop. White people looted, and now we have museums.

If you know damn well, those mommies didn't just walk themselves into that museum. Now that historic night in 77, my Uncle Bebo also took part in the looting. But because of the darkness, he couldn't identify what he was taken. He thought he stole two turn tables. Turns out it was too lazy Susan's. He never did become a DJ, but he could pass the hell out of some ketchup. Well, that's all the time we have for today. But before we go, I want to make peace with the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to make the to make the to make to make the the to make go, I want to make peace with the trapezoids.

Leroy, if you're watching this tonight, I'm sorry that I said a trapezoid is just a square with an attitude. So I'm sorry for having sex with your wife. Well, this has been CP time. And remember, before the culture, Lero kissed my son for me. I'll see in a couple of years. Where were Junior everybody? We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an activist, an author and an actor. Welcome back to the Daily Show.

My guest tonight is an activist, an author, and an actor who can currently be seen in the Netflix series, Orange is the New Black. Please welcome, Diane Guerrero. All right. Welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me. And congratulations on the final season of Orange Is the New Black. Yes. Arguably the show that invented binging. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm glad to be part of that history. You're welcome. Yeah. But. But. You're welcome. But it's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the th. It's the th. It's the th. It's the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. true. true. true. true. true. true. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. the th. th. th. th. th show that invented binging. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm glad to be part of that history. You're welcome. But it's true. It's true. It really was like the first show where Netflix, because before that, Netflix was like that show

where people picked up things here and there. And then Orange's The New Black came out. And it was the show has connected with so many different people? Well, I mean, what the show has tried to do is humanized people's story, people's stories, people especially that have been labeled as criminals, that have been cast away by this label,

people who have been affected inherently by this racist, people who have been affected inherently by this racist and unjust system. And people deserve those real stories. And honestly, it was the first time we got to see a ton of people of color on screen, and people were really excited about that. Thank you. It was, um, it was really a groundbreaking, and is a groundbreaking show because of, you know, just what you said. The way the stories were told were human in a very real way, we learned why people go

to prison, why people stay in prison. You know, some people had a history of crime. Some people were just victims of a moment in their lives. Your character, Maritza, connected with so many people, especially in this season because we saw her or you know we were watching the show and your character gets released on parole and then encounters a different part of America system and that's deportation. Yeah. That was that was like a big story not just for the show but for you to tell why. Yeah, well you see how immigrants kind of have to pay double sentences, right? You pay your, your dues to society. You, you know, people make the the their their their the tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, tons, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, we're their, we're their, we're watching, we're watching, we're watching, we're watching, we're watching, we're watching, we're their their ca.e. We're their ca. We're the pay double sentences, right? You pay your dues to society, you know, people make tons of money off you by you being in

jail and then you pay a second sentence by being thrown back into detention center and then ultimately deported. Right. And we saw that with so many of the other characters on Orange's New Black. You weren't originally going to come back on the show. And then it was really... I thought you meant this show. No, no, no, Orange's the new back.

You really pissed me off last time. No, no, you weren't originally going to go back. I mean, you've been doing other shows and you've been spreading your wings. wonderful to read was why you went back for the final season of Orange. And that was because Maritza's story connected so closely to yours, but in a different way. Yeah. You know, you wrote a book, beautiful book, a memoir about how you came home at the age of 14, and your parents had been deported. And your life changed forever from that point. And the show certainly inspired me, the people that I worked with, inspired me to share my story

, the the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the story, the people that I worked with, inspired me to share my story, to use my voice in this way. I mean, seeing the way people were being affected by hearing these stories, by empathizing with these stories, I felt a sort of a duty to share mine. And the fact that Orange, I don't know, I mean, I don't know if I was an example, or if, if, I'm glad that they took this opportunity to talk about this issue that is affecting us so much. Especially you weren't, you weren't quick to tell the story. That's that's something that I admired is that you know it's not something

that you always worn your sleeve, it's not something that you always worn your sleeve, it's not something that you acted about before. This was a big decision for you to say, I'm going to take my real life and basically portray it on this show. You've also started living that activism, you know, we see you now working with immigrants who are learning about their rights. We're seeing you, you know, lobbying to have laws repealed that have been shown to be unjust. Why? I mean, it seems obvious, but why do you think it's so important and how do you think that message can get out there? Well, I mean, first shows, through art, we can teach so much, through art, we can help people empathize. I mean, I feel like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi that's thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thr-a'er. thr-a'er. thi thi thi the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thea throwneeeeeean. toean. toean. toean. toeanananananananeananeaneaneaneaneaneanea thea theane feel like that's the big problem in this country right now is that I mean obviously that and like money everybody

wants money right? Right. And people want to make money off of human bodies go figure and children in cages. I know I know that's not not to joke about but it's it's important can you repeat the question are we gonna? Yeah no no no is this? This is? I'm the the the. I thi. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. Yeah, no, no. No, no. Sorry, I'm like, I need some water. This is, I completely understand where you're coming from. It's like, it's, no, because this is like a, if you... Ask me the question again. Your question was weird. If you... If you...

I'm saying for somebody who has portrayed this character, character. Yeah. And then we started seeing you live that story in real life. You know, you started becoming an activist speaking to the issues that we saw your character portray. The why of it is what makes it so interesting. Why do you feel it's so important for people to understand the human side of the conversation in immigration? Because, because we're not, the reason why these laws were put in place is because we have disconnected from humanity, right? If you don't know what is going on out there when you don't know how people are living, then you are most likely going to just let these inhumane practices continue going on.

When you label a person, a criminal, then it's so easy to strip them from their humanity, from their due process rights. And we all have due process rights, right? And what you meant, what you asked earlier is, why do we want, what do I want people to get out of this show, out of this story, is that we have terrible policy in place. So right, everybody talks about how Trump is making this worse, how he's, how he's, you know, used immigrants as a scapegoat, but this has been happening for a very long time and laws like the 1996 laws that were put in place that expanded detention centers that we can do process laws in

immigration court and and created more detention programs are laws that we need to get rid of. These are the laws that need to be repealed. We need a new way forward and the way we do that is by all of us coming together and acknowledging that this is a problem we need to abolish the system that we have right now and start a new, right? A lot of people agree with you. No, it's true. Vote for me, 2020.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Who am I? Joe Biden? No, there, there is a conversation in America right now in and around who America is and what America is. What I've always enjoyed about your story is you have told it with nuance. You know there is a duality. You can be an American who is a immigrant.

You can be an American who is Mexican. That's America's story. Right. Everyone needs to be proud of that. Irish, American, Italian, American, etc. When you look at your journey going forward, we see see, their, thia, thii, thi, thi, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is...... the the the the the the the the the the the they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the their. their. their. their going forward, we see the activist, but what do you want to do now? I mean, Orange is the new back, this is the final season. Yeah. What's exciting that you've got, that's not in the world of activism where you're just having a good time and just letting loose. Having a good time? I don't know what that's like. Well look I'm I think that for a long time, I was still, even when I shared my story, even when I came here last time and I talked about my book, I was still holding on to that shame

of having my parents separated, that I actually live through that. And honestly, like, this is the power of community. Since this season has come out, since we have actually witnessed the atrocities that are going on at the border and we're seeing actual human lives be destroyed. I feel like I have so much more support and I'm incentivized to continue going. I want to tell more immigration stories until the cows come home. I don't care. I know people ask me, are you afraid of being pigeonholed?

I'm not. I want to continue with this work. And yeah, I want to have a little fun. Maybe I'll take a trip, I don't know. I love it. Take a few trips, fight for people at the border, fight for the humanity of other human beings. And then come back to be a guest on the show. And talk about it. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and, yeah, yeah, yeah, and, yeah, yeah, and, yeah, yeah, and, yeah, yeah, and, yeah, and, yeah, and, yeah, and, yeah, and, and, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. ta. I. I. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta.. Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you. Always. All seven seasons of Orange's The New Black are available to stream on Netflix right now.

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