The Daily Show: Ears Edition - RFK Jr. Sparks Outrage Over Autism Remarks & Elon Musk Slides Into DMs and Wombs | Nancy Kwan

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Ronny Chieng covers Elon Musk’s mission to have babies over DM, Pete Hegseth’s Air Force diversity purge, RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine coded attack on autism, and proof he has never seen "...Love on the Spectrum." Michael Kosta & Ronny Chieng go head to head over Rory McIlroy’s Masters Tournament takeover, brand-new Barbie Lebron James, Bryce Harper’s on-field gender reveal, and Baltimore's oyster rebrand. Hollywood icon Nancy Kwan sits down to discuss her trailblazing career and new book, "The World of Nancy Kwan: A Memoir by Hollywood's Asian Superstar." They talk about an accidental screen test that brought her to Hollywood, a friendship with Bruce Lee that began in Hong Kong, and Kwan offers her perspective on what the West can learn from the East.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show. I'm Roy Chang. We got so much to talk about tonight. Elon is sliding into your DMs and your wombs. RFK Jr. is on the asshole spectrum. And I watched golf so you don't have to.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You're welcome but first let's check in with the best cabinet ever in another installment of the worst wing what a bunch of losers let's start with health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. seen here greeting a supporter. Always good to meet a fan. But RFK is known for his controversial health ideas like drinking raw milk and adding road kill to the food pyramid. But the conspiracy theory that he's most known for
Starting point is 00:01:25 is that vaccines cause autism. He's basically a health expert the same way Katy Perry is a rocket scientist. You never know how much love is inside of you, how loved you are until the day you launch. I have a teenage dream that she shut the fuck up. So, unsurprisingly...
Starting point is 00:01:46 RFK Jr. brought his anti-vax policies to the administration, and yesterday, he gave a speech about autism, and people are pissed. Comments from Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that are raising eyebrows. During his first news conference, as the nation's top health official, he addressed rising autism rates
Starting point is 00:02:04 while calling the disease preventable. RFK Jr.'s bleak description The first news conference as the nation's top health official, he addressed rising autism rates while calling the disease preventable. R.F.K. Junior's bleak description of people living with autism causing outrage. Autism destroys families. These are kids who will never pay taxes. Wait, that's what you're gonna lead with? Like that's the big tragedy for you?
Starting point is 00:02:28 These poor kids will never know the joy of attaching a schedule K to a 1048. It's not even accurate. I mean, autistic people do pay taxes. Are you thinking of art history majors? But, I mean, please give us more of your expert opinions about what autistic people can and can't do. They'll never hold a job. They'll never play baseball. They'll never write a poem.
Starting point is 00:03:02 They'll never go out on a date. What do you mean they don't date? I mean, does the candy compound not have Netflix? Okay, because David took Abby on a fucking safari to Africa. And yeah, could Connor be a little more open-minded about dating blondes? Sure, but couldn't we all? I mean, everything this guy said is ridiculous. Autistic kids will never write poems? Well, who wants kids to write more poems?
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's something we should be preventing. So it's no wonder why people are pissed at him. Most autistic people can do all that stuff. And even the ones who can are still human beings. Who even made RFK the judge of what makes life worth living? I'm sorry, they'll never know the joy of planting bear carcasses in Central Park
Starting point is 00:03:50 or holding 85% of the world's mucus in their throats. But whatever. This is a huge project he's taking on. I mean, let him spend the next two decades trying to figure it out. By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So you think you're gonna have a pretty good idea, huh? We will know by September. By September, wow, that was quick and very specific. I mean, I ordered a couch that isn't gonna come by then. But good to know when I'm watching the Wicked sequel this fall, I can focus on the plot instead of wondering what causes autism. I mean, why are you even pretending to study it?
Starting point is 00:04:33 We all know you're gonna blame vaccines, okay? This whole thing is more rigged than a golf championship at Maalago. I mean, just look at who we hired to do the research. Kennedy has tapped a previously discredited vaccine skeptic, David Geyer, as a senior data analyst. Geyer was previously fined $10,000 by the Maryland Board of Physicians
Starting point is 00:04:54 for practicing medicine without a license. You know when commercials say nine out of 10 doctors agree? This is the 10th doctor. I mean, this guy looks like the reason second opinions were invented. But enough about RFK, let's move on to Elon Musk. Living proof that autistic people can do anything, including...
Starting point is 00:05:16 including destroy the government. And as far as his dating life goes, Elon isn't lacking there either. According to the Wall Street Journal, Elon Musk followed cryptocurrency influencer Tiffany Fong on X and began liking and replying to her tweets. Around November of last year, Musk sent her a direct message asking if she was interested in having his child,
Starting point is 00:05:44 according to people familiar with the matter. The two had never met in person, Around November of last year, Musk sent her a direct message asking if she was interested in having his child, according to people familiar with the matter. The two had never met in person. Elon, can you just be a normal person and send a dick pic? All right? This is why you should switch the settings on your DMs to followers who don't want to impregnate me only. I mean, you haven't met this person
Starting point is 00:06:06 and you're already trying to raw doge her? Like I have to work up the courage to put the moves on my own wife, all right? Hey, if you're not doing anything later, maybe you could like, I don't know, like kiss or whatever. Nevermind, it's stupid. But let's stop thinking about Elon's sperm
Starting point is 00:06:25 and get back to actual government stuff. Specifically, the Pentagon, where Pete Hegseth, defense secretary and guy whose tattoos are somehow embarrassed by him, just scored another victory in his war on thinking. The Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs has been ordered to purge its library of books related to diversity, equity, and inclusion,
Starting point is 00:06:45 along with some topics related to race and gender. The Naval Academy Library tossed out nearly 400 books, including titles on feminism, civil rights history, and the Holocaust. Speaking of, at the Naval Academy, Hitler's Mein Kampf made the cut and is still available to read. made the cut and is still available to read. That's where you draw the line? Like, yeah, I don't want one of those woke social justice books. I'm looking for more of a beach read. Do you have Mein Kampf? This type of censorship is outrageous and un-American,
Starting point is 00:07:21 and this has got to be the most disgusting thing Pete Hegseth has ever done. If Pete Hegseth would have a bagel with cream cheese, he would drop it, it would land upside down with cream cheese on the floor and he would pick it up. I'm like, wait, is there any hair on there? Oh no. It is so gross and he would just pop it in his mouth. Okay, well I think we just found the cause of autism. This, this, this is the worst thing I've ever heard a defense secretary do and I'm including Vietnam. I know it's caught in everything bagel but you're supposed to draw a line somewhere,
Starting point is 00:07:57 okay? Anyway, this whole anti-DI thing is getting out of control. They're pulling books about minorities out of schools, scrubbing stories about women and gay people from websites, and Disney can't even put out a new Snow White without people trying to deport her. And that's just the beginning. To take advantage of this shift in the culture war, the White House has just launched its own streaming service. Hey movie fans, do you wish your favorite films had less DEI? Introducing the White Tyrion Collection, a new home video service from the Trump administration Get ready for 12 years of what have you Marvel's panther and really hidden figures
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Starting point is 00:09:15 -♪ -♪ Welcome back to The Daily Show. I think I speak for everyone when I say politics drools and sports rules. For a full recap of the biggest stories in the world of jocks and straps, we turn to Sportswar. Get ready for battle. It's time for Sportswar.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Brought to you by Gambit. Gambit now with better odds than the stock market. ["Ball Sacks," by The Bachelorette plays, audience cheers and applauds.] What's up, Ball Sacks? I'm Ronnie Chieng. And I'm Michael Kosta. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other. For example, if I say UFC needs to be more violent... Oh, well then I say fighters need to sell their differences
Starting point is 00:10:05 peacefully with a licensed therapist. Yeah, well, I'd like to introduce you to my two therapists, Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung. Oh, yeah? Well, I should go to therapy. Seeing as how I'm obsessed with your mom. Yeah. Yeah, man, exactly. You need to explore those feelings with a licensed medical professional.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'll send you some names. Hey, let's talk golf, okay? Short game, amateur, handicap, ball washer. These aren't just Ronnie's nicknames. They're golf terms. And this week was a historic one on the links. Tonight, Rory McIlroy is now one of only six golfers to win all four major golf championships. Winning the Masters for the first time.
Starting point is 00:10:45 The kid who grew up in Northern Ireland. Overcome with emotion, winning his first green jacket 11 years after winning his last major championship. Wow, congrats to Roy McIlroy. It took him 11 years to get a new green blazer. And as someone currently serving a 20-year ban from the men's warehouse, I can totally relate. This is totally different, you idiot. Rory was trying to accomplish one of the hardest things in all of sports. You just took a
Starting point is 00:11:13 dump in a fitting room. Well, they guaranteed I was gonna like the way I looked. And breaking a verbal contract has consequences. The point is, I'm happy for Roy McElroy. Oh yeah? Well, I'm not, okay? I don't want to seem happy. Everyone knows that Irish people are at their best when they're depressed. Haven't you ever read James Joyce? Hell no. I'm a Frank McCourt man.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Well, he's Irish-American, dumbass. Check your stats, bro. McCourt was raised in the slums of Limerick, and he spoke to the soul of Irish suffering like no man since William Butler Yeats. Dumbass. Which brings to our eyes, Irish Eyes, Bed of the Night. What will make Roy McElroy cry in public next?
Starting point is 00:11:53 As always, brought to you by Gambling. Gambling. The only thing you're really addicted to is having a good time. And moving on, the NBA playoffs start Saturday. But if you're a little girl with a big imagination like Costa, you also have a reason to be excited. Move over Ken.
Starting point is 00:12:11 LeBron James is a first male athlete to be part of the new Ken Bassiter line of Barbie dolls. Look at him. The message on the back of the box says, a true MVP, our LeBron James Ken Bassiter's doll represents resilience, hope, and pride for the city of Akron. This is the dumbest toy ever.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I hope it comes with a brawny James doll that you're forced to play with even though it sucks. Wrong again, boy toy. I happen to love LeBarbie. He has every, he has what every little girl wants in a doll, pride for the city of Akron. Now they can play until their hearts content
Starting point is 00:12:50 with a middle-aged man dressed like a 14-year-old, no notes. They should expand this to other NBA legends like Dennis Rodman, the worm, the first doll in Barbie history with a pierceable scrotum. Or my favorite, my favorite from childhood, Wilt Chamberlain. There are hundreds of different Barbies and he can have sex with all of them.
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Starting point is 00:13:36 I'll take four beers No tip, but this week Bryce Harper took that to the next level But this week, Bryce Harper took that to the next level. Philadelphia Phillies slugger Bryce Harper is about to take another swing at fatherhood. And he got creative with the baby's gender reveal during last night's game. Harper at shortstop Trey Turner to hand him either a blue or a pink bath before he went up to hit as a gender reveal. He found out right before stepping up to the plate that he'll be having a baby boy. This is awesome. Baseball needs more medical tests revealed during games. I wanna see a runner slide into home
Starting point is 00:14:09 and the umpire yells, you are safe from Tay-Sachs disease. Costa, you're out of your f***ing mind, all right? This is ruining the game. You can't be doing gender reveals at the plate. Gender reveals are supposed to be for a close group of loved ones that you're hoping to injure with explosives. Ronnie, I got your gender reveal bat right here.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Surprise, it's brown since you're a piece of shit. Well, Costa, for those of us who've had sex, this is a disaster, all right? Baseball is the thing you think about when you're not trying to get someone pregnant. Get your family planning out of my sports, okay? Can we please see a baseball story that has nothing to do with sex? Baltimore Orioles double-A affiliate, the Chesapeake Bassox, decided to unveil an alternative team identity to help them gain traction with new audiences. That included the new alternative name,
Starting point is 00:15:06 the Oyster Catchers, along with a brand new logo. This logo, which at least to many seems to depict a baseball glove catching an oyster. Others interpreted it a bit differently. The team took the criticisms to heart, deleting their own announcement within minutes, but later they unveiled a new logo, showing a bird holding a bat.
Starting point is 00:15:25 God damn it. I'm never going to be able to slip and oyster off a baseball glove ever again. And that's the only way I like them. What are you talking about, Ronnie? The oyster logo is great. If anything, the new logo is the one that's perverted. That bird is clearly flying away with some guy's severed penis. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:45 That poor guy, but those lucky baby birds, what a lunch. This whole thing just confirms my belief that baseball teams should get rid of logos entirely, okay? If they're not sexualizing oysters, they're pissing off Native Americans. Every team should just name themselves after their city, like the Philadelphia Phillies, the Boston Bostonies, the Cleveland Clevelandies, the Detroit Titties.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Nothing sexual, okay? I disagree, Ron. All team names should be sexual but educational. Sex ed in this country is a joke, but if the Philadelphia Philopian Tubes play the Cleveland Steamers, well now we're learning. Which brings us to our four carat diamond Bed of the week what baseball mascot will Ronnie have a wet dream about tonight?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Brought to you by gambling gambling tons of cultures sleep outside All right, that's it for sports war join us next time when we debate what act of war John Moran Well should mine for his next celebration. It's gotta be hitting the nuclear button, man. You gotta hit that button. Oh, man. How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:16:52 How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? How do you do that? Welcome back to The Daily Show. Hey, my guest tonight is a trailblazing Hollywood icon who has written a new book called The
Starting point is 00:17:12 World of Nancy Kwan, a memoir by Hollywood's Asian superstar. Please give a very big welcome to the one and only legendary Nancy Kwan. Thank you. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. Thanks for doing? I'm OK. I'm OK. Yeah, so you were born in Hong Kong. Yes. So you speak Cantonese.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I speak Cantonese. No problem. Just speaking. Where are you from? I was born in Malaysia. We're scaring the white people now. We probably should stop there. From Malaysia?
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah, we were discussing how great it is to be in the West. And yeah, so you started in Hong Kong, you're born in Hong Kong, you moved to, then from there, that's kind of where you started acting. And you didn't even start out wanting to be an actor. No, I wanted to be a ballet dancer. I was going to the Royal Ballet, very serious about being a ballet dancer.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I was back in Hong Kong for summer holidays, and they were testing, making screen tests for some of my favorite Chinese actresses for the world of Suzy Wong in Hong Kong. So I went up to the studio to watch my favorite actress at work. And I was standing there, and somebody says to me, you want to do a screen test? I said, no, I'm a to me, you want to do a screen test?
Starting point is 00:19:05 I said, no, I'm a ballet dancer. I'm nothing to do with a... I'm just here watching my favorite actresses. They said, why don't you do a screen test? I said, well, what's that? They said, well, just sit in the chair. So I said, okay. So I sat in the chair, and he asked me questions,
Starting point is 00:19:22 how old I am. And every time he asked me something, I burst out laughing like an idiot. I mean, I laughed the whole way through. And then when I got home, I said to my father, I said, I don't know, but this guy wanted me to do a screen test. And I just giggled all the way.
Starting point is 00:19:38 He said, well, nevermind, you're a ballet dancer, forget it. Few weeks later, I get it. My father gets a letter from Ray Stark, the producer of the World of Superhero. Sorry, what letter, what's that? Uh. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:19:54 You know, one of those, you know. Like a piece of paper? Like a piece of paper. Like a rose? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a contract. They said, well, you like to go to Hollywood for six months, and I even get paid for it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I said, I've also been a student, so I've never been paid. I said, oh, I would love it. I would love it. I've never been to America, and that's how I started. Right, and so that was in Hong Kong. You went to go see your favorite actress, and then you ended up replacing her on No, no. On the movie. Well, no, that was much later.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't... Well, that's how I got this job. I was just, yeah. Oh, okay. But... Standing around as a ballet dancer in Trump. Yeah, and like, you know, both of us, yeah. Yeah, and then that was your first time in America, right?
Starting point is 00:20:41 And then you started doing movies in America. Well, first time I came... This was the 60s. This was the 60s. Right. in America, right? And then you started doing movies in America. Well, first time I came, this was the 60s. The early 60s. Right. Where the studio system was just phasing out.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Right, so this was Hollywood in the 60s in America. Yes. Right, and what kind of drugs were they doing back then? What were you doing? What was I doing? Oh, I don't do drugs. Oh, I don't do drugs either. Okay, good, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Tell me in Cantonese what drugs are you doing. OK, so this is the 60s. This is like golden age, once upon a time in Hollywood, like that period of movies. And you were there right in the middle of it. Yeah, no, the studio system was phasing out, and independent films were coming in. Really, that was an exciting, very exciting time.
Starting point is 00:21:24 OK. Kind of sounds like what's happening right now, too. But I guess history repeats. independent films were coming in. Really, that was an exciting, very exciting time. Okay. And... Kind of sounds like what's happening right now, too. But I guess history repeats. But sorry, yeah, okay, so in the 60s... It does, it does. It does repeat itself. So the studio system was phasing out and then...
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, and independent films were coming in. And so, I mean, I was just caught in that. But Ray Stark had me under contract. So I did quite a few films, you know, for seven years, actually. Yes. Under contract. So I did quite a few films for seven years, actually, under contract and different films. And at that time, you know, with Asian actors, before then, Asian actors did not get the good roles, really the roles that could advance the career.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I guess history really does repeat itself because that's still the case. So we got. No, no, no, no. It's much better now. It's getting better and hopefully. Tell that to my agent, man. All right, I will. And this and these you are mixing with kind of Hollywood icons at this time, right?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Terry Grant. That's right. That's right. I think you will hang out with Dean Martin. Yes. Mr. Blemford. I worked with quite a few of them. Mr. Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Of course. My good friend. Your good friend, Mr. Bruce Lee. Bruce also came from Hong Kong. And Bruce went to La Salle, which is a Catholic school. And I went to Maryknoll, which is a Catholic school, and I went to Maryknoll, which is a kind of a Catholic school, a convent. But Bruce used to hang around Maryknoll
Starting point is 00:22:50 just to look at the girls. Okay. Maybe we shouldn't be talking about that part of the story. He was the cha-cha king of Hong Kong at one time, Bruce. He was a what? Cha-cha king. Oh yes, he was the cha-cha king, yeah, yeah. What was he like, was he a cool guy?
Starting point is 00:23:02 Very cool, very nice, good friend. And he was the one who told me. He said, actually, I worked with him on the Wrecking Crew. Yeah. With Dean Martin and Sharon Tate. And we had Sharon Tate and I had a fight scene, martial arts. So Bruce was called in to show us what to do. And that's how I met him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And when I got to know him, Bruce said to me, you know Nancy, I'm going back to Hong Kong to become a big martial arts star. That's what I'm going to do. And I believed him. Yeah. I mean, he was so determined. Right. And he has such energy and conviction that he was the best and he was. And he introduced martial arts. Yeah. And so introduced martial arts, you know. Yeah, and so he wanted to go back because of a lack of opportunities in America at the time. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:50 But did you also feel that way? Well, I was in the contract, so I was lucky. I was, one time Ray Stark put me in a film where I played an English girl with English parents. So all the actors in England were complaining. I said, what is this Chinese girl or the Asian playing an English girl? And you tell them to shut the f*** up.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And no, I didn't. What did you do? I did the film. Got reviews, good reviews. Oh, you got reviews there. Yeah. Do you remember what film it was? The Wild Affair. The Wild Affair.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It was called. This is why I was so excited to have you on, because you're one of the rare persons in Hollywood and in the world who actually has this perspective on Hollywood. Because you've been there for quite a while now. And you've seen many different eras. A long while.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, a long while. And you've seen kind of, you know, I guess, have you recognized any patterns appearing in terms of the business cycle? Well, I know with Asian actors, and I have a lot of good Asian friends who are actors, very good actors, that never got a chance to really show their talent. And I'm trying my best, all right? But... Keep trying, keep trying. Share it. Oh yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:09 She meant that as a nice thing. You guys read it like she was talking shit. She was saying keep going. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was encouraging. Okay, anyway. But one of the patterns, because, okay, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I think we're all in 2025 now. Is it are the patterns? Because, okay, here's the thing. Like, I think, like, we're all in 2025 now. Is it 2025, Benny? No, no, no. It's not 25. Okay. Okay. But whatever year we're in, we're in a period where we keep thinking of the past. We kind of romanticize the past in terms of films.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You know, we're like, oh, you know, this era of films kind of sucks. The 90s was when the peak of Hollywood, you know, and then we go back to the 80s was when things were cool. And we keep thinking that way. I mean, you are one of the few people who actually live through it all. Is it true that we live in the worst era right now?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Or is it, has it always been the case that we always look back with rose-tinted glasses? I think you're right, both, both ways. Oh, so we suck and we also don't suck. Yes, that's right, exactly right, yes. So what sucks about now? Other than the- Have you seen the films? Yeah, I mean, have I seen them?
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm in some of them, so. Oh, wow. But what do you, I mean, I don't, you don't don't know. Oh, wow. Yeah, but what do you, I mean, I don't know. You don't want to talk shit about anyone, but like, what is like, what do you think is your main problem right now? If you have to say, in general, in general.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I don't think it's main problem. I think audience have changed, you know, the thought. I mean, in the old days, okay? I mean, my days in the sixties. The early 1500s. They did grrr. Yeah. That's me.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Yeah, yeah. No, it's a comedy show. You guys, it's a humor. We got to do that. No, but they, I mean, my favorite director was David Lean, who did great films. Bridge on the River, Quiet, Lines of Arabia. They don't do that kind of films anymore. They really don't. And I wish they would come back to that.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And maybe they will, because everything goes around. That's life, isn't it? Sure. So. It's very Buddhist, very cylindrical. But I don't want to put you on the spot, but do you think there's a reason you could point to why that's the case, that they don't make it like that anymore?
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, it's not a reason. I think it's just a phase. Maybe one day we'll go back to it. I think it's just a phase. Maybe one day we'll go back to it. But now it's just... What do we need to do to get back to that? Do we need people to put down their phones? What is it? I wish I knew. They're trying their best to do films. And films are not... I mean television is taking over. And you know people don't go to movies in the movie house anymore. They don't.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And so that's another reason too. It's their problem. That's a them problem. OK, and then you said that's kind of like the problem. You said that's why we're not in a good era. Why are we in a good era then? Because you said, well, currently it's both. What era are we in?
Starting point is 00:28:01 We're in an era that's bad, and it's also good. This too shall pass. And how do you know? Maybe some great directors, producers will come up with some great ideas and we'll start again, another kind on another level. Okay, well let me put it this way then, because we romanticize the past.
Starting point is 00:28:17 What sucked about the past? So let's get on a record, you know, that what was bad about it? Like what was bad about the era that you were coming through? What did you not like about it? I loved it. Of films, of films. I didn't think it was bad.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Oh, okay, it was perfect. Okay, great. So yeah. No, it wasn't perfect. Okay. But I thought they did very interesting films during my time anyway. And I got a chance to play non-Asian roles. I mean, I played an American Indian and a Western, you know, and I played an English girl, as I said,
Starting point is 00:28:45 or a circus performer with no nationality. So at least I had a chance to do that. Unfortunately, for Asian actors, they're not there yet. You know, I wish we would have more Asian directors, writers, producers writing for Asians, making films for Asians, with great roles for them to play. There's so many talented Asian actors out there. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And sorry, I cut you off a little bit. You're kind of explaining the studio system was ending when you got there. Was phasing up, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 So what does that mean? Like what? Well, they didn't, actors were no longer under contract. They were, you know, getting their agents together, being handled by lawyers, making their own deals. So it was a whole big change in that time. And I don't know if it's good or bad, but I think it's just another phase in life
Starting point is 00:29:41 that we go through and hope, you know, maybe things will come back again. Better, better movies, more interesting movies. So the last thing I wanted to ask you was you were born and raised in the East and you've been working and living in the West for a while now, much like myself. And do you have any comment on this current kind of
Starting point is 00:30:07 civilizational clash between the East and West right now? Is there, like what is your perspective on this thing? I think there will always be political clashes. That's what makes the world interesting. Okay, well then we are in a very interesting period then because shit is going down right now and you know you never know what comes up so oh okay so this is you're saying there's a civil lining to this end of civilization I didn't say it was end of civilization or silver lining okay I
Starting point is 00:30:42 just think it's going through changes. Like life. You're going through changes, aren't you? I am, yes, I am. What kind of? I think my voice is breaking. I don't know. I don't know what's happening.
Starting point is 00:30:55 All right, so. And what are you smoking and what kind of drugs are you? Yeah, I'll tell you in Cantonese after the show, yeah. Promise. So what is your perspective on this East-West thing? Like is there anything you can speak to, anything that the America continues to misunderstand about the East or vice versa, you know?
Starting point is 00:31:15 I think it will always be so. I mean, I really, even like you talk about the East, you know, you come from Malaysia, I come from Hong Kong, and there's Thailand, and there's all these Southeast Asian countries. We're not, not everyone gets on all the time. They don't get along, but we learn to live with each other. And I think it's like the West.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I mean, we have to, we will go through phases, and political things, bad or good, but we learn from it, hopefully. And from those lessons, you know, something good will come out of it, I hope. I mean, I like to look at the good side of things. I really am not a negative person, so. Okay, I think you might be in the wrong era then. Because this is...
Starting point is 00:32:02 Ah, true. Well, you're gonna have the yin and yang, you know, so both. I know, yeah, okay. So I was really hoping for... You're saying that this is... You've seen it go up and down and that we'll come back and we'll be friends again. Always.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Okay, okay. I hope you're alright. I hope so too. I mean I like to think of the positives. Yeah, okay. I got to say thank you so much, Nancy Kwan. I think you're the best. Thank you for representing Asian people in Hollywood. Thank you for making the films that you made. And thanks for coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And thanks for representing all of us with dignity and class. We appreciate everything you do. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hey, the award of Nancy Kwan comes out April 22nd. It's available to preorder now. Nancy Kwan, everybody. We're going to take a quick break.
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