The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Ronny Chieng On Guest Hosting & Social Media Comments

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

In this podcast exclusive, Daily Show correspondent Ronny Chieng chats with segment director Sebastian DiNatale about his experience guest hosting, the challenges of doing comedy in America as an immigrant, and how he approaches stand-up and comedic acting differently. He also weighs in on how he feels about being typecast in film roles, and his disdain for social media. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're gonna be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. Hello everybody. This is Sebastian Dina Tau segment director for the Daily Show and we are back with a nut. You gotta be quiet because I gotta intro you. I know but don't see this side of you. Well don't, okay, okay, okay. I have to introduce you as like a surprise. Today we're here with Daily Show correspondent and guest host for one entire show. And it's interesting because most people got a whole

week to host the other show. But for you, they said, now you know what, this guy, his perspective, he's got about 22 minutes of it. And that's what we need from him. That's including the guest. And it's including the guests, which went very long. And it's Mr. Funny Pants himself, we call him Mr. Ronnie Chang. Thank you. Thanks for having me. This is a side of you I've never seen. Oh, come on now. Oh, please. I'm very polished. Very unlike your day to day. Stop. Stop. that's so fun. So you were a correspondent here for a long. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. And, the. And, the. the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the.time, and you recently hosted, well you're a course, you've been a correspondent here for a long time, but then you got asked to host. Yes, which was very cool. And what was that like? What was your hosting day last?

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And so I kind of, I couldn't have? For me, no, because one, maybe I downplayed it. I didn't want to get in my head too much. And two, if you really break it down, there's not much more other than the topics you're talking about. So as the host, you have to cover everything. But as the correspondent, you get to come in and kind of hit on a very specific topic or segment and then get out. Whereas the host, you're kind of like,

whatever happened that day, it's on you. Right. You got to talk about everything that day. So we're apparently close to a trucest in the Middle East. That's right. daily show host could. Sure, maybe if you gave me the job permanently I could solve this but for now here's what you get. The difference between being a five second kind of joke versus you have to maintain the pace for the whole show so you can't go too hard the whole time you know you have to have a good pace. That flow. You got to have that flow. Whereas the correspondent your only job was to hit a home run any way you could, as much

as you could, just keep hitting it. Yeah. And so for when you went into the host chair, you recognize like there will be some lulls here, there's be some momentum building. Yeah, momentum building. I also, I think the biggest thing on that idea was also like, I have to be more likable as the host. You can't just, I the biggest, I the biggest, I the biggest, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I think, I think, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thi, the, the, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, that, that, thi, thi, the, more likable as the host. I see. You can't just come in and do your correspondent persona. You want to, yeah, you're basically kind of straight manning for the show.

You're kind of straight manning for the show. You want the audience to be on your side? Yes, yes. You want them on your side and you want them slip into like a stand-up mentality in terms of how you were presenting to the audience, how you were reacting to the audience? No. Or was it kind of a different perspective? Wow, that's a very nuanced question. I think like the show and stand-up has always been pretty different. The skill sets overlap, but I think I was trying to channel, not so much channeling stand up, I was definitely

trying to channel everyone I've been watching over the last eight years, Trevor and John and how they would host and how their pacing will go and how they would bring you into stories. You know, I think John and Trevor are really good at bringing you into a story, which again it's different skill set to like hitting a home run. So I was very conscious of trying to bring people into stories of like, hey, this is happening today, this is crazy, and then, you know, making sure the jokes I were doing want to one-dimensional in terms of yelling or just being angry or whatever, I was conscious of kind of being a more multidimensional with the jokes, you know, instead of just being a correspondent character, which sometimes it's one-dimensional and it works because that's the point of it, is that you're playing a one-dimensional character ironically.

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We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches and I know that I listed that fourth but in importance it's

probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, of art is your audience. Okay, right? Yes. You would, especially for comedy, I would imagine, stand-up especially. Yes, yes. They are the instrument that you play, yes. So what happens when we go into this online world of comments, blog posts, reviews?

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But then there's another one which is like kind of more malicious. I see. Whereas they're trying to critique and they're trying to, they're trying to bring you down for no reason. I agree. I don't like the energy. That's where all that's legitimate. I couldn't help but notice you had a great Instagram post of you in front of Times Square. Oh yeah, 14 years ago. Yeah, yeah. With Hannah your then girlfriend, that wife. Yes, yes.

And then another post where it was you nowadays, now, and it's your, you're on Times Square Billboard to promote your Radio City call, which is easier than you think it would be to. No, it's hard to get to Radio City. Real City is hard but Billboard, Times Square Billboard is very dual. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's good to know. So if you're out there and you got money get a billboard. But doesn't, I mean, aside from it being a nice humble brag, Isn't that sort of the proof in the pudding that you don't even really need to address these people? Because you have that... Oh, you're making my point for me.

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Yeah. And sometimes we let that stick with us more, you know? And I'm not just saying this to sound cool, but like, I think I've moved beyond that a lot, you know, in terms of not caring about, you know, and focusing more on like making good stuff, and not overreacting to a minority of people who don't like it. Because like you said, like the proof of the pudding is in what you've accomplished in real life, you know, you've managed you've managed you've managed you've managed you've managed to manage, you've managed, you've managed, you've managed, you've managed, you've managed, you've managed, you've managed to sell real estate. So I must be doing something, right? Yeah. Meaning, when people don't like it, it's my job to not, part of my job is to not overreact to the other, to the, you know, minority of people who don't.

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was I was wondering are you happy that AI is going to take over all of blah like sports illustrated thing just happened and I'm sure did you hear about that no no sports illustrated which just found out most of their articles were written by AI. Really? And the people working there didn't even know about it. The writers working there. So instead of like addressing it, Sports Illustrated, just deleted all of their articles from online that were AI.

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I hope they get paid less. But I guess it'll just make it more, it'll add to the illegitimacy of critiquing, which helps me. Because then I'm like, and then you could be like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, like, th, th, like, th, like, th, th, th, like, th, th, th, like, th, th, th, th, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that, that, that, that, I, I that, I that, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'll that, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I that I that, I that, I that, I th. I th. I th. I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. thi, th. they th. th. th. they'll, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,. That helps you. Because then I'm like... And then you could be like, this review is fake. I could be like, all review is pointless. Yeah, because it's all, you can't separate the good ones or the bad ones, so just ignore all of it. And judge for yourself. And to that point, that's kind of why I think you gravitate towar, real person validation. Yes, yes. That's like a physical, you see a person laughing,

you see that validation or that scorn happening in real time. Yes, yes, yes, 100%. Right, yeah. All right, well, I don't know. We solved the stand-up comedy. But they're so bringing, I didn't know you're gonna bring in the hateful comments. I have so many, again, not a lot of hate. that, I. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, 100, that, that, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, that, that, that, 100, 100, that, 100, 100. that, 100, 100. that, 100, 100. that, 100, 100, 100, 100, that, 100, 100, that, that, that, that, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thanks for joining us here in the studio. Thank you, so hot.

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