The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Rudy Giuliani's Post-Election Desperation | Katy Tur

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

Trevor covers police inaction during the school shooting in Uvalde, TX, Dulcé Sloan examines corporate fear of LGBTQ-friendly ads, and MSNBC's Katy Tur discusses her memoir.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And Katie Tur. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah! What's going on, everybody. Welcome to the Daily Show of Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for shooting in. Thank you for coming out in front of us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Wow.

This feels amazing. Let's do it, everyone. Thank you so much. Wow. This feels amazing. Let's do it everyone. Let's have the butt. Take a seat. Take a seat. We have got a jam-packed show for you tonight. So much news. President Biden has declared a war on gravity. Corporations are gay for pride and someone special is following all of you on Tick-Tock. So, let's do this people. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. All right. Let's kick things off with Tick-Tock. The world's biggest social media site and the app that proves Americans can read subtitles just fine when they want to. Yeah?

Hundreds of millions of people around the world use Tick Tock every day. Because I mean, what else are you going to do while you're pooping, right? But what many Tick Tock users might not realize is Tick Tock is owned by a Chinese company. And now we're finding out that while you're watching videos of people dancing, China might be watching you. Leaked audio from social media company, TickToc's internal meetings, suggests that Beijing has repeatedly accessed data from users here in the US. The recording suggests that TickToc is falling down on its promise to wall off Americans data from its Chinese parent company. With one of the apps researchers telling colleagues, quote,

I get my instructions from the main office in Beijing. Oh no, China's secretly watching all of us on Tick Tock. Now they're going to know, our money doesn't jiggle, jiggle. It folds. But yeah, based on these audio leaks, it looks like Tick Tock's parent company in China actually does have access to our private data, which means the Chinese government probably has access to our private data, which is scary because Tick-Doc knows everything about you. Yeah, tracks what you watch, what

you like, and then it only shows you that stuff. Like if you asked me to see my four-you page, I'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's too personal. Yeah, just look at my nudes instead. Actually, that's a mini-cok. And that's why, if you remember, Donald Trump was trying to ban Tick-Tock a couple of years ago, right? Because the US government realized that China could use this as a tool to influence Americans, and also because Eric kept to their friend requests. And also th also thk, and thi and thi and thi and thi and thi and thi and thi, and thi, and, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-I's, thi, thr-n't, thr-s, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi......... And, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thri. And, that's, that's media that governments don't even need to steal our data anymore, right? We'll just give it to them.

Like back in the day, they have to hack into a database or break into the social security building. Now we're just giving it to them for free. And I blame myself. Yeah, I'm part of this problem. I also took part in that personal information challenge. That was a big mistake. I hope I go viral. All right, let's move on from all the data that you're putting into Tick-Tock to all the data that's coming out of the January 6 hearings. The investigation that will somehow result in less punishment than the Oscars slap.

Last week, we learned mostly about how Trump knew that he had lost. Then we learned about how Mike Pence almost got hanged. And today's session was all about how President Trump and his allies tried to pressure state officials to sign on to his various schemes for overturning the election. Everything from throwing out Biden votes to creating slates of fake electors to even eating the Constitution really fast before anyone could look up the election laws. And one of the people Trump depended on most

in this pressure campaign was Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer, and final boss in a resident evil game. Unfortunately, it seemed like no one wanted to take Rudy's calls. Pennsylvania House Speaker Brian Cutler received daily voicemails from Trump's lawyers in the last week of November. This is Rudy. This is Rudy. This is Rudy. This is really chanis the together because we'd like to discuss, obviously,

the election. Hey, Brian, it's Rudy. I really have something important to call to your attention, but I think really changes things. Cutler felt that the outreach was inappropriate and asked his lawyers to tell Rudy Giuliani to stop calling, but Giuliani continued to reach out. I understand that you don't want to talk to me now. I just want to bring some facts to your attention and to talk to you as a fellow Republican. Oh, wow, that's desperate.

Yeah, Rudy made so many unanswered calls. The iPhone just started labeling him as spam, yeah. And not just his calls, his body, it's 90% spam. And can we acknowledge what a fall this has been? Huh? This man went from being an American hero to now now sounding like a telemarketer selling a coup. If you order now, I'll throw in that chair Abraham Lincoln is sitting on. Yeah. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?

And you know, this is just another example of how historic President Trump really was. Any other time in US history, if the President's lawyer called someone, they would take that call. But when Trump's vampire lawyer called people, everyone was like, tell him I'm I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I tho, I tho, I the, I thi, I thi, I'm throw, to to to told, I'll told, told told told told told told told told told told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, told, they would take that call. But when Trump's vampire lawyer called people, everyone was like, tell him I'm not here. Yeah, tell him I went camping and I died. A bear ate my face, tell them I'm not here. Also, not that I'm encouraging it, because I'm not.

But if you are, going to try and overturn an election, maybe don't leave voicemails. It's a paper trail. Also it's 2022. Text! Who leaves voicemails? You realize how thirsty you're coming off. Hey, it's me again. Come on, Rudy. Just hit him with a quick late night you up for subverting democracy. Eggplon emoji, red hat emoji, vampire emoji.

Come on, Rudy. Come on, Rudy. Keep up with the times. All right, but let's move on. It has now been almost a month since the tragic school shooting in Uvaldi. And while shootings like this are always traumatic, this particular one has been made worse by how the police in Uvaldi have responded. They didn't go in, they waited for an hour. And then, they even, they even, they even, they even, the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, worse by how the police in Uvaldi have responded. They didn't go in, they waited for an hour, and then they even stopped parents from trying to save their own kids. And if that wasn't bad enough, they've been trying to block information about that day from coming out.

And each time more information comes out, we learn why. This morning, the first surveillance image from inside Rob Elementary emerges. The photo showing multiple police officers standing inside the building with rifles and at least one ballistic shield 19 minutes after the gunman entered. This, despite school police chief Pete Aredondo's original claim that the officers weren't properly armed to take down the gunman at that point. Officers didn't enter the classroom and killed the shooter until 58 minutes later. The state's director of public safety, Stephen McCraw, testifying before lawmakers, blasting

law enforcement's response as his department's investigation, uncoversed new evidence about the massacre. He says officers were waiting for keys to enter, but investigators finding the door couldn't be locked from the inside and saying that officers never even tried opening it. Yeah, you know, this story just keeps getting worse and worse. We already knew that they waited far too long to confront the shooter. But now we found out that they lied about not having enough weapons to go in

because it turns out they had assault rifles, they had body armor, and ballistic shields. So I'm sorry, what else were they waiting for? The invincible star from Mario? What was that? Get the fuck out in the room? Like how do they they not go in? You know? Which is by the the the the their, their, they their, they they they their, their, they their, they they they their, they they they they they their, their, their, their, their, they had they had they had they had their, they had their, they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they had they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they had, they had, they had, they they they they their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, told, told, told, told told told told told told told told told the. told their their told their their their their their another thing that we've learned. They didn't even try to get in the classroom. They didn't even try. They told everyone that they had to wait for a key because the door was locked, but the door wasn't locked. They just never tried to open it, which is ridiculous. Which is ridiculous.

Even people waiting outside like a locked bathroom. their thoves, their their, their, thoomterterter. thoomter. thoomter. thoomter. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom?. thoom? We's tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooomorrow, tooom. tooomorrow, told. told, told, told, they're told. told. they're told. told. told. told. told. told. they's was they's was was was was. they's was. they's was. they's was. to they's is th. th. th. th. th. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. told, told, told, told, told. their they's th handle after two minutes, just to be sure, sure. They'll try. But it turns out these cops couldn't do what? Like, what, what, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park took five minutes to learn? They couldn't do that? Just that? And you know what's insane about this whole story? Is how the one time, the one time it would have been appropriate to go in, . the guns in in in the guns in their then all of a sudden they go all rambo on your ass.

Ah, we're coming in, we're coming in. It's another reminder that you can't just trust what the police say. Like, this is one of the clearest reminders. Yes, they're police. Yes, you respect them. But it doesn't mean you just the police said. They should be investigating what actually happened. Because time and time again, time and time again, we learn that cops in America, they basically use the same principle as toddlers. They'll tell the truth, but only if it doesn't get them in trouble. No, mommy the cookies try to eat me. I was just

responding. And no, my body camera wasn't working. Yeah, I turned it off. All right, finally, let's move on to some lighter news. A lot of exciting stuff happened this weekend. Drake dropped a surprise new album. Beyonce dropped a new single. And not to be out done, President Biden had a drop of his own. A scare for President Biden today. When the the to to to the to to the to toe the toe the the toe the toe the toea the toea to be outdone, President Biden had a drop of his own. A scare for President Biden today, when he fell off his bicycle in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware,

the 79-year-old was stopping to talk to reporters when you see there his foot got caught in the pedal guard as he was dismounting his bike. He quickly got to his feet. Later on his way out of church, the president repeated that he was doing just fine and hopped in place several times to prove it. Oh, President Biden. That's just embarrassing. He was just standing and the bike fell over. And you know, it's actually too bad because before he fell over, he was looking kind

of good. Yeah, all of us were like Wow look at him riding that bike and he's 80 years old and then he stops and falls and we're like oh yeah He's 80 years old He's 80 years old and you know it's not just the falling off of the bike that isn't moving, but it's the fact that he thought that hopping? Was gonna reassure Americans that he still got it you know that? that? that that that that that that that that that that that that that that little that little that that that little that that little that little that little th? th? th? th? thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi thi thi's thi's the thi they's they's they's they. they. they. they. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi's thi's thi's thi's they. they. they. they. they. they. they's they's they's they's they's their their the's the fact that he thought that hopping was going to reassure Americans that he still got it. You know, that little, no, because you can see. You can see, when he was hopping, in his mind, he looked like Creed, he was like, yeah, look at me go. Look at me go.

When in fact, his hopping looked like, you know when someone is trying to kidnap a kidnapperperperperperperperperper to get to get to get because his foot got caught in the pedal cage. And knowing America, it means that right now that bicycle is already at Guantanamo Bay. Who do you work for? The Taliban, China, Russia? Kamala? Ah, the silent treatment, huh? Okay, that's how you want to play it? Well, you better start talking soon, or by the time I'm done with you, you'll be a one-speed.

Don't get smart with me, you asshole! Still, though, falling down is always an embarrassing thing, to happen to anyone, never mind a president. Which is why former president, Donald Jolly Trump, he made sure to weigh in. One of the greatest travesties of all is to see a person in the White House who, even after years of political experience, has absolutely no clue how to see a person in the White House who, even after years of political experience, has absolutely no clue how to be the President of the United States. And I hope he has recovered because, as you know, he fell off his bicycle. No, I'm serious. I hope he's okay. Fell off a bicycle. I make this pledge to you today.

I will never, ever ride a bicycle. Every bicycle in the world. Breathe the collective sigh of relief. She's not going to ride us, guys. Thank God. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to write us guys. He's not going to write us. Thank God. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to a quick break,

let's check in on the stock market with our finance expert. Michael Costa, everybody. Michael Costa, everybody. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. What's happening in the market today, Mike? Well, I am crushing the markets. I mean, today I am crushing. And I got a hot tip. And I got a hot tip for you.

And I got a hot tip for you. So pay attention. So this chart, actually before that, pre-tape that, the chart, you know, fallen off a stopped bicycle. You know, he did the hard stuff. That'd be like if you were getting ready to go skydiving and you do the training, you pack your bag, you pack your parachute, you get in the airplane, you take off, you jump out at 30,000 feet, you pull the ripcore, the parachute opens, you land safely, you disconnect the parachute from your bag, you, you take a deep breath and

you pull out of the head. I mean what... All right, what's going on in the market, Mike. Thank you. To the untrained eye, such as yourself and such as yourself, this looks like a stat chart. But actually what this is, is our confidence in President Biden. Okay, now, this is when he fell off a stopped bicycle, okay? And it went low. This scared the hell out of all of us. Okay, now these three little dips right here,

that's when he did those, you know, three little jumps. Is he gonna break his leg? Is he gonna pull a hamstring? Is he gonna tear his ACL? Now, once he got home, sat in a chair, was surrounded by secret service, the confidence began to rise........... the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thuu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th.. th.. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Hea. Hea, theeaugh, thi, thi, thi, thi. Hea, theea, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the confidence began to rise. Speaking of rising, tech. Okay, up, big time. S&P 500, okay, this is tech, if you don't know. S&P stands for surge and protectors, okay? And if you want to be successful in tech, you need at least 500 surge protectors to be a successful company. That's why those small businesses that don't use a lot of electricity never really

seem to make it. Don't forget, I'm an expert here Trevor, okay? Yeah, yeah, so you say. Yeah, speaking of tech, and I got a hot tip coming for you, don't forget. Is the tip coming? It's gonna go. It's gonna go. So, that's think we are as Americans? It's just so lazy that all we care about are followers,

you know, not our own privacy? And it's subjects like that that I talk about at my Tick Tock, at Michael Costa underscore. Make sure you give it a follow. Now, don't forget, that was leaked audio. We know about this because of TickTok's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked's leaked audio's leaked audio. We know about this because of TickTox leaked audio, right? Audio that I did a lip-sync video to on my Tick Tock, which is at Michael Costa underscore, make sure you follow and like. Now look, if you're as outraged about this as I am, I think we all need to

send a message to the Beijing authorities, okay? So here's how we're going to do that. Grab your phone or your computer, go to HTTP colon, backslash, backslash, TickTock.com, okay? And you find Michael Costa underscore, follow me, go to one of my videos, leave a message, and we will not be silenced, and I will let Beijing know that. Okay, got it. Ready for the hot tip? Can we? Are we're trying to get to get the hot tips. Let tip tip tip. Let tips. Let tips. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. ti. Go. Go, ti. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Do. Do. Do. Do. Do. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tot, tot, ti. And, ti. Go. Go. And for the hot tip? Can we? Are we ready for the hot tip? We're still trying to get you followers on TikTok. Let's just get... I've been given a lot of hot tips, and frankly, I'm sick and tired of giving these hot tips away for free,

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Or as it's called in the state of Florida, shh. But while you're out there celebrating pride, don't forget that some of its biggest supporters weren't always on its side. For more, we turn to Dulce Sloan for another installment of Dulcayan. Hello friends, it's June, which means this is the first month of the year where it's just hot enough outside to not be sexy. But in America, we know June also means Gay Pride Month! So I want to wish everyone a happy pride. And I'm not the only one.

This year it feels like every damn company with the logo is going full rainbow. You've probably seen these ads, like Burger King offering whoppers with two top buns and two bottom buns. Listen, it's still bread. And every gay man I know is not eating bread in the summer. They're doing keto and crunches until October. But don't forget, companies weren't always jumping on the pride float, looking like a Lisa Frank trapper keeper. When the gay rights movement first began in 1969, most companies were too afraid to advertise

the gay people. They didn't want to offend the rest of America, especially religious conservatives. They were so uptight they thought pretzels are too sexy. All those twists. Oh, it's so sinful. So companies kept their distance, except for Absolute vodka. Absolute was one of the first big companies to market to the queer community.

Because those Swedes don't give us shit about the religious right. They were like, who cares if the right doesn't like us? All they drink is milk. So thanks to Absolute for being a true ally. I didn't drink the whole thing because I got a work meeting after this and they said I got to be sober this time. Whoo. It's a good year. I didn't drink the whole thing. And they said I got to be sober this thinthey said I gotta be sober this time. Anyway, as gay people became more visible in society,

some advertisers slowly started reaching out into the community until the AIDS epidemic blew up. That's it, company's flame for the hills again. Oh no, what if the gays look at our ads? Like, is that how you get ads? But you know what company doubled down on their advertising during the AIDS crisis? That's right. Absolute vodka.

Mmm. A second half got a kick. Damn. All right. Where was I? Right. By the 1990s the queer community had once again fought its way into greater acceptance. So brands once again tried to dip their toes into the pool

party, but they were still too nervous to jump all the way in. So American advertising entered a phase now known as gay, they. Which sounds a lot like being in a fraternity. Basically it was companies henting at possible homosexuality, like this Volkswagen ad where two dudes are driving in a car and then pick up this dirty ass chair off the sidewalk. So the ad leaves it open to interpretation. Are they roommates? Are they lovers? Are they roommate lovers?

Because that's the worst kind of hookup. You gotta wait for them to to to to to the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their.. their. their. to be. thoomk. to beaq. te. te. I. I. I. I. I. Iaq. I. Iaq. Ia. I, than. I, tooke. I, tooke. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. It. It. It. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, t. It's t. It's, too. It's, too.a.a.a. It's, too. It's tooe.a. It's too.a. It's too. It's too.? Because that's the worst kind of hookup. You gotta wait for them to text you back and finish up in the bathroom. Now a few times during this era, a brand tried to make an outright gay ad, like Beneton and Ikea. And the ad completely won over the religious right and they apologized for everything. Ha ha ha ha! Sike! One IKEA in Long Island even got a their they're a they're a they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're a they're a the even got a bomb threat. What is wrong with these religious fanatics?

They know the furniture isn't gay, right? Plus if there's one place that can reassemble after a bombing, it's an IKEA! Unfortunately for the religious right, but luckily for everyone else, their time was ending. Over the next two decades, Americans started to realize that gay people were just the same as everyone else, except with better abs. And as popular opinion improved, companies finally felt it was safe enough to take gay money. And this time, it was major brands. Amazon started advertising to gay people.

Coca-Cola aired a commercial with two dads during the Super Bowl. And Just Salad even had a big gay salad, which, come on. That was just a regular salad, at least toss some glitter in it. And that brings us to today, when practically every company does Pride Month marketing. But just because every June a business acts like they're auditioning for Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, it doesn't mean their values line up with their tweets. Take AT&T for example. They love to show everyone how much they support pride, while also giving one million dollars to anti-LGBTQ

politicians and packs, or how retailers like H&M are launching pride collections with items made in countries that criminalize homosexuality, which is another reason wearing this ugly ass top should be a crime. And they aren't the only hypocrites donating to anti-queer causes, but hey, why go through all the trouble of listing them here? I'm no hater. Oh, that one too. Okay. Are we done?

Let's make it be sad. The point is, enjoy all those gay whoppers and pink Toyotas, but don't forget what this month is about. Pride is the time to celebrate the right to love who you want and to honor the people who fought to give us that right. Back when no brand was on the right to love who you want and to honor the people who fought to give us that right back when no brand was on their side. Except for absolute. You know what, one of those gay whopper sounds real good about now though. I'm dizzy. Thank you so much for that, don't say Sloan. All right, when we come back, Katie Churl will be joining us on the show.

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news at an early age and her pioneering helicopter journalist parents in her new memoir called Rough Draft. Please welcome Katie Turr. Katie Turr. Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for having me. It's exciting to be here. It is, it's exciting to have you because, you know, your last book went on to become a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations. Thank you.

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really. And I think let's start at the beginning to situate people. Everyone talks about helicopter parents, but you mean actual helicopter parents, but you mean actual helicopter parents when you, no, no, I mean, everyone goes, I had helicopter parents. Just explain that for the people to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, their, their, moments, their, their, their, moments, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their moments, their, their, their, their, their, their, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, moments, No, no, I mean that everyone goes, I had... no, you had helicopter parents. Just explain that for the people to understand, please. My parents, my dad was a helicopter pilot. And my parents had a helicopter news gathering company. And I grew up in the helicopter. I spent more time in the helicopter than I did in my own bed.

I would fly the helicopter alongside my dad. I developed an unhealthy obsession with backyard pools because in Los Angeles everybody had a backyard pool, it seemed, except me. And you were just the person in the helicopter. You know, what's interesting about your story is, in many at what many would argue was the beginning of the 24-hour news cycle. The OJ Chase? That was your dad. And my mom, yeah.

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that but that was sort of their style you know that that was a thing that became synonymous. They did sort of invent it actually so they were if they didn't cover the very first police pursuit it was the second and they were the ones that that changed the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. their their their the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th second. And they were the ones that popularized it. They were the ones that that changed the way news was covered in Los Angeles and then the country and then you could argue the world. It was breaking in the moment. It was now, now, now, no context needed, blow out everything and cover this for as long as we can. You know, it was an easy decision going forward, whatever was happening. It didn't matter. If there was a chase going on, go to that chase, people will watch. It feels like there's one part of us that's like eternally grateful to your parents for, you know, starting this trend and, oh, we get to see what's happening.

On the other hand, it feels like this became the drug that news became addicted to see. They captured the police brutally beating immigrants on the side of the highway. I mean, stuff that the police would have gotten away with had my parents not been there. So they did some incredible things and they won all the awards that there are to win. But they, you could say arguably that they were responsible for the downfall of local news, maybe the downfall of national news, the addiction to reality TV as news. And I do think you could draw a straight line from the way we covered pursuits back then to the way we covered Donald Trump in 2016,

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Bart, etc. And we didn't. And we said we're going to wait until we get the full context of it. They would have used that as fodder to say, hey, listen, we're not going to report on something that was good for Donald Trump. Right. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. th. It's. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. their. th. th. their. their. their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, the other. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their th. And, th. And, their their th. And, th. And, their th. And, their their their their the's another part of the book that I feel is particularly pertinent, not just because of the month we're in, not just because of the time we're in, but because of, I think, life and relationships as a whole. And it's you talking about your relationship with your father, who transitioned and came out as transgender. I don't think I've read an account from a person that is as personal as yours is,

because you talk about being raised by a father who was, you know, struggled with rage, like real anger towards you. It was an abusive household to be in. You were terrified as a child. And then you have this moment where your dad says, hey, no, I'm now she, and call me Hannah, and it becomes his whole journey, and then asks you to throw away the old memories of another person and just live with somebody new. It's a very layered question, but what do you think we can all learn?

Or how did you navigate what has to be one of the most confusing issues happening in society? It was very confusing in the moment. And what made it confusing is that life life life, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and to be to be to be to be to be thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and th, and thi, and th, and th, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, thi, thi, the, theeeei, theaa, theaaaaaaaaaaa. theaaaaaaa, thea, thea, thi. thi. the, th be one of the most confusing issues happening in society. It was very confusing in the moment and what made it confusing is that life is complicated and childhoods are complicated and mine was especially complicated for distinct reasons. I loved my childhood. It was so much fun and there was so much love within my family, but it was also incredibly scary at times. My dad, as you said, would fly into rages. There would be holes in the walls of our house that we as little kids would plaster over to cover up. You know, I hit in a bathroom one time for hours because I was afraid of what my dad might do. He threw things at my mother. And then when he called me, and I used he very specifically because in that, my th. My th. My th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. My th. th. th. My th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tie. the the the to to to to to to to to to to to things at my mother. And then when he called me, and I use he very

specifically, because in that moment my dad was still he to me, when he called to say, I'm not a he, I'm a she, my name is not Bob Tur, Bob Tur is dead. Literally Bob Tur is dead, literally Bob Tur is dead is what he said. I'm Hannah, and we can throw away everything that happened in the past. All of that is gone is that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the, I the, I thii, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I's thi, I's thi, I'm thi, I'm tho, I'm thi, I's that's thi, I'm thi, I'm th, I'm that's that's that's that's, that's, right, that's, because, because, because, that's, because that's, that's, because, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thi, I's thi, I's thi, I's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's thi, that's that's that's thi, that's thi, throw away everything that happened in the past, all of that is gone, that's where the rage came from, the rage will now be gone. I had a hard time with that. And because of the content of what my dad was telling me, and the fact that my dad had been living this life for so long, it made it even harder to navigate because on the one hand, how awful for my dad. How horrible to have to live alive for that long

and to not be your true self. And of course, that's gonna make you a wound up person. And it's gonna break you in some ways. But you were also my father, and you were also somebody who has done a lot of bad things to us and me, my mother. And I can't just throw that away. Right. I don't have the ability to just forget those memories.

And I tried to bring that up, and it just didn't go well. It didn't go well. My dad didn't want to confront it, and I didn't want to let it go. And so now, now we're estranged, and it sucks. I think what I appreciated most about it was it took an issue that many people are trying to turn into this homogenous blob, and it showed us how many individuals are involved in all the stories. No people talk about trans people as if it is one human being that is doing certain things or they talk about gay people as if it and this showed you there are many stories there are many people there are many complications.

People are people. Yeah it's it's a really fascinating book. You shared so much I think everybody's really going to love reading it for journalism, for life, for families, for everything. Thank you so much for joining me on the show. I appreciate you. Thank you. Katie Turner's memoir, Rock Drost, is available now and be sure to watch Katie Reports on MSNBC. We're going to take a quick break.

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