The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Russia's International Space Station Pullout | Molly Burke

Episode Date: July 27, 2022

Pope Francis apologizes for Catholic abuse of Indigenous people, Molly Burke discusses her advocacy for the disabled community, and actor Brian Cox talks about his role on "Succession."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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egos and accounts of the extraordinary power of decency. Listen on the I-Heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. Coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show. Tonight, the Pope's apology tour. Molly Burke. And Brian Cox. This is the Pope's apology tour. Molly Burke, and Brian Cox. This is the deal issue with Trevor Noah. What's going on, everybody, welcome to the day to show.

I'm Trevor Noah. Thank you so much for coming out and watching. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Everyone, thank you so much. We've got a great show for you tonight. Take a seat. We've got so many things to talk about. The Pope is confessing his sins. Russia is now beefing with people in space, and our guest is the Emmy nominated star of succession.

Brian Cox is joining us on the show everybody. So let's do this, people. Let's jump straight into the big stories, let's catch up on a few other things that are going on. First of all, Jeopardy has finally chosen its permanent hosts. And no, it's not Steve Harvey's too busy doing every other game show. It's actually going to be Mayam Bialick and Ken Jennings. Yeah. That's really, to be Mayam Bialick and Ken Jennings.

Yeah. That's really, really great for them. Congratulations to Miami and Ken. Or as your grandfather calls them, not Alex Trebek. Not Alex Trebek. In sports news, the NFL has announced that they are launching their own streaming service, which is fantastic because I'm I don't about you guys, but we just don't have enough of them right now, you know? And this app is apparently going to have all of the preseason games, which is kind of like paying to watch the story part in porn. But I guess that's what some people like. So this is going to be good. In politics news, Mike Pence says he's being treated differently now that he's no longer vice president. threnene. thremin. thre. thre. ththeed. ththeed. ththeed. ththe ththe thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thatthe's th th th th th thi. th th thi. thr-a' thi. th th th th th th th the. th thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. the th. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thr. thr. the. th th the th th th th to to to to th to to the the to the the the the the the the the the the the th th th that he had to recently wait 25 minutes for a table

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Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. And of course, of course, I'm sure you've all heard the sad news after nearly 40 years, Klondike is discontinuing the Choco Taco. Yeah, it's not me, it's them. I know it's not me, it's not me, it's them. I know it's outrageous. The choco taco is the perfect American fusion of cultures. Right? It's Mexican and sugar. And how are you going to get rid of the choco taco before getting rid of the popsicle? Nobody likes those. This is dildoes that give you brain freeze.

Come on. But anyway, let's move on to some of the bigger new stories of the day. And we're going to start off with the Catholic Church, the world's number one manufacturer of atheists. The Catholic Church has made many, many positive contributions to society, in the fields of art, and science and philosophy. And if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have come up with the smoke machines in the club, you know? But the church has also done some bad things over the last say, 2,000 years. Which is why, in a really positive development, Pope Francis is seeking absolution for the church's

sins. On his first full day in Canada, Pope Francis delivered a historic apology for the quote, evil committed by so many Christians against indigenous people. At the site of a former residential school in the Canadian city of Masquiches, Pope Francis was greeted with sacred drumming and dance. Rituals the church once sought to erase for around a century. More than 150,000 native children were taken from their families to attend government-funded residential schools. Most of them, run by the Catholic Church. They faced rampant neglect, physical, and sexual abuse while being forced to assimilate.

It was here, the Pope issued a historic apology. I am here because the first step of my penitential pilgrimage among you is that of again asking forgiveness. Man, you know what, say what you want? I love this Pope. I really do. Yeah, because ever since he's come into office or into power or ever since he's gotten the gig, what do they even say? Whatever it is, he's done a really good job of trying to write the Catholic Church's wrongs. You know, he's reached out to other faiths. He said gay people can get into heaven. And don't forget, he added a pop and lock to the sign of the cross.

You know, he's like, oh me no no no sparrows, oh me no no bea. On top of that, he's apologizing to indigenous people in Canada for the role the Catholic Church played in trying to erase their culture. I'm glad he's doing that. It also must have been a shock to Canadians, you know? Someone coming and apologizing to them? You must be like, I'm sorry?

It's like, no, I'm sorry. Oh, sorry! And you know, beyond the Pope, yeah, the Pope, the Pope, the Pope, the Pope, the Pope, thiiiii and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, to be thi, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. than, than, the Pope, yeah, the Pope is great in all of this, but you know who the heroes of the story are, the indigenous people, yeah, for not just speaking to the Pope, but for forgiving him, even letting him wear their traditional headdress. That was amazing. It was gracious, you know, unless they were just setting him up for a trap. you, let thate-a-goonts, thathea thuuuuuuuuuuuuu that that that that that that that thu, thu, thu, thu, that that that that that that that that that tho that tho tho that that that that that to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their their their their the, the, the, the, theananananan, you're cancelled, moth-ft-ft-up. Got you. Cultural Appropriation. They didn't do that, but it would have been funny. Now, apparently, in addition to the apology, the church has also agreed to pay a settlement for what they did, which I think is fantastic,

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And Africans are like, oh, okay, okay, can't they're already in the crown, the crown, the crown, their. crown, yeah. Oh we can't take it out, we can't. A crown without jewels, that's just a hat, oh yeah. So I'm glad, do something about it. Oh and speaking of people who are going to need to apologize for a lot in the future, Vladimir Putin, back in the news, I guess he's never left, ever since he decided to inherit eastern Ukraine. Russia and the rest of the West really, have been going through the 21st century's most savage breakup. There's been threats, there's been sanctions. And just today, Russia rarely escalates attentions

by making big cuts to the amount of gas that it will send through its pipelines to Europe. Yeah. Now, they're saying that this is because of mechanical issues. Yeah, but I'm sure this is mechanical issues, the same way someone breaks up with you because you deserve better. Yeah, just be honest and say,

you can't see a future with someone who wears crocks to nice restaurants, Debbie! Justin Beaver wears them now. Anyway, on top of all of that, Russia has decided to extend this beef into space. This just into CNN, Russia says this morning that it is preparing to pull out of the International Space Station. That's a big deal. Space Agency official told Vladimir Putin it will leave the ISS quote after 2024.

This withdrawal would be a major blow to the ISS, which has served as a model for international cooperation for decades. Russia says it will start building its own orbiting outpost instead. Wow, Russia is officially pulling out of the International Space Station, which nobody asked them to do. We said pull out of Ukraine, not the space station. This is a Google Translate issue, what's going on here? And you might not realize this, but this is th this, but this, but this, but this is this is this is th th th thi this is actually thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi, for thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theeeeeeei. theiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. theeei. theoi. thi. thi. thi. This is a Google translate issue, what's going on here? And you might not realize this, but this is actually bad news, because Russia helps to operate the space station, which I didn't know about.

No, what I mean? Like, I don't know about you, but am I the only one who's shocked by how many things are connected to Russia in the world? Like the world's energy supply, Africa's food supply, but, but, but, thine, to to to to to to to to thine, to thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, thine, to Russia in the world, right? Like the world's energy supply, Africa's food supply, space travel minerals for our electronics. Soon we're going to find out that Russia provides the sound for sneezes, and without them, we can't complete the action. Huh? No chew for you. And by the way, I don't know why they call it an international space station, when it

doesn't seem very international. It's basically just Russians and Americans up there. They're like 200 other countries in the world. It's not an international space. Like, how come there are no African countries up there? Why? Because we start playing soccer and accidentally kick the ball through the window and everyone would get sucked into space. I mean that's a fair point, but still why? So yeah, the Russians are leaving the space station.

And although they think this is pretty cool, good luck to them making a dramatic exit when there's zero gravity. And so you better remember don't miss Vladimir Putin, unless you want to feel the full force of Madarasha. That's right, you cannot mess with us, ha ha! Okay, can somebody push me toward door? Just push me toward, push me, just push me toward, I want to make a dramatic exit. This, okay, this is not exit I was hoping for. Just, I'm just floating around like idiot right now.

Just, okay, imagine you're crying and I'm gone, bitch. Imagine, imagine the pain. Imagine the pain. All right. That's it for the headlines. But, before we go, let's check in on the traffic with our very own Roywood Jr. everybody! Yeah. What's going on, Roy? What's going on?

What's going on? Good to see how you're feeling for them? Yeah, I feel good, man. It's hot as hell outside. That's hot thrown. It's safe. the same. thanks.

the traffic and stuff, it's much safer when it's hot, like, because that's why people, like, you know, that's why drive-by shootings got invented, because it was too hot to get out the car. When it's less road rage. It's less road, it's less road, it's less road. Don't anybody want to get out the car. Some stuff you just gotta let slide, man. You just gotta let it slide.

Oh, nope, I never- Real quick, man. Russia did what they were supposed to do. What? Russia did exactly what, if somebody at your crib and they're talking shit, just leave. Just leave. If somebody's talking crazy to you, you ain't gotta be around them, man, just get to put to put to put up with nobody talking talking wild to you like that. And plus America's stupid for doing that. We ain't got no space shuttle. We sold our space shuttle so

we ain't got no ride home. Russia was our ride home. How you gonna talk shit to your ride home? And now they gone? It's gonna be a bunch of Americans sitting on the front porch of that space station just Waiting on Jeff Bezos to come pick him up in that dick rocket So You know, you remember the dick rocket Bases had the dick rocket? That's what I don't know. I don't think he calls it a dick rocket, but I know what you mean. I don't know what you mean. I don't think I don't think it. Anyway, what's going on in the d they. they. they. they. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's thi. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. that's. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. toda. t. t. t., I also would have gotten it. You didn't have to include... Anyway, what's going on in the traffic, Roy? Choco Taco was trash.

Let's just be real about that. It's a trash. It was a trash-ass treat, man. It just, it didn't. Like everybody, everybody loves to be sad. my taco taco for me. If everybody who loved choco taco taco bought a chaco taco as much as they talk about how much they love taco taco they still have a damn chaco taco. But you didn't do that. You went and got sorveys and gelatoes. Now your choco taco is damn gone man it was all right. It was beloved. That don't mean it was delicious. It was just alright. It wasn't a classic. It wasn't no legendary ice cream treat.

Let's be real about the choco taco. It wasn't legendary. It wasn't no Nestle Crunchbaugh. It wasn't no Flintstone pushup. It wasn't no ice cream sandwich. The truth of the matter, Trevor, is that most of the foods we love we love, the food, the food, the food, the food, the food, the food, the food, the food, the most of the foods we love, especially ice cream, we just attach to people that we had and built memories with while consuming that treat.

You don't miss the chococco, you miss your father and he's gone. That's what it is. I miss my father. I'm gonna do the traffic. I'm gonna do the traffic. You don't have, no, you don't, Roy. No, no, I'm sorry, you don't, this time you don't have to do the traffic. I'm gonna do the traffic, you have to.

I feel like this went, like, this is a lot of pain right now, Roy. You don't, you don't have have have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to do.. I I I I I I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. this, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm this, I'm gonna do the traffic. You got... I feel like this went, like, this is a lot of pain right now, you don't have to do the traffic. I'm gonna do the traffic, you say. This is weird because you're crying and doing the traffic, it's gonna be weird. So now we're all thinking about your dad and... Are you sure you want to do this Roy? Okay you can as long as you're good. Okay. Oh didn't your dad drive a truck like that? No Roy! Right with Junior everybody.

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Today marks the 32nd anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. And so it's extra appropriate that my guest is popular YouTuber, Tick-Tocker, and Instagrammer Molly Burke. She's a young woman who loves fashion, makeup and downhill skiing. Oh, and she also happens to be a popular YouTuber, Tick-Tocker, and Instagrammer, Molly Burke. She's a young woman who loves fashion, makeup, and downhill skiing. Oh, and she also happens to be blind. Please welcome, Molly Burke, welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you so much for having me. This is such a fun moment for me because I've seen so many of your videos. You aren't just funny, you aren't just engaging, but you dispel so many of your videos, you know, you aren't just funny,

you aren't just engaging, but you dispel so many of the myths around how we see blind people, how we even think about people with disabilities, and I think on a day like today especially, it's really cool to have you here because I'd love to know just like the beginnings of it all. You have, you have a disability. And, you know, you go into the world, not just living your life, but thinking, how do I basically educate idiots? Which is what I feel like you do? I think I've been an idiots about a lot of it. Exactly the goal.

You know, I was diagnosed with a rare eye disease called retinitis pigmentosa when I was four years old. And so at that time, the doctors told my parents, she's gonna go blind, but we don't know when it will be. So I was kind of preparing my whole childhood, and I was slowly losing my vision. And then at 14, I very quickly lost the majority leaving me now only with light and shadow. And at the time, I lost all of my friends. I was very badly bullied, and all of a sudden society started treating me very different

than how I was treated as an able-bodied person. and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I was, and I was, and I was, and I was, and how, and how I was toe, and how I was toe, and how I was toe, I was toe, I was toe, I was thaged, and how I was threated, and how I was threated, I was threateded, and how I was thre, and I was thea, thea, and I was thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, t, t, th, th, th, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-s, thr-augh, th person. And I was really angry for a long time. But in my own journey to recovery, I realized I can either be a victim and sit here and be angry that society does not understand, or I can actively be a part of educating society and taking that ignorance and changing it, and by doing that, hopefully changing the discrimination that disabled people face. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. When you talk about discrimination,

when you talk about discrimination, I hope people understand the levels that it comes on, because it's truly wild to see. For instance, there are people out there who still will say to you, oh, you're faking it. Oh, you're not blind. How come your eyes are blue? This is not a thing.. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is is is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th is th. th is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to is to to to you, oh you're faking it, oh you're not blind, oh how come your eyes are blue, this is not a thing.

And I was shocked to see how many stereotypes we have internalized about blind people just, you know, alone. Talk me through that. How many people think you're just not blind? Oh, I mean, there's whole Reddit threads devoted to dispelling that I'm blind. Somebody said, I know too much about blindness to have never been blind, but that I must have gotten better like it's the flu or something. It's very much not like that. I promise I don't like hold the secret cure for blindness. The reality is most people will never meet a blind person in their

lifetime. And so the only way we access things like blindness or disability in the often through the media. And historically we've had very little representation and when we do it's a lot of misrepresentation because it's written, directed and played by able-bodied people who are changing the narrative. And that's why I tried to take social media and use it as a way to take back the narrative for at least myself. I can't be all blind people, but I can share my story as Molly, my experience. And you know what I love about that is the fact that is exactly what you said is, you've never tried to claim it as your own. You say, hey, I am a blind person and these are some of the things that the blind community faces but this is me. And what I like about that is it reminds us to not see people with people with disabilities. the disabilities, the disabilities, the disabilities, th, th, the disabilities, th, th, to, th, to, th, th. th. to, to, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. You, thin, thr-a, thr-a, the thri. thri. thri. thri. thri. to to to to to to to to thr-a, thr know that you don't have to wear dark glasses.

I didn't know that you can look in the direction that you're speaking. Because again, to your point, I've watched movies my whole life, I go like, oh, I know blind people and it's like, no, I don't, I just watch movies. That's all I basically did. Yes. thrown, I today, I I can tell you that just trying to leave my house with my guide dog is a challenge. I've been a guide dog user for 15 years and sadly the issues are only getting worse because of frankly selfish people

who decide to buy fake service dog beasts and certificates on Amazon and like take their pets places and give real service dog users a bad name and then again because I don't look blind, this stereotype that society has been given of blindness, when I'm like, oh, I'm blind and this is my guide dog, they're like, yeah, uh-huh, I'm sure. And so that's a big issue. So, so what, what, you won't be allowed into, like, what is like, what is it, like, which is so frustrating because obviously I can't drive. So Uber and Lyft is like what I take the most off to.

I'm like, I am giving you so much of my hard-earned coin and you are slapping me in the face by constantly denying me. Yeah, it's sad, it's infuriating, it's ridiculous. I mean, that's why youthe obstacles that are put in place of anybody with with the disability. What I found interesting about your journey though is you also you also find ways to it's not it's not really mock the world but you you exist in it despite the limitations. For instance I was shocked to hear that you will use dating apps like Tinder. How else am I

supposed to find a man in 2022? I mean, I don't know. But I really need to understand, though, like, so like how do you use it? So I use a screen reader called VoiceOver. Okay. And so it reads the bios to me. Obviously, you cannot tell me what the photos look like. So that's where good friends and family come in. And they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that that that that that that that that thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes that that that that that that that that that that that that th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thus thus thus thus thus thus that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th friends and family come in. And they give me the like, okay, you don't want to go on a date. I'm like, got it, got it.

How do they even describe? Like, so I would love to know, like, when you meet somebody, again, this is me just basing it on, you know, the few experiences I've had. And then movies, like, do you even care about what a person looks like, you're looks like, you know, because you'd hear those stories, for instance, you know, from movies that'd be like, oh, Ray Charles would touch people's faces, like, I want to know what you feel like in terms of your face. Do you care? Or is it completely different for you? Most blind people don't feel faces. That is like, a really big movie stereotype. That's what I was one. Majority of us do not. their majority of us do not? Can't th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, theee. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the.'s not a thing. I would do it if I was you because I would get away with it. No, I'm just saying as a comedian I would just do that. I did it once as a joke like one of my friends was like hey I told my girlfriend you feel faces so go with it. And I was like, I like, I like we were all so serious for the whole and she's just standing there like bless her soul just like? Because he told her like go with it she'll be upset if you don't.

If you don't let her touch your face. But you see this is what I mean? These are misconceptions that we have. These are different ideas. If people want to learn, if people want to educate them, if people want to learn, there are so many people out there. There are so many people who are thiiiiiiii obviously, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to do they learn? I mean, social media is like the greatest place to turn to because there are so many disabled people on TickTok, on YouTube, on Instagram, on Facebook, making content, sharing

our life experiences, sharing our day-to-day, how we do things, to show that we can still do what you do just in a different. I. I. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I thheheheheheathe. I their their their their their their their their their their their their is. I their is. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. thi is their to thi. their their their their their their to their their there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there are there is because because because because because because because...... Because, because there. there. there. there. there. there. there. their their their their thi. thi. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to too. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to much for joining me on the show. It's been a wonderful. I'm stretching my hand out to you. Don't move, don't move. I'm stretching my hand out to you to say thank. There we go. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so. Be sure to follow Molly Broke on all the tie. When we come back, Brian Cox, Stay there, don't go yet. I'm going to help you out another time. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.

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and I'm exploring that very question. Join me for my new miniseries on the Art of Fairness. We'll travel from New York to Tahiti to India on a quest to learn how to succeed without being a jerk. We'll examine stories of villains undone by their villainy and monstrous self-devaring egos and will delve into the extraordinary power of decency. We'll face mutiny on the vast Pacific Ocean, blaze a trail with a pioneering skyscraper, and dare to confront a formidable empire.

The art of fairness on cautionary tales. Listen on the IHart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to the Daily Show. My next guest is award-winning actor Brian Cox who plays the Patriarch and Media Titan Logan Roy in HBO's hit drama, Succession. Please welcome, Brian Cox. Please welcome Brian Cox. Mr. Brian Cox.

That was great. Welcome, Brucker, Wotter, Wotter. Mr. Brian Cox. Hello, Trevino. Wow, this is, these are tough interviews for me because I, you know, whenever you speak to somebody who you've admired for so long, you have to try and gather all your thoughts, I have to breathe a little bit. Uh-huh. You, you are easily one of my favorite actors in all of like my favorite movies, you like the just welcome to the show

good to have you it's very nice to be here very nice to be oh no I you know I was just watching that clip and it was very depressing because that's not me and I keep that's why I never watched the show oh really oh no I never watch it because I can't bear this I that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th thy tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the I never watched the show. Oh really? Oh no, I never watch it because I can't bear this, I can't bear that guy. Well, actually, that's not true. I quite like him, but there's an aspect of him that I go, why, you know, why can't he just be a little nicer at time? You know, I think that's why the show is watched the way it is. I remember when succession started. The thing that everybody said to you, all my friends said, have you watched succession?

I said, no I haven't. They said you should watch it. I said, okay, I'm going to watch it. And then they would, they said, you're going to hate everybody. But you won't be able to realize why. Like your character is one of the most gripping characters. He's an asshole, but at the same time we want you to win sometimes, but you shouldn't want to win it. And you are the complete opposite of this character. And I think that's why it works. You bring out something. It's like an empathy maybe in the character. Yeah, I mean I have a lot of sympathy with him. I mean, both he and both he and I are disappointed disappointed and I are disappointed and I are disappointed and I are disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed disappointed Oh wow. We, you know, we think that humans have really screwed the whole fucking thing up, quite

frankly. And it's getting worse on a daily basis, it is. You can applaud as much as you like. It is getting bad. But it is. And we've never been in such a bad time as we are at the moment, what with the Ukraine, and the fact that we've had this ridiculous pink Pinocchio that's been the president here and then we've brought this clown from Eaton who's now finally trying to, I don't know what he's doing, that lying Pratt from London.

And it's just really bad. So both Logan and I, we have a chat occasionally, and we've decided that the human experiment is in a pretty bad place. But you have different ways of responding to it, you know, where, where, you know, you've always been somebody who is fighting for the working class. You're the complete opposite of your character. A lot of people don't know how you grew up. I'm an optimist. I mean, that's the other thing. Logan isn't an optimist. I mean that's the other thing. I mean Logan isn't an optimist. And I do believe that human beings can get better, but they've got to do a lot of work. You've got to work for it. Were you always an optimist even as a child?

Because I've read about your childhood and you really lived a rough childhood. You really did. Yeah. Well, you know, it was rough. the time I didn't notice because I was just getting on with it. You just have to get on with it. You know, you dealt a hand of cards and you go, oh, this is the hand I've got, I see. And what am I going to do with this hand and you do it as best you can. And there's no good moaning about it. And, you know, the things that happened to me, you know, the the the things the things the things the things the things the things that that that that that that that the things that that's the things that's the things the things that's that's the things that's that's the things that's that's the things that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that's that's that. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their the. their the. their theananananananananananananananananananananananannene. that's that's that nice, but at the same time it's also made me who I am. So in a way you have to be grateful for that which is ungrateful. Yes, that makes sense. Yeah, so what has happened to you is the reason you are the way you are today.

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all around you. But the reality is there was mom, there was dad, they did the business and you came out. That's beautiful. I love that. It's interesting how, you know, I've noticed this about you and there are a few other actors, you know, out of the UK where you approach what you do very much in like a working way. You know, it's really interesting, you know, for many American actors, oftentimes it can be like the celebrity and this and that. But with you, you have like a very much like, I go to work, I do the thing and then I go home and you know. And it's also to do with our training training training training with our training with our training with our training with our training to to do with our training to do with our training to do with our training to do with our training to do with our training. You know, we have really great training back home, and it's classical training, so, and it goes a long way back right to Shakespeare and beyond,

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to play this role. I've got to have these teeth taken out and it's going to be so difficult. And you go go go go th you th you th pretend th th to th th th th th th th th th th th to be th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the the the the the the the the and I the the and I'm the' the' the' the' the' the' the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the and doing the and doing the and doing the and doing the and doing to to to to to to to to to to do do tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe and do do do to the and do to do to play this role, I gotta have these teeth taken out and it's gonna be so difficult and you go, pretend, just pretend. I feel like all of that is the culmination of who you are as a human being, you know, it's, it's a young boy who grew up in a world where, you know, he lost his parents and then, and then got into an industry that really turn into a fantastic career and you become such a reputable figure in it. And then on top of that, you've now used that platform to talk about the issues that are still close to you are. For instance, you've got this documentary that you've been making about income inequality.

Money. Money. Money. Money, you know, religion, all religions are kind of like cul-de-sacs in a way. Money isn't. Because money is what really separates people. And those who have it, have it, and those who don't, really don't. And that's what I've been doing over the last two or three months, four months actually. Trying to understand, because because I'm playing this guy, you months, four months actually, trying to understand, because I'm playing this guy, you know, this fella, and because he is so impervious to the whole state of poverty, that it's important to understand the wealth gap that is increasing more and more and more and more, and in the, you know, in, in, in, in the United States. I spent some time in Miami, and that was an experience, and you know, in the United Kingdom and also in the

United States. I spent some time in Miami and that was an experience in a half because there is so, yeah, it really was an experience in a half, because there is a lot of rich people in Miami, but equally there are a lot of poor people, poor people, emigrant people, you know, who clean the rich people's toilets, who do everything, you know, all the menial tasks, and they are treated quite cruelly. You know, a lot of them have, you know, like they're building these whole high-rises in certain parts of Miami, and, you know, people are literally being put out of their homes. You know, they're given six weeks to leave, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, their, you're, you're, their, you're, their homes. And these are people who've got kids in school who has been very hard for them to get their children

to school to do certain things. And suddenly, because they're building these high rises, 50% of them are empty, you know, but it's just greed, it's sheer, f-fiegreed and nothing else. And my most moving things thing thing thing thing things was was was was was was was was things was was was thi thing thi thing thi thing thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thioliolioli, th. And my most moving thing was I was back in my hometown of Dundee in Scotland. And on that, I met this man who he came in, I was working with what they called a Larder Kitchen, where people are poor, but they want to give the dignity of still being able to pay for what they get. So I was interviewing, and I said, this is for your family. the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th and I th, oh, oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, their, their, I thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm th. I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I, I, I th. I th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I th. I'm, I'm, I th. I'm, I'm th. th. thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thrown, I'm thrown, I'm thi, thrown, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi, I'm thi, I was interviewing and I said, so this is for your family and he said, oh no, no, no, this is not for a family. He said, I come here on behalf of these people, older people who live in high rises who can't get out. I said, so what is this you're wearing here? He said, oh I'm blind. That's amazing. I said, what do you mean? I can see that much, I'm really, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm officially, I'm blind, I'm blind, I'm blind, I'm blind, I'm blind. I'm blind. I'm blind. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm blind. th. thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, thi. officially blind. But there's nobody else doing it. So I felt I should do it. And you go, this man's a hero. And that's the thing that's great about human beings. That's when the human experiment goes,

oh wait a minute, hang on. There are a few good people out there who really do these selfless things and it's it's very moving and it's very very humbling. It's humbling it's amazing and I'm so excited to watch it because I think you're one of the best storytellers because you're so engaged and you believe in it. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. All three seasons of succession are available to stream on HBO Mac the documentary will be coming out on Paramount Plus. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Off the B. Thank you. It's been said that Nice Guys Finish Last. But is that really true? I'm Tim Harford, host of the Cautionary Tales podcast,

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