The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Saudi Arabia Gives Trump the Royal Treatment With McDonald's & a Mid-Meeting Nap | Matt Wolf

Episode Date: May 14, 2025

Jordan Klepper breaks down day one of Saudi Arabia’s effort to buy Trump’s affection: Arabian horses, a McDonald’s food truck, some business deals, and a mid-meeting nap. Plus, Michael Kosta is so taken by the Saudis' lavish welcome he almost forgets about their oppression and orchestration of 9/11. Trump's 2024 campaign blitz through right-wing podcasters and influencers bought him a big win among young male voters, so Jordan Klepper sat down with liberal darling and Twitch streamer Hasan Piker to better understand how the Left can find a bridge into bro culture, and how easily men are sucked into the manosphere by social media algorithms.  Award-winning filmmaker Matt Wolf sits down with Jordan to discuss his new two-part HBO documentary, “Pee-Wee as Himself,” which tells the story of the late comedian Paul Reubens in his own words. Wolf explains his goal to create a “portrait of an artist,” which was often at odds with Reubens’s vision, their “barbed” but “fun” dynamic behind the scenes, whether the actor’s passing informed the project, and how the “radical acceptance” of the original “Pee-Wee’s Playhouse” changed his life. For more about the rise of young Trump fans, check out Jordan Klepper's new special, "MAGA: The Next Generation," airing on May 19, right after The Daily Show on Comedy Central.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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International humiliation, one after another. Oh. You know what? Being an American president is hard. People criticize your policies. They nitpick your moral deficiencies. Every time you even suggest removing habeas corpus, people start whining. No, we need that. Boo-hoo.

You know, sometimes you just want to go somewhere where people don't pick apart your flaws, and they treat you like a king Overnight President Trump touching down in Saudi Arabia Escorted by military jets a lavish welcome for his first visit to the Middle East since his reelection The Saudi prince greeted him at the airport and he got a horse escort into the Saudi palace Horse escort I Gotta say when you hear that Trump? A horse escort?

I got to say, when you hear that Trump got a horse escort... ... ... this is the best version of that story. But... but... I got to tell you, Saudi Arabia, oh, man, they went all out. It wasn't just the horse escort. They greeted Trump with a full-brass band.

That was... ["The Horse Escorts"] ["The Horse Escorts"] Really trying their best, you know? And then it was time for Trump to walk down the famous purple carpet. Ah. And so he walked. And he walked. Kept walking.

You know, it feels like he could have stayed in the car for some of the, oh, now we took an escalator. Great, we're done with it. No, we're still walking. Yep, that's fine. It's a cool 108 degrees. This guy can handle it, you know? You know Trump's looking at the carpet going, you know, these things fly here, right?

Don't they show me a whole new world or some shit like that? But look, a horse guard and purple carpets, that might impress the average world leader. But Donald Trump is no average world leader, and Saudi Arabia knows how to cater to a man with such refined tastes. Saudi Arabia had a McDonald's mobile truck come on site

so that President Trump could have his favorite, McDonald's. Oh! Perfect. Perfect. Oh, I got to tell you, it is nice to see they got another use out of the horses once they were done with that old school. It's good to know. It's good. It's good. It's good. You got to head into the Saudis, though.

They know the fastest way to Trump's heart is through his stomach, out the colon, with a little bit staying behind in his arteries. You know, but not everything in the royal kingdom was to Trump's liking. Now, after they arrived, the Saudis served some coffee, but while everyone else drank theirs, Donald Trump just held his in his hand the whole time.

Look at that. Look at that, right? It looks like he was waiting to give a urine sample to the nurse. Yeah, I got to tell you, I get this. Honestly, I get it. Unfamiliar coffee on a trip is risky. One sip is all it takes to go from travelers constipation to travelers, you guys go without me, I'm going to hang out in the room for a while.

Smart move. It's a smart move, Mr. President. You don't want to throw a wrench into that perfect gut biome you've created. Now, that being said, that being said, Trump may be regretted not taking that caffeine shot a few minutes later. Mohammed bin Salman is saying we need a resolution

on a Palestinian state. And I don't necessarily recall several years ago, pre-October 7th, as that being a demand that he had necessarily stated publicly. Do you think his position has changed, or do you think the way he has expressed himself has that changed? Huh? Did I miss myself? Huh? Oh. Mr. President, come on. You can't fall asleep there.

This isn't an intelligence briefing. Come on, man. Look, look, it's not actually a big deal for the president to have jet lag. I'm not so much of an asshole that I make fun of someone for nodding off a bit on a trip. But you know who is that much of an asshole? -"Joe Biden."

The guy can fall asleep instantly with the press watch. Who the hell wants to sleep with these people watching? And he's out cold. You see the dribble coming down the side of his cheek. -"Well, well, well. Look who's sleeping now. Whoo! Well, well, well. Look who's sleeping out. Whoo! Well, well, well.

I tell you what. I tell you what. I tell you what. Joe Biden, you must be loving... Oh, he's passed out. Never mind. Never mind. Of course, it's in the Saudis' interest to give Trump the royal treatment, but I'm sure the President of the United States understands that the Saudi Crown Prince is not without baggage.

Just a few years ago that he murdered an American journalist, so I'm sure the President will keep a healthy distance from the Crown Prince. I like him a lot. I like him too much. That's why we give so much, you know? Too much. I like you too much. Yeah, I agree.

You might like him too much. Regardless, you know what? It was a very nice start to this trip abroad, where he'll visit not just Saudi Arabia, but then Qatar, and then the UAE. But you might be wondering, why did Trump pick these countries for his first foreign trip? Well, there's a strong geopolitical balance of rel-

I'm f***ing with you! Corruption! His sons, who now run the Trump Organization, have lucrative real estate deals in the works in all three countries the president is visiting. Yeah, the Trump boys have projects in all three countries. I never thought I'd say this, but... But can't these countries go back

to doing something more constructive, like funding terrorism? But Donald Trump doesn't see any of these business conflicts as a problem. In fact, if anything, he these business conflicts as a problem. In fact, if anything, he's taking conflicts to a new height, as in heights like the sky. We turn to the uproar over the $400 million gift

from the government of Qatar tonight, a luxury 747 jumbo jet to be used as Air Force One until the end of Trump's term, when the White House says it would be decommissioned and donated to the Trump Library. Yeah. You know, I think we could stop pretending that this airplane is going to be transferred

to his presidential library. This is like the news reporting your aunt is bringing her good friend Linda to Thanksgiving. They're L.A. Coupter, people. That's what's happening, okay? to Thanksgiving. They're L.A. cooter people. That's what's happening, okay? Look, now apart from being a security concern and a potential bribe,

it seems clearly unconstitutional to give the president a gift like this. You know what? What do I know? Attorney General Pam Bondi, what say you? Attorney General Pam Bondi says the gift is, quote, legally permissible and not a bribe because Trump isn't giving Cutter anything in return. There you have it.

There you have it, right? Trump hasn't given them anything, and it's been, like, 36 hours. You know what? I trust her. She's the attorney general. You know, just as a quick fact check, what did she do before she was the attorney general? We should point out that Bondi previously worked

as a foreign lobbyist for the nation of Qatar, earning about $115,000 a month. Oh, right, right. You know, it looks bad, but if you have to understand, that's a lot of money, and money feels good to have and to spend. So now I get it. For more on Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia,

we go live to our very own Michael Kosta. Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael. Michael.

You're embedded with the Trump team. How's it going? Jordan, it's going great. You know, the Saudis are treating us like kings. Five-star hotels, fine dining. I just used the bidet, and whoo-hoo! I wish it was a b-month. I don't know why the Saudis get such a bad rap.

I mean, because they're an oppressive dictatorship that mistreats women, and they did 9-11. Yeah, you know, I was gonna ask them some tough questions about that, and then the free massage started, and Jordan, whoa, Omar used to do interrogations, so he knows how to get deep into that tissue. Now, I usually don't like when men touch my body,

but I know that he's not gay, since over here, that's a crime, right? And that also made me feel a lot better about that happy ending. Okay. Okay. All right, Michael, you know, a lot of people think that the Gulf states are just bribing Trump to get what they want.

It kind of seems like these bribes might be working. Whoa. Jordan bribe? Easy on the B-word, bitch, okay? These countries are just being good friends, and friends sometimes give other friends billions of dollars in crypto and airplanes. I mean, I got you that breadmaker for your wedding, didn't I?

No, no, you didn't give me anything. You just got shit-faced and tackled my grandmother during the electric slide. Well, in my defense, I thought her oxygen tank was a bomb. But point is, maybe the bribes are a good thing. If you want Trump to fix the Middle East, he needs some skin in the game.

You think he's gonna do this pro-Bano? He doesn't give a fuck what the guys from U2 think. Okay, Michael, no. This is the pathway to corruption. If Trump takes bribes, he's gonna favor that country and decisions regarding American policy. Trump's gonna take bribes no matter what. The smart thing to do is make sure he takes bribes

from every country. Then he'll work for every country and we'll all live in harmony. That's why I say, if you want world peace, you got to give Trump a piece. You see what I did there? I spelled it differently. It's clever. It's a play on words.

No, no, no, I see it. I see it. I see it. Look, look. Okay. I got to tell you, Michael, very clever. But this whole thing just... It just doesn't feel good. Well, then, you need to talk to Omar, because he can make you feel real good. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to use the bidet again.

This thing's like a fire hose. I'm practically cleaning my teeth with it. Omar, grab me some towels, buddy. Okay, that's good. Michael Kosta, everyone. We'll come back. I talked with Tom Heifer. Don't go away. -♪ Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop Now in 2024, young voters and most especially young men went hard for a 78-year-old who uses pancake makeup. The bro vote, especially on college campuses, broke heavily for Trump.

Yes, Trump reached voters by engaging with right-wing influencers in what's called the Manosphere. It's a collection of online content and social media promoting bro culture, and it's a space that the left seems to ignore. But someone saw this as a mistake. Were you surprised that so many young people showed up and voted for Donald Trump?

No. Not even a little bit. This is Asan Piker. He's a progressive who has intellectual sit downs with Bernie and AOC, and still manages to post thirst trap workout videos to his 2.8 million followers on the platform Twitch. This combo has liberal media asking workout videos to his 2.8 million followers on the platform Twitch.

This combo has liberal media asking if he is the magical connection to young male voters. This is where you Twitch from. Yeah. What is a Twitch? It's basically like YouTube, but you're live streaming. It's a podcast for people who are like, I wish this podcast were longer. Yeah. Yet his lefty bona fides might have made him a target for Donald Trump's Homeland Security,

which recently detained Piker at the airport. How do you see the left communicating with, like, young men in this time of the manosphere? The left could, I don't know, talk to dudes without vilifying them. There's a lot of anger, resentment, not having any hope for a future, never being able to retire, never being able to own a home.

All of those things are very much of the core identity for the next generation. But is there room for the Democrats to create a left-wing manosphere to talk about the social safety net and protein powder? Absolutely. I think that there is a space for it, but I don't think the left fills that void at all

at this moment. I try to do so, but even I sometimes get hit with it. This is body fascism. Like, Now I have to worry about a new fascism? I'm just getting used to the old fascism. What does even the term body fascism mean? What would you?

I don't fully understand it. I think it's like a lot of leftists hate other leftists. Any sort of consideration about the aesthetics of how you look is actually another way to, I guess, reinforce an unjustifiable hierarchy. And to be fair, that's why I don't work out. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm anti-body fascism,

so people are like, oh, are you lazy? I'm like, no, I'm a socialist with my body. Yeah, no, respect. Yeah. And it's not young men just being drawn to the right. Some technology is giving them a push. A recent study created generic TikTok accounts for imaginary 16 to 18 year old boys

to see how the algorithm acted. And within 23 minutes, they were fed masculine, anti-feminist, extremist content. Life for a man is harder than life for a woman. The hotter a woman is, the more insecure she is about her looks. Your body, my choice. So I was excited to dip my toe into this cesspool.

So I set up this account as a 16-year-old pretending. That's what the pedophile hunters do as well. I'm not in that world. So walk me through some of the stuff we see here. So this is what my algorithm is essentially feeling me. First up, some content from Charlie Kirk. Kirk is a right-wing influencer known for trolling liberals on college campuses.

You said male baristas are masculine. I think you and I can both agree that male baristas are not exactly high, usually high on the testosterone. They are. Wait, pause for a second. But he's a podcaster. He's a podcaster. He's a podcaster. We are doing something very, very not like alpha dog. They mistake being confident for what it means to be masculine.

OK, moving on. Travonta Davis, he's sick. OK, I'm seeing your algorithm. May I gently bury my face in those milkers? This dog, see, there's just so much going on here. This dog want to f**k a woman? Is that what's happening here? I don't know what's going on. Who am I? And I don't know.

Who are you, Jordan? This is this is TikTok makes me very existential. I'm gonna like it. I'm gonna smash that hard. What are these trucks? What is going on? I like this one, though. This is interesting. Me Me, cheap, the only thing I do behind your back is look at your ass. See, this is actually kind of sweet. But it's like, why is it always trucks?

You get dogs that objectify women and also trucks that objectify women. Yeah. Are you a sea lion? Because I would like to see you lying in my bed, sweetie. These dogs. No, no, this is, I'm telling you, this is for, how old are you?

I'm 46. Yeah, this is literally, the TikTok algorithm, I think at some point identified you as a 46 year old man. Wait, you can tell that because it's a dog that wants to fuck me? This is one, like even the first dog one. It knows, it found me that. Now you understand how people find themselves

captivated by right-wing politics. Oh my God, yeah, it was like, oh, I. A lot of people are like emotionally and mentally stunted adults. Yes. Running around, and that's why they think Andrew Tate's awesome. I think we're arriving at how that happened. In the end, young people just want influencers who connect with them, politicians who address their concerns,

and social media that doesn't break their brains. I'll keep scrolling through to see if there's any more dogs that want to... Yeah. Dogs that want that wanna... Yeah. Dogs that wanna pet. Yeah. Thank you, Sean Piker. And for more about the rise of young Trump fans, check out my new special,

MAGA, The Next Generation, airing next Monday, May 19th, right after The Daily Show, right here on Comedy Central. When we come back, Matt Wolfe will be joining me on the show, Don't go away. -♪ Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoophoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo- People are clamoring for it. There's a lot of love for Pee Wee Herman and Paul Rubens. And I think what we just saw in that clip, I want to go right at that. It tells the story of Paul Rubens and Pee Wee Herman and who is Paul Rubens within the story of Pee Wee Herman

and outside of it as well. But what you leave in, you're a part of this. You're off-camera. And in that moment right there, there's a tension between you and Paul. Walk me through. What is happening right there? What was the inherent tension that we're seeing there and the tension you had in making this documentary?

Well, from the moment I met Paul Rubin, he said to me, I want to direct my own documentary. But everybody's telling me I shouldn't do it, and I don't understand why. And I said, well, I'm here to meet with you about me directing the documentary. And that dynamic didn't go why. And I said, well, I'm here to meet with you about me directing the documentary. That dynamic didn't go away.

Yeah. We were a little competitive in the process because Paul was somebody who totally separated himself from his alter ego, Pee-wee Herman. And I was sort of asking him to bring those two things together. So he was a little rebellious in the interview. Well, you coming into something like that, what is the story you wanted to tell? He says you have an agenda in that clip. It's interesting.

What's your agenda? My whole pitch to him is I want to make a portrait of an artist. You know, he wanted to really set the record straight and overcome some of the controversies from his rest. And I said, well, you know, that's the easy part. The harder part is to really look inward. Who are you really as a person who the world doesn't know, even though your character is so iconic? I mean, it's interesting because it feels like

the documentary looks at the arrests and sort of what happened post-Peewee or the initial run of Peewee, but he's reticent in telling that story, even to the point where he avoided you at the end of filming, right? Do you feel like you were able... Like, what did he want to say,

and what was he able to actually reveal? You know, I think Paul felt comfortable talking about his artistry and less comfortable talking about the controversies that surrounded it, but he was determined to overcome those controversies. So I was there to help him do it, but he really wanted creative control. It was a little like, you know, his Achilles heel.

And so we were at odds, and some time went by where we weren't working together. And it was only at the end, before Paul died, that I was able to talk to him, and he wanted to move forward. I didn't know what was going on behind the scenes. Well, this is what's crazy. You didn't... You make it very clear in the back, but you didn't know he was dying.

Paul Rubens was battling cancer at the end for years. But you were unaware of this while you were working with him. No idea at all. Yeah. And then he basically blocks you off for a little while. There was a time where we weren't working together. We were trying to find a path forward, and we couldn't. But fortunately, I was able to talk to him toward the end.

I could tell something was up, but I had no idea of the gravity of it. He was supposed to do a final interview with him the week after he died. Really? Yeah. Oh, I mean, it's heartbreaking. You talk about his stubbornness

and his creative control. You also show a big part of this is celebrating Pee-wee Herman and the character he created, which that creative control allowed him to create something that really is unlike what people see today. I'm a father to a 4 1⁄2-year-old, so I watch a lot of kids' entertainment. It's sort of an antidote to watching CNN all the time.

It's like, you throw on a Bluey, and life is good. And it's curious. Bluey with outstanding. That's a wonderful show. But for most part, they sand off certain edges to it. And you revisit what Paul Rubin was doing with Pee-wee's Playhouse. And it really pushes boundaries.

It's empathetic, it speaks to kids and adults at the same time. It's a show about inclusivity without making that direct focus. Like it still feels cutting edge, revisiting it in your documentary. Yeah, it changed who I am as a kid. You were a fan growing up.

I grew up on Pee-wee's Playhouse. I wouldn't have been able to put words to it, but I think its message of radical acceptance and creativity, it changed who I am. Yeah, yeah. So it was thrilling to be able to work with Paul and to kind of be in his mind. What's happening off camera,

as you have some of those tense moments? You said 40 hours of interviews with Paul Rubin? 40 hours, yeah. There's moments that you show where I see him pushing back on you. And what I'm watching with him, from a performer's perspective, I'm curious as to whether he's being... He's frustrated with you, the director,

or I'm curious if he's playing a character who finds humor in being the foil to the overbearing director. Do you feel like you were talking to a character Paul Rubin's playing a comedic persona even in his conversations with you? Somewhere in between, I think there was a barbed element to our conversations, but it was also fun. Yeah. You know, it wasn't really about me.

I mean, Paul was wrestling with himself to tell his authentic story, and I was just there bearing witness to the whole thing. And we had an incredible time. It was really fun doing 40 hours of interview. But it could be tense, it could be competitive, and he could be slippery and rebellious, but when he snapped into storytelling mode,

he was one of the most riveting people I've ever spoken to. Yeah, yeah. So he passes. And you're already having this dynamic where there's a battle for control over who gets to tell that story. He passes. You have a new responsibility. How does that change how you're putting together a documentary? I mean, it was the largest responsibility

I've ever been given in my life. Did you creatively change, though, what you were imagining? Yeah, I mean, I... You owe his creative vision more after that? Like, did you feel more constrained by that responsibility? No, but I knew that what happened between us

and the circumstances in which the film was being finished was part of the story. So I had to pivot in that regard and also to recognize there were things going on that I didn't know about while we were making the film. But at the end of the day, I wanted to make a portrait of this singular artist, and that didn't change. Yeah. What would he have cut from this film?

I don't know. I can't speculate what Paul would have done. Yeah. Do you think he would have enjoyed seeing it and seeing the response it gets? He can't speak for himself, so I think he would be happy that people are excited to learn his story. Yeah.

What did you learn spending all this time with him that was outside of what you expected coming into it? You know, I learned what it's like to be the subject of a documentary and how scary we are when we come and film you. Yeah. You know? I got some new perspective about how it feels to be on the other side of the camera

because Paul was so forthcoming about it, and I had a lot of empathy for it. Yeah. Well, I mean, somebody who is also so much of the trauma in his life and what you discuss is a media looking at his life, trying to put a story to his life. Do you feel that was embedded in the armor that you had to sort of get through? I mean, Paul had issues of control

because he was a brilliant artist, and all artists are controlling, but he lost control of his narrative in the media. Of course, he was going to be skeptical or cautious around a younger filmmaker like myself. Yeah, yeah, well, it's a remarkable film or multiple-piece documentary. Thank you for putting it on.

The two-part documentary, Pee Wee as Himself, premieres May 23rd on HBO and Max. Matt Wolfe, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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