The Daily Show: Ears Edition - So Much News, So Little Time - Protests Edition | Hillary Rodham Clinton & Chelsea Clinton (Rebroadcast)

Episode Date: November 26, 2019

Washington Nationals fans get rowdy on live TV, Trevor highlights protests occurring abroad, and authors Hillary Rodham Clinton and Chelsea Clinton discuss "The Book of Gutsy Women." Originally aired ...October 31, 2019. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you so much for shooting in and thank dating show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in and thank you for coming out. Happy Halloween, everybody. Let's do it. I'm Trevor Noah, our guest tonight. Chelsea and Hillary Clinton are joining us on the show,
Starting point is 00:01:59 we've got a brand new book. We're going to be chatting about it and everything in the world, also on tonight's show. The world is burning down. The White House is going to the dogs to the dogs to the dogs the dogs to the dog the dog to the dog to the dog to the dog the dog to the dog in the world also on tonight's show. The world is burning down. The White House is going to the dogs and Donald Trump is getting impeached. Yeah, that's right. Give it up for the dogs, yeah. So, let's catch up on today's headlines. Let's begin with the most important news out of Washington today.
Starting point is 00:02:23 The Nationals have won the World Series. The Washington Nationals took home their first World Series last night with a riveting 6-2 victory over the Houston Astros in game number 7. Back in D.C. fans celebrated in the rain, including that one guy right there who ripped off his shirt and dove across the roof. And what are you feeling tonight? Oh my God, I love every Nat's player. And my dad, I wish you were a year. I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I know you're watching Go Matt. And they did it. Amazing. You've been such a gracious fan tonight. Tell me what your thoughts are about this well-there is with. I think this is huge for DC. D.C. needed this. We got some asshole in the White House right now. Oh, wow. Wow. that is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:03:14 D.C. is so political that even the drunk sports fans get involved as well. Like, I wonder if there's bar fights in DC where some guys like, you stepped on my sneaker, I'm gonna beat you like Brown, beat the Board of Education, man. And look at that reporter's face. I love it. I love it. Yeah, that's the face you make when someone starts using your laptop and you realize you didn't clear your browser.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Oh, oh! And by the way, the guy who's, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, the guy, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. the. the. thea. the. thea. the. thea. the. the. thi. thi., that man is my hero. Wouldn't it be great if we could all just express our joy like that all the time? Like, we wouldn't have to wait for sports. We could just do that at work. We get great news, just rip off our shirts like, I'm getting a promotion, yeah! And then your boss would be like, I gave you the promotion, yeah! All right, but let's move on. Because while last night Washington celebrated together, this morning, it was back to the fight. Historic Breaking News, the House of Representatives,
Starting point is 00:04:09 in a near-party-line vote approving a resolution, formalizing the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, and setting the stage for it to go public. Today's resolution permits public hearings, allows staff attorneys to question witnesses, and enables the president or his counsel to participate in the proceedings. That's right, the House of Representatives just took a big step toward impeaching President Trump and Adam Schiff was so happy he tore off his shirt and did a body slide down
Starting point is 00:04:37 the table. Now before you get too excited, please remember that this is just a vote to define the rules for the process of impeachment. Right. They still have to to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote to vote on to vote on to vote on to vote on to vote on to vote on the the the the to vote on to to to to to the the to participate to participate to participate to participate to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the too.c.c.c.c.c.c.c.a.a.a. the the the, please remember that this is just a vote to define the rules for the process of impeachment. They still have to vote on impeachment. Then they vote on the rules for the impeachment trial. Then they vote on whether or not to convict. Yeah, by the time this is all over, the Democrats are going to march into the White House like, Mr. Trump, where's true? the wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. T, th. th. T, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. Be like, oh, well, sorry to bother you, President Kim Kardashian. We're so sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:06 We're so sorry. Goodbye. Seriously, there's like so many steps before you can actually punish an American president. Congress impeaches presidents like white parents discipline their kids. Young man, if you don't listen, I'm going gonna talk to your father and we gonna talk without therapist. Yeah, although I guess all those white kids grew up to run the country, so maybe it's the right approach?
Starting point is 00:05:29 I don't know. And finally, we may not know how much longer Trump will be in office. But if he makes it to next week, he'll get a chance to meet a very good boy. The military dog wounded in the todydek, todyteaidk, t. t. t. t. t. t. tod t. t. tod tod tod tod th. th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho-a, tho-a, thi, thi, thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. toda. today, today, today, today, today, today, thdadi is headed to the White House. President Trump tweeting this photoshopped image of the K-9. The dog was a key part of the Baghdadi raid, cornering the terrorist in a tunnel before the terrorist of course blew himself up. The canine is expected to be in Washington sometime next week. Yes, Conan the hero dog is headed to the White House, and that is going is going to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a a the the to be a the thio. thio. thio. thii. thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the headed to the White House, and that is going to be amazing. Although it might get awkward when he sniffs out someone's secret stash of weed, it's
Starting point is 00:06:10 going to be like, how else am I supposed to make it through the day? HASHTAG BE begged. But I'm not surprised, I'm not surprised that Trump invited the dog, because Trump probably loves this dog, right? Because a dog has all the tryrate their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be, to be, to be, to to to to to to to too................ toe, th.. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thii. thi. thi. thi. thi. to th this dog, right? Because the dog has all the traits, Trump values. It's completely loyal. It won't leak to the press. And they both love giving surprise leg hums. It's just that kind of vibe. All right, that's it for the headlines.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Let's move on to our top story. If you've been keeping up with international news, you probably know that lately the world has been crazier than Rudy Giuliani on LSD. To be honest, there's so many protests going on around the world right now that we just don't have the time to cover them all. Luckily for us, not enough time is just the right amount of time for a segment we call, ain't nobody got time for that. A nobody got time for that. All right, let's kick it off in Hong Kong, where the pro-democracy protesters are also getting into the Halloween spirits.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Well, to Hong Kong now, where police fired tear gas to break up protests on the Halloween holiday. Crowds of protesters booked a major toroid before police came in, the anti-government demonstrations targeted a popular party district in the city for the first time. Well, at times the protesters blended in with people the the the the their their their their their their their their their district in the city for the first time. Well, at times the protesters blended in with people wearing Halloween costumes. Protesters and partygoers alike were not deterred by a citywide ban on face masks. Okay, you gotta admit that's a pretty genius move for the protesters to blend in with regular people celebrating Halloween.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah, because the police can't tell the difference between protesters and trick or treaters. Yeah, sort of like starting a fight club in the middle of Boston. You don't know. Is this an illegal fight? Or just the usual Dunkin' Donuts parking lot fight? You don't know. Now what's interesting is that the protests in Hong Kong, their own. the protests are a lot like arguments in thian thian because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because because their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, too.. to. to. to. their. to. to. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. a protest about Chinese rule over Hong Kong in general. Because, you see, protests are a lot like arguments and relationships. You say it's about
Starting point is 00:08:10 the dishes, but really it's about something bigger. You know, like you don't communicate well, or you hooked up with your mother-in-law, you know? Yeah, you said I should get along with her. Now, if we had more time, we could talk more about the difficulty they had, reintegrating post-colonial Hong Kong into mainland China, but we don't have the time, because Hong Kong isn't the only region trying to move out of its parents' house. Barcelona Spain saw more than half a million pro-independence protesters last week. They're frustrated over the jailing of nine Catalan politicians for their role in the Catalonia Independence movement two years ago.
Starting point is 00:08:49 They don't speak for the majority because the support for independence is not majoritarian. Yes, Spain is in turmoil right now because the region of Catalonia is demanding its independence. And the chaos has been non-stop, although it is Spain, so they take a little siesta in the middle of the fights. That's what they do. I'll be protesting in my dreams. Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 00:09:13 Now, if this feels like deja vu for you, you're not wrong. Boslon experiences these protests every couple of years. In many ways, independence movements are like movies about the Joker. You think they're over, and then boom, there's a new one about a guy who hates climbing steps. I haven't seen it yet. I think that's what this is about. Now with more time, we could get into how this independence movement is driven by Catalonia's feeling that they pay a lot more in taxes than they get back from the central government. But no tenememememememememem. But ten, ten, ten, but the-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-a, their, their, their, their, I their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, the country of Haiti is running out of gas and patience. A crippling fuel shortage is sparking protests in Haiti. Gas stations have been on empty for days. Thousands have taken to the streets to demand the president stand down.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Catholic church leaders have joined protesters calling for political reform. Thousands to a part in a peaceful valley in the capital, Porta Prince. Yes, over in Haiti, a severe fuel shortage has sparked one of the nation's largest protests. And although the music and dancing may confuse you, this is a protest. No, because I know there's at least one white couple they're on vacation that's like, look, honey, it must be carnival. Throw me some beads! That's what I love about being black. I'm not going to lie. Even our protests have rhythm.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Like those people are fighting and it's like, a bobobodod, no, bada, da. Yeah, a lot of people don't know this, but Soul Train started as a protest. That's how it all began. And by the way, if I were in Haiti's government, I'd be very afraid that the Catholic Church has now joined this protest. Because nobody holds a grudge like the Catholic Church.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I mean, it's been like 6,000 years and they're still mad at that snake. They don't play around out there. Yeah? You're like, he gave someone an apple, move on already. And on a day with more time, we could delve into how these protests in Haiti aren't just about fuel, but also about rampant corruption across the Haitian government, but we just don't have the time. Because anti-government protests are even hitting one of the most stable countries in Latin America. Chile. In Chile, a 4% rise in subway fares was enough to bring
Starting point is 00:11:15 a million people to the streets. Stores and subway stations torched. The government forced to declare a state of emergency. While people were in the streets in Tilly, the Chilean president was seen dining at an upscale restaurant. These are the type of things that seem to make people crazy. Yep. While the Chilean people are protesting about not being able to afford basic services, the president was dining at a fancy restaurant. Talk about being toned-deaf. You can't be eating fancy food in front of your struggling people.
Starting point is 00:11:47 You should be using Uber eats. You get that shit delivered. Come on. Now, the frustration in Chile reached a tiping point when the government announced an increase in subway fares, which makes sense, right? These types of moves always affect the working class more because rich people don't need public transportation. They don't know what it's like to be stuck on a hot crowded train sitting next to a subway masturbator. They don't know, no. rich people they
Starting point is 00:12:10 take those fancy limousines with air conditioning and they sit next to a fancy limousine masturbator. Oh la la. Now if we had more time we could tell about how Chile shows that civil unrest is an inevitable thapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapapap-in. their is an their is an th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. They's, th. They's th. thi, thi, thi, thr-a, thr-a. thau. thau. thau-a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, that because we have to make time for one of the biggest protests in the Middle East, where the people of Lebanon took to the streets to demand the removal of their Prime Minister because they accused him of enriching himself at the expense of his citizens. Now the demonstrations have gotten so intense that the most heartwarming things that happened was when a mother and her child found themselves surrounded by protesters. And the protesters noticed the child in the car was freaked out and they worked to make things right. Protesters outraged over Lebanon's crumbling economy completely changed their tune when
Starting point is 00:12:56 they encountered a mother who said her 15-month-old son was scared. The only problem is now that song is going to be stuck in the protesters' heads. It's going to ruin the rest of the protests. They'll be like, labor, non-dood, do-dood, we want reforms, lower tax, do-dood, do-dood, you're corrupt. Now you may have noticed that all these protests all over the globe have things in common. Corrupt governments, social inequality and ineffective leadership, which might be might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might might be might be might be might be might be the the th be th be might be the, which might be the, the, the, the, theck theck that that that that the, theck, that that that that that that that that that that tho--a-a-n, their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the their. their. their, their. the their. the only, the only. the only a warning to all the leaders of the world. If you don't start really listening to your people soon, they might not have time for you either. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:16:10 Does this ever get like tired just walking around and people cheering for you when you walk into rooms? I cheer for her. You cheer for her? Just like solo standing ovation? Well, it is Halloween night, so I think there's a lot of energy in there. No, no, no, I think you get this. I've watched videos of you walking into restaurants together, as a family, I've seen you
Starting point is 00:16:28 walking it alone. I've seen, there seems to be this feeling where you walk around the country and people go, it's a little bit, that's a cool fe-a. Like, that's a cool constellation prize, no? Well, that's true, yeah. It does make up for it a little bit. Chelsea, thank you very much for being here. You came from trick or treating, like now. Yes. You literally just went trick or treating.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Literally. But you didn't dress up as any. You just took the kids. I just took the kids. a Moana, right, a clock striking midnight from Cinderella, okay, and a pumpkin. Oh I like this, I like this. I like this, and pumpkin didn't choose. Because like if you, if you came to my door on Halloween, I'll be like, oh my god, you dress as Chelsea Clinton, that's amazing. I've never really thought that I have like a built-in Halloween costume. Yes, you have a built in Halloween. Yes, you have a built in Halloween where people. th. th. th. to. the their. to be. the their. th. th. th. th. the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the thi. thi. the the the the thi. thi. thi. Because thi. the thi. the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I didn't thi. I didn't thi. Because thi. Because thi. Because. Because. Because. Because. Because. Because. Because. Because. Because, it th. Because, it th. Because, it th. Because, it th. Because, it th. Because, it's, it's, it's, it's, because, it's, it's, th. Because, thi. Because, thi. Because, the thi. thi. thi. the thi. the they. the the they. the the the they. the they. the the thi. a good. You know, sometimes people will say to us, do you know you look just like Hillary Clinton? And I say, yeah, I've heard that.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Let me say, first of all, congratulations on a phenomenal book. I didn't know what to expect. The book of gutsy women. I didn't know if it was going to be a book about American women, a book about women who have changed not just their world but the world in some way, shape or form. What's interesting is that you wrote it together. You've written many books separately, but this was your first book writing together together as a mother and daughter, as someone who's written a book without my mother, I cannot imagine
Starting point is 00:17:55 what would be like to write something with my mother. How do you not hate each other at this point? What was the process like? It was a lot of fun. It also did take some adjustment. Because my mother still writes log hand. Like writes out the words? Although I said this in an event, I could see a teenager up in the rafters turn to his mother and say, what's long hand? Because there's a generation that goes like, what is that? Writing the words out with a pen and no auto correct?
Starting point is 00:18:26 No, and like no ability to track changes or have comment boxes. Right, and you're doing it, like, are you doing it on computer in like a... Yes, like 2019? So how do you... So how do you compare the notes then when you, like, do you bring the longhand into the digital or do you like give it to her and be like you long hand my work? Well, so my mother would take photographs of like each page. Wow. And then text or email me the photographs of the page. Wow. Yeah, so like when we were particularly working on the things that we wrote together, like we write about Rosa Parks and Clotic Colvin together. So I would like type my Clotic Colvin essay and send it to the the, like a word document, and she would take pictures of each individual page of her Rosa Parks essay and send me like page one.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I can feel your frustration as you're telling me this story. I'm still working through it. This is not. I can feel that. Why did you choose to write this book together? I mean, you've had many opportunities. You could have written about anything, your family? thia. thia. to, to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and to, and th and to, and th and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thoes, and thi, and I, and tho, and tho, tho, tho, tho, and, their, tho, their, their, their, the their, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, to me, tooan, too.a.a.a, too.a, th.a.a.a. th.a. th. tho.a, th. And, th. politics, your life, but this is a specific book and it feels like for a specific time. Why? Because we really believe that in today's world, the stories of gutsy women and literally
Starting point is 00:19:33 there are many millions of them, but we chose 103 to write about because their stories tell us yes about the struggles that they endured and their persistence to try to improve their own lives and the lives of people around them. But I think especially in today's world, we need to be reminded of these kinds of stories. And they are historic and contemporary and even a few fictional. And they were women who inspired me as little girl and then throughout my life and the same with Chelsea. In fact, we started talking about inspirational women when she was a little girl. And so we want to share these stories and we hope that people can find some message that
Starting point is 00:20:17 will help them, especially given the difficulties that a lot of people around the world face right now. It's interesting, Chelsea, because you've said, you know, there was a time in your life when you watched your mom running for president and there were more women in space than running for president. Two. Right. And now you have a plethora of women. I mean, you have six in the race. And you've seen how many women participated in the terms, and one, tho, tho, tho, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, to, to, toguuu.u.u.u.u.u.u.u. And, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, the, the, the, their, the midterms and one as well. Do you feel like we're noticing a shift in society that's positively moving us to a place where there's equality, not there yet, but just moving us in that direction?
Starting point is 00:20:50 I think we're absolutely making progress. I also really appreciate how you framed the question, Trevor, because it's super important that we don't get complacent, and that we also understand still how far we have to go. I mean, even though we had an unprecedented number of women run for Congress in 2018, we were still less than a quarter of all declared candidates. Wow. So making progress, but we still have a long ways to go to get to parity. But as we've seen, like who runs for office really matters, because it determines who holds office. And I'm so thrilled that my children are growing up with the most diverse Congress in American history.
Starting point is 00:21:25 You have chosen 103 women in this book who all have different stories of being gutsy, but what would you find was the common thread that made them who they are? One, I think the sense of just deep purpose, sometimes something that they knew for when they were a little girl. Like Jane Goodall always knew she wanted to work with animals. And Sally Ride, you know, the first American woman in space, really became a physicist because she wasn't a good enough tennis player. So she kind of found her passion later in life. But what is so distinctive about all these women
Starting point is 00:21:56 is that they brought others along with them, sometimes consciously breaking down barriers and sometimes just really aware of their example. And I find th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean. tooooi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, their example. And I find that really powerful and gutsy that it wasn't just for themselves it was for others too. It's a beautiful book. We'll be talking more about it and the both of you when we come back from the break. We'll be back with more from Chelsea and Secretary Clinton. Don't go away. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast.
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Starting point is 00:23:14 slash zip. Zip Recruiter. The smartest way to hire. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the Danish trial.
Starting point is 00:24:25 We're joined by Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton and Chelsea Clinton, who co-wrote the book of gutsy women. Hillary, I have to ask you a question that has been plaguing me for a while. How did you kill Jeffrey Epstein? Because you, you, you, you're not in power, but you have all the power. I really need to understand how you do what you do. Because you seem to be behind everything nefarious, and yet you do not use it to become president. What is the game plan?
Starting point is 00:25:04 Well, Trevor. Well, Trevor, Trevor. But honestly though, what does it feel like being the boogie man of the rights? Well it's a constant surprise to me because the things they say and now of course it's on steroids with being online are so ridiculous beyond any imagination that I could have. and now, of course, it's on steroids with being online, are so ridiculous beyond any imagination that I could have, and yet they are so persistent in putting forth these crazy ideas and theories. Honestly, I don't know what I ever did to get them so upset.
Starting point is 00:25:41 But a lot of them live to come up with these conspiracy theories and you know I've gotten kind of used to it. It's been going on for a number of years. Have you ever thought of just like meeting someone who says like, hey, you did this and just looking at them and being like, yes I did. I mean, there must be a little, at some point. It becomes so ludicrous and it becomes so extreme. Well, I've had encounters like that, and many of my friends have had because they've called up people to urge them to vote for me or they've knocked on a door and somebody will say, oh, I couldn't do that because then they launch into one of their big conspiracies. And I had had had had had had had had had the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, I the, I had the, I had the, I had the, I had the, I've the, I've had the, I've had the. the. the. the. thoomomoomoomoomoomoomoom. thoom. the, I had had had had had had the, I had the, I had the, I had the, I had the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I've the, I've the, I've the, I've had toean, I've had toean, I've had toean, I've had toean, I've had toean. thean. thean, I've had theaned. th conspiracies. And I had one friend, one very dear friend, who I literally have known my entire life. And she said she listened to this ridiculous conspiracy about me.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And she said, you know, I've known her since we were in sixth grade. And none of that is true. And this man looked at her and said, but I saw it on the internet. But I also think it's because it is effective. Like I'll never forget reading an article after the 2016 election where the reporter interviewed someone who had been an undecided voter. And he said, you know, he thought my mom had won all three debates.
Starting point is 00:26:53 She clearly had a greater command of the subject matter. And yet he just kept reading that she had murdered 50. And he said somewhat nonchalantly, like, I don't think that she murdered 50. But like, what if she murdered too? And so you just think it's this like constant erosion of truth and sanity. But my favorite, and the one that I do secretly hope may be true, is that my mother apparently adopted an alien in 1993, and I've always wanted a sibling. Maybe, maybe that one will prove up at some point. But you know Trevor, you have to laugh at it because it's so crazy, but on the other hand, we face a serious problem of a lot of these falsehoods and these crazy
Starting point is 00:27:40 stories taking on lives of their own, not about me, but about everybody, and particularly anybody in the public arena. And I have been very outspoken about the decision by Facebook to allow truly false political ads to be run. I want to applaud Twitter for announcing they were not going to let that go forward. And I hope, I really hope Facebook changes their mind because more than half the people in America get their news from Facebook and you. I mean, that's the kind of.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But Facebook is a real issue. We are living in a world where people no longer know what truth is and don't even agree on it, which seems to be a larger issue. You've witnessed the change in politics through many different times. In fact, we're in an interesting period now where the country's gearing up for impeachment. And you are in an interesting position,
Starting point is 00:28:34 where in your life, you have been literally a part of, you have been literally a part of every single impeachment, in some way, the watergate investigations that you were a part of. You then had th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the th th their th th that th you were a part of. You then had your husband who was impeached, and now your political opponent is getting impeached. Do you have the impeachment touch? Is this like a thing? You know, I wasn't part of Andrew Johnson,
Starting point is 00:28:55 but, you know, other than that, it is a strange perspective to have, because I was a young lawyer investigating Richard Nixon. And I am very pleased that the House today is proceeding in such a deliberative manner. They had that vote today about the procedures because that's what happened in 1974. At first the American people looked at the idea that Nixon would be impeached after he won a massive landslide in 1972 and they and they s-well that that doesn't make any sense but as the idea that Nixon would be impeached after he won a massive landslide in 1972, and they thought, well, that doesn't make any sense, but as the evidence came out, and we were literally working 18 hours a day, compiling evidence, making, you know, the legal arguments,
Starting point is 00:29:36 the constitutional arguments. And finally, people realized that, yeah, obstruction of justice, abuse of power, contempt of Congress, are not what we want to turn a blind eye to in our to to to to to to to to th. th. th..... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, that, that, that, well, that, well, well, well, that, well, well, that, that, well, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, th. Well, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, well, well, that's, well, well, that's, well, that's, well, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that, yeah, obstruction of justice, abuse of power, contempt of Congress are not what we want to turn a blind eye to in our country. We need checks and balances. It's one of the reasons why the rule of law is at the core of our democracy. So I know the difference about how the house's power is supposed to work because I was part of seeing it work, I believe in the right way. One of the people we profiles, Barbara Jordan who, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to th, th, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the the the, the, the, the, the the, th, the, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th, the, and thi, and thi, the, and thee, the, throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. We, and the, and the, and the the, because I was part of seeing it work. I believe in the right way. One of the people we profiles, Barbara Jordan, who, if you go to YouTube, you can see her a speech when she voted on the articles of impeachment in 1974 with her defense of the Constitution. And so I'm hoping that now that this is going to move toward public hearings, where people can see these witnesses in person, they can be like a juror themselves trying to decide, that the American people will make a very careful
Starting point is 00:30:31 study of what they're being told. Because the founders put impeachment in the Constitution for a reason. We have elections, but in between elections, if there's behavior that is undermining our country, endangering our national security as the allegations here are, it's an extraordinary remedy but one that has to be exercised in a sober, careful way. It's interesting because America is in a place where it feels like this process and procedure will be tested more than ever before because of how partisan America has become, because
Starting point is 00:31:03 of how toxic politics in America has become. And I was interested in Chelsea because I've noticed a lot of people have asked you why you aren't running for an open seat in Chappaqua. You are a resident of New York State. There is a seat that is open and you have the ability to take that seat in many people's opinion. And you've often said, no, there's other young people who could take it, and everyone said yes, but you would definitely, you know, take that seat and you would run with it and you've said you are interested in changing people's lives.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Do you have a hesitancy to engage in politics because of how your mom has been treated in her life? No, because I see her get up every day and still engage. And so for me, the decision to not even think about to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the to, the to, to, to, the, the, the, to, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, to, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, toe, toe, toe, toe, too, too, too, too, too, too, tooome.e.e.e.e.e.e.s.s.s.s. And, toe. And, to not even think about kind of running for the seat that Congresswoman Nita Lowy will leave at the end of next year is more about an affirmation of what I'm doing now. And I'm thrilled that there are already so many people who have thrown their hats into the ring and I hope that young people don't kind of see the toxicity in this moment and turn away from it.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I hope they see it and say, I want to change that. And I want to get back to a place of science and evidence-based decisions and respect for our democracy and respect for the rule of law. So I hope people take it perversely as an opportunity for what must be different and then be part of the change of doing that. Because it hasn't, you know, it hasn't always been like that. We've had part of partisanship from the very beginning, but there's also been a lot of effort to find common ground.
Starting point is 00:32:36 So back to the Nixon impeachment, when the articles of impeachment were voted on, members of the Republican Party in the Congress voted for one or more of them. So there has been many times, we write about Margaret Chase Smith, a Republican woman senator from Maine, who was the first member of her party to stand up to Joseph McCarthy in the early 1950s. So we've had not only people but a consensus around what it is we're trying to protect and cherish and so I can hope that maybe there will be
Starting point is 00:33:11 enough people who make their decision not on you know protecting the president but protecting the country either way they end up. It's interesting because many of the the women you've written about in the book also share one common trait and that is the obstacles they had to overcome often included being accused of things or being scrutinized in a way that was not similar to the men around them, to their male counterparts. How would you respond to a Trump supporter, if they took the time to listen to you and said, Hillary, I don't think it's fair that Trump that Trump that Trump that Trump that Trump that Trump is fair that Trump is fair that Trump that Trump that Trump that Trump thrue... Trump, thrue. Trump, thrue. Trump, thrue. thrue. thrue. thrown. thrown. thr-i. thr-i. thrue. thr-i. thr-i. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. th. th. thi, th. thi. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thru. thru. thru. thru. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. toeeeeeeeeean. toeeean. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. thr. thr. th. th. is going to be impeached for getting information from Ukraine when your team engaged in Russian information through, you know, the team that worked on that side on the steel dossier. How do you respond to that person when they say, you engaged in foreign information on
Starting point is 00:33:55 a political rival? Trump did the same. What is the difference? There's a huge difference. If you look at the power that the President holds, the President is the President is the President is the the thiiiiiii, thoom, thiuiuiuiuiuiuiuiuiui, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. It's, thi.a. It's, thi. It's, thi. It's, thi, the power that the president holds, the president is in a position to use American leverage and credibility to achieve the goals of our nation. So I could imagine, I could imagine, a conversation where a president would say to the president of Ukraine, you're new at the job.
Starting point is 00:34:24 One of the things that has held you back is corruption. We want to help you fight corruption, but we want evidence to the president of Ukraine. You're new at the job. One of the things that has held you back is corruption. We want to help you fight corruption, but we want evidence that you are really dedicated to fighting corruption. If that's all that had been said, there's nothing wrong with that. As Secretary of State, I used to go and visit leaders and say, you know, one of your biggest problems is you've got rampant corruption. It's in your family. It's in your people around you.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You've got to deal with it. But that's not what happened. And we now have not only the whistleblower and the alleged incomplete transcript, we now have a lot of witnesses who are all saying this was about helping the president himself. He is acting as the president. He's not a political candidate. He is not the thiiiiiiiiiii. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to to thi thi to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th the. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi the the thi the the the the the theeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooo. the. the. the. He is acting as the president. He's not a political candidate. He is not a private citizen. He's the president.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And he said, he works for the United States. And we don't want to squander our credibility. So if other countries see this, as they clearly are, that this president really could care less about Ukraine. Could care less whether it becomes a stable country, could care less whether it's able it's to it's to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend it's able to defend it's able to defend to defend it's able to defend it's able to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to defend to to to to to to to to to to this president really could care less about Ukraine, could care less whether it becomes a stable country, could care less whether it's able to defend itself against Russia. All he wants is for them to manufacture some kind of damaging information about the person he thinks is his likely opponent, Joe Biden. So there's a huge difference. I mean people can
Starting point is 00:35:43 gather you know information in all kinds of different ways, but when you combine it with that quid pro quo that existed in that conversation, which has now been verified repeatedly by people who were in the room, people who were under pressure to deprive the Ukrainians of military aid so they could defend themselves, there's an active war going on in eastern Ukraine. The Russians and their pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro pro th, are are are are th, are th, are th, are th, are th, are th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thiiiiii. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi so they could defend themselves. There's an active war going on in eastern Ukraine. The Russians and their proxies are still killing Ukrainians and so what this president has basically done is say I don't care. I don't care about any of that. I just need some dirt and I don't care if you make it up. In order to get military aid you've got to give me
Starting point is 00:36:22 something on Joe Biden and his son. It really does seem like Trump has taken an unconventional approach, to say the least, in international affairs. He's been very explicitly saying it's America first, and that's all I care about. Syria has been an interesting case. And as a former secretary, you have the ability to speak to this with an in-depth knowledge. Trump said, I pulled the troops out because it's time for America to leave these endless wars. Everyone spoke out against Trump for doing this.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But it was one of your former ambassadors, Robert Ford, who said at one point that the alliance with the Kurds was never meant to be permanent. It was just meant to be a temporary coming together because both sides wanted to beat ISIS and they were were the th were the thoan were th and th were the th. th. they weren't allies of all time. What do you think is the more correct approach them? Look, I don't think his real philosophy is America first. I think it's Trump first. And he judges everything as to how it will help him. And perhaps he impulsively decided that bringing our troops home was good for him politically,
Starting point is 00:37:23 and that seems to be how he is justifying it. But let's assume we had a president who was interested in achieving that goal in a defensible way. Here's what could have happened. He could have very well have said to the people who know something about Syria, the Kurds, the Turks and others and said, you know, we need to start a process in order to figure out how we can protect the Kurds who have been our allies. Maybe not for all time, but they sure have been sacrificing on behalf of our objective to drive the Islamic State out of Syria, and we know they're holding tens of thousands of prisoners for us. So let's not leave them to their to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their.a. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Wee. Wee. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, tea. tea. tea. tea. tea. tea.ea.a.ea. toea.a. toea. their, their, their. the Syria, and we know they're holding tens of thousands of prisoners
Starting point is 00:38:06 for us. So let's not leave them to their fates. Let's figure out how we work with the Turks who are worried about their border. Let's see how we work with the Kurds. Let's use the leverage we have, because we still have troops that are special forces who are working alongside the Kurds, and let's figure out how we're going to make this happen. Instead of just waking up and walking to the South Lawn of the White House and say, we're
Starting point is 00:38:31 bringing all our troops home and I've talked to President Erdogan. And since we don't know what he says on these calls, for all we know, it could be, hey, you know, President Erdoun, we're going to take tak, tak, than, ttakekekekekeke, we're going tht, we're going tht, tht, th th to to to th to to their, to their, to their, their, their, th th th their, th th the th their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, and we're their, and we're their, and we're to their, to to their, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th th th th th th th th th th th ttogu. th toooo. too. too. too. too. too. too, too, and their,'re going to take our troops out. What do you have on Joe Biden? We don't know. And that's what's so frightening about what's happening, because he has an affinity for dictators. He's clearly misjudged the North Koreans. Kim Jong-un has been firing missiles and obviously not behaving the way that a meeting with the president should have led him to. He clearly does Putin's bidding. I mean Putin could not
Starting point is 00:39:11 be happier to have the Ukrainians caught up in this while he continues to you know eat away at their country and their sovereignty. The Russians have a huge amount of influence now in the Middle East because they're right there in Syria alongside the Iranians and propping up the Assad government. So there's a lot of moving pieces on this complex chessboard. And I've been in a White House situation room where the president was demanding information, not acting on impulse, where we were running through different scenarios, where we had to be constantly testing our opinions against
Starting point is 00:39:51 others in order to give the president the best advice. That is not happening in this White House. It is unfortunately unpredictable about what he will do next. So therefore, other countries, particularly one's adversarial to us, are going around the world saying, you can't count on America anymore. Right. You know, count on us. We'll sell you arms, not the Americans. We'll make deals with you, not the Americans. We'll have investments in your country, not the Americans.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And it's a tragedy because I think we were really well positioned at the end of the Obama administration to keep building on our leadership. And I think that's been squandered under this president. Let me ask you one question before we wrap it up. The Book of Gutsy Women talks about women who have done something amazing throughout time. One thing that we can't deny has changed throughout time has been politics and the way we see the world. I've always been fascinated as to your relationship.
Starting point is 00:40:55 You know, you are, you are, your mother's daughter, yes, but you are younger than her. Are there ever political ideas or, you know, the conversations you have where you don't agree or you've changed tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, toguuuuuuuu. thooooooooooooooooooo, tha, th know, the conversations you have where you don't agree or you've changed how you see an idea because of your age difference? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. I think, most notably on gay marriage and equal marriage rights, which is something that we talked about extensively. Wow. Throughout years, and I'm really grateful and proud of my mom for her shift to being just a dogged determined not only supporter but advocate for equal marriage rights. So you were like in the house and you were like mom gay people need to get married, go to your room young lady. I mean, I mean, hope it's like a weird fight to be having with your mom.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I'm not like I was like I want to go to a party and you're like mom. I mean, yes, I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I want like I was like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I was like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I was like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want like I want I want I want I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I to. I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like I want I was like I want I want. I'm. I want. I was like. I want. I was like, I want. I want to. I was like, I want to. I want to. I was like, I want to. I was like, I want. I was like, I want. I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm. I'm. I were like, mom, gay people need to get married. Go to your room, young lady. That's pretty wild. I mean, yes, but hopefully in a nicer toe. But Chelsea was really one of the strong voices on behalf of gay married here in New York. She gave lots of speeches. She was part of a group of leaders that were advocating for it. And, you know, I lots of speeches, she was part of a group of leaders that were advocating for it. And, you know, I really respect and listen to her about all kinds of things. And this was something that made a lot of sense to me, especially because she had such passion
Starting point is 00:42:17 about it. Well, I'll tell you this, it is a book of gutsy women written by two of the gutties. Thank you so much for being on the show. Wonderful having you here. The book of Gotsie Women is available now. Secretary Hillary Waterton Clinton and Chelsea Tension everybody. The Daily Show with Trevinoa, ears edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11th, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show. to the Daily Show and Instagram and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive
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