The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Steven Donziger's Harrowing Legal Battle with Chevron | Jeremy Lin

Episode Date: May 21, 2021

The pandemic creates a Zoom dysmorphia crisis, Roy Wood Jr. talks to attorney Steven Donziger about his battle against Chevron, and NBA star Jeremy Lin discusses his mental health advocacy.To help the National Alliance on Mental Illness in their work providing advocacy, education and support for mental health, donate at www.dailyshow.com/NAMI. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts

starting September 17th. Hey, what's going on, everybody? I'm Trevor Noah, and this is the daily social distancing show. Today is Thursday, May 20th. And my friends, some sad news just broke this morning. Microsoft announced that it'll be th, that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's that it's th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi all about about about about about about about about about thi. thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all all friends, some sad news just broke this morning. Microsoft announced that it'll be officially killing off Internet Explorer after 26 years. Yeah, I hope you're happy, Mr. Google Chrome, Mr. I Know Everything. I mean, I know you two never got along, but you better show some respect right now because an OG just passed. And I know some of you young bloods are saying, oh, good riddens, or who cares, but, but personally, I'm, I'm that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. Microsoft, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thro, throooo. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, throoooooooooo. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, two never got along, but you better show some respect right now because an O.G. just passed.

And I know some of you young Blads are saying, oh, good riddens, or who cares. But personally, I'm heartbroken, man. Internet Explorer was there for some of the most defining moments of my adolescence. The first time I figured out how to turn off parental controls and download a JPEG of a boob. So farewell, fair, You weren't always the fanciest browser. You definitely weren't the most reliable browser. But you were always there for me. In the sense that you automatically opened every time I started my computer and I could never figure out how to turn that setting off. RIP. Anyway, on tonight's show, cicadas are partying

like it's 2004. The world is running out of sperm and social media filters are giving us selfie esteem issues. So, let's do this people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. Ears edition. All right, let's kick things off with some news from the world of science and nature, specifically insects.

They're how we all get to experience the thrill of murder. People don't usually get excited about bugs, but when you've got ones that only appear about as often as a friend's reunion, well, that's worth buzzing about. The latest buzz is that billions of cicadas are emerging in the eastern U.S. Brewed tin is coming out of the ground after 17 years. The cicadas have been underground, living on tree sap, and now as the ground temperature hits 64 degrees, they're making their way to the tree tops, to mate. Their goal is to reach the tree branches where they will mate, lay eggs, and then die.

Two weeks later, the eggs will hatch, the young will tumble to the ground, and the whole 17-year cycle will start all over again. So why do cicada swarm scientists note their bizarre behavior is all part of their survival strategy? It's called predator saciation. They're going to emerge in such massive numbers synchronously. They'll fill the belly of every predator that wants to eat them, and they'll still be enough left over to perpetuate their species. Wow, 17 years.

Man, think about how different the world was. The last time these guys were up here in 2004. I mean, Tom Brady had just won the Super Bowl. We were getting ready to watch Vindiesel in a brand new fast and furious movie. Ben Affleck was dating J-Lo. It's going to be hard for them to adjust. But basically, Cicadas hide for 17 years and then emerge all at once

to try and have sex as fast as they can. I feel like right now everyone coming out of the pandemic is like, yeah, yeah, I get that for show. And you know, as weird as this seems, it actually makes sense to me that they only do this once every 17 years. I mean, anytime I try to get more than three friends together, we always end up being like, all right, all right, you know what, what does summer 2038 look like for you guys? All right, great, we'll have brunch then. As interesting as it is though, this life cycle is completely insane. I mean, how did the cicaters even th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, that, that, that, that, th, th, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, this life cycle is completely insane. I mean, how did the cicadas even come up with this?

Okay guys, you know how most species hang out in the sun all day having fun? Well, how about we stay underground for 17 years, sucking our roots? Then we jump out only once and have sex once before we get eaten. I love it! Oh, my word's perfect! Don't change a thing! But let's move on from the cicada orgy to some alarming news about human reproduction. Because you see, it turns out that when Brood 10 returns in 17 years, we might not be around to see them. Could humans one day become an endangered species? Scientists say we are not only grappling with the coronavirus pandemic and a climate emergency,

they say humanity is also facing a sperm count crisis. Analysis suggests that sperm counts in the West have dropped by over 50 percent in the last 40 years, and if the downward trend continues, it's fear that the planet could be facing what scientists are calling a spermageddon by the year 2045. Scientists say our modern life is behind this decline, unhealthy lifestyle such as smoking and obesity, and exposure to dangerous chemicals found in plastics, cosmetics, and pesticides. Wow. Okay, this is some really bad pesticides. Wow, okay. This is some really bad news. Although, the way they delivered it

is probably not gonna hit right with some people. Dude, are you telling me that if I smoke, get really fat and live an unhealthy lifestyle, then I can have sex without birth control? Yeah, dude, sign me up. But for real, guys, this is bad news. If we don't stop sperm levels from dropping, that means the end of pregnancies. And that means no more episodes of Teen Mom. I mean, I'm sure there'll be other effects too. I haven't

thought it all through yet, but I'm Teen Mom, I mean, I know Spurmageddon sounds like a spinoff to the Shark Nato movies, but I think we have have their their their their th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, thu, th. th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr-s, thr-s, toge, toge, toge, toge, toge, togu. togu. toff to the Shark Nato Movies, but I think we have to start conserving our sperm. We can't just be wasting it anymore just because we saw someone hot in a shampoo commercial. Most importantly, we men have to start treating our bodies better. Because your sperm is only as healthy as you are. If you're spending all day smoking and eating badly, you can't be surprised when your sperm is also hella out of shape. Okay guys, let's do it. Time to get to that egg!

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But if you find some stuff while going through your house that you really don't want anymore, please think carefully before giving it away. We all know that saying one man's trash is another man's treasure. Well, sometimes it is just trash. This morning Goodwill is urging people to reconsider what we're donating. It turns out Goodwill is getting a lot of stuff that can't use like broken furniture and leaky batteries, and that's hurting the nonprofit more than helping garbage disposal. Costs are going through the roof.

A spokesperson for Goodwill says, if you wouldn't give it to your judgey mother-in-law, then don't donate it. That's right. Some people out there are actually trying to give Goodwill trash, like broken furniture, leaky batteries, and Kanye's last album. And what I want to know is, who the hell is trying to donate leaking batteries? What asshole is out there going, well, I don't like getting burned by battery acid, but maybe poorer people will? I don't know what they're into. And you know that this has become a real problem for goodwill?

Because they never say negative stuff like this. They're literally called goodwill. If they're mad, then there's a good reason. Like if you saw Mr. Rogers going off on Daniel Tiger, well, you know that that little puppet try to pull some shit. So guys, please make sure that the items you that that And when it's time to throw away batteries, be responsible. You take them and you put them in a drawer where they just stay forever. Because no one really knows how to throw batteries away.

I mean, it's like, you just keep them. All right, but let's move on now to our top story. May is Mental Health Awareness Month, the month where we raise consciousness about mental health issues, and the month where we thank our therapists for giving us a fake name when they make fun of us to their friends. Unfortunately, due to the pandemic, a lot of people are doing worse than ever, because it turns out that the technology keeping us connected is also making us feel like shit. With the stress of the pandemic, body image issues have been on the rise. 43% of women, 26% of men said COVID-19 negatively affected

how attractive they felt. The countless hours spent on Zoom or video calls is causing more and more Americans to be insecure about their appearance. Video conferencing presents a constant, unedited, unfiltered look at ourselves that can be unsettling and those front-facing cameras we're all using aren't doing us any favors. Things like the nose could actually appear larger and wider and the eyes could appear smaller, not only as a person confronting their own reflection with much greater intensity and frequency than they ever had before, but

they were staring at a distorted reflection. This is all part of an alarming new trend, coined zoom dysmorphia. Yes, zoom dismorphia. It's when you realize that it's not just everyone else who looks terrible on zoom. And that's really not cool. You know, zoom shouldn't make you feel bad about your looks. It should make you feel bad about your dirty-ass living room. But you have to remember, people, this is a new phenomenon that we're dealing with. Humans didn't evolve to see their own faces all the time.

That's not normal. I mean, except for twins, I guess. They don't count. They're freaks. What? Like think about it, for most of human history, if you wanted to know what you looked like, you had to get your friend to smash up some blueberry and rub it on a cave wall. You look like this! Damn, do I really hold a spear like that? Now, the good news is that it's likely we'll all be using Zoom a lot less in the near future. But unfortunately, there's another technology that also makes us feel bad about ourselves, and it doesn't look like it's going away any time soon.

I'm talking about photo filters. Yes, they've helped mankind realize its dream of puking rainbows, but some of the most popular filters just help you look more attractive, which may sound harmless, but it could be anything but. Cutting edge apps and social media filters are allowing ordinary people to enhance their online photos to impossible perfection.

In some cases it's sparking a concerning phenomena. With apps like FaceTune, you have the power to completely transform yourself. Bigger eyes, skin, smaller butt or flatter belly, whiter teeth, smoother skin, you can do it right on your phone. When I take a selfie, I always use filters. I wish I could look like my filtered self in real life. This obsession with personal appearance that selfie culture encourages may have darker implications for mental health. A study in the journal of the American Medical Association says filtered pictures can take

a toll on self-esteem, body image, and even lead to body dysmorphic disorder. I do feel like we're losing touch with what reality looks like. We're already getting there to the point where we're expecting people to look as unhuman as possible. Yeah, photo editing filters set unrealistic expectations for beauty. The same way Fruit Ninja sets up unrealistic expectations of how easy it is to slice floating fruit. And once you have this filtered version of yourself in your head, you become dissatisfied with what you really look like.

So in essence, we're basically catfishing ourselves. But if these editing apps can turn adults into quivering blobs of insecurity, just imagine what they're doing to kids. Psychologists warn these photo filters can be particularly troubling for teens and young people who are still developing their sense of self. 80% of girls in one survey say they compare the way they look to other people on social media. On Instagram, I follow people like Kendall gender compare the way they look to other people on social media. On Instagram, like I follow people like Kendall Jenner and Kylie Jenner,

they all have this like time measure, like body image that everyone is expecting from this generation. Young girls on social media have a negative body perception with one in seven girls reporting being unhappy with the way they look at the end of elementary school and that number almost doubling to nearly one in three by age 14. 80% of young girls are using photo retouching apps to change the way they look before posting pictures. And those with high scores for manipulating their photos were associated with high scores for body-related and eating concerns. Any of you ever question your body because of what you see on social media?

Shame, man. This is a vicious cycle for teenagers. Social media makes them unhappy with how they look. So then they use filters, which perpetuate the unrealistic expectations for themselves and others. Plus, they're teenagers. So they're doing all of this while they're driving, which puts everyone at risk. And all the insecurity this creates is harmful for teenagers because I know it's hard to tune all of this out, but teams shouldn't be obsessing over this stuff. Like I honestly wish I could sit all teenagers down and say, hey, don't worry about how you look. The planet's going to die out before you're 30.

It doesn't matter. Now. it's bad enough when people wish they had the perfect Instagram look in real life. What's worse is when they actually try to make it happen. The more people look at doctored up images, the more likely they are to actually start seeking out cosmetic procedures at younger ages. These cosmetic procedures are becoming so popular with teens. Plastic surgeons have coined a new syndrome for it. Snapchat dysmorphia. And the number of kids getting

nip-tucks may astound you. In 2017, nearly 230,000 teens had cosmetic procedures. Kids as young as 13 are getting them. Doctors seeing an influx of people of all ages turning to plastic surgery to look more like their filter. 62% of plastic surgeons reported their patients wanted to go under the... the knife the knife the knife the knife the knife the knife.. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tuc. And their tuc. And to tuc. And to to their to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tuc. And tuc. And tuc. And tuc. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And. And. And. And tip. And. And. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And tip. And turning to plastic surgery to look more like their filter. 62% of plastic surgeons reported their patients wanted to go under the knife because of dissatisfaction with their social media profile. 57% said their patients wanted to look. Absolutely.

It's becoming more and more common when people will show me images on their Instagram, or even something that fills it on Facebook you know, this is really how I want to look. Just last week I had a patient come in and asked me for more of an anime eye and she couldn't figure out why it's not possible. Okay, man, this is really disturbing. Thirteen-year-olds in particular should not be getting plastic surgery. I mean, when you're 13, your physical appearance is already naturally changing. That's what our faces are doing.

It's like long-term plastic surgery. I mean, this is what I looked like when I was 13. You've got to let that shit play out. Honestly, though, I don't blame the teenagers. I blame the parents and the plastic surgeons. I mean, how are you going to let them do this to themselves. They can't even buy cigarettes but you're going to let them buy a new face? Clearly this is getting out of hand, which is why there's now a movement, not just against filters, but all the ways that people have been distorting reality on social media. Many influencers have started speaking up on this issue, admitting that they've presented

altered images in the past and are opening up the conversation. Some are even posting raw, totally unedited photos of themselves and breaking down how people on your Instagram feed may be manipulating their angles and lighting to get that quote-unquote perfect selfie. There are many celebrities exposing the dangers of digital distortion. They are posting images of themselves unedited, unfiltered online. And this is a great example to young girls. Popstar Lizzo made a big flash when she posted a selfie in the nude and unretouched.

There's no shame anymore and I just kind of post myself. It's like you take me as I am. You're gonna have to love me. British MP Luke Evans has proposed the digitally altered body image bill, which would require advertisers and publishers to display a logo whenever a person's face or body has been digitally enhanced. Okay, first of all, I love the idea of putting disclaimers on photos of people who have been digitally altered. I love it. And honestly I don't think we should stop there. We need to do this with everything

that's been digitally out like food ads. Those are the worst. Every fast food burger looks great on TV. But then when I order it, it looks like it fell asleep in a hot tub. But I'm glad that we're finally learning the truth about what celebrities look like. Personally, I'm waiting for Spongebob to join this movement. I mean, that? It's like, it's not even... Maybe it's not real. Then how would you have a TV show? Now, I'm not naive enough to think that society's gonna stop creating unrealistic beauty standards anytime soon, all right? But what I do hope is that we can better educate our kids

and ourselves that our own natural bodies, I mean, except for that flap th th th that th. That shit is gross. I don't care who you are. It looks like a mid-arm ball sack, but everything else is beautiful. All right, when we come back, Roywood Jr. finds out what can happen when you go up against big oil. You don't want to miss it. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.

Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. We're never gonna forget the last year that we've lived through. Being locked inside our apartments 24-7. But what if I told you that some people had it even worse? Well, Roywood Jr. has more.

It's springtime. COVID's in the rearview and New York City is opening up again. Feeh-feebu. No good, sir. Feeck you! But one New Yorker is still stuck inside. Human Rights lawyer, Stephen Donziger, has been locked in his apartment under house arrest without trial for over 600 days.

You've been on lockdown for coming up on two years, bro, what did you do? You get the tag off a mattress. I'm a human rights lawyer. And I have a black ankle, claw shackled to my leg, courtesy of the United States criminal justice system because I helped as a lawyer win a very big pollution judgment against Chevron. You talking about Chevron the gas station? Where I get like hot cheetos and shit? Chevron is one of the largest most powerful companies in the United States of America.

Dunzig has been at a house arrest since 2019 when he was charged with contempt of court in the middle of a protracted legal battle with Chevron. Well you know what they say? If you come at the middle of a protracted legal battle with Chevron. Well, you know what they say? If you come at the king, you best not miss. And if you hit, your ass get locked up in your apartment for almost two years. I think that's how it goes. I mean, the attacks on me are just to distract attention from what they did down in Ecuador and the pollution they caused. They call it the Amazon Chernobyl.

All this is a sola a sordidamol and animals, I'll tell you with the contamination because they're going to the ester and the tomorrowed. Billions of gallons of toxic waste dumped in the Ecuadorian Amazon. Rivers and lakes poisoned, Stephen and several of the lawyers brought a lawsuit that led to a $9 billion legal judgment against Chevron. So watch this the first time I'm hearing about it. Where are the influences with the little oil square Instagram posts?

I think there's an atmosphere in a lot of these media outlets where they get scared to do stories that would expose the corruption of some of their major advertisers. The New York Times actually did assign a story about me to do stories that would expose the corruption of some of their major advertisers. The New York Times actually did assign a story about me to a major journalist there. Two weeks into it he called me up he said they killed the story. Major networks have reached out. One actually interviewed me extensively and the guy disappeared. I mean, but you say disappear, you mean like, like reassign, you don't mean like he's like gone off the earth, right? Chevron has a goon squad of lawyers and PR people that threaten outlets that try to cover the story in a balanced way.

You don't think that would happen to me though, right? That's like real journalist. I'm a fake journalist. We say that on the poster for the Daily Show. I don't think they're they they they they they they they they they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're going they're going th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's go go go go go go go thi. thi. thi. theeeea. thi. theeei. thi. thei. thei. thei. thea. the.'m a fake journalist. It's that we say that on the poster for the Daily Show. I don't think they're going to go after the appeal. You don't think or you know. It's a big difference between the two. And Chevron being after your ass is no joke. In 2011, they filed a suit against Stephen, claiming the verdict in Ecuador. the verdict was upheld after an appeal. Tha- th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, their thi, thi, their their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their their thi, thin' they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're, they're they're, they're, they're they're, they're they're they're, they're they're, they're they're they're they're their, their, their, their, their their their thi. I's thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, their thin, their thin, their their their their their their their thin, they won a multi-million dollar judgment against him. Two years after that, the verdict was upheld after an appeal. This is a messy case, and it looks pretty bad for Stephen. With Chevron's budget, there might not be an end in sight. The people attacking me make $1,500 an hour, bro, no disrespect. The people attacking me, make $1,500 an hour, bro, no disrespect. You know how much they sued me for? $60 billion dollars. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi $ $ $ $ $ $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1,000, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1, $1,000, $1, $1,000,000, $1, $1, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. This is is is is is $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $1, $1, $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.00,000.00,000.00.00.00,000.00,000.00.00.00,000.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. me? Yeah, I would. I'd fuck you up for 800 an hour, bro, no disrespect. You know how much they sued me for?

$60 billion. That's B billion. Excuse me a second. Chevron, these are the words of him and not me. Please don't fuck with my money. Sorry about that. You want to hear something crazier? Their prosecutor here in New York refused to prosecute me.

And the judge then appointed a private law firm that has Chevron as a client. You got the fossil fuel mafia coming after you, man. Absolutely. They wanted me to turn my computer and cell phone over to them. The one lawyer is fighting another lawyer in a case. That's not how it goes. That's where all the...

It's like, that's like giving your girl your phone in the middle of an argument. That's why you've got to have a separate phone that you pretend is your phone and then when they ask for your phone, that's the phone. Hang on one second. Baby, if you're watching this, I only have one phone. I love you. All right, go ahead, man. When Donziger appealed the order to turn over his phone, the judge charged him with the contempt of court and put him on house arrest.

And that's pretty unusual. So is the private law firm and Stephen's civil judge appointing the judge for his criminal trial. There are a lot of irregularities in this case case,that's why Stevens doing something kind of crazy. We're asking the new attorney general, Merrick Garland, to intervene. I promise you I'm the only lawyer in the United States right now who is begging to be prosecuted by the Department of Justice. Prosecute me. Take it out of the hands of the private Chevron law firm because it is inappropriate for a private law firm to be prosecuting someone

when they can go to jail. Hell, now you don't want to go to jail as a human rights lawyer. They're going to be harassing you day and night for free legal advice. Your prison nickname going to be pro bono. Stephen's trial is going into closing arguments this week and he's had supporters coming out for him like AOC, Rashida Talib, even the stepmom from stepmom. But that seems like cold comfort when you're stuck in your apartment for double the length of the pandemic. I mean at this point your house arrest might outlast to Amazon.

If I didn't exist, Chevron would invent me. They don't want people thinking about the lawyer. People on the Amazon, they guard the lungs of the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the planet the on the Amazon, they guard the lungs of the planet for all of us. If I can't do this work, we're fucking dead. All of us. It matters. At the end of the day, this case is about an oil company claiming they didn't pollute. What else do you really need to know?

I feel bad for Stephen, but not bad enough to go full Aaron Brockovich. Man, I'm not fucking with you no more. I'm nervous, man. Hang in there with me. They're not gonna put an ankle bracelet on you and come live with me in house arrest. I can't be on house arrest with your ass. I got to do my naked yoga. We don't do naked yoga.

And that's why we can't be on house arrest together. I do naked yoga so y'all can't be around for that. That's my meditation. All right when we come back, NBA champion Jeremy Lynn will be joining me on the show so don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible.

I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My guest tonight is NBA champion and philanthropist Jeremy Lynn. We talked about breaking down barriers on and off the court and why Mental Health Action Day is so important to him. Jeremy Lynn, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks for having me, Trevor. It's gonna be a blast.

Yeah, man, you are an international basketball sensation. And recently, this week, in fact, you released a really lengthy, heartfelt statement about your journey in basketball, your life in basketball. And I couldn't help feeling. I was like, man, is this Jeremy Lynn saying goodbye to basketball? Was this your official retirement? It th, it th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, it thi, thi, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, th, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. theeean, thiiii. thean, thean, thean, thii. thi. the. You, thi, you thi, was like, man, is this Jeremy Lynn saying goodbye to basketball? Was this your official retirement?

It wasn't my official retirement, but it was definitely something where, you know, I'm kind of realizing there's not much else I can do to prove that I belong in the NBA. And so every challenge that I've been given, every ask of me has been been I've done and I've performed well so for me it's kind of realizing hey like it's not it doesn't really matter what I do where there's not much else that I could do to earn a spot to even you know or a chance to fight for a spot and so that was kind of my way of saying hey I don't think this door is closed is opening I think it's closed and that you know it's kind of passing a torch tor tor tor tor tor tor to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the to to to the to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the the the to be to be to be to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. thi. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thi. thean. thi. know, it's kind of passing a torch the next generation. But it was, in many ways, honestly, like, it hurts, right?

Because I feel like I do deserve it, but it's also a celebration in many ways. But, hey, it's time for the next generation, and there's going to be plenty of Asian-American players that are much better than me down the Asian Americans and Asian people in general in a sport where, you know, we just haven't seen Asian Americans excelling at the level that you were. You inspired people whether they were Asian or not. It was insanity for everybody. When you hit that moment where it was linsanity, did you take a moment to appreciate how crazy your journey had been up until that point? You know, I have two huge regrets, but one of them is I didn't slow down to embrace everything about what was happening.

I didn't know what it meant to society. I didn't know really even what it meant to me because I was just in my second year as a pro. And so I didn't process it and I think that's when I learned. If you're not fulfilled and content, you won't be fulfilled and content when you get to your destination, because you're just going to set another destination for yourself. Right. That's why I'm passionate about mental health.

I struggle so much with pregame anxiety. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. And this was when I was just trying to make it and just trying to survive. and to survive, you, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive, you survive. And th, you survive. And th survive. And thu survive. And thu, you survive. And thu, you survive. And thu, you, you, you, you thi, you thi, you thi, thi, you survive, you know, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you to survive. I I I I'm to survive. to survive. to survive. to survive. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thr-a. thate. that, well and then insanity happens I'm literally the most popular person on the planet and I'm struggling with the same anxiety. I can't, I can't, and I'm realizing like, man, mental health and the anxiety that I struggled with was something that came before I had the success, after I had the success and everything in

between if I don't learn how to properly address it. What do you think some of the misconceptions are in and around mental health and what are the stigmas that you hope to erase as you continue these conversations? Funny thing, it's like when you talk about the body, it's like you walk into any store, like any juiceery or anything and you got like collagen and bone broth. Right, right, right. All these like things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things like things like things like things like things like things th things th things th things th things things things things things things things things things things things like things like, th, things, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. thi, th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi all these like things that people literally spend their like like live building these products to give you just a little bit of health benefit but then when it comes to mental health it's like whoa like no we can't talk about that I mean the brain the mind is a part of our body and

it is arguably the most important and if if you aren't addressing it, or if you're not aware of it, like there will be severe consequences. And sometimes to me, like one things I also don't like is like, let's say you go to therapy, you're trying to get help in terms of mental health. Sometimes it's more just, hey, I'm adding tools to my toolbox. I'm learning how to process past experiences. I'm trying to grow as a person and become better. Right, right. I was really happy to see actually that you were teaming up, you know, with MTV networks who are also spearheading an initiative to say, hey, it's time for a mental health action day. It's time for us to do something

and just really normalize these conversations. What are the tools that you learned that helped you? Like, were there any things that helped you with your pregame anxiety? Are there things that you still do today that help you breathe and center yourself? Yeah, I mean, for me, you know, my faith, I'm Christian. I mean, my faith is, it has been very, very helpful in terms of getting me to a place where I don't, you know, when when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thr, thr, thr, thr, their, thr, to to to to their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, toooooome, to to to to their, their start to really struggle with fear and anxiety, how do I remind myself that like, hey, this result does not define who I am, right? Right, right. How do I, you know, because if I'm not careful, I'll end up listening to myself constantly. I'm feeding myself is like, the majority of the time, not good.

So, right, right. I'm not talking to myself, then I end up listening to myself. And when I listen to myself, then I listen to a lot of the doubts, the fears, a lot of the things that aren't true, that haven't happened, that won't happen, and I'm suddenly bombarding myself, and next thing you know, I'm going down this rabbit hole of catastrophic thoughts. Right. So there's so many many many many many many many many many so many different ways that each person can learn how to improve their minds or to be able to address some of the things and you know maybe the last thing that I've realized is all of our experiences are constantly shaping us. Yeah. And we aren't realizing that a lot of things that we go through and a lot of things that we have went thrown tho tho th th th th th tho tho tho tho th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thr-a thr-a thr-a thr-a tho tho-a thrown. thrown tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to be thi to be thi to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be toa. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to we have went through when we were younger can be triggered

and that if we don't process these things, if we don't learn about these things, then we're not adequately equipped to be able to handle future situations. You've also taken the mantle in many ways in and around the hate crimes of the hate crimes that we've seen escalating, you know, since the dawn of coronavirus, in and around the AAPI community, you know. You've talked about this and the stigma that comes with it. Looking at it, I mean, obviously you don't speak for the entire Asian community. And I, you know, your shirts, I think,

speaks to this as well. Unity. Tell me a little bit about what you're be unique to certain parts of the community, specifically Asian people. Well you just said it. You said unity and conversation and that's where we're trying to start, right? And so this sure is, you know, a collab with that we did with the hundreds. And again, it's about cross-racial solidarity and man, basketball gave me access to different cultures and different people that were not coming in contact with and they reshaped all the different stigmas and the stereotypes that I had of other ethnicities that I was only learning from Hollywood for movies. Honestly you

know I came when my parents came immigrant parents all all we knew about black people was what we saw from movies and that's dangerous and that's dangerous right and so having the exposure the exposure the the th the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they they they they they they they they they they they they they're they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they to to they're to to they're to to their their. their their they. their they. their they. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they that's dangerous, that's dangerous, right? And so having the exposure, having these conversations, being able to learn from each other, I mean, that's what you're saying, it's where it starts. And I think, like, if we can go into different spaces, having an open mind and being willing to listen, like not defend yourself, not prove a point, but just listen. If we can start doing that, I I, I, I, I I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th, I th, I th, I th, I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, right, right, right, thi, right, right, right, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thiaaaaaugh, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And yourself, not prove a point, but just listen.

If we can start doing that, I think it would go a long way. Yeah, man, you're doing amazing things, man. And I guess as you said, now the journey is going to be enjoying the next part of your journey before you get to your next destination. So Jeremy, thank you so much for taking the time. Congratulations on everything on everything to to to to to to thiiiiiii th. to to th. th. th. to th. to thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiii. thi. thi. thi. see you again hopefully. I appreciate, thanks, Trevor. Take a moment today to take action to support your mental health. It's easier than you think.

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