The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Stoneman Douglas Students - Grief, Gun Reform and the March For Our Lives | RuPaul Charles

Episode Date: March 22, 2018

Trevor has a wide-ranging conversation about gun violence with five students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, and RuPaul Charles discusses "RuPaul's Drag Race." Learn more about your ad-cho...ices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever
Starting point is 00:00:31 you get your podcast. March 22nd, 2018. From Comedy Central's World News headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome everybody. Thank you so much and welcome. Thank you so much and welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you for tuning in. I'm Trevor Noah. My guest tonight. My guest ton to the Daily Show. Thank you for tuning in. I'm Trevor Noah. My guest tonight is the iconic star of Rupal's Drag Race.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Rupal Charles is joining us everyone. Also, we have some really amazing guests joining us. You probably know this, but this Saturday is the March for our lives. And so joining us on today's show, we have five students from Parkland, Florida, to share their views on how they believe they can make schools safer. So please, that's going to be really fun of the state soon for that. We've got a packed show, so let's get into it. First up, Donald Trump versus Joe Biden. And I don't mean 2020. I mean 3 p.m. after school.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It all started on Tuesday when Biden called out the president over his past crude comments about women. They asked me, would I like to debate this gentleman? I said, no. I said, if we're in high school, I'd take him behind the gym and beat the hell out of him. Any guy who talked that way was usually the fattest, ugliest SOB in the room. This morning, the president tweeted, quote, crazy Joe Biden is trying to act like a tough guy. Actually, he is weak, both mentally and physically.
Starting point is 00:02:14 President, by the way, is 71. Joe Biden is 75. Hoda is so over this. Like you can see in her eyes, she's like, I did not spend nine years drinking Chardonnay with Kathy Lee at 10 a.m. Just to report on this bullshit. And here's the thing, personally, I have no idea who would win this fight. I mean, Biden seems scrappy, but if 70 years of McDonald's couldn't take Trump down, I don't know what can. Wouldn't it be funny if Biden saw Black Panther and now he thinks this is how he gets to take over the White House? This is going to be him?
Starting point is 00:02:49 I challenge the commander in chief. Each scar represents a time I ran for president. Mr. Biden, using that action is really racist. I'm sorry, I just got into character. And while politicians are taking us back, Disney is doing their best to move things forward. Disney World has reopened the popular Pirates of the Caribbean ride, minus a controversial scene. Orlando's Magic Kingdom debuted the new version this week without the bride-a-bride. It depicted a group of women bound to an auction block with a banner reading auction, take a wench
Starting point is 00:03:25 for a bride. Disney redesigned the scene as a chicken auction with a female character serving as the auctioneer. Okay, this is just weird. Why is Disney making pirates inoffensive? They're pirates. Bad guys don't have to be woke. That's why they're bad.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Now what? Like all of a sudden your pirates are going to, ah, we're gonna kill you all equally. Ah, we shall have no preference based on race, gender or sexual orientation. We're murderers, not bigots. Look, our quartermaster is black. Ah! Soap, Andre, Andre's cool. It just doesn't work. And look, I get it. I get what Disney's trying to do. They want they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they th. they th. they they th. th. they th. they they th. they they're they're they're they're th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to to to th. thi. to to the. the. the. the. thi. We're André? Bah! Andre's cool. It just doesn't work. And look, I get it. I get what Disney's trying to do.
Starting point is 00:04:09 They want to get rid of problematic themes in some of their stories. And I don't think they should stop at parrots of the Caribbean, right? What about beauty and the beast? A woman, abducted by a mann't, thullulle, thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. the, the, the, thu. the, the. the. to to to to the. the. the. the, the, th. to change that. An unconscious woman is kissed by a strange man without her consent. Ah, hashtag Me Too. Yeah, that's not Prince Charming, that's Prince Cosby, that's what that is. But let's move on. Let's move on, Charmaine's story. Facebook has been in the news this week, and the fallout from its data sharing scandal shows no sign.. th. th. th. that, in, in, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi, thi, that's, that's that's that's that's thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thean, that's that's that's thean, thi. thea, thi, thi, this week and the fallout from its data sharing scandal
Starting point is 00:04:45 shows no sign of stopping. In fact, people have even started a movement online called hashtag delete Facebook, which people are using on Facebook, which if you think about it is like seeing an abstinence video being the top clip on porn hub. That's why last night, Facebook CEO and Walking Peanut Allergy made a rare appearance on CNN to try and stop the bleeding. What happened? What went wrong? So this was a major breach of trust and and I'm really sorry that this happened. You know we have a basic responsibility to protect people's data and if we can't do that then we don't deserve to have the opportunity to serve people. So our responsibility now is to make sure that th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thu thu thu thu thu thu thu thus thus thus thus thus thus thus that that thu the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thean thean the the the the to the to to the to to to to to to to to to to to to't deserve to have the opportunity to serve people.
Starting point is 00:05:25 So our responsibility now is to make sure that this doesn't happen again. Why do tech CEOs always speak like they're launching a new product? It's like, I'm proud to announce our newest innovation, the apology. This excuses everything. I'm really sorry. But look, at the very least, Zuckerberg knows that he's in hot water, which is why he's willing to take his apology wherever it's needed. Will you testify before Congress? So the short answer is, is I'm happy to, too, if it's the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:05:56 What we try to do is send the person at Facebook who will have the most knowledge about what Congress is trying to learn. So if that's me, then I am happy to go. Oh wow, that's right. Zuckerberg says he's willing to testify. But if I was a congressman, I wouldn't want him to testify. Yeah, because you realize that dude knows everybody's secrets. If they try and grill Zuckerberg, he can just be like, sure, let's talk about transparency. Every few days, Congressman, you click on your daughter's best friends bikini photos. Any more questions? And look, while Zuckerberg's comments may not have been entirely reassuring, I did sympathize
Starting point is 00:06:37 with him on one thing. If you told me in 2004, when I was getting started with Facebook, that a big part of my responsibility today would be to help protect in 2004 when I was getting started with Facebook that a big part of my responsibility today would be to help protect the integrity of elections against interference by other governments, you know, I wouldn't have really believed that that was going to be something that I would have to work on 14 years later. Yeah, you have to admit, that is a weird situation to be in. This guy started out by basically making a hot or not website for his college and now America is counting on him to protect the integrity of its elections.
Starting point is 00:07:10 That's an insane world to be in. It's like if an asteroid was headed towards the earth and then for some reason we turn to the guy who invented Tinder. It's like, Tinder guy, we need you to save us! He's like, ah, has anyone tried swiping left? to. to, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to have, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th thi. thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, te, te, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t has anyone tried swiping left? Ah, it's my only move! For more on the Facebook fallout, we turn now to our senior tech correspondent and computer owner, Ronnie Chang, everybody. After learning that Facebook allowed random companies to access their personal data, is it fair for people to feel like Facebook betrayed their trust? Oh, people are pissed off on the internet? Oh wow, what a surprise.
Starting point is 00:07:52 The only people to blame here are the dumb asses who share everything about themselves online. Every day, it's like, look at the food I'm eating, or look at who I'm banging. It's ridiculous. But to be fair, running, not everything thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to to be thi to be to be to be to be thi thi thi to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be thoom people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people thi, not everything thi, not everything thi, not everything thi not everything thi not not not not not not not not everything thi thi. thi thi thi, not not everything thi. to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be'm banging. It's ridiculous. Well, but to be fair, running, and not everything people share on Facebook is superficial like that. No, it really is. Like, you don't need to tell the world your relationship is complicated. Okay? Every relationship is complicated.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Especially when you're banging the best eggs Benedict on the East Coast. Hashtag! So I, I take it that that that that th th that th th th th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that is that is that is that is that is that is that is that is thate thi, that is thate thate' thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th th thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that the that that that theeeeee theeeeeeeeeeeee thi the the thi thi thi! So I take it that you're not on Facebook? What? No, of course I'm on Facebook. I just don't care if they take my data because I'm not naive enough to post anything real about myself. If you check my profile, it's just pictures of Iceland and Sunday mimosas. I don't even know what a mimosa is, and just steal pictures off of white girls' Instagrams. Yeah, but, but Ronnie, I don't get it then. What's the point of having a Facebook profile if everything you put on there is going to be fake? Uh, because it's fun? This is the internet,
Starting point is 00:08:53 Trevor. You can be anything. Why would you want to be yourself? Think about playing a game like World of Warcraft. You could choose to be a wizard with magical powers. But no, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, what's thi, what's thi, what's th. What's th. What's, what's th. What's, what's, what th. What's, what th. What's, th. What, th. What, th. What, th. What, thi. What, thi. What, thi. What, thi. And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. And, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. What's thi an arc with super strength, but no, I'm just going to go into battle as Ronnie, a guy who bleeds every time he flosses. It's the same thing with Facebook. On Facebook, I'm not a 5'7 Asian dude. I'm 6'5 and I'm half black. Oh, wait, why only half black? Oh, because I still want to be able to book Airbnb, so you know, that stuff is... Well, I mean that's fair enough, but then, aren't people weirded out when they meet you in real life?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh, what? No, I never meet those psychos on the internet. They're never who they say they are. Well, I guess that makes sense. Ronnie Chang, everybody. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday we're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these
Starting point is 00:10:11 earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the Daily Show. As we all know, there was a school shooting last month in Parkland, Florida, and the response from the students has captured the attention of the nation.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Joining me now to talk about where America goes from here are students from Major E. Stoneman Douglas High School. Please welcome, Elijah, Josh, Kai Thomas and Carly. Welcome, everybody. Welcome to the show. You folks have been at school for a few weeks now post the shooting. Is there a general shared mood amongst the students, or would you say that there's different levels of grief in the classroom?
Starting point is 00:11:20 I think there's different levels of grief, but it's overall supportive. Like, if you see someone crying, even someone you don't know, like, you feel comfortable enough to be there for them, right? And be there for everyone. Is that something you've seen post the shooting as a school as a whole, where people have had to go, like we are suffering through something, we are in pain, and at the same time we have to overcome that? Yeah, most definitely. Not really overcome though, but more get-through it because I don't think we're ever going to overcome that completely, but just support everyone. Right. It's interesting
Starting point is 00:11:54 that you say not overcome but get through. For many Americans, the school shooting was one of the school shootings. It was unfortunately another school shooting and for many Americans people say the same thing. I never tho' thoun, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi because I thi because I thi because I thi because I thi because I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't th I don't that that that that that that that that that that thoooooooooooooooooooooooe the that th. I the school shootings. It was unfortunately another school shooting. And for many Americans, people say the same thing. I never thought it would happen to me. Thomas, you are in school. You are living your life, and all of a sudden, there's a shooting. Do you in that moment think that it's not real? And were you able to process what was happening when it was when it was going down?
Starting point is 00:12:25 I definitely didn't think it was real for like probably the first half hour until I heard one of my friends was actually shot. So I was just thinking it was a drill or some, I guess yeah a drill. For like the first half hour of just sitting in the auditorium and then I did sort of click that this is real, this is really happening. But even then, like going back, like seeing the school on the news and all that, it's like, that's my school. It doesn't feel like it's my school. It doesn't feel like it happened in my community.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Yet, I do know that I could process immediately that it did happen. Right. And it's interesting that you say that it people have joined in with Major E. Stoneman High. People have gone, this is the story of America. Do you still feel like it's your story or has it become like a national movement? So, partly I feel like it is still our story, because it did happen here. It's like we see that building every day. We know we lost 17 people, but at the same time it's like the entire nation is sort of taken upon themselves to better........ And, the, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, their, their, their. And, their. And, their. And, like, like, like, the entire nation sort of taken it upon themselves to better the system and fix what happened, like make sure that never happens again. So I feel like it's it's a little bit of both, yeah. Right. When you went back into school
Starting point is 00:13:32 Kai for the first time post the shooting, what was some of the thoughts that were going through your mind? Well like Thomas said I couldn't believe that I was going back to, you know people called us the the the the the the the the the th... the the to, the to, the to, the the the the the the to, the the the the th. the the, the th. thin, thin, the the, thi, the the, thi, thi, their, the their, their, thi, thi, their, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, the thin, the thin, the the tie, te, te, te, te, te, te is, tean, thaean, thauu. thau. thau. thau. thau. So, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is know, people called us the new Columbine that we actually surpass Columbine. So to be a member and a student in that school that surpassed Columbine is just you don't want to be that kid. You don't want to be the kid who went to the next Columbine. Right. And we all just had to come together and basically just sit down as one family and all of our friends and even people we weren't friends with sat down together and we bonded. You went from being a school where there was a terrible tragedy and over what seemed like a span of, you know, overnight, you became a message of hope. People were rallying behind you as a school.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Elijah, why do you think your school and the students involved in the shooting were able to mobilize so many people towards doing something? That's a good question. I believe that deals with our spirit as Eagles as students here. We have always been taught since an early age that be the change you wish to see in the world. As a matter of fact that be the change you wish to see in the world. As a matter of fact, that is lettered on the exit of our school through the red gates. We see that every day we walk out. And really this message has been so ingrained within us and so emphasized that we really
Starting point is 00:15:02 wanted to just make a change to make sure that this does not happen again. Right, and that's been, I think, one of the biggest questions of where to go from here. Everyone says, how do you make this not happen again? And that's where it feels like everyone reaches a deadlock. Even in the school, not everyone is on the same page. Carly, on your side, you have your views, and a lot of a thua, and a thua, and a thua, and a thua, and a thua, and a thua, and a, and a, and a tho, and a, and a tho, and a tho, and a tho, and a, and tho, and tho, tho, tho, th. tho, tho, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. that's, your side, you have your views, and a lot of the students do, what would you hope to see going forward to try and stop something like this from happening again? I'd hope to see gun control ultimately.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I don't know exactly how to stop people from being killed, but I feel like gun control is a way to limit the amount of shootings that are happening, because it's happening all too frequently. In your opinion, like I say, there's no right to a wrong answer, but like, do you have a sense of what that gun control would be? I mean, you're not the lawmaker, and so I don't think anyone should expect that answer from you per se, but do you even think just looking at the informationto have in the hands of a civilian because they're
Starting point is 00:16:06 just used to kill people really. They're not used to go hunting and it doesn't or protect yourself in the case of, you need to protect yourself. So I feel like an assault weapon is just not necessary and I think you shouldn't be able to get guns until year 21. And also just mental health checks, background checks, just keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people because that's what got so many people into this situation,
Starting point is 00:16:33 not just our school, but so many other places. You bring that up, the mental state of people having access to guns. The shooter at your school, one thing that was a parent post the shooting was every single person that was interviewed said, we knew this about him. We suspected this. It wasn't the case where people said,
Starting point is 00:16:54 we don't know why. Everyone felt like they knew why. Could you tell me why you would say that? Is there any particular reason people felt like this kid was a threat to everyone else? Well personally I didn't know this kid but I know that like apparently the police were called to his house like something like 45 times. There's so many warning signs. There were two FBI tips.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And yeah, it so easily could have been prevented. One of the things that I like support, support is this idea of gun violence restraining orders. They have it in place right now, and I almost said Australia, and in place in California. It's basically, it's like a due process way where like someone close to like a dangerous individual can go to a court and like petition them to have the person's weapons removed temporarily until they can present new evidence that this person is a danger. It's completely due process and it should have, you know, it has bipartisan support and I think
Starting point is 00:17:57 it would have definitely stopped this shooting at our school. Right. It's interesting that you're all high school students and now in many ways everyone in the nation is turning to you and asking you your opinions on guns, your opinions on gun control. Like how have you processed this information? Kai, when you look at what people are asking of you, do you think that you should be having these conversations? Do you think that you have the ability to have these conversations? Like, like how do you process all of the their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, toooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, their, thin, their, that you have the ability to have these conversations? Or like, how do you process all of this information?
Starting point is 00:18:26 Well, I think that all the people that have had the opportunity to speak as well as for those that haven't are very capable of doing so. We're a very well-educated student body and we represent ourselves as such. So, you know, you can imagine that it's very shocking that you're going from one moment, you're just a regular kid to the next moment, you're you know, petitioning lawmakers and you're marching on Washington and trying to affect real change. So overall that whole thing is still very unthinkable. And when you look at what you've had to do since then and what you've been asked to do, do you think in some ways people have politicized your pain? Like when you look at how people speak about what's happened at your school,
Starting point is 00:19:08 do you feel like some people are only in it too further their agenda? Is that something that bothers you? I think people are forgetting that 17 people died, and they're forgetting that we're grieving in a lot of this. And even like making conspiracy theories about it, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, and even, like, and even, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like we were there, we experienced it. So it takes away from our pain and it just makes, it takes away from the real topic of what's going on. What would you like people to be focusing on?
Starting point is 00:19:37 I think we can focus on gun control. We need to focus on gun control, but we can't forget the 17 lives that were lost. Right. And when you look at the discussion itself, thion thuuuuuuuu. the discussion the discussion the discussion thu. thu. the discussion thu. thiiii. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thiiiii. And, thi. And, thi,'t forget the 17 lives that were lost. Right. And when you look at the discussion itself, some people say the solution to this is arming teachers, others say the solution is restricting guns from younger people. You at this table all goes to the same school, but you don't have the exact same views when it comes to this. How have you managed to respectfully engage in
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Starting point is 00:20:48 with this. Are there any things that you've heard of where you go, like, I don't actually agree with, I don't, thrown to thea. I don't actually agree with arteacher would even want to be armed at a school just because first off they're not comfortable being with a gun in class after the events and I don't think they would have it on their person so I don't think it would be like really useful like one of my teachers is saying it'd be locked in their closet. If a to'cet if a to'n'e'n't their their their their their their their their their of their of their of their of their of their of their of their of their of their-s'lipeaseaseaseaseasease their their thr-I thr-I thr-like throwneaseaseasease thr-like thr-like thr-like thr-like thr-like thr-like thr-like thr-in-in-in-in-in th Right? And Josh on your side, like I know for instance you've said, it actually makes you feel a little bit safer knowing that a teacher is armed.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You want to have people in the school who have guns because then you feel like someone who comes into the school is less likely to do that because they know that they're guns there. When you're thinking through it like that, you feel like the person with a gun in the school makes it safer for you? Yeah, I don't, like I'm not against teachers having guns. Right. You know, I think if a teacher's trained and they have a background and history with it, they should be able to bring a gun if they want to, be completely concealed, you know, no kid would even know they have it, but I'm more so for having security and police at our school. So like teachers really won't have to worry about that. And I do you think it is
Starting point is 00:22:08 a deterrent and I do think if something happens then they can stop it. Like if you look at what just happened in Maryland, their school resource officer stopped the shooter before you thi. And if someone said to you, but Josh, why don't we just banned guns all their. their. Sa. Sa. Sa. Sa. Sa. Sa. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t., why don't we just ban guns all together? Why don't we ban these automatic weapons? Why don't we ban handguns? Why does that not connect with you as a person? I think banning guns, it sounds like the easy answer, but it's really not. There's 350 million guns in the United States right now. Like, there's absolutely no way that people would be able
Starting point is 00:22:45 to, you know, collect, like the government would be able to collect them all. And it's people's, you know, it's people's God-given right to self-defense. You know, I don't agree with just taking that away. Kai, on your side, teachers having guns, isn't the safe space that you would want to be in. A the teacher, the the the the the the the the their, tha. K, to be in, to be in. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. Ka, tape. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K, t. K, t. K, t. K, te. K, te. K, t. K, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. And, t. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. I. I. I. I's. I's, t t t t t t to. I's, t te. I. I's, t te. I's, t t te. I's. I'm. And, t t t t t t safe space that you would want to be in. A teacher having a gun doesn't make you feel better. Why? Well, no. And if I'm being honest, I don't want to seem like that guy. But me being a minority in the South and having a teacher have a gun,
Starting point is 00:23:17 regardless of color, it does not make me feel comfortable. And even when you have resource officers who are, you know, taking matters into their own hands, I don't think that lethal weapons should have a place in the school environment. And if you need to have some kind of weapon to, you know, defend people, I do believe that it should be a non-lethal option. Right. Elijah, people are going to be marching, in Washington, D.C. And in many other cities around the United States. Everyone seems to be marching for one common cause, and that is life. People are saying, march for our lives, but everyone has a different idea of what that is.
Starting point is 00:23:55 What do you hope would come from this march? Well, I hope there's a lot more attention to the fact that, again, this is a march for lives, that resolves this multifaceted issue. So I think this march with people calling upon different aspects such as gun control, mental health, I want people to focus on the fact that we need to prevent something so atrocious from ever happening. This is domestic terrorism, essentially.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And this is a multi-leveled issue that requires different solutions. It's not just one sweep all solution. It's not we ban all guns. It's not we fund more mental health. It's an all-out, multi-sided solution that we require. And before I let you go, is there one thing you would want the American population, I guess everyone in the world, to know about you that you haven't seen people convey about you on TV or online? Is there something that you feel like people are missing about you as human beings and as students? I think they forget that we're still in pain, and some of us aren't ready to just go back right into our lives and to school.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And like we go to school and there's still media there every day. There are people standing outside taking pictures like it's the Las Vegas sign. And it's still new for us. It's only been a month and a half and we're still in pain. Well, thank you so much for coming and joining us. I know people will be marching with you. You guys have motivated a nation. Thank you very much for your time. One more time, ladies and gentlemen, the amazing young students from MSD High. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the game show.
Starting point is 00:25:47 My guest tonight is the Emmy winning host and executive producer of Rupal's Drag Race, now in its 10th season. Please welcome Rupal Chao! Thank you so much. I feel like I'm at home here. You know we used to film our talk show here 20 years ago. That isn't the very same studio. So you were filming the show and you were what? Five? Well darling when you were five? Well darling when you were five? No, long time ago. You know, we used to film a long time ago. You have been in the game for a long time. You've been successful for a long time. I didn't choose the game. So. So you. So you. So you. So you the game. So you the game. So you the game. So you the game. So you the game. So you were. So you were. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the game. So you were the same. So you were filming. So you were filming. So you were filming. So you were filming. So you were filming. So you were filming. So you were the show. So you were the show. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you were. So you. So you. So, so. So, so. So, so. So, so, so. So, so, so, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. the. the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. So, the. Yeah, you have been in the game for a long time. You've been successful for a long time. I didn't choose the game. The game chose me.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Many people would argue that RuPaul is the reason drag became widely accepted in society. Is that a contradiction in a way, is that a paradox, drag being accepted? Because in many ways, drag is meant to buck mainstream, right? Yeah, no, drag really breaks the fourth wall. It really says, you are not who you think you are. You're actually playing a role. So most people can't accept the idea that they, too, are playing a role. So no, drag, I don't think of drag will ever really be mainstream unless people evolve
Starting point is 00:27:05 to this place where they are these existentialist gurus. What does drag mean for you though? Like I, I've seen you say that in many ways. Money, mortgage, mortgage, payment, car payment. You know? Yeah, I mean, it has paid your bills, but it's also done something really powerful in that, like, in many ways, it defies what masculinity is meant to be, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:32 It's a punk rock statement. It says to this masculine, dominated culture, you know, you know, I'm not going to fit in this box, I'm not going to fit in that box. I'm going to say, Who cares about boxes? Who cares about boxes? You know? And the only way I could survive this life was to just be a heckler and have fun with it. You know what? Everybody takes everything so seriously.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Take themselves seriously. I can't do that. I get what's in here? I can't do it. By Senator! The, uh, I would say that, that little moment there is the encapsulation of Rupol's drag race. It's, whoops see, what's in this? And blah, and like that.
Starting point is 00:28:15 No, because like, it's a really fun show and we're living in this world. And it's really controversial as well, like, the voting in the drag race, like this last season now people were really up in arms about who got chosen to be the winner. Like you guys basically brought in your own electoral college, why did you do that? You know, people, you know, all the girls are winners. You know, all the girls are winners, you know, whoever takes home the cash, that's a whole other subject, but they're all winners. But th. You th, you people people people people. You th, you people, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, th, th, th, th, th th thus, thus, tho, thus, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th th th th th th th th th that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th cash, that's a whole other subject, but they're all winners, they're all winners. But there's one winner with money.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Oh, trust me, those bitches are out there right now making $100,000 a night, you know? They are, they are pulling in the coinage, they are making the dollars, and they are all winners, and they are all winners. So, you know, but you know, the fans are outrageous, you know, they get excited, they get very excited. And so, it doesn't matter who wins, they're going to be talking, they're going to be whop, whop, blah, oh, she didn't, oh, and then she was up in there, I said, uh-uh, no, she didn't. They always do that, Trev, darling, thr. Trevor darling so it's just okay. It's okay. In fact we have we have another season starting up it's already starting up so they're gonna be talking about that one
Starting point is 00:29:32 too. If you could change one perception that people have of drag in the world what would that change be? You know what I learned years ago I can't change the world I could change my mind but I ain't concerned with other people? you think I'd be sitting in this seat if I was caring about what other people have to say ah no I mean I'm studying other people because other you know why because other people are crazy crazy they're crazy it really are what's in. What shit it is. I'm glad we both got some. Rupol, ladies and gentlemen. You tell Jack Race, has Thursdays at APM on VH1. Rupo, Charles.
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