The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Surprising Revelations from the El Chapo Trial | Chuck Todd

Episode Date: January 25, 2019

Former El Chapo associates tell all in their courtroom testimonies, Roy Wood Jr. discusses the worst call in NFL history, and "Meet the Press" moderator Chuck Todd stops by.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just what I was going for. Oh my God, they traded your baby for wine. Do you really think we would trade John for white Zinfandel? Or any wine? Frazier, new season streaming September 19th on Paramount Plus. January 24, 2019. From Comedy Central's World News headquarters in New York, this is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. How's it today? Welcome to the game show. I'm Trevor Loa. Thank you so much for tuning in.

And thank you for coming up. Our guest tonight is the host of Meet the Press on NBC. Chuck Todd is joining us tonight, everybody. It's going to be a fun conversation. Also on the show, Roywood Jr. is going to fix the NFL, and you'll find out why you should be very afraid of a man named Lollipop. But first, let's catch up on today's headlines. Venezuela. Venezuela.

Venezuela. Once South America's most affluent nation, it has recently descended into chaos and violence. Kind of like how Best Buy is usually a chilled place, but then on Black Friday, someone gets murdered over a toaster. And that's not a joke by the way. It's a true story. I'll I'. I' I' I' I' I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi thi. I'll thi. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I' th. I' th. I' th. I' th. I' th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll th. I'll thi. I'll to to to to to to to to to to to to to toda' to to to to to thi. to thi. thi Friday, someone gets murdered over a toaster. And that's not a joke, by the way. It's a true story. I'll miss you, Uncle Billy.

But I told you that was my toaster. Anyway, Venezuelans have been taking to the streets to protest food shortages and a collapsing economy with 10 million percent inflation. The man responsible for all of this is Venezuela's authoritarian leader, Nicholas Maduro. The people tried to vote him out last year, but he rigged the election. And so now, an opposition leader has stepped up to say, Basta! A violent power struggle playing out in Venezuela, opposition leader Juan Guido swore in as president, declaring that President Nicholas Maduro was unconstitutionally sworn

in for a second term. On a stage in downtown Caracas, in the the the th th th th thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, thous, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, itutionally sworn in for a second term. On a stage in downtown Caracas, in front of a crowd of thousands, 35-year-old Juan Guido raised his right hand and administered his own oath of office. I swear to formally assume the powers of the national executive as the president in charge of Venezuela. This is pretty historic. A 35-year-old just swore himself in as the new president of Venezuela. This is pretty historic. A 35-year-old just swore himself in as the new president of Venezuela. Yeah, the world's first selfie inauguration. Very millennial.

Very millennial. And not only do a ton of Venezuelan support Juan Waido, he also has the support of major world leaders, including Trump, Merkel, Trudeau, Tresa May and Tony the Tiger. This is a big deal. And now, moving on to another formerly prosperous country that is now falling into unrest, the United States. It is now day 34 of the government's shutdown, the longest in American history, and the effects continue to pile up. A major border security conference has been canceled, flood recovery efforts have been stalled, and the government is so broke, the Secret Service has now been replaced by mall cops.

And on top of all of that, President Trump's state of the union address is officially canceled. Overnight, President Trump blinking in his State of the Union's stare down with Nancy Pelosi. The President writing in a late night tweet, I will do the address when the shutdown is over. I am not looking for an alternative venue for the State of the Union address, because there is no venue that can compete with a history, tradition, and importance of the House Chamber. Oh, look at that. Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi facing off,

and Trump blinked first, which of course we knew would happen because Nancy Pelosi does not blink. And personally, I think postponing the state of the Union will be good for Trump's approval rating because Americans are very supportive of him not speaking. It's a thing they enjoy. Now, for many people, the shutdown still feels abstract, especially if you don't rely on government for assistance. People are like, what do I care? I'm flying first class.

Well, not for long. Pilots, flight attendants and air air traffic controllers are expressing growing concern saying air safety is deteriorating by the day as the government shutdown drags on. Their unions issued a joint statement saying they can't even predict the point at which the entire system will break. Oh, hell no. They can't predict when the system, like, now the shutdown is affecting air traffic control? Like if I was a pilot, I wouldn't even play around with this nonsense.

I'd be like, ladies and gentlemen, we've reached out cruising altitude of 50 feet, 50 feet, just gonna play it safe today, folks. But this is crazy. You realize without properly staffed air traffic control, pilots are asking how safe it is to fly. And Spirit Airline pilots are asking, what's air traffic control? Spirit Airlines, we shut down the day we opened. Moving on from current events to ancient events. An ancient stone circle that fascinated archaeologists is fake.

Scientists were excited when they first discovered these rocks last year at a farm in rural Scotland. They were estimated to be around 4,000 years old. However, the farm's former owner has come forward saying he actually built the circle in the 1990s. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. No, come on, guys. Really, the 90s? How can you not tell if something is that young? Are you an archaeologist or R. Kelly? No, no, you're right. He's a good guy. I shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have said that. But like, this, this archaeology story only makes me feel like I'm even more right about something I believe for a very long time. Most archaeology is bullshit. Yeah, I said it.

You know how many times they say something something something something something something somethingand years old and then we find out it's actually from IKEA? Like, it's the same thing with dinosaurs. You really think the T-Rex was real? Look at that thing. It makes no sense. None of it. Like, when have you ever seen another animal with a massive body and tiny little arms? And don't say Trump, right, right, right, right, right, right, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th. It's thi, it's th- th- th- like, it's th. It's th. It's th. It's that, it, it, it. It's that, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's. It's, it's. It's it's it's it's it's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's, like T-Rex, what did they hunt? Corn on the cob? N-ng-n-n-gna-n-n-nang. Can I tell you what I think happened? This is what I think happened. A hundred years ago, they found bones for a mom dinosaur and a baby dinosaur, and they were all mixed up. But you just have to look at it too. No, it's wrong. People, this is wrong. This is not a normal thing.

It's like, when I was a kid, right, I had a bunch of dolls that I would play with. And if I had an old Barbie doll, I'd snap in the GI Joe arms. And then I'd put the Barbie legs on my turtle. So some archaeologist is going to find thooo'n't tho-a. Ancient Turtles had very sexy legs. Get the fuck out of here, man. T-Rex my ass. Also, aliens killed Kennedy. All right, let's move on to our main story. The trial of the notorious drug lord El Chappo Guzman. You may have missed that he's currently on trial in a Brooklyn courthouse, because you've probably been focusing on the criminal who's in the White House.

Pique resistance. Anyway, the trial of the world's biggest drug lord has reached its halfway point. And what we've learned so far is m'i-loco. Prosecutors are expected to rest their case this week in the federal trial of the notorious Mexican drug lord, Waukine El Chappo Guzman. Drugs, sex, murder, and betrayal. Since November, a real-life drama has been unfolding in Brooklyn federal court. The villain, according to prosecutors, is 61-year-old Wacene their chappo Guzman. Former associates testified that El Chappo protected his drug pipeline into the US with violence and bribes, including $100 million to former Mexican president, Enrique Pena Nieto, who denies the allegation.

God damn, El Chappo might have bribed the ex-Mexican president $100 million dollars. Although to be fair, the Mexican president has already denied it from the deck of his $101 million yachts. But that is just like one of the crazy revelations from this trial, right? There are so many things that we've learned that sound like they're straight out of a movie. And the way we're learning all of these secrets is because many of El Chappo's former henchmen are testifying theirchape's, testified. Most are convicted drug traffickers who are betraying El Chappo in exchange for more lenient sentences.

Including Hermann Barbas Rosero, the beard, and Juan Carlos Chupetta Ramirez, Lollipop. Ramirez admitted to killing 150 people. Wow, that was an emotional roller coaster for you guys, huh? Yeah, like, ha, his name is Lollipop. He killed 150 people. I don't think that's funny at all. There's not, Lollipop is a very formal name. I like that name. I wonder how he got that nickname.

Yeah? There's just going around the room and the boss was like, you, I just be no beard, man? Why gotta be Lollipop? Because you're so sweet, man. Oh, I love you guys. Now let's go kill someone. Now, believe it or not, the weirdest thing we learned about Lollipop isn't the fact that his name is Lollipop, or the fact that he's Ramirez admitted to killing 150 people. To hide from police, he used plastic surgery.

My jawbone, my cheekbones, my eyes, my mouth. My pussy and my crack. Sorry, I thought we were singing, no? Okay, now, this, I don't understand. If you're trying to hide from the police, it's probably a bad idea to give yourself the world's most distinctive face. What is this? The cops are just going to be like, okay guys, we're on the lookout for a guy who looks

like a mannequin, Fidel Castro. That's what we're looking for. Who did this surgery? This is the first time in history that anyone has looked better in a courtroom sketch than in real life. But a creepy man-sized doll wasn't the biggest witness in this trial. No, that honor goes to El Chappo's IT guy. The star witness was El Chappo's personal tech guru Christian Rodriguez.

He told jurors how El Choppo ordered him to install spy called called FlexiSpy on 50 Blackberries, including the phones of his wife and mistress. The fellow who set up all of the wiretap, set up the encryption, then got caught by the FBI, started working for the FBI, and eventually hacked into his own system for the FBI. So, El Chappo got his IT guy to spy on the people who worked for him. And then the FBI got the IT guy to spy on El Chappo, which is a good lesson for everyone. Be nice to your IT guy.

Yeah. He nice to him. Is he here right now? Yeah. He may be condescending. He may give you a hard time when you forget your password. And he may smell like boiled hot dogs, but that dude knows everything. By the way, Dennis, if you're watching, I love you and you smell great, please don't

leak my nudes. All right, man. And can we just for a moment, can we look at this courtroom sketch? Why are you drawing a guy's face and then blacking it out? Just don't draw the face. Like what is the, like, oh maybe we're just looking at it wrong. Maybe this guy was just on the witness stand wearing a VR headset.

He was like, so then I installed a program on his, ah, sorry, I'm on a roller coaster right now. So it turn, this IT guy is one of the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggestthis IT guy is one of the biggest reasons El Chappo might be going down, and he only agreed to turn because the FBI paid him. Of course now, because of the shutdown, the FBI says they don't have money to pay more informants like him anymore. Yeah. Oh, and here's another thing. The U.S. Marshals, who are guarding the shutdown, And now I'm not saying they're going to be bribed, but if there's anyone you want to be extra careful with, it's El Chappo.

This guy has escaped from prison twice already, which is why whenever they move him around, they're got to hold the back of his neck like he's a baby cat. Yeah. They also make him poop in a little box for fun. And remember, the reason El Chappell Became the most powerful drug load in history is that he figured out how to smuggle more drugs across the border than anybody else. And during this trial, we found out how he's done it. The US Coast Guard led a team on a drug bust off the coast of Guatemala

in 2008. They intercepted a huge cash according to federal prosecutors. $100 million of cocaine. But that's no ordinary drug boat. It's actually more like a submarine. And just one of Joaquin Alchapo Guzman's smuggling tricks, according to prosecutors. If the sub didn't work, there were tunnels, trucks, or planes. Just part of the evidence presented so far in the narco-trafficker trial of the century. This is insane. El Chappo was using planes, tunnels, and even submarines to smuggle drugs into the U.S.

So I guess it's a good thing that Trump is building that wall. Yeah. You know, the sad thing is, even if Trump sees this trial, it won't change his mind. If anything, he'll probably just double down. tunne, tunne, tunne, the the tunne, the the tun't, the tun't, tun't, the tun't, tun't the tun't tun't the tun't tun't tunnenes. tuns. thuns, thunnu. thuns. thuns, thunn' thunn' thunn' thunn' thunn' thunnels. thunnels. thunnels. thunnels. thunnels. thunnels. thunnels. thunnue. thunnue. thunn' thunne. th. thunn' th. thun't thun't thun't thun't thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. the. to be to be to be to to to to to to toeean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toean. toean. thean. thean. if Trump sees this trial, it won't change his mind. If anything, he'll probably just double down. He'll be like, you know what, forget the wall, folks. We're building a dome. And who's gonna pay for it? LallyPOP.

We'll be right back. tooom. He's back. Streaming soon on Paramount Plus. This is Dr. Frazier Crane. I'm listening. He's back again. Hey dad, I got a question about punctuation. Ooh! No, stay on task. And he's more Frazier than ever. How do I look?

Rich. Just what I was going for. Oh my God, they traded your baby for wine. Do you really think we would trade John for white Zinfandel, or any wine. Frazier, new season streaming September 19th on Paramount Plus. Welcome back to the daily show. The Super Bowl is coming up next Sunday. And for Tom Brady, this is his ninth one, which is amazing. You realize one more Super Bowl and he gets a free sandwich.

But despite all the excitement for the big game, many football fans are still talking about the team not playing in Atlanta. And for more on that, we turn to our very own Roywood Jr. everybody. No, no, no, silence. No, let's get right to it, Trevor. The wrong team is playing in the Super Bowl. Last Sunday's game, last Sunday's game had the worst call I've ever seen since I decided to go commando under a graduation rope.

There was no way to know that the lights on that stage would be so intense. It showed the outline and everything. Anyway, Saints fans are pissed, and they have every right to be. You don't have to be a Saints fan to be upset by this. You don't have to be a football fan, even a sports fan, but just a fan of basic fairness. It's being referred to as one of the worst missed calls

in play off the taugh-s. The New Orleans thi the the Super Bowl after referees didn't throw the flag on this play. Many call it a glaring case of past interference. The player made an illegal tackle right in front of the ref and that ref didn't take out the penalty flag. He didn't take it out his pocket. Trevor, I'm pretty sure this referee is the first dude to get in trouble for not pulling something out of his pants. Penas, I'm talking about penis. Look, I'm just come out and say it, plain and simple. This is the worst thing to ever happen to the people of New Orleans.

Nothing else comes close. Roy, I think you're forgetting about Hurricane Katrina. Oh yeah, that's my bad. This is tied with Hurricane Katrina as the worst thing to happen in New Orleans. But unlike a hurricane, saints fans can take this disaster to court. The Saints lose the game. The fans lose the game. The fans lose their minds, buying billboards in Atlanta where the Super Bowl will be played without them. Rob, they say. A petition with over half a million signatures calls for a rematch. So does a lawsuit filed today on behalf of season ticket

holders, alleging emotional trauma and nothing less than the loss of enjoyment of life. Loss of enjoyment of life. You know how upsetting something has to be to make people from New Orleans stop enjoying life. They got Bourbon Street, they got Mardi Gras. Even the funerals look like a halftime show. Oh, you heard Granddaddy died? Yeah. Well, let's have a parade. Plunk, Plomp, plump, blan. Yo, Roy, I'm sorry, man.

Riff's mess up calls all the time. It's part of sport. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. This happened. Meanwhile, one sports book in New Jersey is refunding all wagers on the Saints, tweeting, Just think of it as good karma. Bookies. Bookies.

The people who break your knees when you don't pay are giving refunds. Refunds. They're probably going around door to door. Hey, sorry about the Saints, man. That's a tough break. Here's your thumbs back, my apology. Yeah, okay, but, what do you want the NFL to do about it? They can't just replay the whole game? You don't have to replay the game.

This is an easy fix, man. The problem is that the other questionable call, they go and huddle around that little TV like they're watching the peep show. So the NFL should just allow instant replay for past interference, too. That's all you gotta do. It's simple. You know what? That's a great idea, Roy.

I agree with you. In fact, we should just use instant replay for everything in life. We already got cameras everywhere, traffic cameras, body cameras. Did you know that iPhones are built with a camera already inside of them? Yeah, I think everyone knows that, Roy. Well, they must have just started doing it. Look, the point is, anytime there's a disagreement about anything, anything in life, we should be able to throw out a flag and check out the instant replay. Two people fighting over a parking spot?

Brrrh! Go to the replay. The pickup truck got there after the Prius, therefore the vegan gets the parking space. Just throw the flag. Oh, oh, you want to split the check 55th at dinner? Br-r! Go to the replay, Deborah. The tape shows that you had more drinks and ate my cheese sticks when I was in the bathroom. I'm only paying $10. But, but Deborah, if you're watching us,

I do hope we get a chance to go out again. I really to a really great idea. I know, I have great ideas, Trevor. That's why you said you'd give me a 20% raise. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you talking about? I never said that. Oh, is that what you think, Trevor? Wh-hew-yie? Roywood Jr. has challenged the ruling at the desk.

Let's go to the replay to see what to see the the to see the to see the the the to see to see the the to the replay to see what Trevor said to Roy about giving him a 20% raise. You know what? That's a great idea, Roy. I agree with you. Whoa, whoa, no, no, no, no, wait. I know. You took me out of context. No. The challenge is upheld. Roy gets a 20% raise, and so does the referee. You know what? Get out of you. Roywood Junior, Michael Costa, everybody. By the way, by the way, don't forget, Roywood Jr. has a brand-up special.

It's called No One Loves You's one of the funniest stand-of comedians you ever seen. It's airing Friday night at 11pm Comedy Central. Make sure you watch it. We'll be right back. Welcome back to your daily show. My guest tonight is the NBC News political director and moderator of Meet the Press as well as host of MTP Daily on MSNBC. Please welcome, Chuck Todd. Welcome to the show. We got to do this slimming butt. This is good.

Oh, you do the button when you sit. Sure, I guess I'd have to. Yeah, I guess I'd have to. Yeah, sometimes it's open. to you're button. Sure, I guess I'd have to. Yeah, I'll have to sometimes. for me. Welcome to it. My real fear is always people seeing my bare legs. You're bare legs? Show the people your bare legs. Not at all. Come on, Chuck. Show the people your thoughts. Now your fear is gone. Yeah, the fear is gone. You face your

fears. There it is. Welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us. From your point of you as somebody who has to watch this and and reports on it every single day. Where do you see the shutdown ending? I actually believe it might actually end this weekend. I think there's an actual real chance that it looks like the president is finally realizing he's not going to get his way. I think he's finally seen, I mean that was the whole point of these Senate votes, show him, it was a bit of show and tell, right? Some presidents need show and tell thell on that front. I don't know what you're talking about. And so they showed him.

And they showed him that, oh look, the Democratic bill got more Republican votes than your bill. So it's clear to me he's looking for an exit ramp. They want out of this. Everybody wants out of this in Washington. And I actually think that maybe by the weekend. I actually think this th th th it true that you were at the White House when he gave that address to the country, that primetime address? He hosted a bunch of us for lunch beforehand for an off-the-record conversation. What is the purpose?

What is the purpose? What is the purpose? What's the purpose of those off-the-record conversations? If you are the press, I've always wanted to know, if you can't tell us what it's about, what's the purpose? Well, the purpose is they're trying to make us seem smarter on the air, I think. Oh, we think the president, this is what's going into his thinking on the speech. A person close, a person close, a person, th. to their, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, is a. their, their, is a. their, is their, is their, is their. their. their. their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their, is their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. try. try. their. trying. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I've done these with President Obama, I've done these with President Trump. The best part of them are actually when it's not about the speech. It's when you're finding about other things. Are you finding about, you know, you do actually get an opportunity, what are you thinking

over here with Syria? Or what are you thinking on this front? So they actually are helpful. I think, I think, they, to help, to help, to help, to help, to help, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's. It's. It's. I. I. I. I. I. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the record. You have a chance of getting some, I think, idea of what the truth is. But what is your relationship with him? Because, I mean, it's a great question. We have the show, we have the show, we have the show connected. What is your relationship with him? I have no relationship with him. He does not see me, he does not know. You on the other hand, he mentioned you at a rally, was that infamous rally where he was talking up, and he's like, I was on a show, meet the press with sleepy eyes Chuck Todd,

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the media blows up. Do you think that the press has to do more to make sure that their stories are correct? Do you think that, like, cable news shouldn't be reporting what has been reported until they verify themselves? How do you think you can fix this? Or is ways, there's two ways to look at it. We can sit here and ring our hands and say, why can't BuzzFeed have the New York Times editors edit their stories? Right. Which is essentially I feel like sometimes what they expect. Like, how come you at NBC News Chuck Cod can't verify their reporting?

Right. I actually will look at it this way. That look, we live in this open source world world Social media, we live in an open source world. Guess what? Within 24 hours, as loudly as BuzzFeed landed is as loudly as it was retracted. Right. And I think the biggest beef people have with the press is when a mistake is made, the retractions a whisper. It was always on page 8-2. In this case, I would say, whatever you want to say, would I get rid of social media tomorrow, all those things. There th. th. th. th. th. Thes. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe. thoe. tho. tho. thoe. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe, thoe, thoe, thoe, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thin, thin. And, thin. And, thin, tho. And, the. And, thooooo. And, the. And, the. And, the. thoooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, th. And media tomorrow, all those things? There's a lot of things I would love to fix. But this is the world we live in. Donald Rumsfeld once said, right, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want.

The system worked as best as it could. The system worked. You saw that it got outthat's as best as we can hope for in this media environment. It's interesting that it feels like the media and the news has found a way to adapt to reporting on President Trump. You know, I remember when he first started, people gave him the benefits of the doubt. People would say a lot of, well, what I think he meant to say, well, I think the meaning, and what's been interesting is let's say, let's the shutdown, the shutdown, the shutdown, the shutdown, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, the media, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thr-a, is thr-a. thr-s. thr-a. thi. thee. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee feels feels feels feels feels thi. thi. thi, feels I think the meaning, and what's been interesting is let's say with the shutdown in particular, I find that news has been very quick to say the shutdown, President Trump blaming the Democrats, even though he said he's creating the shutdown and he will own the shutdown, and the news the shutdown, and the news the shutdown, and the news, the

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And I think there was a lot of that. It just a bad habit. I can tell you this, everybody's handling the Trump error in different ways. I just a simple motto which is, say what you see. It's as simple as that. Our job in Washington, the ultimate job of a reporter is to write what you observe, right? Say what you see. Don't try to explain it and do backflips. Say what you see. Why is the president, you know, why is

the president tweeting about this? Explain why he's doing it. Go ahead and show maybe what he's saying, but give it contest and explain it. Say what you see. I think too often, we covered, covered up is the wrong word. We sort of, we almost rounded the edges of what we saw. We gave a better picture. Oh, that's an ugly. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. they. they. they. they. they. they. thiiii. they. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. they. thi. they. they. thi. thi. toe. toe. the the toe. the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. Why. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. the th. th. the th. saw. We gave a better picture because it's almost like, ooh, that's an ugly picture. Country doesn't want to see that. We should make it better. You know what? Rip the band-aid off. Let's see it.

And by the way, too long, you and your colleagues were the ones ripping the band-aid off. And that was actually a problem. We needed to rip our own band-aid off. And you, I would say in many ways, the satyrists, I think in that way, led the way for us, you know what, there's nothing wrong with ripping the band-aid off. It's interesting. You did it with a sense of humor. Maybe we could use a sense of a sense of tomememe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to the news. One thing that I found particularly impressive and revolutionary was you were hosting a show

on climate change and you came out and you said, we're not going to have any climate change deniers as part of this discussion. You got a lot of flack from a lot of people on the right, a lot of conservatives who said, why are you, why are you censoring these voices, Chuck Todd? Why you not allowing these people. We the the debate. We the debate. We the debate. We the debate. We the debate. We are tha. We are tha. We are tha. We're tha. We're tha. We're tha. tha. tho. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thathea. thoome. thoomoomoome. thoome. thoome. thoome. thoom. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're, thi. We're, th. We're, thi. We're, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to, thi. too. too. too. toooo. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. toea. thea. ththese people on the show? We had a robust debate about taxes. Right. That's the debate. The debate is, what do you do about this? But not for climate change? Why not? Well, I also didn't invite anybody who didn't believe in the moon landing? And I also didn't invite anybody who was a flat earther. Is that all right? But when somebody says to you, Chuck Todd, the press, the press, the press, the press, the press, the press, the press, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, what to, what to, what to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, what to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate, the debate is, to to to to to to to to to to to to to you, Chuck Todd, the press should be giving everyone an equal voice. That is no, I think we are, our job is to be fair.

Our job is to be fair to the facts that are there. Fair to the position. Look, I think it is an open debate. How do we price carbon? Okay? It is an open debate. We're seeing the yellow jacket, protesters in France. T. T. the th. th.......................... to. to. to. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be. the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their job. their their job. their job. their job. their their their their their their class shouldn't have to pay for this alone. There's no doubt. This is a real debate. How do we do this? That's a real debate. How do we, how do we mitigate climate change? How do we, if we're going to build sea walls, where do we build them and who pays for that? That is the debate. I had a, I had an array of the the the the they. I array of people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people the the the the the the the the array of people the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, the the the the the th. I, how do, how do, how do, how do, how do, how do, how th. I, how th. I, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the no, don't put the... But that was the conversation. That's the debate, right? Which is, how are we going to do this?

Where do we find the money? And who pays for it? Mexico. Right. Man, if Mexico's economy gets humming, I guess they're going to solve all the world's problems, right? But you ask who's going to pay the to pay, who's going to to pay, who's going to to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, the, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, where, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, to, to, to, the, to, to, to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to? to.a, too, to. too, where, where, where, where, where, the, where, the, a real thing? Here's what I don't get. It's simply an insurance policy. Like, why wouldn't you not want it? Let's say you don't believe in it.

What's wrong with, well, maybe, you know, what's wrong with a little insurance policy? Right. I mean, you know, it's like I had a relative on their yes. Even if you're not sure, it's changing in front of us. Right. Okay, so if it's the, if it's Mother Nature doing it, you still got to adapt. Right. Thank you so much for being on the show, my friend. Great having you here.

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