The Daily Show: Ears Edition - TDS Time Machine | Iran: Behind the Veil w/ Jason Jones
Episode Date: March 1, 2026As long simmering tensions between the United States and Iran have again boiled over into military action, we take a look back to 2009, when Daily Show correspondent Jason Jones visited Iran on the ev...e of citizen protests against the regime that erupted into violence. In his four part series "Behind the Veil" Jason visits Tehran to interact with everyday Iranians, and talk to activists and journalists like Ebrahim Yazdi, and Maziar Bahari, who was arrested and imprisoned for his participation, but returned to discuss his incarceration with Jon Stewart. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Last week, we sent our own senior foreign correspondent, Jason Jones, to Iran.
Really? We did that.
That was stupid.
Obviously, we didn't know there was going to be a dictatorial and somewhat violent crackdown on its people.
Now, Mr. Jones did get out of Iran before the election from,
what we've been told.
But we believe the reports
he will be filing starting tonight
present an interesting snapshot
of a nation unaware of the destiny
which awaits it. Tonight,
the first of Jason Jones reports.
The Islamic Republic of Iran,
a nation in upheaval,
a powder keg waiting to explode.
But as we empathize
with these courageous souls who are
risking their lives to take a stand
for democracy in the face of oppression,
let us not forget, these people are evil.
But just what is it that makes them so evil?
I hadn't signed up for Twitter,
so the only way to find out was to go and see for myself.
As I touched down at Comania Airport on my 36th birthday,
I was completely alone.
No American Embassy, no alcohol,
not even exposed ankles to Lear-at.
I have a wife and children.
Please don't hurt me.
Even leaving the hotel presented potential risk.
Red wire, glue wire.
But I assured my producer Tim Greenberg
that as long as he was with me, there was nothing to fear.
First up, I made contact with my translator, Mahmoud.
We headed to a coffee shop off Azadi Square
for a clandestine meeting with Iranian journalist Maziar Bahari.
I was told he'd go by the code name Pistachio,
and I would recognize him by...
Oh.
I didn't see you there.
I asked him the question on every Westerner's mind.
Why was his country so terrifying?
In one word, misunderstanding.
The two sides, they don't understand each other.
They don't know the values of the other side.
They don't know how to talk to the other side.
And actually, I've written about that for Newsweek magazine several times.
Yeah, I didn't understand a word of that.
Mamu, can you translate this for me, please?
Yes, he's saying that he's written about this problem that you have in music,
magazine and he can read about it.
Okay.
What did he say?
He said that I said I've written about it for Newsweek magazine several times.
I'm going to need someone who speaks English.
The one thing I could understand was that this entire country is evil.
The first thing to know about Iran is that it's not evil.
Iranians and Americans, they have much more in common than they have a difference.
What do I have in common with you?
Who is number one enemy of the United States?
States. Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda is also the number one enemy of Iran. According to Al-Qaeda members,
any Shia, any Iranian has to be killed. And if you kill an Iranian, you would go to heaven and you
will have 70 virgins. Enough of his Western-educated Newsweek double-speak. The real seething
anger was on the streets. American people are nice people. Yeah, I like America. The people are
really friendly, very good, very good people. I like the people. I have friends in America.
A less well-trained eye might not see through their deceptions.
So when did you start hating Americans?
To hating Americans?
What do you mean?
Hate it? Never.
No, no. We never hate them.
We're just trying to do a thing here where we say,
Iranians like hate Americans. Can you just do that for me?
You would like me to hate, to?
Yeah, could you?
To hate?
Yeah, please.
No. Why not?
I'm not hate of Americans.
I'm not the case.
No, no, no.
Apparently, they didn't feel free to express their hatred for us in public, so Mahmoud secured
an invitation to a private Iranian home.
Hello, thank you.
Oh, you have a beautiful cave.
Thank you.
If I could just earn their trust, I could finally pierce this clannish society and expose their
true feelings.
Our meeting began with traditional small talk.
It was clear that I was going to have to break the eyes.
So what did one Jewish bird say to the other Jewish bird?
Because they're cheap, you know, and they look like birds with their big noses.
Wow, that joke went right over their heads.
We don't hate Jews, we don't hate anybody actually.
We don't hate Americans.
As the night wore on, it became painfully obvious.
Engagement with these people was futile.
The gap was too wide.
Conflict was inevitable.
It's your birthday, Kate.
You're like my perfect family.
Thank you.
People weren't for that guy.
The look on his face told me one thing.
I wasn't getting my carton of cigarettes back from his daughter.
It looked like I was in for a very long week.
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Obviously, the situation in Iran is fluid and very dangerous.
and much more fluid and dangerous than we thought it was going to be when we sent Jason Jones there.
So, while he had gone to Iran in pursuit of a comedy piece, he met some people who were in pursuit there of much more.
Iran scares us.
But who scares Iran?
The elderly leader of the freedom movement, Ibrahim Yazi, was arrested from his sickbed yesterday.
Amongst those arrested, Mohamed Abtai, a leading reformist and former vice president.
Newsweek magazine's Mazia Bahari was detained without charge Sunday morning.
Luckily, just two weeks ago I was able to sit down with the Axis of Evils.
Axis of Evil.
First up, Ibrahim Yazdi.
One glimpse of his fearsome visage and his trained attack lovebirds told me all I needed to know.
I'd have to play this one carefully.
My name?
Abraham Yazdi.
I'm just going to call you Colonel Sanders.
of Colonel Sanders.
I don't have any sandwich.
You'd make a lot of money with the sandwich shop.
Well, I'm satisfied with what I have.
But there are some things this leader of Iran's freedom movement is not so satisfied with.
I am opposing American deeds in Iran.
I'm opposing American policy towards Iran.
I think that the American religions actually help the heartliner in Iran.
The former president, Bush, called Iran, the access of evil.
Why did he call you the excess of evil, though?
Ask him.
Well, I know why. You're evil.
How can you prove that we are evil?
You're part of an axis.
We are not. We don't have anything to do with Saddam Hussein or with North Korea.
You are looking at your own picture in the mirror.
Well, that's what I'd like to look at.
Both of us we need to cooperate.
Why, you don't look at that angle?
And it's just that kind of intolerance that led the government
to drag him from his hospital bed and throw him in prison.
in prison. But he was nothing compared to Iranian-born Newsweek contributor Maziar Bihari
and his message of radical reasonableness. I think people should stop saying death
for America in Iran. You know, you say death to America, the other part says that's
access of evil. So, and the both sides are idiots, basically. Wait, did he just call us all idiots?
No wonder they arrested him from his mother's home without charging him. It was clear I'd been too
soft and engaging with Iran.
With my final subject, Muhammad Ali Abtehi,
I would not show weakness.
Hello.
How are you?
Welcome to Iran.
Thank you.
You know what, I'm not going to do this.
I can't sit down here without any preconditions, okay?
So, unless you agree to my preconditions, I am not sitting down to interview you.
You tell him that.
Yeah, I'm not going to be able to come to come.
I actually, I don't know what I'm, I'm
I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm.
Whatever, it is, I accepted and you can sit down.
Oh, you, you accepted?
Yeah.
I didn't, I didn't think you were gonna do that.
Pre-conditions, preconditions, pre-condition, all right.
I want to sit in this chair.
Yes, yes, is this for you?
Yeah, I will.
Yes, it is for me.
Next.
Next.
I want to take home this book.
Which book it is?
This one, Dictionary of Religious Terms.
Yes, this is a gift to you.
Yeah, I will take it as a gift.
Okay, this is going easier than I thought.
But things went quickly downhill as he threw one bombshell after another.
I have an institute about dialogue between religions,
and I have written a lot about women's rights.
You are pro women's rights?
Certainly.
Nuclear weapons?
No.
You don't support a nuclear bomb in Iran?
No.
In Iran or in any country?
You sound like a threat to me.
Which one is a threat?
You are a threat.
You are a threat to every caricature of an Islamic cleric I have ever seen.
In the conservative newspapers, they say the same thing.
But I'm not scary, as you can see from what I write in my weblog every day.
You've got a blog?
Yes.
Oh, God.
Can someone get me a real cleric in here, please?
Perhaps we'll all sleep a little easy.
sleep a little easier tonight knowing these men are off the street and not making
spooky predictions about the future if I say anything juvenile or even
slightly offensive I would like not to be arrested well I would also like a
promise that they don't arrest me Jason Jones now right now with me tonight
we're very pleased to have the son of Ibrahim Yazdi who we just saw on the piece
seems to be a very lovely man and yet was arrested.
When was he arrested?
Last week, right after the election.
And they took him from his hospital in Iran.
Right, in Tehran.
Do you have any updates for us that you can...
Yeah, I spoke with him this morning.
After he got ill when he was in prison,
they took him back to the hospital
and he had an emergency procedure
and he's recovering now in the hospital.
Now, so he's in the hospital now.
What measures is the Iranian government taking now
to prevent his escape because clearly this man is a threat and uh i don't know i don't know how is he how is he
feeling optimistic is he feeling pessimistic he's usually a very optimistic person but this morning
he was really down what what in his mind what does he think what's got him feeling that way now
it's the hundreds of people that have been rounded up and historically they've not they've not
not been treated well.
So in 1999, when similar uprising happened,
people that were caught on video tapes, they were held for decades
simply because they showed up in the video of a demonstration.
So we're all very, very concerned for the people who
are in this demonstrations, who have been arrested,
rounded up, both reform leaders and people
that just picked up in the streets.
Why are they picking them up?
It's a good question.
They're afraid of them.
That's a good question.
I think that's a question we should ask the Iranian
government.
What can anybody do anything here?
What can anybody do?
I think we can let the Iranian people, the Iranian government know that the world is watching
them.
Maybe send letters and ask the question of the Iranian embassies around the world, say, you
know, what's happening?
Why are you doing this?
We don't understand what we're seeing on TV.
Please explain to us why you feel it necessary to do this.
What about the idea that America being a very easy scapegoat for them and the idea that if
we do anything we're seen as meddling and would cause the demonstrators more harm than good.
That's true.
That's why I think if people did it themselves, it would be more effective.
Rather than government, but from the people.
I think so, yeah.
That would be more effective.
Well, will you please keep in touch and let us know how things go for your father?
And we can't tell you how much we appreciate you coming in and how much we appreciated your father speaking to us over there.
And just what a lovely man that everybody who met him thought he was and he can't wait until he gets back out.
Thank you.
It's great to see it.
Thank you so much.
We'll be right back.
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When Jason Jones went to Iran, he had no idea what he would find.
because he thought we were sending him to France.
It was, it's quite a prank.
But the biggest surprise turned out to be the people.
Here's part three of Jason Jones' report, behind the veil.
I had come to Iran to learn what this country we've been cut off from for decades was all about.
I immersed myself in their customs, their food, their drink.
What kind of country has a drinking hose beside the toilet?
It's stupid.
And their language.
Marhabha, Masa al-Hagh.
Yeah, I don't speak Arabic.
We speak Persian, you're wrong.
I studied Arabic for ten months.
Oh, Khalkal-Kape.
But after 30 years with no diplomatic relations,
was their knowledge of us frozen in time?
Who's the President in the United States?
No, Mr. Obama.
Who's our current President in the United States?
Mr. Obama.
Obama?
Uh, Obama.
Please, two can play at that game.
It was time for jihad walking.
Imam Square versus Times Square.
Tell me who is the current president of Iran?
Adjavadjadjur John or something like that?
Jemette.
Say it again?
Just medicine.
Okay, but can they do any better?
Mr. Bush?
Before him.
Clinton, yeah, Clinton.
And before Clinton, his father, yeah.
They thought they were Mr. Bush.
Before that bush?
Before that bush, it was Mr. Reagan.
Mr. Reagan, yeah.
Before him?
Carter, it was Mr. Carter, yeah?
Well, it's not Sadat, so I don't want to show him during.
Yeah.
Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy.
Ah, ah, man.
It's a hard name to say.
It's not really.
Who's the Speaker of the House?
Mrs. Pelosi.
Okay, but who's the minority whip?
I don't know.
Yeah, this guy doesn't know who the minority whip is.
I remember Mr. Ford also.
I remember Mr. Ford.
And before Ford, the Watergate happened.
What was his name?
His name?
He was Nixon, yeah.
All right.
How about a little geography?
What's a name of a country in the Middle East
that starts with Ai and is not Iraq?
A country in the East?
I don't know.
Los Angeles.
New York?
Name a city in Iran.
Karan?
No?
That's their holy book.
Oh.
San Jose, Berkeley, and Syracuse.
I.R.A.
I don't know.
I r a N.
India.
Iran.
It doesn't ring a bell?
The country of Iran.
I never heard of it.
Washington.
What district is it in?
This is no Colombia?
Fine, but these were Diji-eating liberal urban elites.
I needed to find some real Iranians.
So I headed out into the country.
countryside, deep, deep into the countryside.
Goatherder, it's go time.
Detroit.
Detroit.
Okay, so who isn't a Red Wings fan?
Yudica.
How the f***c have you heard of Utica?
You've pathetic America.
Until...
What is a city in Iran?
Tehran.
Yes!
Not so fast, Iran.
What is America's Independence Day?
Independent Day.
It is four.
of July. Of what year? In 1776.
No. Current president of Iran.
Ahmadinajan. Oh, here we go.
Can you name the three branches of the American government?
Government, yeah. Legislative, judiciary.
Yes.
And the bureaucracy. What's the name?
Wrong, executive.
Executive, executive, yeah.
You don't know nothing about the States.
I don't know the supreme leader.
Come in.
Ah, suck in Iran!
Woo!
Ah, victory was sweet.
But I realized these people deserve not scorn, but pity.
After all, they are completely cut off from the Western world.
I work for a TV show called The Daily Show.
The Daily Show.
John Stewart?
Hello, John.
I'm a fan.
How are you?
Yeah, good more regards to John.
You watch The Daily Show?
I do.
Ha ha ha ha, I'm the decider.
Yeah, you know.
Jason Jones, everybody...
...fleets his journey behind the veil.
His searing portrait of one fake reporter's trip to the very real Iran.
At what was both the best and worst time possible.
Enjoy.
As I had witnessed, Iran is many things.
But with 70% of its population under 30, more than anything, it's a country of young people.
But who are they and what are they into?
What would you call these pantaloons?
It's a diesel, the brand.
Diesel?
Yeah.
And your, uh, your top?
Dolce and Gabana.
Galcha and... Gabana.
Gabana.
And what about your footwear?
It's Adidas.
Adidas.
Yeah.
That's a native brand?
Yeah, it's a limited edition.
They shared with me their games.
A second wins in the state.
Second wins in the state.
the best and I shared hours.
Hey, this isn't football, okay?
This is football.
All they needed was a little East Texas style encouragement.
Chubby, I want you on a 20-yard break.
I want you on a 30-yard fly route.
I want you on an 80-yard post.
On three, break.
One, two, three, break.
Okay, that's all right.
Blue, 45, no, okay, that's not going to work, okay.
Hut, Hut.
Hut means give me the ball.
Blue, 45, blue.
This blue sounds like.
Blue!
Watch the safety!
Watch the safety!
Blue, four five!
Blue, blue, blue, hut!
Yes, go!
All you guys, go, go long!
I got a lot of arm strength!
Go, yes!
Oh, no!
You guys really aren't taking this seriously enough.
Okay, I know it's called a pigskin, okay?
But it's not against your religion to catch it.
Second down!
It looked like they were getting the hang of it.
Sort of.
Despite their government's best efforts,
the youth here are connected to the world with
Facebook, Twitter, and Yo, D, drop that beat.
Hip-hop.
That's underground rapper Hishkas.
His music may be banned by the government, but he still has everything an American rapper has.
The studio, the posse, and the...
Is that a Pekingese?
Okay, maybe this guy could use a little help.
Okay, that was good. I've got some notes.
My lyrics are influenced by our Iranian heritage.
rap has poetry and Persian poetry is very strong.
What do you rap about?
Social issues, street issues, moral issues.
Okay, but specifically, like guns, hoes, bitches.
You know the rap here is very different.
It's about something real, and we feel we shouldn't have bad influence on people.
You got a lot to learn about rap, pal.
But check this.
Yo, drop the face.
Jay Square on the mic.
Turn the headphones up.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I'm an old school Persian.
Uptaded version.
Bitch slapping all this fraud and subversion.
Sucking movers want a cat's in this version.
Go on, motherfhs.
So I'll need the incursion.
It's greatest rapper in English and Farsi.
I got more rhymes than Tupouli got parsley.
I spend like a pipov, live like a thug.
I hired 80 versions to we meet me a rug.
Streets up east Tehran.
Stuffin by the mosque to get my Islam.
Then I park from my hookah till my head gets hazy.
Even I'm a dinner that thinks that I'm crazy!
Get bitch slapping all this fraud and subversion.
And rich like uranium.
That's why I'm a Raniard.
You never find my messles because they're all sub-Daradian.
I'm assuming you're laughing means you like it.
Yes, though if you want to analyze it professionally, the meter was not correct.
Get outy. You don't know nothing about rap.
And with that, my time in Iran was up.
What began in fear had ended in understanding.
I had immersed myself in their culture, sampled their delicacies.
Gel before shave.
Jail before shave.
I'll try some.
But as I watch what's happening there now, I know that somewhere in that sea of faces
are the same people I admit.
who were gracious enough to take me into their homes,
and schools, and coffee shops,
people who indulge my assinine questions,
people I hope will be safe and not be harmed
or arrested for the simple act of wearing green
and wanting a voice.
Jason Jones and Tim Greenberg.
Nice job, guys.
This Jason Jones, an intrepid producer, Tim Greenberg,
spent 10 days in Iran and came back with amazing work
and amazing pictures that revealed a certain part of Iran
that I think many of us hadn't seen before,
so congratulations, great job.
Thanks.
What's next?
What's the next assignment?
North Korea.
We're going to Argentina.
All right.
Yes.
I know it was one or the other.
We'll be right back.
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A reporter for Newsweek magazine who spent 118 days in an Iranian prison.
He was released in October.
Please welcome to the program, Maziar Bahari.
Sir?
How's it going?
It's going fine.
Very nice.
You were imprisoned in Iran.
Yes.
Because of you.
Because.
I'm just kidding.
Well, we had sent Jason Jones over there,
and you agreed to be interviewed with him,
and Jason wore a kaffia and dark sunglasses
and pretended to be a spy.
As it turns out, your interrogators...
Didn't have a sense of humor, so they didn't understand.
Well, I don't know if the sketch was not funny
or they didn't have a sense of humor,
but I think I know what you're doing.
I was the victim anyways.
I don't care. I was the big fan.
Here was the crazy part.
So we obviously, we didn't know that all this tumult
was going to happen after the election.
So we called or we got in contact with you
before we ran the piece to say, is this okay to run?
Are you going to be okay?
And you answered, let me see if I have a quote there.
It's fine, yes.
I have no problem, especially the part where I call
Ahmadinejad a moron.
Yes.
I would like to communicate with the rest of the world
as much as possible.
Looking back, do you wish you'd answer differently?
Yes, yeah.
No, but, you know, I thought that maybe they canceled my press card
or maybe they put me in prison for two or three days,
maybe a week and just let me go.
But charging me with espionage because of an interview with Jason,
you know, it was beyond my wildest dreams.
It is, you know, we hear so much about the banality of evil,
but so little about the stupidity of evil.
It's evil is stupid, you know.
I'm sure that, you know, whenever you take anything to the extremes,
you see the humor in it and you see the stupidity in it.
And I think what the Iranian government did and what my interrogator,
as the representative of the Iranian government, was doing to me,
was stupid and funny at the same time.
It was not funny while I was in the interrogation room.
blindfolded in a dark room
and being beaten
that was not funny but when I was going
back to myself
I had to laugh
I mean that was my defense mechanism
you know I say comedy is
imprisonment plus time
exactly yeah and you know my
interrogator for some reason
after a while he became my muse
and I never told him but he gave me ideas
You know, he was so exaggerated in whatever he did that, you know, he just gave me ideas.
And I just, I just laughed at him.
Well, his obsessions, you know, you write about, it's all so Dostoevsky or this crazy existentialist nightmare that you enter into.
But he was obsessed with the idea that you had been to New Jersey.
Yes, yeah.
This is true.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, to him, New Jersey sounded like the most American place.
you could be and he thought that New Jersey is paradise on earth.
And you know, he thought that New Jersey is a place
where people drink all the time, they have sex all the time,
and where there are no Jews.
So...
Apparently the exception to the rule, I didn't get to do any of that stuff in New Jersey.
I never told him about it.
He, they...
It's funny and tragic and horrible because,
because this is a man invested with a great deal of power.
He is a in the Revolutionary Guard in Iran.
He was a revolutionary guard and he was in charge of my life, you know.
I had to be very respectful of him.
I had to be very differential.
You know, I always had to call him, sir.
And whenever I was, whenever I wanted to answer back,
I was always saying that, you know, I beg to differ, but you're stupid.
You know, I never said that.
But, you know, I always had to respect him.
And he had a lot of power.
I mean, he, and you know what one thing that was very smart was that I was not confronting the system.
I was not confronting the government.
They made him in charge of my life.
So it was as if that he had a personal grudge against me, not that, you know, I was tried or I was imprisoned by the Iranian government.
They made it more personal.
He came to arrest me.
He was my interrogator.
And on the last day, just the night before I left him.
Iran, he told me that we can arrest you wherever you are.
We can always bring you back in a bag.
So he wanted to pretend that he was in charge of me.
But that also points to as ludicrous and ridiculous as some of their evidence against
you clearly is.
Their methodology is very sophisticated.
And it's clear they've learned a lot of lessons from the Shah.
And from their oppression of the Iranian people.
And it's it's.
It speaks to so many different layers.
You see, many people in charge of the Iranian government now, they were in prison at the
Shah's time, during the Shah's time.
And they were tortured in the Shah's time.
So it is the tortured who have become torturers, and they know how to inflict torture.
They know how effective psychological torture can be.
One thing, I mean, one day it was interesting because he told me that I worked a lot in
Iraq and he knew that. And he told me that, you know, we treat our prisoners more
humanely than the Americans they treat their prison. We don't do things that the Americans
do in Abu Ghraib, like, you know, making human pies or putting leashes on prisoners. And, you
know, I never told him that, but I was thinking that, yes, the Americans are doing those
horrendous things because they don't know what they're doing. So they have to do those
stupid but horrendous things. But you guys, you know exactly what you're doing. You know exactly what
you know how to inflict psychological torture and people. You know how to use people's
vulnerabilities. There's a sophistication to their thuggery in a way that they don't have. The big
lesson here is the Revolutionary Guard are now really in control of Iran. They are the ones.
Yeah, they are. Well, we cannot say that they are in charge of everything, but they're taking
over all the strategic positions, including the nuclear program. And basically... Are they now Pakistan? Are they a
military dictatorship now or is it no it's Iran can never become a military
dictatorship and that's what they cannot they haven't learned from history you
see they are trying to have a military dictatorship in Iran but they will
fail and they are basically undermining their own authority in the long run
what why they're doing and you know there are dangerous for the country
they're dangerous for the region for the world but also they're dangerous for
themselves and they will fall they will
fall eventually. I don't know. I'm not saying that there will fall next year or in two years or
10 years. But when you're looking at Iran's 3,000 history, 10 years or 50 years, it's not much.
Wow, it's an incredible story. And I urge everyone to read what you wrote about it in Newsweek.
And we actually have an idea for another bit, so I was just wondering if you...
I didn't think so. It's really wonderful to see it, safe and sound and back with the family. It's great to see it.
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