The Daily Show: Ears Edition - TDS Time Machine | Klepper vs. Maga 2024

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

From finding out if America is headed to a second Civil War, to Trump's criminal trial and conviction, to the president-elect's assassination attempt, Jordan Klepper had quite a busy year. Here's the best of Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse in 2024.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official Survivor podcast, On Fire. And this season, we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner up, Charlie Davis, to bring you even further inside the action. Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here. And I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a Survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, Desi Lydic here. The Daily Show is on break for the holidays,

but in the meantime, we put together some special highlights for you. We'll be back in the new year on January 7th with all new episodes. ["Skyfall"] all new episodes. When you've been to as many rallies as I have, you get used to hearing things you don't encounter in everyday life, like, go to hell and Clepper's a bitch. But lately, the crowds have been coalescing around one particular idea that nobody wants

to hear. Civil War. Civil War. Civil War. Civil War. Civil War. Civil War. The Civil War, our country's bitter attempt at divorce that ended with mom and dad back together in a state of constant resentment. 43% of Americans think it's very likely there's a civil war in the next decade.

Okay, I'm going to be perfectly straight up and honest. It's going to happen much sooner than that. How soon? Because I have an Airbnb rented in the outer banks. But it turns out a lot of Americans think this way, and not just your uncle who has been hoarding weapons and Vienna sausages in his basement bunker, even sitting members of Congress

like January 6th committee member, Adam Kinzinger. How close are we to another civil war? I think we're closer than we'd like to think. And I used to be afraid to talk about it. Now I think it's important for us to talk about it. To talk about a civil war. Yeah, because I think we have to be aware of Where we're at. I don't think it's gonna be north and south with large marching armies. You know if I live in Illinois There's gonna be Republicans and Democrats in Illinois. I do think it could get violent easily I mean that's scary. It is scary. If a city and representative like Kinzinger thinks a second civil war is possible,

it's something we need to take seriously. So I decided to gather Americans in one of our most sacred traditions of civic unity, the Corporate Focus Group, bringing together conservatives and liberals in Purple, Arizona, who all think civil war is a real possibility. The civil war is tomorrow.

What is the skill set you bring to the battlefield? Well, I'm good with a gun. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. James? I have survival skills. I was in the military.

I know how to shoot a weapon, hand-to-hand combat if I have to. I could stick you with a knife and not, you know, cry about it. We're laughing about sticking people with a knife, but okay. Lansing, what skills? Leadership. Leadership? Yeah, I just feel there's gonna need to be some leaders. Bo, what skills do you have?

Critical thinking. Jesus. For all of the liberals here, we have a leader and a critical thinker. This is why the blue side is f***ed. But if America was going to be divided in a civil war, where would the modern-day Mason Dixon line fall? It was time for a state-by-state fantasy draft. Well, nightmare draft.

We've terraformed the states that have been red and blue to kind of create one land mass. Who sees themselves as conservative, part of the red map here? Are these the states you would want? Oh, I much prefer the red states. What breaks your heart? What are you gonna miss?

Well, Arizona. Isn't that supposed to be a red state, though? Let's say we give you Arizona. Where do you want to travel to? Well, I love California, but it's turned into such a shithole. Let's be fair. As a red state guy, the blue state has the best food. Oh yeah. Right?

Bo, what would you miss? Not a ton. As a liberal, you're feeling pretty good about the states you get. Honestly, I feel alright. We got Hawaii. You do have Hawaii. James, what are you missing? You're gonna be in this red conglomerate, right? Well, the family's from back east in Ohio, so yeah, I mean, that would be... You'd miss Ohio?

I wouldn't trade Cleveland for anything. I'd trade Texas for California so I can go to San Diego. Okay. Any other trades? Texas for California, blue side, would you allow that trade? I'll take Austin for Cleveland, but I don't need all of Texas. We'll do an Austin for Cleveland? I don't want Cleveland, he's in Cleveland, I want San Diego. What will you give up for San Diego? I would give up Florida.

No thanks. There's no takers on Florida? No. Okay, so I guess the ocean can have Florida, which is helpful because it will probably take it anyway. And now that we have our newly divided states of America, we get to draft some new constitutions. If there is a new America, you're going to need new laws. Are there any laws you would want to change? Get rid of the petty ones.

I mean, there's lots of petty laws out there. I mean, if you pee in public, I mean, you're really going to be in the sex crime registry now because you peed in public? It's stupid. It's a crack in the system. That's the first law that comes to head? It's, you know, it's the petty laws. You get put in the federal sex crimes registry if you take a leak outside. It's just pretty dumb. That's just an example.

We just talked about a civil war tearing this country in two. You finally get your way. Well, you know, I mean... And the first law that jumps to mind is peeing in public. Does your side not have toilets? With the vision of the new Confederacy already collapsing under the burden of sewage infrastructure, I thought it was time to cut to the chase

and ask the biggest question of all. Which side wins? We all lose. We all lose, yeah. There's no winning there. What if one side loses and then refuses to concede? Well, I don't know if I feel any better about the future of America, but for now, at least we still have elections.

God, it's gonna be loud. It's gonna be loud. Loud inside. It's gonna be crazy. I mean, it's kind of quiet and business-like outside. Yeah. But it's a party in the back. It's gonna be loud. It's gonna be loud. Loud inside. It's gonna be crazy. I mean it's kind of quiet and business-like outside. Yeah. But it's a party in the back. It's gonna be huge. You would know my friend. You would know.

Tell me about your office. What's going on here? This is our office in short so... Swim trunks. Swim trunks. I gotta tell you, it's a unique placement of his mouth area. I've loved everything that he has implemented in the past, so I love if we could put that back into office to keep that going.

Like what stuff? Um, I like border control. Yeah? Yeah, that's a big point. You should be working to fix what's happening at the border. Yeah. Feels like Congress is just sitting on their hands right now doing nothing.

Yes. They brought up a bill to do something, and Trump said, no freaking way. Why was that a good idea? I don't know. Okay, so what did they think of Trump's only remaining human opponent? I think she changed. Yeah. She's changed. Fake Republican. Yeah, Nikki who? Not familiar with Nikki Haley? Globalist. She belongs to the fascists. She was in the UN for God's sake.

I know. That's the global fascist capital of the world. To be fair, she was appointed by Donald Trump. But she stabbed him in the back as quick as she could. Loyalty matters. Loyalty matters. Fidelity, that matters. Wait, when you say fidelity matters, you're not talking about like marital.

All fidelity matters. Fidelity matters. Have fun in there inside with Donald Trump. I don't know if his third wife will be in there with him. I think she might still be mad at him. And Trump's recent court challenges have inspired a brand-new demand. Trump has been talking right now about it.

He says he thinks he should be immune from the actions he takes while president. You think he should have total immunity? Otherwise, everyone's going to jail. You're fine with Trump as king? Yes. Trump as king is good? Yep.

That's about as American as you can get? Yes, it is. King Trump? Yes. However, Trump isn't asking to be a king. He wants to be a different kind of ruler. He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one.

A dictatorship for day one? Yep. And that's what we need. What does that actually look like? Well, that means that about half the people in the Department of Justice should be arrested and put behind bars. That's like a true dictatorship. Yeah.

Well, you know, it needs to happen. Donald Trump said he'll be a dictator day one. What do you think of that? Is that a good idea? Let's get it done. Get in and get it done. Let's go. He's not going to be like a Hitler dictator.

No. More like a Mussolini dictator for a day. Yes, exactly. God bless America. You're supposed to put the people in place. A dictator can do that, right? It can put people in place. Absolutely.

The good people are over here, the bad people are over here in Aguila. At this point, it's what America needs. So they're on board with the dictator justice. But what about all the big dictator talk? Trump said they're poisoning the blood of our country. Trump kind of speaks in allegories. What he's talking about is the blood of the country's been tainted. People have come here and immigrated.

It's a different story. And they don't know our American history and our values. Nor do they respect it. So when he says poisoning our country, it sounds harsh, it sounds much nicer in the original German. Yeah. Yeah, there you go While many were on board with dictator 2.0 I did start to see some small cracks in support Like when I found this woman who spent 60 days in prison for her role on January 6th. You were a Trump supporter

Absolutely, I was Republican and I was wrong that day for even being there. January 6th was an insurrection. Keep your voice down. This is a Trump rally. That's not the most popular take to have right now. And this guy, who confessed he's scared about losing his money after investing in a bunch of weird financial MAGA products like Trump debit cards and a dubious Trump currency. I have supported him with checks and the gold Trump bars.

$100 gold things. I can't get rid of those. NFT cards, TRB cards. So how does that work? They gave me a PIN number and everything. You go to any ATM. Went to the ATM and couldn't get nothing out. The card has nothing on it.

You think it was a scam? It might have been been I don't know Do you've invested a lot in Donald Trump? Yeah, everyone is telling me to buy something different stop But don't buy any I just as a as a guy who's just getting to know you here stop it, right? I am but I had this one guy he wants me to put in more money, right? No Here's here's the deal I'm afraid if you go in there again, you're gonna be taken in by a scam again. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

All I'm saying is here, I'm saying there is hope that you can make better choices and not give in to a scam moving forward. Right. Okay? So I think, I think you just walked that way, right through those gates. No, no, my car's over here. Well, we almost saved one person if he'd only parked in the right spot.

It's time for a brand new season of Survivor. And you know what that means. It means it's also a brand new season of the only official Survivor podcast on fire. Here's our goal with this podcast. We bring you inside the how and the why of what we do on the show. And we do it from three different points of view. You have the producer in me, you have the fan in Jay, who also happens to be our executive producer

of this podcast. And then we bring you the insight from a former player. And this season, it is Survivor 46 runner up, Charlie Davis. Welcome to the team, Charlie. Well, Jeff, I know firsthand that playing from the couch and playing on the island, completely different. So I hope you tune in. Every single week, we're gonna dissect the strategy,

the misfires and mistakes that change the game. If you want more Survivor than just 90 minutes, this is where you get it. On Fire, the only official Survivor podcast. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast, wherever you get survivor podcast. Listen to On Fire, the official survivor podcast wherever you get your podcast. ["On Fire," theme music playing.] Donald Trump's criminal hush-bunny trial

started yesterday, but a few days before that, he had a message to his followers. 72 hours until all hell breaks loose. That kind of rhetoric is really incendiary and dangerous. So I went down to the New York County Criminal Court to witness the carnage for myself. Donald Trump said all hell is going to break loose. Are you gonna go ape shit today?

I'm not gonna go ape shit today. Are you ready to go ape shit today? I want to see how it plays out. You're gonna slow walk the ape shit. Right, slow walk it. Trump supporters are calm, peaceful protesters. Yes. They would never rush into a federal building and try to disrupt proceedings. Donald Trump would never advocate for that. Outside of that January 6th thing. It's today the January 6th of April 15th? No. I was there January 6th.

Yes. I was there. Where were you? Inside the rotunda? Are you in the office? Were you holding a podium? Where were you? It was breached before we even got there. Is that why you're here early today? Just to make sure you get that first wave? Well I have done pretty. Go back and watch America's Most Wanted. I made a grand appearance there when somebody said we got what we deserved. God bless, I'll set my Tivo. Do you think the crowd will remain peaceful here? I do. Aren't you letting him down? Not coming with your A-game? Where are your horns?

I brought my A-game. You brought a scarf. You brought needle pointers. It's handmade, man. You guys picked a QAnon shaman yet? QAnon shaman? Yeah, is there like a voodoo boogaloo somewhere? That guy is so articulate and so smart. You're talking about the guy with the horns?

Yes. Right? He can smell shit coming a mile away. Is that why the QAnon shaman is so good at smelling shit? Because he was in the same room where someone was actually defecating inside the Capitol? Probably. While there was more press than there were MAGA supporters, I did run into one January 6th B-List star, Rudy Giuliani's

son. I was in Washington, DC on January 6 as well. I was with President Trump. I remember him talking about peacefully protesting. Some people were talking about peaceful protests. Some people also on January 6 were talking about trial by combat. Let's have trial by combat.

Do you know anybody who was talking about that? Oh, you know, look, I would say that peaceful protest is the most important thing. No trial by combat today. Stand up for his first amendment rights. No trial by combat. Do you guys even care what's going on inside the courtroom or no? Of course I care about what's going on in the courtroom. So let's establish some baseline facts about the trial.

Do you think Donald Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels? Oh, hell no. You don't think that happened? No, he was with Melania. Who the hell? He's just always been a one-woman man. Listen, he probably hasn't been, but women have thrown themselves at Trump for the almighty dollar, all those hoes. They had three and a half years to go after Trump

for all these stupid trials. Why are they waiting until right now? Is it possible they're waiting until right now because Trump consistently delayed the trials? No, I don't believe that. While Trump complains about liberal bias, it seemed the most qualified jurors were outside the courthouse.

This is about Trump, bro! F***ing TikTok! F***ing TikTok! You think you can be an unbiased juror? Of course I can. Do you have any feelings or opinions about how Mr. Trump is being treated in this case? I absolutely do. You do? What are those feelings? Yes, I do.

I have feelings that if you commit a crime, then you should go to trial. Great. So you support this trial? No, because it's not a trial. Oh. Well, then I'm sorry. There's no room for you on this jury. But apparently it was the venue itself

that presented the most bias. Trump cannot get a fair trial in a 90-plus percent Democrat city like New York City. Where can Trump get a fair trial? In the Midwest, in Ohio, in Florida. He's on trial in Florida. He's on trial in Georgia. Will you accept the results of those trials?

No. So the MAGA sphere is ready for accountability. Just not anywhere on this planet. just not anywhere on this planet. MUSIC MUSIC Donald Trump has a big month ahead. A debate, an immunity ruling, sentencing, and a convention in the horrible city of Milwaukee.

His words, not mine. So I went to my first rally since he became a convicted felon in the good old battleground state of Wisconsin. And as usual, MAGA was gonna MAGA. Make America great again! I need to make some money! You got a truck you want to show me? Yeah, I do.

I wish the world a better place because I was here. Jesus Christ. President Trump. Same font, huh? Yeah. Okay. Jenner, you at all worried about that whole worshipping false idols thing? Not at all.

What do you think about the upcoming debate? Um, I've heard that, you know, people say Biden won't show up. You think Trump is going to show up? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. He, I think he's going to show up. He's not afraid to debate anybody? Oh, no.

No, no, no. I mean, except for Nikki Haley. Of course, there's one thing still on everyone's mind. Trump's recent felony conviction in New York for falsifying business records. People are talking about what happened with Donald Trump's conviction recently. F*** that. Totally. Bullshit.

All 34 of them. It's a f***ing mess. Get rid of it. Why is it a f***ing mess? It's a f***ing mess because he didn't do anything wrong. Who's he cheating? I mean, other than his wife. I'm not getting into that.

It's unjustable. It's not fair. Scam. It only takes one crime to send you to jail or prison. Isn't that the truth? Oh, so America's the land where you commit a crime and you go to prison? Are you **** kidding me? That was a kangaroo trial. This is absolute Stalinism. So do you have faith in the Department of Justice?

No. Now there's the Hunter Biden trial. What did you... Hunter Biden was found guilty. Yes. What do you think of that? I... Well, the evidence was overwhelming.

You take the evidence, you put it through the justice system, and he's found guilty? We should accept that. Yes. Wait a minute, hold on you put it through the justice system, and he's found guilty? We should accept that. Yes. Wait a minute, hold on. But I thought the justice system was rigged. We shouldn't trust it. It wasn't taking place in a community that voted. But the judge was a Trump-appointed judge.

Was he? Yeah. What do you think of the whole Hunter and Biden situation? Are you relieved? Hunter and Biden was found guilty. Yeah, but they're not going to do anything to f***. Why not? You can sit around, f***, dump a pistol in the garbage, smoke crack. You get away with all that shit.

But it sounds like he was convicted. Yeah. So is that the justice system working? I don't know. The justice system won't work until that f***er's put away. Which f***er are we talking about? Trump. Trump, 100%. When Trump is put away, the justice system is working. No, no, no, no, no, come on!

Sorry, I'm trying to keep straight. Jesus Christ, dude. Which part of the justice system do we totally implicitly trust, to which one is a total sham? It's hard to keep them straight. But did this conviction dole out justice, or just create a martyr? There's a classic cartoon that shows other convicted felons. There's Gandhi, there's Nelson Mandela, and then there's Trump.

You put Trump in line with Gandhi and Nelson Mandela? Yeah. Between Gandhi, Mandela, and Trump, which was the one who had sex with a porn star and then paid to cover that up? Well, none of the above. But one of the above. And one of them recently made bank off his brush with the law. Spoiler alert, it wasn't Gandhi. So the conviction helped Donald Trump.

Well, everyone's pouring in money to support him, so, and I know I've done that a couple times. Trump goes to trial for sexual assault. How much are you given? What is that? Probably a thousand dollars. Thousand bucks for that? Okay, classified docs, how much are you given? Another thousand. Okay, so a, how much are you giving? Another thousand. Okay, so a thousand across the board? Yes.

Okay, overthrow democracy, that biggie? Is that two grand? That's probably five grand. Wow, okay. Basically, we just need to save our country from the border surge. Right, right, right. You don't need to be shelling out money to give immigrants who don't deserve it. You're sick and tired of your money going to people who committed crimes.

That's right. Yeah. Did you donate? Yes. What about for the sexual assault case? Did you give for that? Oh. This is all just so old news, you know? It doesn't affect me. It's old news.

Sexuous assaults, sexual assault. Let's move on with the future. Yeah. Yeah. Hahaha! That's a laugh! Yeah, it is! Yeah, it is! Okay! But what is slightly less hilarious is Trump's second term plan, which sounds a lot like going after everyone who went after him.

Based on what they've done, I would have every right to go after them. I am your retribution. Donald Trump is put into office. Should he go after his political opponents? Absolutely. Rocked our world. F*** them up like he f***ed theirs up. Donald Trump, if he gets into office again, should he show any mercy to political opponents?

I don't think so. He should go after them. How important is vengeance to you when Trump gets into office? It's probably third on the list. Okay, good. So I'm guessing that's between martial law and right before fixing toilet pressure. But there's a simple reason it's so easy for them

to give him a pass. But I love Trump, so you know. There you go. It's like if you have a child and they pull some shenanigan. You don't like what they do. You love the person, but you don't necessarily like what they do.

The child analogy is kind of perfect. But to be clear, we are talking about the person you want to be president. I want him to be president. Uh-huh. Yes? At least someone is having a good time. It's time for a brand new season of Survivor.

And you know what that means. It means it's also a brand new season of the only official Survivor podcast on fire. Here's our goal with this podcast. We bring you inside the how and the why of what we do on the show. And we do it from three different points of view. You have the producer in me, you have the fan in Jay, who also happens to be our executive producer in this podcast, and then we bring you the insight from a former player, and this season it is

Survivor 46 runner-up, Charlie Davis. Welcome to the team, Charlie. Well, Jeff, I know firsthand that playing from the couch and playing on the island, completely different. So I hope you tune in. Every single week, we're gonna dissect the strategy, the misfires and mistakes that change the game.

If you want more Survivor than just 90 minutes, this is where you get it. On Fire, the only official Survivor podcast. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast wherever you get your podcast. The last three weeks have been some of the most eventful in American political history. So I went to Harrisburg, PA to see how the MAGA world is reflecting on these serious times. First, I want to know how they're coping with the loss of their favorite punching bag. I've seen you many, many times here. What number rally we at?

82. Are you sad about the Joe Biden chant being retired? I'm sad because of all I've invested in all this anti-Biden gear. How much Let's Go Brandon anti-Joe Biden merch did you have? Oh... Thousands of dollars. Is that right? Wow. I bought it at the Let's Go Brandon store in Thomas River, New Jersey.

Do they have to rename that? I think they're gonna have to rename it. How about one more for old time's sake? F*** Joe and the hoe. And now the name calling of Vice President Harris begins. If they could only decide how to mispronounce that name. I'm surprised Kamala even has a chance. No one likes Kamala.

They want a Kamala in. And that's what I don't like to hear about the Kamala thing. Why do you say her name like that? How do you say it? Kamala. No, it's Kamala. Kamala to hear about the Kamala thing. Why do you say her name like that? How do you say it? Kamala. No, it's Kamala. Kamala. Kamala.

Kamala. Kamala. There you go. I appreciate that you're trying to say the name correctly. Yes. I actually am not, but I inadvertently, you know. Why would you want to say it? Kamala.

It's the way Bush used to say Saddam Hussein. Saddam. Is this you workshopping, elevating Kamala to Saddam Hussein levels? Kamala Harris is a bigger threat. More anti-American than Saddam Hussein? Oh, yes, yes. The most anti-American candidate for president we've ever had. I gotta tell you, if I ran into you three weeks ago,

you might have said that about Joe Biden. That's right, yeah. Do you think Kamala is qualified to be president? Somebody that cackles all the time and laughs at everything under the sun? Are you kidding me? A woman experiencing joy not your thing? She's useless. She's backpedaling on all her previous comments. Is that your issue with her? Yeah. What do you like about JD Vance? He's a man of the people. You think he'll stand up for Trump? Yeah. Vance will stand up to the people who

compare Donald Trump to Hitler? Yeah. What happens if those people are also J.D. Vans? He has acquitted Donald Trump to America's Hitler. Years ago. He flip-flopped. People can change. Yeah.

But I still am like a Parisian. There you go. Apparently, writing a book about your opioid-addicted family makes you more qualified than any black woman could ever be. I heard she got up the ladder on her back. Right, but millions of people voted for Kamala Harris. Did she sleep with all of them? I just don't know.

No. No. But how do you sleep you way to the top of elected positions? I don't know how she got to where she is, except if the word is DEI, you know? What do you think of JD Vance? I think he picked him for votes in the Rust Belt. Oh, so Trump wanted diversity on the ticket. He wanted diversity on his ticket, yeah.

Sure. Over the years, the MAGA crowd has faced a lot of criticism, but none more stinging than the line of attack started by Kamala's new VP candidate, Tim Walz. These guys are just weird. These are weird people on the other side. Democrats are trying to call the MAGA movement weird. What do you think of that? It's, I mean, it's, I don't know what's weird about it.

Is it fair though to call the MAGA movement inherently an unserious movement? I mean, I don't think so. You think the discourse has gotten too ridiculous? I think so. Yeah. I just think sometimes from an outside perspective it feels like you come to a MAGA event and there isn't a seriousness. It's not about people trying to fix America. It feels like a carnival. Yeah.

Is that a fair critique? No, I don't think so. No. I mean, there's sort of people who just genuinely care about the country. People come here, they want to talk policy. They want to talk about God's law, they want to talk about abortion rights. This isn't a freaking carnival. It's not Halloween, we're not all dressing up like lunatics.

It's a serious thing here. Absolutely. You do know you're wearing that hat right now? The rally was just three weeks after a truly tragic day in US politics. The official story was that the assassination attempt was committed by a disturbed young man who was a registered Republican. But this crowd isn't always into official stories. I think people on both sides can agree that was a horrific moment in our history.

It was. Looking back on it, do you believe the things you hear? Oh, no I don't. I believe it's an inside job. The shooting was an inside job? A lot of things aren't adding up. It's very strange. I think that was a planned job. Anybody with any common sense knows that was a planned job.

Planned by who? The Dems. The Lefts. The deep state. Obama is involved in this. You think Obama set up the assassination attempt? I think he surely knew about it. Oh, it's the government, for sure.

It's the government? I think so. You think they would go through all of this? I mean, wouldn't they really want to take out Trump, wouldn't they just poison the Big Mac? I don't know. It's the dance to FBI, the special service. Does it surprise you to hear that it was a disgruntled white guy Republican, gun nut?

No, because you know what? We'll never know why he was picked. It's kind of the perfect cover. Exactly. They could have gotten a disgruntled black guy and I'm not, no problem, and they could have gotten a disgruntled black female. But no, they picked the disgruntled white guy. The disgruntled white guy who's into guns at a Trump rally. It's like a where's Waldo situation.

Yes, yes. It's like, oh my god, who doesn't fit that profile? Exactly. And just about the security and everything, there's like something wasn't right there from the beginning. That only gets me. It's like, this kid was able to get an AR-15 that easily. What the hell?

Yeah. Doesn't add up. In that it adds up so cleanly it feels too easy. Exactly. And there's no paper. They can only go so far and it's like a dead end. It's a situation where like you want to connect the two dots but it's just much easier to go all the way around. Exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official Survivor podcast on fire. And this season we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner up Charlie Davis to bring you even further inside the action. Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here and I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a survivor player for season 47. Listen to on fire, the official survivor podcast, wherever you get your podcast.