The Daily Show: Ears Edition - TDS Time Machine | Mother's Day

Episode Date: May 11, 2025

There's still time to order flowers, but you're going to have to move fast. It's Mother's Day! Trevor Noah and Desi Lydic discuss the best ways to celebrate Mother's Day (by leaving moms alone). Jon S...tewart sits down with former president Jimmy Carter to talk about his book A Remarkable Mother. Desi dives back in to unpack the history of why we celebrate Mother's Day. Author Angela Garbes joins Trevor to discuss her book Essential Labor. Between the scenes, Trevor explains why his mother will never be on the show. Congresswoman Lucy McBath joins to discuss her book Standing our Ground: A Mother's Story and how losing her son motivated her to run for change. John Leguizamo's mom comes on to spill the beans on his childhood. Finally, Trevor shares memories of his beloved grandmother, Frances Noah. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. Hi, I'm Bob Pittman, chairman and CEO of iHeart Media. On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio. Yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole. I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now, because I talk to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Listen to Math & Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. Ow! This Sunday is Mother's Day, the day when Americans celebrate their moms with flowers and breakfast in bed, which by the way, I never really understood. Yeah. I don't get why people like breakfast in bed, you know?
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's just so magical to lie here and eat in the place I've been farting for eight hours and then I'm going to go back to sleep in the place I've been farting for eight hours, and then I'm gonna go back to sleep in the place I ate. Meh. Look, the point is, it's a special day. And for more on that day, let's talk to our senior mom correspondent, Desi Lydic. Happy Mother's Day to you, Desi.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And let me just say, I think it's one holiday that should be every day. Well, that's kind of dumb, Trevor. You can't have Mother's Day every day. I mean, the world would run out of roses and gift cards for massages that don't include the tip. Yeah, I know. It was just the sentiment. Um, I was... You know what? It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Um, this Mother's Day, Desi, should be more fun than the last, right? Because people are vaccinated, places are reopening, so, you know, moms can actually go out and have fun and feel safe. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, honestly, it's a huge relief because this past year has been especially hard for moms.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I mean, moms have taken on the biggest burden of the pandemic, really, between juggling career, child care, homeschooling. The only thing that's working harder than moms was our iPads. My kid is just as much Peppa Pig's son as my own. healthcare, homeschooling. The only thing that's working harder than moms was our iPads. My kid is just as much Peppa Pig's son as my own. I feel you there, Desi. Aw, I love that show.
Starting point is 00:02:12 I actually got a pet turtle during quarantine, and I have to feed it almost every day. And I-I'm... I mean, it's not the same, but it's kind of the same, right? It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same at all's not the same. It's not the same at all. Um, Desi, moms have been through a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:28 And, um, and hopefully, you're gonna get some amazing gifts from your kids. Yeah, yeah. I-I can't wait for that coupon for free hugs. You know? I feel like I have so many of those at this point. I can buy a round for everyone. You know, Trevor, do you know what would be really the best gift that America can get moms this Mother's Day? around for everyone. You know, Trevor, do you know what would be really the best gift that America can get moms this Mother's Day?
Starting point is 00:02:49 I do, Desi. America needs to give its moms universal childcare and paid parental leave. I feel you, girl. What? No. I mean, yes, that would be great. But the best gifts this Mother's Day would be to just leave moms the...alone.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Wait. Yeah. What? Are you saying moms want to spend Mother's Day on vacation from their kids? Yes. Or the kids can go on vacation. I don't care. Someone else can run around him on the beach and make sure he doesn't eat sand. I will be at home, in my bathtub, and for the first time in a while,
Starting point is 00:03:27 actually taking a bath in it instead of just getting in fully dressed and crying. Wow. I mean, I've got to say, it does seem more doable than universal child care. Great. Great. And-and this works out well, because it doesn't just have to be for Mother's Day. It can be for Father's Day, too. Right. Because dads deserve a vacation too.
Starting point is 00:03:48 No, fuck dads. No, I mean, moms can be alone on Father's Day too. Also, Memorial Day, obviously Independence Day, Labor Day, and you know, the month of December. Whoa, whoa, Desi, Desi, you're not gonna spend Christmas Day with your family? Okay, don't mom shame me, Trevor, or I'll take that precious little turtle of yours
Starting point is 00:04:08 and shove it up your manhole. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to recharge my co-parent. Oh, okay, good luck with that, Desi, and happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day! What about my guest tonight? He was the 39th president of these United States. His new book is called A Remarkable Mother. Please welcome back to the show President Jimmy Carter.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Sir. Hello, sir. How are you? I haven't seen you in a while. How are you doing? How are you doing? Have you called it? Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:04:41 How are you doing? It's very nice to see you, sir. Have you been called in? No, I'm great. How you doing? It's very nice to see you, sir. You look great. The book is called A Remarkable Mother. I want to thank you, Mr. President. I, for Mother's Day, was going to get my mother maybe a card, maybe some flowers.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Thank you for making my gesture look incredibly pitiful. You've written an entire book in homage to your mom. That's lovely. Absolutely. And I hope everybody in America will buy it for the Mother's Day. It's so great. That's why I did it.
Starting point is 00:05:15 To help people like you, you know, like a decision. You did it as an added bonus gift for mothers. Exactly. Yeah. You should, you know, Jewish mothers basically will see this and go, oh, lookmy carter wrote a book for his mom how interesting you didn't write a book and didn't even have time to call how interesting
Starting point is 00:05:35 what what do you what do you feel like is is the remark is i think everybody feels to some extent their mother is remarkable their parents are markable what in your mind what sets her apart well i really think my mother exemplifies the finest aspects of what American motherhood should be. She was innovative, she was spirited, she was indomitable, she was very courageous. She would tackle the most difficult problems in the totality of society and try to change
Starting point is 00:06:03 it. I lived on a farm and I didn't have any white neighbors. My mother never acknowledged the impact of racial segregation in the deep south. She was probably the only one in our county that didn't. And so she continued this protection of black and poor and deprived people all of her life when she was 70 years old.
Starting point is 00:06:22 She was still, she was in India. She joined the Peace Corps, right, at 70. She was in India in the Peace Corps, yeah. And she was 70 years old. She was still, she was in India. She joined the Peace Corps, right, at 70? She was in India in the Peace Corps, yeah. And she was still dealing with poor people who were black and deprived. She was, in effect, an untouchable. She dealt with human fluids, which made her unacceptable in society. So she did that all the way through. And she implanted in me a decision not to let, you know, public criticism deter me from what I thought was right. In fact, when she was 70 years old,
Starting point is 00:06:50 she wrote in her diary, and I quoted in the book, that if I had one wish for my children, it was for them to do what they think is right, what's adventurous and challenging and unpredictable and gratifying and not give a damn what anybody says about them. So that's one of the things I learned fine advice She never let you get a big head. No, she didn't she made me stay humble
Starting point is 00:07:10 great a great anecdote about somebody asked her they said are you proud of of Your son and she said which one yes exactly that that was right after I walked down, Pennsylvania Avenue I was so proud of myself and So she when she the reporters asked her aren't you proud of myself. And so when the reporters asked her, aren't you proud of your son? I thought, finally my mom was going to say something good about me. And she said, which one? And she always thought Billy was the most brilliant child in the family.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I can't... And she would remind you about that. Absolutely. And I can't dispute that. I think Billy was probably the most brilliant. And your sister as well, right? I had two sisters. Two sisters.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, all of them, and my father died with pancreatic cancer, and my mother died with cancer too. But, so that was, I had a good, solid, wonderful upbringing. As you watch the candidates now going through, could you have become president in this media climate? No, I don't think so. In the first place, I didn't have any money, and I was a very poor campaigner. But the way I won was sneaky.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Uh, really. While the other candidates... Then maybe you could have become president. Yeah, I would have been a good president afterwards. But what happened was that I didn't have any money. We never stayed in a motel. We never stayed in a hotel. We couldn't afford it. But every Monday morning, I didn't have any money. We never stayed in a motel. We never stayed in a hotel. We couldn't afford it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 But every Monday morning, I and my wife and three sons and my mother would go out on the campaign trail. Never campaigned together. So mother would go to different parts of the country from where I was. And with her speaking ability and her exuberance and so forth, she gathered enough votes to help put me in the White House.
Starting point is 00:08:43 So, and this was a foregone conclusion. I had one hour in New Hampshire and Florida before the other candidates woke up to the fact that I had a remarkable mother. Oh, really? So she gets credit for the presidency as well? Sure, because I won by that much, and if it hadn't been for my mother, I wouldn't have been president. And I imagine she mentioned that to you as well. Oh, she never failed to. Well, maybe, see, maybe Baptists and Jewish are not that different after all.
Starting point is 00:09:13 MUSIC If you're wondering why I'm in bed having cold eggs, burnt bacon, and a pancake filled with jelly beans, then you've never celebrated Mother's Day. It's that special day each year when your husband gives you flowers he bought in a panic at the gas station and a card he wrote with his feet so it looks like your dumbest kid did it. But societies have been honoring mothers since ancient times, including all the way back in ancient Egypt, where an annual festival honored the mother of all pharaohs, Isis.
Starting point is 00:09:51 No, not the one that you're thinking. Isis was an Egyptian goddess and style inspo for every white girl at Coachella. The Greeks and Romans also had spring festivals celebrating the Great Mother. The Greeks called her Rhea, who's usually depicted with a mural crown seated in a chariot pulled by two lions, which is badass and carbon neutral. We should bring that back. But what we know to be Mother's Day really traces back to 1852,
Starting point is 00:10:17 and a woman named Anne Reeves Jarvis. She started something called Mother's Day Work Clubs, where women in the community would help needy families buy medicine, get clean water, and practice safe sewage disposal, which is pretty intense as far as mom groups go. The one I'm in mostly just swaps hand-me-down Elmo onesies for weed.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Hmm. After Anne Reeves Jarvis died, her daughter Anna Jarvis decided to honor her. In 1908, she organized the first official Mother's Day celebration in Philadelphia with the help of department store owner John Wanamaker, handing out hundreds of white carnations because her mother loved them. Even though, let's be honest, they're kind of the basic bitch of flowers.
Starting point is 00:10:56 And because the day was so successful, Jarvis lobbied to have the holiday honoring mothers added to the national calendar. She led a letter writing campaign to newspapers, politicians, and the governors of every state. Now this was before Twitter, so she couldn't do that thing where you just tag a bunch of important people and retweet yourself. It didn't work, by the way. After years of pushing and fighting and writing,
Starting point is 00:11:20 Jarvis's dream was realized when President Woodrow Wilson finally made Mother's Day a national holiday in 1914. It was the best thing to happen to mothers until the invention of white Zinfandel. But guess what? Once Mother's Day became an official holiday, Anna Jarvis hated it. She thought her sincere holiday had become a commercialized racket and called the florist and greeting card manufacturers charlatans, bandits, pirates, racketeers, kidnappers, and termites that would undermine with their greed one of the finest, noblest, and truest movements and celebrations. Which basically sounds like how William Shakespeare would give a one-star Yelp review.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Jarvis hated the holidays so much that it soon became her life's work to undo her life's work. She went door to door collecting petitions to take Mother's Day off the calendar. She threatened people who used the phrase Mother's Day with copyright infringement. She got in a fight with Eleanor Roosevelt for using Mother's Day to raise money for charity, and one time when a waitress told her to enjoy her Mother's Day salad, Jarvis threw the salad on the ground. It's true, you can Google it. Although don't search for Mother Tosses Salad, those are not the results you want.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I'm trying to get it off the dark web. Oh, you saw it? Yeah. Thank you. But basically, Anna Jarvis brought Mother's Day into this world, and ever since, it was an endless source of disappointment and frustration in her life, which ironically is a pretty perfect metaphor for motherhood. Anyway, that is why the f*** we celebrate Mother's Day.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Now, if you don't mind, I'm gonna try to enjoy this abomination of a breakfast. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. That's a licorice jelly bean. Yum. Hi, I'm Bob Pippman, Chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio.
Starting point is 00:13:27 The word on the street then was, he's too country for pop. But then once I got to country, it was he's too pop for country. So I kind of never really had a place to fit in, but that's exactly how and why I fit. I just embraced that. Like yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole. I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now, because I talk to people that grew up like me,
Starting point is 00:13:52 have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me. Listen to Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is bestselling author Angela Gabbis. She's here to talk about her new book, Essential Labor,
Starting point is 00:14:16 which reflects on the state of caregiving in America and explores mothering as a means of social change. So please welcome Angela Garbis. -♪ Yeah! -♪ -♪ Yeah! -♪ Yeah! -♪ Yeah! -♪ Yeah! -♪ Yeah! Welcome. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Welcome. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you, Trevor, for having me. Are you kidding me? Thank you for writing one of the most fascinating books on a topic that I... I-I love delving into because I feel like it is the root of everything. And that is mothering.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yes, I'm glad that you see that. We share a vibe. Right, but let's start with the title of the book, Essential Labor. You wrote this book based on an article that got a claim from everyone. I mean, mothers all over the country read it. Some people around the world read it.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Even people like Melinda Gates and Elizabeth Warren chimed in and said, yeah, this is spot on. What do you think people have been missing about mothering for so long? Sure, I mean, I wrote this book, part of it came out of the grief and loss that I felt at the start of the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:15:20 As a writer, I had sort of nebulous deadlines and I didn't get a regular paycheck or health insurance. But my husband's job gave us that. So I basically stopped writing. And because childcare centers closed, I was taking care of my kids. And I knew that that was the most important work I could be doing.
Starting point is 00:15:36 But it also, I felt like I wasn't getting any recognition for it. We were hearing about essential workers, healthcare workers, sanitation workers, who are, yes, essential. But we were never hearing about essential workers, health care workers, sanitation workers, who are, yes, essential, but we were never hearing about parents who were working 24-7, trying to take care of their families,
Starting point is 00:15:51 trying to keep communities safe. And that's really where, like, this is what I know you understand is that domestic work, mothering, we do it to ourselves every day, feeding ourselves, taking a shower. Without care work and domestic labor, this is the work that makes all other work possible. The idea that domestic labor is somehow less valuable
Starting point is 00:16:13 than quote unquote professional work, I just think it's a myth. You know what you tap into in this book is so powerful because it even goes to, let's say somebody's like a rampant capitalist. You know, they go like, oh, the country needs to make money. We gotta get people out there. We gotta get, and yet they don't want the policies
Starting point is 00:16:31 that support mothers in doing that. So you see mothers, you know, you talk about in the book where they have to choose, do, am I gonna be a mom or am I going to find somebody to be a mom to my child or I can't afford them? This is so many, you know, we talk about this care crisis that was exposed in the pandemic, right? When childcare centers and schools closed down,
Starting point is 00:16:48 we were lost. People didn't know what to do. But many of us have always known that, you know, until your child is age six, in America you're really on your own. And there are many people who are choosing between, should I put my child in daycare or should I work? Because it's really about the same amount of money, right?
Starting point is 00:17:04 But so studies have been done. So Oxfam has a study that if women in America were paid minimum wage for the amount of domestic labor that they do unpaid right now, it would be worth $1.9 trillion per year. Wow. So talk about putting a value on that. That is part of our economy.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And that's a thing that we just have not reckoned with in this country. Our country, American capitalism, relies just as much on the labor that happens in the home as any other labor that happens in the office or on a job site. And other countries have done that in many ways. You know, you see countries like Sweden,
Starting point is 00:17:41 countries like Switzerland, et cetera. They've got different methods of doing it, but they all say, this is so valuable to the country that we will pay a mother, we'll make sure that the government is supporting a mother because you talk about this in the book and it's really fascinating to get into is like everything that we struggle with in society,
Starting point is 00:17:56 whether it's crime, whether it's poverty, whether it's mental issues, et cetera, you can link so many of those things to mothering. Yes, when you invest, so I believe that raising children, it's a choice that people make to have kids or to not have kids. And I think we should all, unfortunately this is not guaranteed in our country,
Starting point is 00:18:13 we should all be allowed to make that choice for ourselves. But whether or not you have children, raising kids is a social responsibility. And when we invest, no one gets to adulthood without someone taking care of them. And that's their parents. It's also beloved aunties. It's a preschool teacher.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It's a teacher, right? There's so many people who are part of that. And when we invest in children and families and mothers, it's investing in public health. It's investing in the very future and health of our society. When is my mom going to be on the show? Never.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Here's the thing with my mom, two things. One, she has no interest in television or any of these things that I do. She just loves the fact that I can pay the rent and she loves me for who I am. She genuinely does not care for all of these things and I'll give you an example This is how this is how not interested in it. My mom is right my mom Two two and a half years ago I met Lionel Richie for the first time and growing up Lionel Richie was the soundtrack to me and my mom's lives, right? So like Sunday morning, she'd be playing Sunday morning. The two of us would be there
Starting point is 00:19:22 We'll be dancing together play all of Lionel Richie songs We'll there, we'd be dancing together, play all of Lionel Richie's songs, we'd be singing them in the house together, and then I meet Lionel Richie, so I'm like, this is amazing, Lionel Richie, my mom and I, we used to dance to your music when I was a kid, can I take a picture, I'm gonna send it to my mom. My mom doesn't care about any celebrity, so I'm like, this is the one time mom's gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:19:37 wow, you met Lionel Richie. So I took the picture and I sent it to my mom, and then emailed it to her, I was like, mom, look, huh, what do you think? And then she replied, she's like, wow, you're getting fat. I was like, okay, but, okay, let's move over that. First of all, the camera adds 20 pounds, but let's talk about the other person in the picture,
Starting point is 00:19:58 Lionel Richie. And then she was like, oh yes, oh, that's nice. I was like, oh, okay. Oh, wow, okay, that was the thing. was like, oh, okay. Oh, wow, okay, that was the thing. She just genuinely... And then like four or five days ago, I guess she was on the internet, which she doesn't regularly do.
Starting point is 00:20:13 She goes emails and then she's done. And she was on the internet, and then my brother was going through pictures of me or something. And then she was like, hey, I saw a picture of you and Lionel Richie. When did that happen? I was like, it happened when I sent you the picture two and a half years ago.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And then she was like, which picture? Then she's like, oh, the picture where you were fat. Then I'm like, ah! ["The Daily Show Theme"] Earlier today, I spoke with Congresswoman Lucy McBath of Georgia. We talked about her state's importance in this election and how losing her son to gun violence
Starting point is 00:20:45 motivated her to become the lawmaker that she is today. Congresswoman McBath, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. Well, thank you, Trevor. I'm so excited to be with you and I have to be honest with you. My youngest sister is your biggest fan and my family has always said,
Starting point is 00:21:02 when are you gonna be on a show? Once you're on a show, you've really made it. So thank you for validating me with my family has always said, you know, when are you gonna be on a show? Once you're on a show, you've really made it. So thank you for validating me with my family. Wow. I like how they've got shifted priorities, because in my world, becoming a congresswoman and living the life that you have lived and how you got that, many people know of your story,
Starting point is 00:21:19 but for those who don't, you started your story from a place that I feel many people should start in politics, and that is a personal place. You were a flight attendant for most of your life. You lost your son to gun violence, and you didn't just mourn his passing. You decided to step up and do something about it,
Starting point is 00:21:37 and so you ran to change not just his world, but the world and how America sees guns. So in my world, you have made it. And we're gonna talk about all of that today. So thank you so much for joining us on the show. Let's start first talking about Georgia, because that's what's really in the news right now. Georgia has become what many people thought it would never,
Starting point is 00:21:59 a battleground state. When you look at what has happened in Georgia, do you think that this is Georgia changing, or do you think that this is Georgia changing, or do you think that this is Georgia responding to Donald Trump? Georgia is changing. Trevor, as I've been seeing for years now, that this is the New South.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And I think the resistance that we've seen is just that, the resistance to the New South. And just the amazing movement building that's been done, the strategizing that's been done, the strategizing that's been done, the grassroots organizing that's been done. I knew we were gonna be a top tier battleground state. And so I'd been telling people all along, please invest in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know, the best is yet to come. And we've shown that, you know, we made President Trump a one term president and we've actually been able to be a deciding state for, you know, President-elect Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. So, yes, the South is changing, and I'm glad that this peach state has the ability to be on the front lines of that. Reading your memoir, I mean, it's inspiring,
Starting point is 00:22:58 and it's heartbreaking at the same time, because you read this tale of a woman who goes through the gripping experience of losing her son. Your son was shot by a man who felt like his friend was playing the music too loud in the car. That was it. And then try to use stand your ground laws
Starting point is 00:23:15 to defend what he had done in taking his life. You then use this, and that's become part of the title of your book, is Standing Our Ground. What do you think it is about the coalition of mothers that you've formed around the country that has moved the idea of gun advocacy forward? Well, as mothers, as women,
Starting point is 00:23:34 we're the central focus of our homes oftentimes. We're the protectors. We're often providers. And we wanna make sure that when we send our family out the door, when we send our children out the door, that they come home safely. We do everything that we can. And so building this grassroots coalition of mothers and also survivors is really indicative of what we need to do, what
Starting point is 00:23:56 we'll have to do to make sure that we are providing safe spaces for our children and our families in our own communities. And that's what we've been doing. And over 90% of the Americans across the country believe in gun safety legislation, common sense legislation that really will provide safety nets for our families. And also making sure that law-abiding gun owners are using their guns in a way that is providing um, providing a safety net as well, um,
Starting point is 00:24:27 when they're using those guns. A lot of people in your position would have become a single-issue candidate. A lot of people in your position would have gone, all I'm here to talk about is guns, but you're actually looking to improve health care, to improve gun reform, to improve veterans' health care, you know, and the support that veterans get.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And you've really been fighting for a lot of these issues, which, surprisingly, as a Democrat, you've gotten signed by Donald Trump not once, not twice, but three times. So the magic question, then, is, how have you managed to work laws or create ideas that have gotten a sign off from Republicans who have shown the ability to block so many different ideas?
Starting point is 00:25:10 I've always reached across the aisle to find some common ground with my Republican colleagues that we could work upon. Because when we don't work together, and we end up in the mess that we've been in, you know, for so long now, because we've not been working together for the sake of our constituents
Starting point is 00:25:29 that are really depending on us in Washington every single day to create value for them. Our constituents all have the same needs and wants, and let's work together to provide the best of what America says they deserve. Representative Jim Clyburn said something interesting. And this was after the results started coming in. And it was apparent that Joe Biden had won,
Starting point is 00:25:50 but down-ballot Democrats seem to have taken a beating. And he said, there is no denying that defund the police and abolish the police and socialism hurt the Democrats' message. As somebody who is elected in a state that is really moderate and very close, how do you communicate some of these ideas? Like, is there a different way
Starting point is 00:26:13 that you communicate progressive ideas without isolating, um, Republican or moderate voters? You know, I wish, of course, we'd been able to pick up more seats for the House. But, you know, you have to find what works within your own community. That's what I have said to my colleagues all the time, is that what I say or what I represent to my community might be completely different from another community, from another one of my colleagues.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I would love for us to be able to hold on to some of the seats. Some of my colleagues that came in with me, my freshman colleagues, I was very pained by the fact that, you know, they won't be returning with us. But there, again, I think that each of us has been able to, um, just really speak very candidly to our own constituents. All of our demographics are different.
Starting point is 00:26:59 But as I said, you know, there are a lot of different voices in this caucus, and that's what makes us so unique. I'll be honest, I think that's one of the things that makes you unique is that not only are you a symbol of that, but you articulate it so well to everybody who takes the time to listen. Thank you so much for sharing your story in the book. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And thank you to your family, who think that I am the thing that means you've made it. I don't agree, but I appreciate them. So thank you so much to your younger sister, because between me and her, she's right. She's not right, but between me and her, she's very right. So thank you very much. Well, thank you, Trevor. And I just want to say this. Thank you so much for having such a deep conversation with me,
Starting point is 00:27:36 because it reminds me of all the conversations I used to have at the kitchen table with Jordan. So thank you for that. Wow. Thank you very much. Thank you. That means the world to me. Hi, I'm Bob Pipman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia. On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones.
Starting point is 00:27:53 We're exploring the power of audio. The word on the street then was he's too country for pop. But then once I got to country, it was he's too pop for country. So I kind of never really had a place to fit in, but that's exactly how and why I fit. I just embraced that. Like, yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole.
Starting point is 00:28:13 I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now, because I talk to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me. Listen to Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up? I'm John Leguizamo, hosting The Daily Show.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And, uh, that's your phone, Mom. Yes. You have to wake up now. Okay, and I have a very special guest that she just blew it, because her phone went off. But my mom is here with us. And I want to ask you a couple questions. I want to show the people at home what it's
Starting point is 00:28:55 like when we're at home. I mean, we don't live in the same place anymore. Thank God for you. Tell the audience how big a pain in the neck I was. This is your chance to get off the chest. Oh my God. Because if you don't say now, don't bring it up at dinner next week or the week after or at Christmas or things when you have a whole family around you, witnesses.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Well since you were tiny, tiny, a toddler, it was a little demon running everywhere, had so much energy, it was almost impossible to... But I kept you thin. You did. Yeah, because a hyper child is a good thing. People don't realize that. We bring a lot of benefits to parents. So, Ma, you saw The Daily Show last night.
Starting point is 00:29:44 What did you think? What's your review, your critique? Oh, Ma, you saw The Daily Show last night. What'd you think? What's your review, your critique? Oh, I think that you- Because you always got notes. I think, yes, I think that you look great and you were funny and that I also loved very much when you talked to Ana. Oh, yeah, Ana's a bomb.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It was amazing. And all my friends- But you liked her better than me, right? And all my friends said, oh, fantastic, oh, beautiful. He's great, oh my God, my God. It was every second. But did you have notes? Did you have some criticisms, though?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Did I miss up something? Did I miss for you? No, I did not have criticisms because I was happy seeing you there. Like when you come see my Broadway shows you always have notes. Yes, but because they are longer. I mean, it's two hours. And what did I tell you about notes? Sometimes you take them, sometimes you say, please don't tell me.
Starting point is 00:30:43 That's mostly, it's mostly please don't tell me. Yes, yes. You're not a director. Yes. You're not part of the DGA. Yes. You're not in equity. Yes, you tell me all those things.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Yeah, yeah, no, no. So I keep them to myself. Yes, that's the best way. I love that. Now tell us a story, like a good funny story growing up. Tell me the story about when you were dating that Egyptian guy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Jan, this is great. My parents got divorced, and then my mom, you know, it was a single mom. Yeah. So I went to a luncheon of bankers, and I meet this guy that is supposedly because the friend who invited me to the luncheon. No, wait. This is for TikTok. Ninety seconds or less.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Okay. Otherwise, the poor editors. I don't know how they're going to edit it. Okay. This guy was... Give us too much backstory. Just get to the... I met this guy that was Egyptian, and my friend told me he's very rich. The guy came up to me and said, oh, you are very nice. I would like to have dinner with you. Would you like to have dinner with me? You got to get to the... That's the preamble. We're not even to the story yet. And that's even before you started dating. Okay, okay, so if he, I said-
Starting point is 00:31:48 You don't need his biography. Okay, he asked me for dinner and I said, all right. He says, he said, when is good? I said, Saturday night. Right. So I was living in Queens and that, so he said, I'll pick you up at 7.30. So it happens that he probably
Starting point is 00:32:05 came seven and then I got this is a Tolstoy version of it right this is gonna be the War and Peace crime and punishment version so you don't it happens that he comes before yeah and so I I'm in the bathroom and I'm taking a shower when oh my god you're gonna go to the whole shower come on so I got to the house let's get the guy to the house rings the bell John's opens and and I had told the guy please wait for me at the car just let me know that you are there and go and wait for me at the car but cab guy comes and John opens and John says, the guy says to John,
Starting point is 00:32:50 he didn't know that I have two children. I didn't tell him. So- Conveniently left that out. I left that out. Yeah, no, you got it. Nobody wants to date somebody with children. Right, with two boys that were a little dangerous.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So John says to him, instead of saying, yeah, she will come out in 10 minutes, or whatever, he says, please come in. He invites him in. Well, you told us not to go, not leave our rooms. Yeah. And not to talk to the man. Exactly. So, I came out to talk to the man,
Starting point is 00:33:25 dating my mom, to try to wreck the date. That was 13 or whatever. So what happens is they invite him in, he comes in and he told me after. And then my brother and I sit on either side of the guy. Yes, he told me. To question him. He said, after he found out that you were my sons,
Starting point is 00:33:41 he said, each one sat on each side. And he said, when I started talking, I think your older son started answering to me with my same accent. And then your other son was laughing. You know, Sergio was laughing. He was my stooge. Yeah. And so they said, I was, He says, I was, at the beginning I said, is he? Marking him? Is he marking me or is my, you know, but so he said I kept talking to them and Jan kept answering to me, I mean, your son,
Starting point is 00:34:16 kept answering to me with my accent. You know what, the guy took me to the dinner, he said me he didn't come back to Queens, he said me with the driver, He said he didn't come back to Queens. He sent me with the driver, and I never heard of him anymore. Well, good, we got rid of him. That was just a test.
Starting point is 00:34:32 That was the story. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for joining us. Next week, we'll go into another very long, in-depth story brought to you by the Leguizamos. Do you still hold that hope that someday I'm gonna get a real job? Well, I wasn't, when I saw your first, when you invited me to that school that you were.
Starting point is 00:34:52 PS 122, downtown. No, no, no. When you were already taking drama lessons. Sylvia was in the. Sylvia Lee showcased it. That was in a school, oh, acting school. The acting school. When, acting school, acting. The acting school. When, you know, before that, I thought maybe, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:10 he's going to be at this for a couple of months and then he was going to do something else. But when I went and saw that show, I said, oh my God, he is going to be an actor. He was 10 minutes, it was a 10- I got it like that. I do, I got it. I was always-
Starting point is 00:35:28 It was amazing to me. Doing voices and parties. And I said, oh my, I said my son is going to be an actor. So I said to myself- And people could talk at the same time and hear the conversation. I need to help him. I do this at Christmas parties and things. We all talk at the same cross conversations and hear each other, right?
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah. Before I got divorced, I got a fur coat, and one day I came home and he was with my fur coat, being like a pimp. Pimp. Like a pimp. No, I don't think this is for mass consumption. I was laughing. Oh my God, I thought that it was so funny because he was really acting like a pimp.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He had a hat, my fur coat. All right, thank you everybody. We're moving on. Loose Leguizamo. How's my grandmother doing? Oh, she's fantastic, man. 91 years old and 10 months. Yeah, she makes me count the years and months as well.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Now, it's a new thing. She's, did she cook for me? No, she's too old. Oh, no, no, no. She even says to me, I was like, what do you do, Gogo? She's like, oh, me. She's like, I just enjoy being alive. I mean, all she does is she, we're ready?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, all she does is she chills at home. Like she's got like her squad of grannies and they all just come and hang out. And she, it's like a weird team of like superheroes where they've all got their specialties. And then hers is that her memory is bulletproof. So all her friends ask her about things they've forgotten about in life.
Starting point is 00:37:10 But I'm like, like she's got a better memory than me, my mom, everybody. She can tell you what year a thing happened, what month, everything. And so her friends come over and they'll be, and they'll ask like random questions. They'll be like, no, my Lizo. Like, where did I meet my husband?
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then she'd be like, oh, you met her. And then she'd like tell stories and all that. It's amazing to watch, yeah. And so all she does all day, she just, she loves writing. That's what she does. And I asked her why and she said, she says, to be 91 and know how to still read and write. Oh, I'm so blessed. So that's all she does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:46 My grandmother says it the best. She says, you know what, Trevor, in life, there are butterflies and there are flowers. The butterfly's job is to fly around and come back and tell the flower what it's seen. You are a butterfly. Your mother is a flower. You and your grandmother. Oh, yeah, she was great. She was really fun. She still doesn't get
Starting point is 00:38:02 what we were doing, because she doesn't watch the daily show. Does she know what you do? Have you sent her tapes or anything? No, no, doesn't get what we were doing haha she doesn't what she said or no certain and you know what's great is that she doesn't care. That's what I love so my grand just goes East Trevor that's why I like him. So I don't her love of me to be determined by what I do or don't do in my work world. I interviewed my grandmother for the Daily show and she like does not know what I do how I I do it, why I do it.
Starting point is 00:38:25 People tell her and she's just like, when they say we saw your grandson on The Daily Show, she thinks they means like somewhere, like they saw me somewhere. And she'd be like, oh, my friend saw you at Daily Show. And I'm like, on The Daily Show. And he's like, yeah, whatever. Coco, have you ever watched The Daily Show?
Starting point is 00:38:42 Oh, true. And you can find it on load-shedding. Load-shedding, yes. They put us on this, they put us on that. So heck a lot. They want to let the STV, let this outside. It's just never fun. My grand said she doesn't watch my show because sometimes the electricity cuts out Which is a very plausible excuse and a nice way to let your grandson down No, it's not letting my grandson down
Starting point is 00:39:16 We had no electricity No, I hear you go go this is I didn't expect that answer to it's a good answer Google So I must make sure that you have a generator so you can watch my show. Wonderful. And then you fit the generator. Who fits the generator? Okay, so I must get someone to fit the generator also.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I think so. Okay. And I look, I look the power cable with the STV. Oh, and then I must also fix the cable. Okay. I feel like I've been tricked into doing a lot of things for you to watch my TV show, Coco. LAUGHS
Starting point is 00:39:54 At Boggy's place. LAUGHS I... I go to the bank and I'm joking. So, I can't convince you to come and see that I manage white people? No. I don't even wish. I only take you as my grandson, and that is all. I appreciate that, Gogo.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Thank you for having us, Gogo, and thank you for letting me bring these cameras. And thank you for sharing these stories with my friends. And thank you for being amazing. with my friends. And thank you for being amazing. You've brought too many friends. I've brought too many friends. You guys must leave now. You guys must go. Bye bye. Watch The Daily Show, weeknights at 11, 10 Central, on Comedy Central. And stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. Paramount Podcasts. Hi, I'm Bob Pitman, chairman and CEO of iHeartMedia.
Starting point is 00:41:00 On this week's episode of Math and Magic, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio. Yeah, I'm sitting down with the one and only Bobby Bones. We're exploring the power of audio. Yeah, I don't fit into one specific hole. I think that is what endeared me to listeners. That's why I'm here now because I talk to people that grew up like me, have sensibilities like me, and have loyalties like me. Listen to Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio
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