The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Terry Crews - "Tough: My Journey to True Power"

Episode Date: May 2, 2022

"I had to redefine what tough was in my life." Terry Crews discusses his emotional journey of growing up in an abusive household and reflects on the "Black Supremacy" backlash he faced on Twitter.See ...omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Terry Cruz. What? What? What? Oh! What? What?
Starting point is 00:00:12 What? What? Yeah! Oh, oh! Oh, oh. Oh, I'm gonna show you how to do it, man. You're doing it right now. I'm gonna show you how to do it, man. You're doing it right now. I'm gonna show you how to do it? It looks like you've got like six cell phones in your jacket and they're all ringing at the same time.
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Starting point is 00:01:05 Yes, yes. I had to redefine what tough was in my life. You know what I mean? As a kid, I mean, first of all, I was filled with rage. And I'm going to start at the beginning just a little bit because my father was an alcoholic and he was addicted to alcohol and my mother was addicted to religion which created a really toxic relationship and at five years old I grew up watching my father knock my mother out on the regular right and it was something that changed me I mean my whole thing when I saw him do that I was like hey man it's your world this it's your way or the highway and I and I learned that that, I was like, hey, man, it's your world, it's your way or the highway, and I learned that that was the only way to be a man.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And it was through rage. And it was, I would rather be feared than loved. And it got me a lot. I lived my life like it was a revenge movie. Okay. And a lot of people see me now, you know, as, oh yeah, it's so funny and so great and the whole thing, but this is the thing, man. I, I was filled with rage.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And I mean, I used to snap on people. I read that in the book, and I'm not even joke, like, in the first Terry on the show. Because you, like in the book you talk about this journey, you know, and you talk about young Terry, you know, and you like it's like there's multiple Terry's in this book in your story. You talk about young Terry and you talk about your dad as old Terry, big Terry and you know, you talk about the terror and the fear but also the rage that you felt at being unable to protect your mom, unable to protect the house, and you were scared. But then it gets to a part of the book where one day you developed enough and you beat your father like in one of the scariest ways. I got them. And this was so wild because, you know, going up in that kind of household with the intense alcohol and religion, the whole thing thing I became a pleaser. I became, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. the the thin, the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, the thi, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th.... You, th. You, you, you, th. You, you, you, you, th. You, th. You, you, you, th. You, thin, thin, the the the thin, the the the.a, they.a, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, you, you're, you a pleaser. I became a searcher for, I wanted
Starting point is 00:03:05 approval and I was addicted to approval. And the thing is, is that if I didn't get it, it was one of those things that would make me very, very, you know, angry. But one thing that I discovered, once, by the time I became an adult and I said, you know, I knew I needed to get strong because one day I would have to kill my father. That was the vision that I always had in my head because he was such a terror in our house. And one day, he, I mean, as a grown man, I was 30 years old and I remember, we called it a Christmas from hell and I get a little emotional thinking about it, but I took my family home for Christmas and he told me that he was going to behave and I said cool because they
Starting point is 00:03:51 hadn't been around and my kids had never been raised with any domestic violence. And me and my wife go out and he decides he's going to hit my mother in the mouth. And what was crazy, I get a call, we're on the road, we're about to go to dinner, and my mother, my aunt calls me and says, your mother just got hit in the mouth, her tooth is sideways. Man, I turned the car around, and I told him, get everybody out of the house, and just leave us alone. And I went and I confronted him and I said,
Starting point is 00:04:25 hey man, what are you doing? You promised. And he said, oh man, get out of here man, and BAH! And I hit this man. I don't know how long it was. I know I beat him from downstairs all the way up to his room. He's bleeding. He's screaming. And I, all I could think about is this is
Starting point is 00:04:48 revenge. This is what I always wanted. This is what you made us go through. This is the revenge. This is going to fulfill every dream, every fantasy, everything is going to be in this moment and I felt nothing. You talk about that. It's a scary moment where you're wailing on him and then you cry at the end of it and you felt even emptier than when that moment started. You didn't feel powerful, you didn't feel, you didn't get the revenge that you thought you were going to get. You didn't get the closure. I did it. And I'm like, this is supposed to be the end of the movie. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. And thi. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the the the the the the the the the the the end, the end, the end, the the the the th. And, the the the the th. And, th. And, the th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And th. And the. And the. And the. And the. And the. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the the end of the movie. Did you know at that moment that Terry had anger issues or did you think that was an isolated incident? No, no, my wife was telling me the whole time.
Starting point is 00:05:29 She's like, you got, you are really angry. What do you mean I'm angry? You know, I'm getting angry and you're telling me I'm angry. And I never saw it. You understand, it's something that's so imperceptible because you have it tied in with your manhood. This is something that's tied into you. It's provost. And you go, hey man, this is what you do. Somebody, I remember one man, disrespected my wife, I picked him up, put him on his head on the concrete and my wife and my wife is like, no, you have to promise me you will never ever do this again. And I'm like, but I have to to, but to, but to, but to to to to, to, to to to to to to to. to to. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that thi, thi, that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. thr. And I'm like, but I have to. This is what I'm supposed to do. This is how I prove I'm a man.
Starting point is 00:06:08 This is what I put on earth to do. How did you change that? That's what I want to know. Like, people talk about the change. But how do you change that? How does Terry go from being the person who's an ton't. the person. the person. the person. the person. the person. the person. th th th th to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. toe, toe, toe, toe, to to to to to to to to to toe, th to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I th. I toe, toe, too. too. too. too. too. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I proves himself to the person who says, I'm not going to react. Because I'll jump to another part in the book that some people know about as a story, but you've never told it in as much depth as you have in the book, is the now infamous story, where you were in a Hollywood party, and one of the most powerful agents in the business is there, and he comes up and he grabs the You know and at first you're like oh was that a mistake what's going on and he
Starting point is 00:06:47 laughs and he grabs your crutch again in front of everybody and he just laughs it off and you didn't do anything and the irony of the whole thing is then people on line were like man Terry Cruz you gonna have all those you to their muscles and you don't go to do shit and someone grabs your dick you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And he's th. And he's g. And he's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And he's the the the the the their th. And he's their th. And he's their their their th. And he's they. And he's they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they's they's they's they's they's th. th're like, well these fake muscles, inflatable muscles, people are roasting you. But you talk about in the book how you didn't want to do anything. That's right. Explain to me how that change comes about. What shifts in your perspective? First of all, it was 2017. And I'd already been through seven years of therapy.
Starting point is 00:07:19 their theat. in 2010. First of all I had an addiction to pornography, I had anger, I had all kinds of stuff, and she was like, you know what, I'm done. And this is the thing, I was very successful. You know what I mean? I mean, I had movies and TV and everybody knew who I was and my trick to life was fake it to you make it. But the problem is you make it and you're fake. You're still fake. It was an image. It was the Terry Cruz image is what everybody fell in love. And my wife ended up married to that image. But the real me was still messed up, broke it. And when she left me it was the highlight. It was like, wait a minute. And first I was like, go ahead. I'm Terry Cruz. Go give me another woman. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. It the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. It was was was was was the tie. It was tie. tie. tie. too. try. try. try. tttttry. tttry. ttttry. ttry. try. t. t. t.. It was like, wait a minute. And first I was like, go ahead. I'm Terry Cruz, too.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Go give me another woman. And it was so stupid because I heard myself talking like this. And I went, maybe it's me. And dude, you gotta understand, I got the best advice I ever received in my entire life. A friend of mine said, hey man, I can't promise you you're gonna get your wife and family back. But you have to get better for you. Now my whole life therapy, especially in male culture,
Starting point is 00:08:33 in black culture, therapy was looked at as quackery. I mean, they were like, you can't cure crazy. And that was, that was a said a lot, you know. In fact, my father went to go see a psychologist for his alcoholism. The psychologist killed himself a week later. Damn. And I was like, oh, that don't work. Damn. And I'm going, what?
Starting point is 00:08:53 But this was the thing. I'm at rock bottom. I have nothing. That was your D-day. And that was the D-day day. therapy and I discovered this anger and where it was coming from and this this you know this need for people's approval that would send me through the roof that would make me a high achiever you understand I mean like you know you knew how to use it to get where you need to go yeah I mean that's where the
Starting point is 00:09:16 success comes from but the disapproval brought the rage so now Terry Cruz has this rage he's's working on it, he goes to therapy. Sometimes I feel like what happens to people though is they don't understand that anger is a natural part of being a human being. And so when they come out, they go, now I have no anger. The universe is my spirit. Yeah. So now, how do you deal with anger? How do you deal with it? What did you learn as a healthy outlet for your anger? First of all, you know, I did come out like that the first year. I was like, peace and love to everyone. And it was the baddest acting I ever did.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Like, sit your ass down. Peace and love. You know, it was bad. Yes. It was horrible. But I actually got to understand. Remember now, this is the whole thing, you can be angry and sin not. It's a biblical phrase. Yes. And the whole thing was righteous anger is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And it was about accountability. Holding people accountable is how you deal with your anger. It's like, there's a legal way to do everything. My answer to everything before was like playing chess, it's turn over the chessboard. Right. I was like if I can't get a problem, ah! And what I learned was wait, wait, wait, I got to use wisdom here. I have to figure out this problem. Maybe going backward, I can go forward two steps. And all of a sudden my everything about the energy toward anyone that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the. the the the. the their their the thi. their toeateateateateate. to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. I was was was was was was was their. I was was was was their. I was their. I was was their. I their. I was their. I was th. I was the. I was to their to the. toe. I was toe. toe. toe. I was toe. I was toea. I was toea. I was toea. I toea. I toeananan. I'm toean. I their thean anyone that I was angry at was a thoughtful, methodical move.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And this is what I did with Adam Vennett. It was, it changed everything because I knew, because my wife had made me promise too. She was like, don't, we ever do it. I was like, yeah, I promised. But that was the test. And I remember taking her hand, and we went into the car, and I drove home. And now, mind you, my first mindset was to drive back through the club and like Terminator.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You know, I was going to do it. But I went home, but you got to understand this. Because the support that I had, the whole time I was driving home, the wife said, I'm prouding..... I was the the the the the thau... I was, I was, I was, the the their. I was, their. I was, their. I was, their. I was, their. I was, their. I was, their. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. their, thriving. thi and I was driving to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive to drive, to drive, to drive, to drive, to drive, to drive, their. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was driving. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to to tria. tria. triv. tria. tooomorrow. to thaa. to to tria. to to triv. to of you because she saw me throwing people around. She's seen it. She was like I'm so proud of you. That first time where you had broken the patent. That support that said I'm doing this right. I'm doing this right. And then I went legal and I went to the head of of William Morris Endeavor and I said what are you going to do about this predator that you have running in your hall hall And they were like, well, you know, he's the big man, so we can't do anything. And I was like, hell no.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I said, dude, you work for me and he laughed. He laughed in my face. And I said, wow, okay. And you know what, it made me more embold me more. And I went like, to to to to to to, okay, okay, okay, okay, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and I'm, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, than, than, than, than, than, than, than, than, than, thr.ean, throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. and this game? We're going to play it. We're going to play it all the way out. And what happened is, quiet has kept, other people joined my case. Because you don't rob the biggest bank in the state, right? You always robbanks. And what was happening is, there were little people, there were all these other people that came out to say, hey, they said, the same.......... And they. And they. And they. And they. And they. And they were, hey, they. And they. they. they're, they. they. they. they. they. their. their. their. their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. And their. And their. And their. And their. And their. Because, because, because, because, because, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, because. And, the. And, they. And, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. t they. theymea. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. And, because. And their same thing to me. And they joined my case and he was like, oh, white flag, I'm out of here, I'm going to retire. And I didn't want any money.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I just said, man, you cannot molest the clients and go back to work. That's all. I said, dude, that's all I wanted. You can't go back to work. And he's out. is the thing. Checkmate. So, so great. I remember that moment distinctly because you, you know, you came out, the Me Too movement was happening, you know, you spoke out about your case. People were shocked and, you know, a lot of men were emboldened to say like, hey, I've
Starting point is 00:12:58 also had this issue and yes, you know, statistically men are minuscule compared to women, but it was an interesting story that gave a fuller complexity to what we're trying to get rid of in society. People loved you, like Terry Cruz on Twitter, it was amazing. And then you talk about this in the book. A few years after that, Terry Cruz on Twitter became one of the most hated individuals almost overnight. It was people like, he's a coon. He was, he betrayed black people, he was, and it all came around Black Lives Matter. That's what it came around, was Black Lives Matter, and you said something, and I paraphrase it, you know, because in the book you talk it and you lay out the tweet,
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Starting point is 00:14:15 with the idea of reconciliation, we are just postponing a greater war. And my whole thing is, I didn't hear a lot of reconciliation because reconciliation doesn't meet agreement. Yes. You know what I mean? It's one of those things. I want to bring this up because there's a story about the wisest man in the world. It was Solomon and two women came to them and they brought a baby and they said we have this baby and this baby and this baby. The both says, Solomon, the wisest is is w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w w wi w wi wi, so th is wise, so th is wise, so, so, so, so, the wi, the wi, I wi, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I was, I was, I was, I was, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was, I was, I'm, I th. I'm, I'm, I'm th. th. th. that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, that, I'm that, I'm that, I'm that, I going to do is cut the baby in half and I'll give you a half of a baby and you get the other half. And one woman said, yes, that's the way we do it. But the other woman said, no, no, save this baby. No, in fact,
Starting point is 00:14:56 give it to her. And he said, that's the mom. That's reconciliation. It doesn't mean you get the result the result It means you're saving it because dividing it is going to kill it. And when I look at America, dividing it is going to kill it. And the whole thing is reconcile. We have to reconcile. We have to, white and black, male and female, Republican, Democrat, we have to find a way to reconcile, or we're going to kill what we have. It's beautiful as a thought, and I agree, and I I I I I I I thage, and I thiiiiii have to find a way to reconcile or we're going to kill what we have. It's beautiful as a thought and I agree with it.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I think the issue, I think the issue some people had, you know, is reconciliation cannot take place before there's any type of accountability. In order for us to reconcile there has to be some sort of accountability. People have to say this is what is happening and this is what we're going to do to rectify to to to to to to to to do to rectify, to do to to to to to rectify, to to to to to to to rec, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the, and their. I'm, and their. I'm, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and I. I. I. I the, and I the, and I the, and I. I the, and I. I the, and I. I the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the. I the. I the. I the. try. tipe. tp-s. try. tp-s. tp-Ia. tell, try. tp-a. tell, th. th thin. th. th. t reconcile, there has to be some sort of accountability. People have to say, this is what is happening, and this is what we're going to do to rectify that situation. Just like you talked about reconciling with your wife, you know? In order for you guys to reconcile, you had to fix, you had to acknowledge, you had to say, I have a problem. And I think what a lot of people tho tho tho tho tho tho tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to to, to, to, thi, to, to, to, to, to, and, to, to, and, to, and, to, and, and, and, and, to, to, to, tho, and, th. th. th. tho, tho, tho, to, tho, to, to, tho, tho, to, tho, to, tho, to, tho, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, to, to, to, to, to, to, too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too, too, to saying something that in my honest opinion is almost a step ahead, but people are going, yeah, but Terry, right now we're looking for accountability first. Right now, black people in America are saying, hey, can we
Starting point is 00:16:13 just have an agreement on how America does not treat everybody equally? Yes. You know, we don't want everyone to be treated equally badly. No, I totally agree. And it it felt like to some people you had, you had skipped, you're, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te, te, te, te, te, te, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, te, te, te, te, te, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, the, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, t. Yeah, t. t. t. te, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. treated equally. No, I totally agree. And it felt like to some people you had, you had skipped, you were just like, guys, kumbaya. Yeah. Yeah. I totally, I totally understand that. But this is another thing. And I agree. And you can't have a nuanced conversation on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Oh yeah, yeah. That was first mistake. That was the first mistake. If there was any accident, that was it. That was maybe one of my favorite parts of the book is when you talk about, because you tweeted that and you can tell when someone thinks they got swag in the tweet, you were like, let me tell you something, what we didn't do this world, white supremacy, black supremacy, that's not what I mean. That's not what's going on. You know what I mean? But you can't have that. I totally understand that. And I think you're right. And I know you're right. And I actually, one of my things
Starting point is 00:17:19 was, it's just when I know my people and I love my people, the big thing was black people need to hold other black people accountable. Which they do. We see, accountability, right, and we do, and we do, and we do, and I'm not saying we don't. But my thing is, as a black man and as a man who had been in these kind of situations, I just knew that it needed to be said by someone like me. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:51 In order, because my thing is, I just wanted peace. And I guess it goes back to my need for approval. It went back to my need for approval, it went back to that. And again, it was a mistake. It was a mistake to tweet that out at that time. And I'll be honest. That was the thing funny enough because Martin Luther King Jr. has talked about black supremacy.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Exactly. Nelson Mandela himself was one of the people who said, I don't look for the oppression of white people, I don't look for the oppression of black people. I don't want anybody to be oppressed, right? But the timing I think was the issue. Yeah, it was. I say that in the book. Yeah, you were going, that's not what I was trying to do. No. And I think, you know, this is one of those moments where I was like, that's why books over, it, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, I, I, the, I, I, the, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I tho, I thin, I the, I thin, I tho, I tho, tho, I tho, I thi, I thi, I thi, I the, I the issue, I the issue, I the, I the, I the, I thin, I thin, I thin, I thin, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I thin, I thin, was, was, was, was, I thin, was, was, was, was, thin, thin, was, thin, th... th. th. th. th., I, honestly, I appreciated your, just like your vulnerability, your ability to say this is where I messed up, this is what I was trying to say, because I was reading it
Starting point is 00:18:52 and I was like, why did you send the tweet? Why did you trust Twitter? I know, I know. Twitter doesn't try to understand you. And I, first of all, I learned my lesson big time, first of all. But I do feel like, again, because of this need for approval that I was addicted to, it's a matter of also exercising the will to take disapproval. You understand what I mean? Where really, sometimes standing up for the right thing, not everyone is going to like you. And, and again, I still know who I know who I am. I know who I am. I, because, because because because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, and I, because, because, and I, because, and I, because, because, and I, because, because, because, because, and I, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, I, because, I mean? Where really, sometimes standing up for the right thing,
Starting point is 00:19:25 not everyone is going to like you. And again, I still know who I am, but at the same time, I mean, I would never ever tweet again, to be honest, it's all going to be cat videos and promotion. And again, and I really, I mean, even on this show right now, and I'm gonna let you know, I really do want to apologize to anybody who was offended by these tweets and was hurt deeply, because as an example, as an African-American man,
Starting point is 00:19:58 a black man here in this country, I did not want to give the perception, that we're supposed to gloss this over and forget the death of George Floyd, the murder of George Floyd. And I want to apologize to everyone right now who was ever offended because it hurt. And even back, I was trying to explain, it just got worse and worse, and this is where the book came in, because the need is for us as a people to actually come together and really really be what we need to be to this country because it's our country this is our country
Starting point is 00:20:35 we die and fought and I'm not giving it away this is our inheritance I love you. Appreciate you know I appreciate you know thank you it, you know. Appreciate it, for real. You know, thank you. No, no, what I, what I, what I, what I, what I always say to people is, you will find somebody who has messed up. And you will find someone who's been misinterpreted. Thank you so much for being on the show.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for being on the show. Oh man. Thank you. Thank you. Terry's book, Top, my journey to true powers available now. Watch the Daily Show, weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.

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