The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Best of Michael Kosta as Guest Host

Episode Date: October 22, 2023

It's The Daily Show's first week back, with Michael Kosta as guest host! Here are some of his funniest headline moments from the week, his take on solving America's plastic water bottle problem, and highlights from his interviews with Ian Bremmer, Emily Oster, Rhiannon Giddens, and Jordan Jonas.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

John Stewart here, unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show, we're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to the Daily Show. I'm Michael Costa. We are back on the air. Holy shit, it's been five months. Man, I love my family, but not for five months.

This is my first night, and I'm very excited to be here. I've always wanted to host a late night show. I was hoping that it would be on a major network, but I'll take whatever channel this is gone. Now, we have a great show for you tonight, so let's get into the headlines. Obviously, there's one big story in the world right now that we have to cover, the Taylor Swift movie. And we'll get to that later. But first, I want to talk about something that stirs up almost as much passion the Middle East. That's right.

It's my big week as guest host, and I get Israel Palestine. I don't mean to complain, but as far as scheduling goes, this unspeakably tragic geopolitical crisis is not super convenient time for me right now. Because no matter what I come up with, people are just going to say, this guy doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And you're right. That's pretty much the only opinion everyone can agree on.

Michael Costa is an idiot. What do I know about the Middle East? I'm from the Middle West. I'm from Michigan. The best way I would describe my position on the Middle East is poorly educated and that sounds harsh but at least I'm aware of it because I read a lot of your posts online and sometimes it's better not to pretend you know what you're talking about. I have friends on Facebook who have the whole Middle East figured out when I know for a fact they can't even get car insurance. Hey Joe, interesting points, don't you have

three do you eyes? Maybe you should focus on you. Thankfully this is why later to tonight, I will bring on an actual expert, political scientist, Ian Bremer will be here to help us make sense of it. But here's what I'll say for now. There's a cycle of violence here that that feels like it's never ending. It's been going on my whole life, and apparently even longer than that. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who wishes that that that that that that that that that that feels like it's never ending. It's been going on my whole life, and apparently even longer than that. And I'm sure I'm not the only one who wishes that this cycle would end.

And everyone has an opinion for who's responsible for it. It's Israel, it's Palestine, it's Netanyahu, it's Hamas. Everyone's taking a side, but everyone is wrong. Because I spent the weekend reading two lengthy Wikipedia articles and I think it's pretty clear who we can blame for all of this mess. The British. Okay? Yeah. Yeah.

Fee'fee you, Britain. And your nursing home king. They're the ones who barred into the Middle East a hundred years ago and drew the borders that caused all this mess. And they did it all around the world, by the way. Like, how much of modern civilization is just undoing all of Britain's bad decisions? You want to know how bad they faked up maps? They made Ireland two Ireland's.

It's an island. It didn't need borders. But the British were like, hey there you go. So maybe that's the best way we can find peace. Israel and Palestine, it's time to put your grievances aside. And join together to invade Britain. Yeah. Yeah. invade Britain. Let's move on to some business news. Right-Aid, the only pharmacy chain that hasn't refused to print my pictures announced that

it's filing for bankruptcy. Just when I was about to buy that one DVD player that's been sitting behind the register since 2003. Seriously, this news is shocking to buy that one DVD player that's been sitting behind the register since 2003. Seriously, this news is shocking to me. Are you telling me it's a bad business model to have one employee for every six stores? I mean, maybe they'd have more profit if their deodorant wasn't locked up in a maximum security prison? Of course these guys were going to go out of business. I mean, just look at their logo. They were mashing their medicines the old-fashioned way. That's how I make guacamole.

It's tragic though, because as a part of this move, they sadly had to lay off their entire custodial staff 10 years ago. My point is, Rite aid sucks and I'm glad this happened to them. I am going to keep going to them though because they're the closest to my apartment. Also, in a related story, Spirit Halloween just opened 9,000 new locations. Anyway, let's move on to the biggest cluster of f-ext outside of the Middle East, the U.S. Congress. Two weeks ago, the House was thrown into chaos by Matt Gates,

Florida Republican, and what happens when you photocopy Matthew McConaughey too many times. He staged a coup against Kevin McCarthy, Speaker of the House, and what happens when you photocopy Matthew McConaughey too many times. He staged a coup against Kevin McCarthy, Speaker of the House, and what happens when you photocopy John Slattery too many times. And after that, everyone said the Republicans were too divided to elect a new speaker, and it turns out, everyone was right. In breaking news. Chaos on Capitol Hill, the Republican House dysfunction continues as the

fight for a new Speaker of the House continues to sputter. Congressman Jim Jordan of Ohio did not even come close to clenching the speakership. He failed rather ignominiously to win the gavel on the first ballot. Jim Jordan has 20 Republicans who decided to vote for someone other than him. In a few cases, they voted for a guy who isn't even in Congress anymore. Jordan! That's right. A big loss today for Jim Jordan, Ohio representative, and what you get when you photocopy your grandfather's toe too many times. So, as of now, it's been two weeks of Republicans arguing with each other, and too many times. So as of now it's been two weeks of

Republicans arguing with each other and they still haven't been able to agree on a new speaker which is a big deal. The speaker of the house is the person responsible for speaking in in the house so if they don't have one then nobody is speaking and it's just so quiet in there. And Congress can't do anything until they figure this out. They can't pass laws, they can't send foreign aid to Ukraine, and they can't impeach Hunter Biden's penis. Right now, Congress is basically Mitch McConnell, totally frozen, and no one knows how to fix it. It's okay to show that because he said he's fine.

John Stewart here. Unbelievably exciting news. My new podcast, The Weekly Show. We're going to be talking about the election, economics, ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. Listen to the Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Let's talk about water. It's the thing you hope you just sat in on the subway. According to doctors, we're supposed to drink water

basically every day. And in America, most of us do that with the help of these. The number one package drink in the United States, isn't Coke or Gatorade or even Haterade. It's bottled water. We Americans buy 50 billion disposable water bottles a year. And I know what you're thinking, oh shit, another depressing environment story. So can I not even drink water without ruining my children's future?

But that's the thing. This is one environment story that actually has a really easy solution. And I'm gonna tell you what it is, another installment of long story short. For most of human history, people got by fine without bottled water. People got water from their well or the local stream or by throwing a virgin into a volcano so it would rain. It was a perfect system. For water bottles started to become popular in the 80s, mainly for health reasons. In 1986, the EPA warned Americans

that their tap water might be turning them into number two pencils. This might sound familiar to you if you grew up in the 80s or in Jackson, Mississippi last week. And then marketers smelled money. And soon, bottled water wasn't just about health, but a whole healthy, sexual lifestyle. Keep your body at its peak. Drink Avion.

Pure Avion spring water from the French house. It's refreshing, it's natural, and it doesn't have one single calorie. Imported berrier. It goes with good food. It's what I drink instead of a cocktail. It's what I drink instead of a cocktail. Sure, but you can just say you've got DUIs, all right? We've all got DUIs. Look, props to these water companies, they turned water into something sexy as opposed

to something you just need to survive. These ads were basically like, oxygen. It really helps me lay pipe. So fast forward to today. Thank you. Great performance. So, fast forward to today. Thank you. Great performance. So fast forward to today and the average American drinks upwards to 167 bottles

a year, usually right before a long haul flight when I'm in the aisle seat. Hey, just be an adult and wear a diaper like the rest of us. Now you might be asking, where does all that water come from? The ocean? No, I tried that once. I got so sick. In reality, in order to get bottled water to the masses, water companies like Nestle often suck up water from public lands for little to no cost.

It's not awesome, right? We love it when multinational conglomerates find success. The problem is, this creates a massive environmental impact. When these companies are called out for it, they come up with explanations like this. Nelson Switzer is Nestle Waters' chief sustainability officer. Some people would say, this is the people's water. Is it fair that you guys make so much money off of it? Nestle has water rights, of course, in this area.

From a legal standpoint, of course it's fair. From a perception standpoint, I understand why people are asking that question. But water belongs to no one. Oh, really? Really, Nestle? Water belongs to no one? That's the dumbest thing anyone has ever said about water. And keep in mind, Gwenneth Paltrow once said that you can hurt water's feelings by yelling at it. If water really belongs to no one, then why can't I go swimming in my neighbor Eric's coy pond? Why did it scare his kids, per the police report? But sucking up all the fresh water is just the beginning of our problems.

Making the bottles and shipping them to you uses 17 million barrels of oil a year. That's enough oil to fill one million cars for a whole year or grease up Don Jr. for one weekend. Plus most bottles just get thrown in the trash. Oh, but I recycle it. Okay, thanks for putting it in the green bin before they send it to Malaysia where they put it in the trash there. And the stupidest part is it's totally almost unnecessary. The majority of the country has access to safe, free tap water. We're transporting a product from 3,000 miles away that we can get from our kitchens. In fact, most of the bottle water we drink is literally tap water, including aquifina and Dessani. That's

right. Dissani just takes tap water, adds fart smell to it, and that's how they make Dissani. And maybe you buy natural spring water because it's healthier, but it turns out not always. In fact, a study of Fiji water found that it has more arsenic than tap water from Cleveland. Yet you thought bottled water was safer? Turns out it's slowly poisoning you like a wife on date line. So considering that tap water is good enough for the vast majority of us, the solution to huge environmental problems of bottled water is obvious. Boom. Problem solved. problems of bottled water is obvious.

Boom! Problem solved! Using a refillable water bottle cuts down on fossil fuels, creates less waste, and could even save you $16,000 over its lifetime. That's enough to pay for a luxury vacation or 16 shitty vacations. So long story short, this is like the easiest choice in the history of no-brainers. If everyone in the United States just went with the reuse of water bottles, we'd save money, solve an environmental crisis. And the best part of that is then that's one less environmental crisis you'd have to hear people like me bitching about. You

probably already have nine of these. Open a cabinet in your kitchen and one will fall on you. And tomorrow start using it. That's how you save the plan. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're gonna be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches.

And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with and author of the power of crisis. He helps business leaders, policy makers, and people like me make sense of the world. Please welcome Ian Bremer. All right.

So, thanks for coming. Have to be here. I'm trying to be a global citizen. I'm trying, I'm trying to be a global citizen. I'm trying, I'm try, I'm try, I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I try, try, try, try. I try. I try. I try. try. try. try. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theanks for coming. I'm trying to be a global citizen. I'm trying, I can't plead ignorance anymore to this part of the world. It was convenient for me for a while. What can I do? What can anybody do? I mean, what, other than just hear these sad stories or like something on Instagram,

is there any action, how can I educate myself further? I would say spend less time on social media. It's dehumanizing, it's disinformation, it's actively destroying our democracy and others around the world. It is making, algorithmically, it's taking people and it's making them angrier and more hateful than anything they would experience in real life. So, if you want to make a difference, the last place you can make a difference is on social media where you're only exchanging information with people that are telling you, here's exactly what you need to believe, and those are the people you need to hate.

No, it's spending more time with your family, with your community, in your school. It's with people that aren't just like you, algorithmically. That's what you need to do. Really simple question, not to be insensitive, but for so many Americans that see this as something so far away, why should they care about what's happening? Because in principle, we the United States stand for something beyond just ourselves. I mean, maybe America First doesn't quite say that, but the Statue of Liberty does.

We all came from somewhere, right? I mean, the Jews and the Palestinians are the same people. They came from the same place. They've grown up in the same home. And we as Americans who have historically represented that ethos better than anyone else on the planet. How can we not care when that is falling apart right now in the most tragic possible way in front of our eyes? How can we not care about that? Yeah.

That's why it matters to us as Americans. Not because oil is going to 150. No, it's because we as Americans, if we stand for anything, we stand for that. My guest tonight is an economist at Brown University, an author of several books on data-driven parenting. Please welcome Emily Oster. Hello. All right. Exciting, huh? I'm excited. Data. And parenting, and babies. Data parenting is nice.

I like the term, it sounds good. But when my three-year-old is punching me in the face on Father's Day for the three times that day and I'm about to lose it. I'm not thinking about data. So there are some problems. OK, yeah. There are some problems for which data isn't necessarily going to fix the problem. But I think there's another piece of data in parenting. And I think this is really true that like we can use data to feel less alone.

And that's% of kids hit. And 100% of them kids hit their dad. And so you're not alone, because 100% of other people were also hit on Father's Day. And in some sense, I think that that tells us that we're doing okay. There's nothing wrong with your kid. They just just just just just just th. T th. T there th. T there's just there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing. There's nothing's nothing. There's nothing's nothing's nothing there's nothing there's nothing. There's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there's nothing there's something something's something's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's no there's not there's not there's no there's not there's no there's no there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's not there's no. There's no. There's no something's no something's no something's no something. There's no something's nothings something. There's no something. There's no something. There's no something. There's no something. There's no something. There's no something. There's nothing's something. There's something's something's something's something is this data coming from? Survey. That's like a very, yeah, okay survey. So data comes from a lot of places. Actually when I teach an economist, I teach a Brown, one of the big things I teach people is like where does data come from? And the answer is it comes from surveys. We ask people and

the data has its limitations. we don't always ask the most representative set of people, and we don't always analyze it in the ways that get us closest to causality. But the fundamental answer is we get data on people by asking people about their behaviors and what they do and by collecting information on how their kids do. I didn't realize how much my parents parenting me was going to turn me, excuse me. I thought I would parent differently. Better. I had great parents, but I thought I would do things differently. Am I, are we just doomed? Is there, is there data on this?

Okay, there is data on some, there are some things you probably do differently. And so, and sometimes because we've advanced our data, you know, you probably put your baby sleep on their back and your parents probably put you sleep on your stomach because we learn more about data. Yes. That we can discuss that later. But I think it is it is of course true that we're all products of our own parenting but also that many of the things our parents did are great and in the end there's a lot of right ways to do this. I think we always want to move away from our parents. My guest tonight is an award-winning singer, composer, an instrumentalist whose new album is called You're The One. Please welcome Riannan Giddens. Thank you for coming out. Thank you for being here.

All right. Are they great? They're great. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. Thank you for chatting with us. You are a MacArthur Genius Award winner, Grammy winner, Pullet Surprise winner, you studied opera in college, but this is what really got me. You write all your music with the banjo? I write a lot of

my music with the banjo and voice and fiddle and whatever instrument I have around, yeah. When I think of the banjo and correct me on this, but when I think of the banjo, I know you will, I picture that scene in deliverance and it's down in the south and it's scary and it's, is that an accurate depiction of the banjo? No, and that's part of the problem is that media has really warped our idea of how American music came to be. The banjo is an African-a-a-in- invented by people of the African-Diaspora and the Caribbean. And African-American people are co-creators of old time and what became bluegrass music and country music. And it's only in the 19, yes, thank you. Yeah. But it's, you know, it's really in the 19, early 1900s and 20s when media and how we segregated American music

into these different buckets in order to sell it, it just changed our perception and we've lost a lot of our history and so that's been a drive of mine for a really long time is to change that. Can I be ignorant for a second? If you like? I know they look different, but what what's the what is the difference? I mean how long? How long do you have? Yeah. Well they come they come from different I mean look to break it down the banjo really is it is descended from a lot of different West African lute instruments and there's a percussive mode

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Please welcome Jordan Jonas. All right. All right. All right. Huh? So, thanks for coming to New York City. Yeah, what an honor. Thanks for the invite.

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How can those two be connected? Yeah, that's actually a really fascinating question. I think we are, no matter what we think, we're a part of nature. And in my experience, people who hunt, who rely on nature to feed themselves or families, there's almost, there's few people that are more in tune............ and, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.a.a.a.a. th.a.a. th.a. th. th. th.a. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. There's almost, there's few people that are more in tune with the health of a particular ecosystem because you rely on it. So though you do take individual animals at times,

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the the knee jerk the knee jerk yeah you see these pictures in it you know but I think one thing that really was beneficial for me I am not a hunter the the I'm the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the in it, you know, but I think one thing that really was beneficial for me, I'm not a hunter, but I definitely fished and killed a grouse that week because I was s'farving. And you said, we're only going to eat what we can procure for the next 36 hours. Well, guess what? Costa doesn't really procure much. But man, and this is going to be silly to you. And maybe silly to everybody else. But when I took this little Grouse's life, it really meant something. And it was sad to me. Yeah. But we then cleaned it.

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Right. You know, everything has come in a package. That was right. He's the other guy, but yeah. Yeah. But it's, um, yeah. It's, it's, it's important to have that connection with our food. Otherwise, it just all happens on a farm or in a field somewhere and you can act like you're not a part of the system but we are so we should do our job well. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show wherever you get your podcasts.

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