The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Daily Show News Team: Content from Their Couches

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

At SXSW, NPR's Eric Deggans talks to The Daily Show correspondents about comedy post-Trump, tackling pandemic tech challenges and the power of diversity. Originally aired April 2021. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're calling this the Daily Show news team content from their couches. I really don't want to know whether or not they're actually on their couches. We're just going to assume. And we've got an all-star panel here with Desi Lydic, Jordan Clepper, Michael Costa, Dulce Sloan, and Roy Wood Jr. Now Ronnie Ronnie Chang was supposed to be with us, but he's like filming a Marvel movie or doing something way cooler and couldn't join us. So I'm just happy to have the B team here.

Thanks guys for joining us. We really appreciate it. I have a major, major part of Justice League, but nobody saw it. I just wanted to start with it by giving you guys some mess. So disrespectful. We have you guys and thank you so much for joining us. So as we film this, Donald Trump, he's lost re-election, he's on trial in the Senate for impeachment, for insurrection. Can we just say job all done?

Can we just leave now? Is it all over? All done? It's all solved and now we can walk away. That's like clapping right after the hurricane leaves town. There's still cleanup to be done. That's right. Exactly. We got to clean up the crew that's got to come in. But seriously, I guess everybody's trying to figure out, and it seems kind of early

to ask this, but how a comedy is going to change now that have somebody who's saying in the White House. Do you have any sense now in the early days, how things might be different under Biden administration and with Trump out of the White House? There is a misconception that you can't do comedy without Donald Trump as president. Comedy was alive well before him and will be alive well after him. In fact, if anything, we have to mind deeper and harder and it isn't all just low-hanging tweets. That would be my short answer. Yeah, I was just going to say it was almost more challenging in the sense that like, you know, our job is to sort of satirize the news and politics, and it's really hard

to kind of like parody a parody. When you get so absurd, like where do you even go from that? How do you heighten from the craziness? So I'm kind of looking forward to things being a little bit, little more normal, let's hope. Well, I was thought that was kind of insulting when people would say, oh, you know, it just writes itself. No, it doesn't write itself. Not even with Trump, right?

Yeah, I think, I remember the time before Trump hundreds of years ago and I think you would approach stories from a comedic perspective. One, do I care about this? And two, I'm able to do something with this comedic with it? You had to choose, and then Donald Trump comes in. And he chose the news for thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the. the. the. the. thr. the. tr. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. true. thean had to choose. And then Donald Trump comes in and he chose the news for us. And so I look back to getting back to a little bit of a position of deciding what it is

we want to actually weigh in on and what it is we actually have something to say about. I think that's actually really freeing and exciting for a comedian because there are only so many Donald Trump jokes you can make. It's in the millions, but we but there's only so it's a finite resource. Now Eric, Eric, I just for a second I hate to interject here, Eric, I want you to remember that you're getting that information from one of the correspondence who has always been face-to-face with the Trump supporters pretty much since his terms if I'm not mistaken and it just sounds like the voice of a man that's scared and tired of being out there and you know, the mega-fists. But, you know, yeah, to be clear, if you want to know what it's going to be like after Donald Trump, I literally was at an insurrection traveling

around with four bodyguards. So I'm hoping comedy in the era beyond Donald Trump, less body guards. I mean, I love it. Don't make make me the the the to be the to to make to make the to make me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me the to make me to make me to make me to make me the to make me the to make me to make me to make me to make me the the to be the to be the to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to me. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah love a rubber chicken gag. That would like I'm freaking, I'd freaking love it. Just don't make me debate with Q&N supporters about the end of the world. That's that's all masking. Yeah I was hoping you would get hazard bait dude. I don't know. I mean, I'm just I'm just hoping that's health insurance thing Democrats push for, they've been tel me. that the. the their the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their toeat. their toeat. their their their their their their their their their their their toe. their their their their to beaq. to bea. to bea. to bea. to be to be to be to be to be their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tean. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. the mail. They've been telling me that for years. So I'm sure, I'm sure they will really take care of. I'm just hoping that's health insurance thing Democrats push for really pays off in the Biden administration. You call Viacom for the check, they say it's over at CBS. They say it's over at Viet. If they're not doing that now, rest assured they're going to do it after they say this. So I know it's early days again, but do you have any sense about how comedy might be different?

In the post-Trump era, has he changed us in a way that even though he's not setting the news agenda, the way we talk about this stuff is going to be different? I think people want us to think that things are going to be to be to be to be their their their their their the news agenda, the way we talk about this stuff is going to be different. I think people want us to think that things are going to be different, but the formula of comedy hasn't changed. The structure of comedy hasn't changed to the point where things are going to become brand new. Right. So, you know, now it's, we're just going to be making jokes about another old white man who's the president. Except this one's not trying to kill everybody. So I think the only big difference is going to be.

It's that Trump was a reality, you know, name, reality star. Because like in the grand scheme of things, we shouldn't have even known who he was. He sold real estate and had businesses. There's plenty of people to do that in New York and no, and their name isn't on th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thing thing thing thrying thing thrying thing thing thrying thin trying trying trying trying trying trying trying trying trying to to to to trying to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to try to to try. try. try. try. try. try try try try try try try try try try try try try try try to to to to t had businesses. There's plenty of people to do that in New York and no, and their name isn't on buildings. We don't know nothing about him. He wanted to shine. He wanted to get on. He wanted everybody to know who he was. And now you're down as the only president who's been impeached twice. So congratulations. But when it comes to comedy, the structure of comedy, the bones of comedy, it hasn't hasn hasn hasn hasn hasn hasn hasn hasn's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's th. It's just. It's just. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he's, he. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the to to to to to to to to to to to to to thee the. the. the. the. the, the structure of comedy, the bones of comedy hasn't changed. It's just now we don't have to talk about this man who was taking up so much bandwidth because that's what he wanted. Now it's, you know, like Desi was saying he was a parody of a parody and now it gives us the

opportunity to really just do the parody because then, because everything was before we had to reverse engineer what he was doing because like well this is outrageous how do we make this look normal to then make it funny now it's oh this is regular let's make it funny so if anything we don't have to deal with this nonsense anymore. I do think there's like a conversation that I know I'm having with producers in the field and other writers and other correspondence is like, in this period of time, we do talk a lot more now about how much

publicity we might want to give something. That there is, even though we're here to tell jokes and we're here to shine a spotlight on issues, like, is there a responsibility in talking a lot about Q& on or talking about, like, should we be giving certain subjects PR? Is there a balance? Is there like a way to do that in a funny way without necessarily like heightening the movement or the momentum of something like that? You know, those are, and I don't, I don't have an answer for it, but there's certainly conversations that we're having in this new era now now now now now now now now now now. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. And th. And th. And th. And to, to, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, and to, and to, and to, and thi. And thi. And, and thi. And thi. And thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi, thi, thi, thi. And, thi. And, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the to. And, the to. And, they. And, thi. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, the. And, those are, and I don't, I don't have an answer for it, but there's certainly conversations that we're having in this new era now. And that's interesting to me because like that's a conversation you'd expect to have, like, like, at a news outlet.

That's a conversation you would expect like CNN or NBR to be having, like, I always thought, your guy's job was just to tell jokes, but it's interesting that you you you you you you you you you you you you you you, that you, that you, that you, that you, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, but it's interesting that you that you take on that responsibility and worry about giving Q& on or giving Trump because that's what that's what everybody's asking us journalists. Can you ignore Trump now that he's out of the White House? I think we start with what we care about and it's very hard to shoot down a pitch even though it happens every day, if the correspondent or the producers are passionate about it. So there are always jokes to be found. I mean, maybe not every piece you can find jokes.

It's too serious or too sad. It's kind of like what Clepper was saying, now that Trump is gone, it is kind of nice because we can pitch a little bit more about what we care about as opposed to just reacting to the the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the the the the the producer the the producer the the producer the the producer the producer the producer the producer the the producer the producer the producer the producer the producer the producer the the producer the producers the producers the producer the producer the producer the producers the producers their the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producers the producer the producer the producer the producer the the the the producer the the the the producer the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head the head line.e.e.e.e.. the the the the the the thea thea thea. the threatea the the bit more about what we care about as opposed to just reacting to the headline or the tweet. Yes. I also think, I mean let's not kid ourselves, Trump is gone, Trumpism is here. Like even today, the news today is people arguing about how an insurrection didn't matter and you can't hold him accountable. In fact, the Senate is not going to hold him accountable. And they just gave half an entire party gave a pass to a Q&on spewing lunatic in the house who says there's space laser starting wildfires.

Like that's happening today. So just because Donald Trump's gone, that's, that's out there. We talk about, you know, following going out on the road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road road to tro to's that's out there. We talk about you know following going out on the road and talking to other folks and you might not be talking to trump supporters you're now talking to future house candidates and other people that have now been infected by this been given this misinformation and are now attempting to be a part of the culture in a different way and so there might be less of a focus on Donald Trump, but that doesn't mean the militias aren't going anywhere. It doesn't mean the power of places like the oathkeepers

isn't going to pop up and affect folks. It doesn't mean Josh Howley is any more of a piece of shit. And I think because of that, comedy will rise. The show changed a lot, obviously, when the lockdowns happened and everyone had to work from home. We could see on the screen what that was like for Trevor. But what was it like for you guys when the show, when we have the lockdowns, everybody had to work from home

and you had to figure out how to make things happen in a different way? I think the main thing was the tech aspect of it, because it was, all right, we're gonna see you these lights we're to see these phones and da da da da da da because like da da da da da da da because like da da da da da da da da because they sent us iPhones to film on because it's the easiest of maneuver right but desi somehow connected her personal iPhone little work phone and then somehow Costa connected his phone to some work account so then does so he was getting like pictures of Desi's son and now Costa know when

Desi's parents anniversary is. Yeah it's this whole work-life balance there are no boundaries anymore. I think beyond the tech Eric was figuring out the performance within this box and how, as a correspondent, we have certain comedic tools and you start, you understand how much being in the room with this person helps to create some of the tension or some of the awkwardness and you lose that on Zoom. So it was figuring out ways, literally in how to work, how do you go through this conversation in a way that's still funny and tracks when all you're seeing is this and you start figuring out ways to kind of walk out of frame and I

don't give away all the tricks. But we over time started learning that and then you know we was like well you know what if I could do that. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. the. th. th. th. the the th. th. the the th. the th. th. the the the the the the the the. the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. t. know, we was like, well, you know what, if I could do that, then maybe I could put up a green screen. Can you put, hey, sit everybody green screens. And then Djibouki is giving us references on microphones and condensers and sound dampeners. So it's definitely been building the plane in the air, but you know, thankfully everybody started out at the air, but you know, thankfully everybody started out at the same place. In a nutshell, it took a global pandemic to get actors to actually appreciate the tech. I will say I have never had more respect for our crew and how many people it takes to put together a TV show. I mean, it is, it's so hard. That's so funny because now that I'm doing it, I've never had less respect for us.

So when Michael drops out a frame, just know that somebody unblown something because they got upset. There are huge hurdles technically. There's also huge hurdles emotionally. I mean, we are in our homes. I don't want to show everybody my bedroom. I don't want to show people where I eat dinner with my family.

Well, especially after that bit that Dulce did, which is looking at everybody's backgrounds. Man, I'm afraid for you to even see. I mean, obviously you read back and variously see a book that says race baiter. That's my book, by the way. I'm sure I knew that it was available in stores everywhere. I don't know, you know, I zoom with my friends back home and in Michigan and their background is a pool or a tree in LA. They got like avocados behind. I mean, this is New York.

Like, we're all in tiny apartments with families and it's brutal. You want a tiny apartment, I live in Queens. Yeah. Who's saying I live together in Queens. So. But your wife is out, unless I'm a sister, you ain't in Queens. So, but your wife is out unless I'm a sister-in-law, you ain't in here. That sounds like an 86. It is.

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So that's been the main thing. It's because I would always I always talk to crew because I always want to know what's like I'm like, what's this? What's this? Do you hold this mic? What's the. the. And I'm like, listen, I didn't go to school to the school for this. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the main th. I the main th the main the main th. I always the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the main the the th. I always th. I always th. I always th. I always th. I always th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I the main th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I ta ta talk. I talk. I always talk. I always talk tau. I always tau. I always talked tax. I always talked tax I always talked tax I always talked tax I always tax I always tax I didn't sign up for that. I'm talent. I'm supposed walking and you might me and then I sit. And that's what she came for. That's what she was born to do. All this other stuff is been, it's been a lot. I mean, I was glad to learn it. Um, because I know all. Other than that? It is, it's a, it's a full-on family affair. My husband is like often holding

the camera. I'm like prying the scooter from my five-year-old's hands so that I can set up a dolly shot. Like we are, it is all hands-on-deck at all times. So it's, yeah, we're definitely learning all angles of it. And after the lockdown happened, you guys were forced to work from home, they typed an extra 15 minutes on the show. So like, was that, did you welcome that? Did you welcome that? Because maybe you might get more bits on, or did that make it even tougher because you've got more time to fill now? It's not, one, it's not toufer that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that, one, it's not tougher because a lot of that 15 minutes goes to Trevor being

able to go deeper into being Trevor and exploring the conversations with the guests. And you can tell, you can just watch the interviews in the 30s versus the 45s and Trevor is really pursuing his curiosities with the guest. The thing is that as we got better at this, the time, and I I I I I I I I I I I I I th. And I th. And I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. th. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's that that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the th. the the the the the th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. got better at this, the time, and I know Costa can vouch for me on this, where the time, the turnaround time from idea to conception to edit, from conception to air got shorter and shorter and shorter. It would be on Monday, can you shoot this Thursday? What type of equipment do you have? And somewhere around November, December, it was, yeah, we're going to shoot this tomorrow. Now, you might get a, you might be emailed a script

at 10 in the morning that shoots at one that's on the show that night. And figure it out. I know your babysitter is hiding in Canada till they can get the vaccine. So you've got to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri to bri b to bribe your to bribe your to bribe your to bribe your to bribe your their their their their their their their their their this. this. this. this. this. this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this their this their this. their this. their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. t. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. th. th. th. th. th. till they can get the vaccine. So you've got to bribe your child and, you know, Costa and Clepper in a different situation because they have infants that don't understand English yet. So I'd say with the 45, the show is now reverting creatively back to what it was when it was in studio, where we could be a little bit more reactive to news in the immediate. But because we have the tech figured out, we know to to to to to to do to do their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and their, and their, and their, and, and, and their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, the, the, the, the, the, they.... And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. And, they. I. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. the immediate. But because we have the tech figured out, we know how to do everything now. So now it's tougher in a sense that things can spring up on you and

you're still juggling your regular life while that stuff is happening. Wow, that's pretty amazing. Look, as as one of many correspondents, I think we all welcome the idea that there'd be more show and more opportunity for our pieces to be a little to to to to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be a little to be all welcome the idea that there'd be more show and more opportunity for our pieces to be a little bit longer. Prior to 45 minutes, there was a 30 minutes show, but there was a lot of stuff that landed on the cutting room floor. So we can extend some of that stuff now. People are all at home trying to watch content.

So 45 minutes is good if they consume more of the daily show. And Roy's Roy, as we got better, I mean, nothing phases this show. And I don't say that as I'm part of that. When they said that this show was gonna go on despite the pandemic, I thought everybody was insane. I thought the executive producers had lost their mind. How can we possibly do that? I don't even know if I have Skype. You know, it all seems impossible.

And yet, they took two days off, three days off of air, and we were the first ones out airing, broadcasting the show immediately. And that's a testament to the staff, the leaders, and also Trevor, who's like, why are we stopping? Let's keep going. And I was reluctant at first, and then seeing how they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and the, and took took took took the, and the, and the, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the an the an thean, thean, thean, took, took took took took took took took t keep going. And I was reluctant at first and then seeing how they did it and nothing phases them, they just kept going.

There's not enough credit given to the folks who are constantly creating around the daily show. Like the correspondence, the writers, obviously Trevor, like Trevor, give him space and he fills it with his curiosity and his intellect. And so I think that is such a sweet spot. We have a digital team that is constantly creating things 24-7, pulling things together, old clips, making new ideas, pulling things from the show,

a field department that has had to figure out how to make stuff work in somebody's apartment, but also how to reinvent so that doesn't get boring with green screens to see what like constantly working with CDC requirements to see where we can shoot, how to travel to those places, how to like even a few field shoots were able to do. I did do a field shoot that I could only talk to humans if there was a body of water between us. And so I literally interviewed people between boats. And I do think like that is the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit the spirit. the spirit. the spirit. tod. today. I today. I today. I tod. C. C. C. I te. C. C. I'm tea. I'm c. I'm c. I'm c. I'm c. I'm te, te. I's. I's. I's. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm, te. I'm te. I'm te. I'm te. C. C. C. C. C. C. C. te. te. te. C. te. C. C. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. interviewed people between boats. And I do think like that is the spirit of this show, is we're going to make TV tonight out of whatever happens today, get the smartest people you can. They're all going to wear a bunch of hats.

It's you're not just somebody who does one thing on the daily show. You do a bunch of things. And so I do think that's that's is is is is that's is part that's is part that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's thatthink that's part of the reason the show has thrived during this, because it's asked of everybody, like, wear a bunch of hats, be as creative as you can and work fast. And luckily, that's been the job since day one. Well, Jordan, I wanted to ask you in particular. I mean, you've crafted the space where you're going out to some of the people who are still out there. Is this Comedy Central's way of getting rid of you? To send you out in a pandemic to talk with you.

You know, they can't get rid of me. They've tried to cancel me, you know. Usually, their website has made it really easy to attempt to erase me. But luckily, I am here to stay, baby. Send me out in the middle, middle of COVID to a bunch of trumpets. And I will come back with some content. I tell you that much. I mean, I love seeing you sort of interact with these people.

But is there a danger in sort of having too many pieces where, you know, the focus of it is, look at how crazy these people are, because that, I just, I can't believe how crazy these people are. It's wild to see the way folks react. But to be honest, like, that is, that, I think if people are shocked at what happened on January 6th, we've been chronicling that since day one. thi. I do think like what I am proudest of is like we go there. No offense to any other late night shows, but they weren't at the capital when it was being attacked by insurrectionists. And talking to folks who I'd seen at other rallies, talking about the same BS that they

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are like crafting this narrative. And so I love finding the comedy in that. I love going to places and seeing what people actually think, actually being there. But at some point I do feel like it's important for people to see that it's not just one crazy guy in the Oval Office. This point of view spreads, it's out there, and it's become ideology, and it's become identity, and it's become an American identity that sometimes we have to grapple with. And we're not just gonna grapple with it through one election. So I'm gonna ask a question that may be controversial, but I want to know who sucks up to Trevor the most,

amongst all of you? And does that really get more of your pieces on the air, Desi? Ha ha ha ha ha. My me? Who me? I just have to say, I think what Trevor is doing during this moment in time is just unbelievable. No one can start a conversation like Trevor Noah. I have never thi. I have never thi thi, I have never. I th. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and that thi, and does th th th th that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that, and does that that that that that that that that that moment in time is just unbelievable. No one can start a conversation like Trevor Noah. I have never seen talent or intellect like that ever before in my life. And I am looking for a raise right about now. No, seriously, I did what I ask you though. I love the pieces that you do that you've done about Fox News, both the Fox Blaining and, you know,

talking to your Aunt Janine Piro. And it seems like Fox News is kind of an interesting, it's at an interesting point now. It's at a kind of a, it's having a crisis of identity. It's got two major competitors for the first time. What's your sense your sense your sense your sense th you's your sense thier sense thi sense thi se your sense thi se your thi se thi se thi se thi thi thi thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. thi. thi. thi, I's th. th. thi, I's, I's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I th. th. th. th. th. th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, th. I, I, th. I, I, th. I, I, th. I th. I, I th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. I, I two major competitors for the first time. What's your sense about where that is going and what kind of comedy do you think you maybe can mind from that? I don't, I'm very curious to see what they do from here on out, how Fox shifts its narrative. I think in a way they might get crazier because they've got to compete.

So I don't, I mean, I don't think Fox News is going anywhere in terms of like, you know, the, the, that's spinning the crazy narratives and, and yeah, I know that they've got some, some competition lurking, but, you know, my conservative family members don't know how to find those channels, but they do know how to find Fox News. So I think there's still a base there. I don't know. I mean, I'm very interested in all of that and seeing how it plays out. You know what it feels like, it feels like when MTV expanded to MTV.

And so like, it's like MTV is where like the older Gen X's went and TV was the wilder crazy like ESPN to like any like that's what OAN that's what those networks feel like they feel like the whoa that's really extreme and I just think that that's probably you know to clip us to clippers point about Trumpism he's created competition for Fox News. Like, that's unheard of. Adulsa, I wanted to ask you, I mean, once again, we're in this moment where black women have saved us from Oblivion.

And, you know, have we shown the appropriate thanks to Stacey Abrams and Camela Harris and AOC for pulling us back from the brink of oblivion the way they have. No. And you never will. You never can. That's true. No.

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Saylor. That's what you need to do. Thank you. And for Sandra Blan, that's what needs to happen. Stop putting us in these situations. Quit making us save y'all. It's like, I don't want to to be superman. It's like I don't want to to to to to be like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, I to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to to to to to to to to to to to their their to to to to to to their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their s s s s s s s s s s s s sa, their sa, their sa, their sa, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, tha, thin, tha.sa, tha, tha'a'a'a'a'a'a'a, thi. Sa, thi, getting tied to the side of a building, okay, mess up with these super villains, quit being in danger and I don't have to help you dumbed up. Like it's, and it's a weird place where it's just like, we know black women saved us again. It's just like we didn't do it for you. We saved ourselves. You, you were, you got the collateral benefit. I didn't wake up being like, oh, how can I make sure that everybody else is more okay than me once again? That's insane. We didn't do that. We stopped the child molester for being an office of Alabama because he was a monster. That's what we did. We're going to get

people out to vote. We've been doing all of these things the whole time. We're just finally not getting recognition for it. But I'm not waking up up up up up up up up up up up. I to to wake to wake to wake to wake to wake to wake to wake to to to to to to to to to to to the to their to their to to to their to to their to their to to their their to their their their their their to get to their to get their to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to get to to to to their their their their. their their. their. their. their. the. thoe. thooooooo. thooooooo. their their their thoooooooo. the. the. the. the. the. to. the whole time were just finally not getting recognition for it. But not waking up, I didn't wake up and put hair and makeup on the hope that Costa did well in this interview. I don't care. Dang, a broadside to Costa from night nowhere. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change.

Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. We were joking about this earlier, but you guys are the most diverse late night show. And um... Never forget that Michael Costa does have an NDACP nomination. I'm serious. He does? He does.

I'm not sarcastic. He was the first person to hang his up. He was like, don't say, look we got. I was like, what did we get? He's like, ah! And he was so happy to show me. As a young junior tennis champion, I never thought I would be nominated by the N-Double A-C-P and I am.

But look at every late night show. It's all the same point of view. That is genuinely what is so unique about us. Any story, you close your eyes and you point to a newspaper and you get an article, we got somebody who can cover it. That's amazing. Well, that's what I wanted to ask is if you could talk a little bit about how you guys talk about issues differently Because you have so much diversity and and and because you're led by somebody like Trevor who also Has experienced a lot and has talked a lot about his his cultural diversity

It kind of funnels down to who we think would have the best voice for it because when there's women's pieces there's me and Desi when there's you know pieces, there's me and Desi. When there's, you know, black pieces, there's me and Roy. When we have to yell at the Conservatives of America, there's, uh, you know, Desi Cost and Clepper. But I think what we have done is that when there's a story, it's not always, here's the black story, Roy Dolce, Djibuki, go. Sometimes it's what's the best way to tell it from a comedic angle? Who's the best person to tell it from a comedic angle? Because a lot of time, because sometimes we'll have stories and, you know, it'll get pitched with one correspondent and when we look at it, it's, oh, you know, we should change the correspondent on that. It should be, you know, Desi instead of Roy

who does this, who does this interview. Because sometimes it's not always, the obvious choice isn't always the funniest choice. Right. And you know, Trevor, when I first got there, you know, Trevor was telling us when it comes to ideas for pitches, it was, he said, look at the obvious thing, now look at the exact opposite side of it, or the side that you don't agree with.

And a lot of times that opposite side, you can find more comedy in that, and then you can find with, oh, there's people doing it, then whoever, that's gonna be a perfect fit. So I think what we do is as much as we are diverse, we're telling, I think it's we're telling diverse stories and we're able to tell diverse stories because we have a diverse group of people, but we're still thinking about who's the best person to tell this story. And I think also, not just from a comedic standpoint, but also from the people that were interviewing.

Who are they going to be most comfortable with? Because if you're going to be more open with the particular correspondent, then that's more places to mind comedy. You know, Dulce just did a segment last month on the AKAs and their relationship with Kamala and black, Greek, ain't nobody else more qualified to talk to black women about a black woman's rorti band black woman, you know, and if Dosey's busy, I, maybe be a Djibouki. Or we do it with Desi and you flip it to that same, to that opposite that Trevor was talking about. But, you know, I just think we also are in a time where

people are becoming a little more people, viewers are becoming more conscious about who is telling their story and who is attempting to champion their voice. So I think that's something that it's, it's part of figuring out who goes out the door and I'm not going to I think that's something that it's part of figuring out who goes out the door. And I'm not going to say that that's the most important, prevalent part, but it's in the back of your head as well. Because if you have Djibouki sitting right there, there's no reason why I should be touching the LGBTQ story,

unless there's what the diversity really gives us a leg up on. We can send anybody and anybody can be comfortable talking to us as well. That's why we sent Clepper to the rallies to talk to all the white men. And not me. Michael, I did what I asked you, you know, you sort of inherited. Finally. Exactly. You sort of inherited the goofy white guy slot that we saw get handed down from like Colbert to Helms to Rob Wrigle.

Jordan even had it for a little while. I think I'm coming back for it. I can't let go. I need it. I need it. Give me goofy white guy. If goofy white guy helps you get the career of those four people you just mentioned, I'm fine with that.

But I don't know if it's a guarantee. But I think it's great that the show has kind of created a space where you can sort of talk about white cluelessness in a way. And it seems like you have you have done that you've done that you've done that you've done that you've done that, Jordan's done that. Can you talk a little bit about finding that space on a show where again, you know, we talked about this kind of the diversity and how you guys pride yourself and be able to address a bunch of different subjects? Well I think it works because I probably don't think I am that clueless, you know, so it's a little bit like, oh, I can't be this clueless, you know? So it's a little bit like, oh, I can't be this clueless,

but then as I read some of the words, I'm like, I did think that once or less. Yeah, so I, look, there's a lot about the white male stereotype that I fit, but also I would love, that I would love to make fun of. And I am sure everybody, in reference to their their their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th would love that I would love to make fun of. And I am sure everybody, in reference to their gender, their sexual orientation, and their race, there are parts of those things that they also think deserve to be ridiculed.

So for me to wear a full Windsor nodded tie and talk about how rich white kids should get preferential treatment when applying to college. That is funny. And by talking about that in a serious tone through my character, it 100% points out that it's ridiculous. And it's fun. You know, I think it's fun. Do sometimes people show up to my stand-up shows on the road and go, hey, that's not the guy we saw on the daily show. Why can't you do that skit? And I go, well, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you that, that, that, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiiiii. thiii. thii. thi. thi. thi, that's not the guy we saw on the daily show. Why can't you do that skit? And I go, well, you know, that isn't actually me. Sometimes that happens, but I get to tell jokes to a camera prior to pandemic, with Emmy award-winning performers, writers, producers.

It is like comedy PhD school. So if I get to play the guy that gets kicked in the nuts six. ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti ti, ti, th. We, ti, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I'm, thi. I'm, thi, th. tho, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th th th th th th th to thin. And, to to toge. And, th th th thin. And, th th the thin. And, that's, the. And, th to play the guy that gets kicked in the nuts six times in a row in one sketch, I'm okay with that because they don't always put me in that role and you know I also get to pitch things about why I think the Great Lakes are important and they are kind enough to send me to Toledo, Ohio and do a whole piece about how Lake Erie should have a bill of rights and actually have the same same the same the same the the the the the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the. the. I the. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to me.. to me. to me. to me. to me. to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be th. I I I. I. I. I. I. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm the. I'm the. I'm thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm thea. I'm thea. as a person and and has become a person legally. So I get to do some serious stuff and I also get to do the oh my god I just threw up in my mouth and swallowed it again piece which is fine. Well and I was interested in that idea of finding your voice as a correspondent. What was that process like?

and is there ever a point when you sort of feel like you're there? Like you kind of know what your voice is on the show? I used to be really angry early on. And I wonder if that was just remnants of my stand-up comedy, seeping into my role as a correspondent. But like even my first piece, I was angry about them saying we're going to Mars. Like, why are you angry about that? Right. With the premise being you're not going to let anybody go to Mars because people can't

get apartments on Earth, so you can't quite, but it was just, ah, da, da, yeah. And when you look at the way Trevor restructured the Daily Show tonally, after John, there is a place th. th. th. th. th. thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. We are, th. We are, th. We are, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thr. thr. thri, thri, thri. throoooooooo. thr. thr. throoooo. thr. thr. thr. thr. Why, the Trevor restructured the Daily Show tonally after John, there is a place for anger, but anger has to have a purpose. And so it took me, I'd say about a year or two, to not let anger be the driving emotion through a piece. And you could find the things that are incredulous. You can find the stuff that's outrageous. Everyone is mad about this. So me joining you and being angry isn't always going to be the best way to inform and educate and present, again, like Dose, said, flip it to the other side and show a different way through the topic. And that's where you're able to find a lot of new comedy. And, you know, I think that behind a lot of anger is hurt. So if you can find hurt, you can usually tap into what people are feeling

without matching their level of screaming and yelling. I feel when I joined the show back in the day, pretty under John pretty classic correspondent rule, which like it's irony. I'm this heightened, dumb white guy version. And irony is the number one thing you have in your tool belt. And I think what's been interesting over the last five-ish years, one like Trevor came in as did Donald Trump, as did like a seismic change in a bunch of stuff, and like over the course of, Trevor had more interest in bringing your own personality to to that thing so like a straight irony wasn't playing as much partially because that felt a little

bit dated partially because Donald Trump was hyperbole in and of itself so it was hard to out Trump and and you felt that skill set and the correspondent sort of shift and you know I went away and I played a high concept character at one point and then also did shows as myself. And I feel like even now, like coming back and doing stuff on the show, like you still play with irony, you still play with being the dumb white guy and that character that is there. But I think because Donald Trump has stripped people away of their BS.

And now you are just versions of yourself in some way. And so I think that's, part of that is what's really fun to play too. It's like, I see myself going to rallies now and it's, it's not that I'm some dummy talking ironically, I can use that tool here and there. But more often than now what people respond to is like, they see yourself within that's kind of where comedy is right now is we want to see authenticity even if you are using other comedic tools. You have to be able to show them what your point of view is underneath and not just live so far away from what the point of view that person who's experienced it might be. That makes sense. And Jordan, I got to say man, I have all the respect for you because I love that interview you did with Adam Schiff or where you got him to say bat shit on camera like that like that was you know

a lot a lot of season journalists have tried to get powerful people to swear but what you do is if you stand out in the cold and you really go at somebody for long enough with stupid questions you will get them to swear and then you will put that on Comedy Central. And you will earn your health insurance for a week so that's I hope so. Yellow cross is that a thing they set me something for Yellow Cross. I'm hoping that's a thing. Is it yeah yeah we'll get back to you on that so but I did I did want to ask you guys to to tho and thi thi th. and th. and th. and th. and th. and th. and th. And th. And thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. back to you on that. So, but I did, I did want to ask you guys to, and this is something that we talked about before we started, you've been doing this for a while now without an audience.

And I wonder, do you see things eventually getting back to the point where you get to have a studio audience? And are there things that you've learned from this pandemic experience that maybe you think you could retain you could keep doing even if you get back to the point where you're in a studio and you're performing for a crowd again. I do think you know we will eventually get back to the point where we can be with our audience and be back in the studio. We have no idea when that's going to be obviously but one interesting thing that's happened in the studio. We have no idea when that's going to be, obviously. But one interesting thing

that's happened in this period of time is I think the show overall has been able to take more risks with certain jokes. You can go a little bit darker. You can go at something with a different pace. You can take chances that you might not be able to otherwise in front of the audience because you don't know how they're going to react. Or you might to thtime something in such a way that you know that the audience is going to have this reaction. And I think like creatively, I know the writers have had a lot of fun with that. I think Trevor's having a lot of fun with that. It this version of the show tonally is different and it's kind of a cool, creative exploration in a way. And I think some of those risks might kind of continue throughout, even when we do go back into the studio,

we might be able to still kind of play around with that. Y'all aren't scared of like your timing being off when you get back in studio, because like, when we first started, instinctively, I'm like pausing for a laugh or I'm like oh wait we're not performing a conversation I'm just having a conversation with Trevor so stylistically not now for like we're at a year now at this point of no audience and like my fears at the moment we go back with an audience I'm just going to start talking to Trevor again and the crowd is laughing I'm just like shut up and we're talking we're talking we we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're we're th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thing. thing. thing thing th. th. th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh th. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. the th. th. the th. th. th. th. the thi the to to thi to thi. to the the the the the to to the I'm just going to start talking to Trevor again,

and the crowd is laughing. I'm just like, shut up, we're talking. And like, that's my biggest fear. It's like how this will alter us as a performer. I got to get back out on stage and do stand-up at some point. I mean, I was pretty used to performing jokes and not having a lotterterterterterterterterterteruuuuan, thua, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thus, thus, thus, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thus, I thus, I was thus, I was thi, I was pretty, I was pretty, thus, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thus, thus, th, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th, th. th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th, th, th, th. th, thi, thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that, that, that, that, that, thi, that, thi, thi. So for me, this felt very comfortable. You know how Olympic swimmers will train in like four bathing suits and then when the Olympic meat comes up, they just wear one bathing suit so they feel faster?

I feel like this is our four bathing suit wearing time. You know, we're like performing comedy for nobody. And even though there is somebody, and we're thankful that there's people watching but there's no immediate feedback. And if there is immediate feedback and if one of your takes was so hilarious, all you hear is a delayed zoom response from the producer that says, okay, let's do that again. So I'm looking forward to the audience coming back in 2039 and it's going to kick butt man. Well, you know, it's it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, it's weird, there's weird, there's weird, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's the their the.e. Wea. theee.e.e. thee.e. the. We're no there's no the. Wea. It's no there's no there's no there's no there's no there'sto the audience coming back in 2039 and it's going to kick butt, man. Well, you know, it's weird.

So as a viewer, I thought I saw on the show a different way of cutting segments, like a faster sort of editing technique to make up for the fact that you didn't have people laughing and reacting anymore. I was wondering, was that something, did that happen? Did you have a sense that maybe even the editing style of the show changed a little bit to get to the jokes quicker because you didn't have an audience? It definitely felt like, especially with Trevor, like I noticed their progression changed successfully, you know, and I think you're right to pick up on that error. I don't know if it was a decision. It was it was it was it was it was a that it was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a decision. It was a that. It was a that. It was a that. It was a that. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was a that. It was something, that. Did. Did. Did that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that. Did that. that. Did that that that. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that was that was that was that was that was a th. It was a that was a that was a th. It was a that was a th. It was a that th. It was something. It was something. It was something. It was, that's that's that's something, that's that's something. It was, that's their progression changed successfully, you know, and I think you're right to pick up on that, Eric. I don't know if it was a decision, but look, the Daily Show does not stop creating comedy.

And it is evolving and progressing and adjusting and moving every single day. And that's what they do well, and I'll let the others answer. When I say and I didn't know, I didn't know if it was a flat out decision made.. Because, because, because, that, that, that, that, that, that, to to to to to to to to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick up to pick to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up to pick up, the the that ea, the the the that the the to upe up.e up.e up.e up.e up.e up. to to the to the the well. And I'll let the others answer. When I say and I didn't know, I don't know if it was a flat out decision made, because like, I don't even know where the editors are right now, because no one's in the studios, I don't know where these cats are at. But I can't say that for me, I don't know if a decision was made, but I can't say that it does it does that it does that it does that it does that does that does that does that does that does that does that does that's kind of been the way we interview is different

because it's talking through a screen as opposed to being in person but watching Trevor I see because I've done you know doing the show for this long and you know being a comedian you still feel where the laughs are so even you're not even though I don't audibly hear an audience and he's not like pausing, it's, I can feel as a comic. And you know, watching the show and it's like, oh, there's the laugh, there's a laugh. Because sometimes I laugh in between, but you can still feel the jokes and you can still feel what's hitting. And it still feels like it's hitting the same. Because like for us we watch, we're, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, the the th, th, th, th, the th, th, th, the the, thi, thi, the, I the, I can, I can, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I the, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I th, I can, I can, I can, I can't, I can't, th, th. thin, thin, thin, thin, thi, thin, thi, I can't, thin, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I it still feels like it's hitting the same. Because like for us, we watch,

like, when we're in the studio, we watch rehearsal. So a lot of times, we would only, if we heard laughs, it'd be just a few of the crew guys anyway. So I think sometimes when I watch the show, I always treat it like I'm watching rehearsal. And it's like I could feel where the laugh, I the laugh, I the laugh, I the laugh, I the the the the the the thine, I thine, I th and I thin, I thi, I thin, I thi, I thin, I that, I that, I that, I thee, I thee, like, like, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, we're, we're, we're, we're, we th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, to that, to to to that, to to to to to to to to to to to threat. thro, to throoo, that, thrown where the laugh is. Honestly, so it just goes to go, oh, there's no audience. So I don't have that thought anymore. It was, oh, just watching rehearsal. It's like watching rehearsal.

Yes, he's in his house and a hoodie, but that's fine. It's fine. So that's how I kind of treat it. It's just, yeah. really evident with Trevor specifically is that there's a lot more camera turns and there's a lot more graphic overlays and it sounds crazy to say but it's easy to add that type of stuff in this setup than it is in a studio setup and turn like something like when they had the like the cat lawyer joke or like Trevor had blues clues on his face like it was

just as simple as just adding a filter and post and so those types of things it's just again you're doing comedy in a box so anything you can add if it's a camera turn I love the fact that we still take shots at Spirit Airlines like those things somehow still remain in the show but I don't think that those things inherently yeah I don't think that creatively the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi thi thi the thi thi. thi. the thi. thi. the thi. the thi in the show. But I don't think that those things inherently, yeah, I don't think that creatively these are comedic vehicles that we would have explored right away in studio because in studio you have so much more higher tech stuff available.

It would have been a full conversation about a blues clues, graphic build out and comedy sketch. And like, no, just, I'm gonna turn this way you're gonna put a blues clues dog on my face just like the Snapchat tick-tock filters everybody gets it because we're all living in the same world from a technical standpoint so certain jokes that would be considered simple in the pre-Covic times are on par with the way everyone consumes information now.

I think the audience adds so much energy to the show also in the past, like being able to do it in front of a live audience. There's energy to that. There's momentum to that. So now we're sort of trying to get creative with infusing energy and pace and momentum into the show that we're not getting from the audience. So luckily we have really skilled editors who can quicken the pace,

you can do camera turns and take creative liberties to kind of make up for that. So it seems like we're getting close to the end of our time here. And I wanted to ask you guys, maybe a couple of you, if it comes to mind, what's your favorite bit that you've come up with during the pandemic sort of lockdown and you've been working from home? And if you think in doing that bit, you learn something that you're going to carry forward

into the work that you're doing in the show in the future. I'll answer first so you guys can come up with something. One of my favorite pieces was this parody of a travel show that I did in my, I did in my, yeah, I did in my apartment. I was reluctant, if you can't tell I'm reluctant a lot, Eric. You were talking about being in a small apartment. After I saw that piece, I was like, you have a great apartment. Like, what do you?

Yeah, and this is just the city house. Yeah. Jordan, you might want to have your people talk to Michael Costa's standpoint. Yeah. Yeah, you have two houses. Do they both have health care? That was literally opening the door of my home to our viewers. And my initial reluctance was met with a lot of positive feedback about the piece. It was really funny.

And also, I was like, hey, old man, Winter over here. Maybe comedy's different now. Maybe you have to show a little bit of your home. Maybe you're going to have to set a tripod in a camera up in your bathroom. I'm definitely definitely, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, and th. And my my my th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the the show a little bit of your home. Maybe you're going to have to set a tripod and a camera up in your bathroom. I'm definitely one that likes to stay in the comfort zone and what I've learned in my three years, four years of the daily show now is they will take me out of the comfort zone and they will do so successfully. I sometimes am reluctant to do it but I like that piece because it showed that we can produce funny comedy with serious comedic handcuffs on right now and they're continuing to do that and I'm really proud of that. I had a similar off of what Costa said. I too felt reluctant about the fact that you know we're shooting

in our house and everything feels so personal and you can see my bedroom in the background and I've got my kid running around and my dog is over in the corner and you know, there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there was there was there was there was there was there was the the the th th th th th th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the background. And I've got my kid running around and my dog is over in the corner. And, you know, there was one piece that I did with, we were interviewing a family doctor right at the beginning of COVID, right at the beginning of the lockdown. And my four-year-old at the time was at home, school, and the husband was on a work call, and my son walked into the room during the interview,

and I had no choice but to just kind of go with it and use it. So it ended up being something that we used in the piece, and we've continued to dip into from time to time. If there's an interruption, it's like, you know what, it's going to happen, let's just go with it. And I ended up hearing from some of my parent friends that were like, oh my God, I love that moment when he came in. My kid does that all the time when I'm on the phone. And it's just like, you know, there's an intimacy and a, um, it feels they, there's something there's there's something there's something there's something there's something there's something there's something there's something there's something that just feels more personal and that never would have happened in the studio. Yeah and I have this feeling that some of that is going to retain that that we're going to see. Yeah I will

definitely I will definitely continue to use my child as a crutch as well. Yeah. I've actually started to use Desi's child as a comedic crutch as well. Yeah. Well you, you go to the professionals, right? Really? At the beginning of quarantine, I tried to cut my son's hair. And it was very terrible. It was very terrible. And he told me it was terrible.

And he's four. And even at four, he knew a terrible haircut when he seen one. And so we ended up kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind kind th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. seen one. And so we ended up kind of taking that life moment and then rolling that into a segment where I just got on the phone with my barber and we did a segment where I just tried to learn how to cut my hair at home. And that was the surface level of it, but then you kind of dig into how much the beauty shop and the black barber shops because

black people and because of the issues of mental health or not having the health care team be able to afford mental health, how important barbers are. And there were a lot of barbers who just get calls from their clients, even though they couldn't come into the shop because they still missed that connection. So that was the one piece that I think I've done at home that I think was the most birth from something that I'm actually going through on a rate. Like to Desi's point about, you know, I heard almost such a child's real name,

but see, I ain't give it away because I don't want them people to know. Thank you, boy. To the point with Desi's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child's child, you know, like it's cool to be able to take these little things that are happening in your life and go, well if it's happening to me it's probably happening to somebody else. And this wasn't some bigger issue that's tackling the thing and the politician and we're going to take you down and pass the referendum.

No, I just don't know how to cut my hair and it the the the thap. and pass the referent, no, I just don't know how to cut my hair and it turns out clients miss the barber too, so let's talk to a bar. I've found when when you go and do field pieces before all this happened it's such a bond between the the producers, the performer, the sound guy, the two camera guys, you're a team and you collectively go and you travel to these places. And now during quarantine, that's all different. And what I've found is the last few pieces I've had to do. I go solo alone in my car, and it is wonderful. It just, me, I put on like Bob Dylan albums,

and my wife will never let me play like 80s Bob Dylan that nobody wants to hear, and I just zone out and it is perfect and when this all gets back to normal I will not travel with anybody I work with and I will I will just be out of the camera man Joel's not trying to have you drink some mushroom coffee oh I miss Joel's got mushroom coffee still understand how that coffee works. Oh. That's why you were joking when you said that. That's a thing.

That's a real thing. Oh my god. But I don't think it's a drunk. But you got to, you got a, alone in a car is so lovely. You got to try it. But it's not drug mushrooms. the mushrooms. He's not even high. He's just drinking fungi.

I mean, he is, but not from the tea. He's not high from the tea. The tea actually brings them down. Actually, I think the tea is what sobers up a little bit. Okay. He would tell me about mushroom coffee and I just note, I would thank the correspondence for the Daily Show for joining us for the special South by Southwest panel, the Daily Show News Team, content from their couches, not their bathrooms, their couches. Many thanks to Desi Liza Jordan Clepper, Michael Costa, Dosey Slum, and Roy Wood Jr.

Guys, I had so much fun I could talk to you for like two hours. Eric, before we wrap. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, to say to say to say to say to to to to to to to to to I had so much fun. I could talk to you for like two hours. Eric, before we wrap real quick, Dose, one to 10, right, Eric's background. He got a lot of plaques, got a lot of degrees, a lot of books back there. Okay, let's see what we got going on here. All right, one, you got a little flexi, because you wanted us to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know to know that you wrote a book. Problem is this book cannot be purchased by everybody unless they get put on a list.

Probably like, you know, the professor at Harvard who wrote the book and it was the title just the n-word. Sir, we need to keep tabs on who bought that damn book. Also, they had to put your picture next to a full reason. I see a plaque of some sort. I see you framed, I see framed art. Accomplished. So I see you accomplished, I see some type of article in a frame of some type of certificate below it. I don't know if you earn something or you own a stipend paint. That could have easily happened. I see a lot of books that are vertical and horizontal. This is one of them bookcases where it's just like, listen, I read books, but like I don't want to be like a book bookcase guy. So I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna give it a strong eight. I'm givet a strong eight,

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