The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Daily Showography of Rudy Giuliani | Katie Couric

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

The U.S. stock market enters an alarming slump, The Daily Show presents a deep-diving biography of Rudy Giuliani, and journalist Katie Couric discusses her memoir "Going There."See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have got an exciting show for you tonight. to their money is gone, and we're going to tell you where it went. We'll to to get to get to get to get to know, we'll to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to know, to to to to to to know, their their the, the, the, their the, the, the, their the, the, tho, tho, tho, the, tho, tho, the, the, their their their their their their their their their their tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, their their their the, their their the, the, the, thin, thin, the, the. Thank you thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thean, thea. thea. Thank you thea. Thank you's most admired journalist, Katie Kirk is here to expose all the secrets of news nobody knew. So let's do this people, let's jump straight into today's headlines. Okay, let's kick things off with the big news from the stock market. You know, the app that they pre-installed on your phone to make you feel dumb. Since the stock market recovered from the COVID tumble in 2020, Wall Street has been having a blast. And the more stocks you owned, the better time you were having, which is why Warren Buffet has got those new grills.

But over the last year, inflation has been rising. The Federal Reserve has been raising interest rates to cool the economy down, and now it looks like the good times in the stock market might be officially over. All lies on Wall Street once again this morning was yesterday the stocks plummeted, pushing the S&P 500 officially into bare market territory. The Dow Jones industrial is now 16% lower for the year. The tech and biotech heavy NASDAQ, down 30% year to date. And the broader S&P index, common in Americans' portfolios, sliding into bare market territory, down 21% this year. Real money that Americans invest to one day retire, pay for kids college, or a new house.

The advice from most financial experts, despite the high stress and the anxiety, don't panic. There's no need to panic. The truth of the matter is don't panic. Sorry, what did they say? I was too busy chugging that comically large bottle of Xanax. I'm not panicked, by the way, I'm just addicted to pills. But yes, people, these are scary times for stocks, because we are now officially in a bare market. Which is when people are so broke they have to

blow Paddington in a parking lot. Oh heavens, oh heavens, oh heavens! No obviously I'm joking! I'm joking! Paddington doesn't have a penis. A bare market is basically when the SMP has dropped 20% from its previous high, which for many can be very stressful. Yeah, right now everyone who's looking at their A-trade account, it feels like the same way you look when you know when you're looking at your ex's wedding photos on Instagram. You're just like, why? Why do I keep looking? Why? Why am I? Oh, I hit like my mistake. No, I liked it. Now I have to comment. I wish you all the best. Ah! Ha! But even if you don't own stocks, a bear market is often a signal that a recession might be coming, and that affects everybody.

The economy slows down. Unemployment goes up. Africans become president. And your mom starts buying the generic cereals with the knockoff mascots. Yeah. Terry the Tiger says says they're adequate. And by the way it's not just the stock market that's falling right now. Yeah. Crypto is crashing even harder with Bitcoin plummeting 67% from its high, which I find really

interesting. Yeah. Because for like the past 10 years, every single crypto bro I've met has told me that crypto would protect me when the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the like the past 10 years, every single crypto bro I've met has told me that crypto would protect me when the mainstream economy failed. Yeah, you heard them they were everywhere. Crypto people would act like you were the crazy one for not investing your life savings into a coin some Swedish teenager invented last week. Oh, are you not in Doggy Monkey Coin? What a loser! You know what's even crazier is that the crypto crowd is blaming Biden for this.

And look, you know, here's the thing. You can blame a president for a lot of things. Inflation, unemployment, not being able to cheer for your son Brandon and a soccer game without it becoming a whole thing. But you can't blame him for crypto. No. My man, if an 80-year-old man who doesn't even know what Bitcoin is, can crash your crypto? Then your crypto ain't shit.

I said it. Yeah. I know you're mad that your Jenga tower fell down, but that's what happens when you play Jenga. Because remember, like, this is what they said to everybody. They said, oh, the crypto is going to save you from the market. That's what crypto is. It protects you.

They made it seem like it was a parachute that would protect us all from the economy. And then now the plane is the, th th th th th th th th thin thin th now the plane is crashing, and then it turns out the parachute is attached to the plane. He's like, what is this? Oh, it's all going down. But let's move on. From that bad economic news to some other bad economic news. For two years now, we have seen the global supply chain crisis impact everything from computers to cars to baby formula. And by the way, why is there never a supply chain shortage of bad stuff? You know? There's never a shortage of like racist Halloween costumes. No? But how will I get canceled now?

But the latest shortage is hitting even closer to home, like, as close as close as you can get. Now to the latest shortage to hit our nation's store, tampons. Women are scrambling to find the products as shelves are increasingly becoming bare. It's the latest of the supply chain issues to have a disproportionate impact on women. The makers of tampax and platex say there's high demand and low supply. It's reportedly stemming from a combination of factory staffing problems, transportation log jams and the rising cost of raw materials like plastics, companies like CVS and

target confirming they are experiencing lower... their their the plastics, companies like CVS and Target confirming, they are experiencing lower inventory. Walgreens telling ABC News they will have stock, but there may only be certain brands available while they navigate the supply disruption. And prices for this essential item, Amy, up nearly 10% according to Bloomberg. That's right. The pandemic supply chain problems have now led to a tampon shortage

A massive tampon shortage and before we panic before we panic I think we need to make sure that this whole thing Wasn't just started by one dude's bullshit excuse for not picking up tampons You know, just like oh sorry babe. I tried but there's like a whole supply chain issue. Yeah, it's like economy stuff. You thinne Yeah, because look this is actually a serious problem. I. I. I. I??????????? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. the tappon. the tapon. the the their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. Before. Before. Before. Before. Before. Before. Before, th. th. th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their tipe. tipe. tipe. ta. ta. ta. ta. tapon. ta. ta. ta. Before their their their thea. Before thi. Yeah. Because, look, this is actually a serious problem. Because without tampons, like, what will women dip into bowls of blue liquid? Yeah, I know how women's bodies work. I've seen it in the ads. I'm that guy. By the way, did you catch how they tried to blame the problem partly on women? Where they're like, due to high demand, what does that mean?

No, but what is that? Due to high demand? Because, isn't the demand always pretty much the same? What has changed? Is there like some viral get your period challenge on Tick-Tock right now? Due to high demand. Get the fuck out of here. And this absolutely sucks. I'll tell you now this sucks for women. Guys don't have to go through this but women do. It sucks. I will tell you who is probably loving it right now though. Is that one forgotten tampon that's been sitting at the bottom of your bag for two years? Well, well, Lisa, I knew you'd come crawling back.

You spent two years throwing T.J. Max's receipts, chapstick and gum wrappers on top of me. But look who's desperately digging around from me now. That's right. You thought you were cool. No wait, come back. I'm sorry. Please don't leave me here. The pennies are so mean to me.

All right. And finally, tonight, I wanted to wish someone very special a happy birthday. Actually, you guys can join me if you don't want, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, President Donald Trump. It's too late. You wish him a happy birthday, you wish him a happy birthday, all of you. Yeah, you made his day and you wish him a long life. He's a happy late, it's too late. You wish him a happy birthday. You wish him a happy birthday, all of you. Yeah, you made his day and you wished him a long life. He's here forever. You guys did that. Today is Donald Trump's 76th birthday. But it turns out... He can't hear you. You went louder?

Yeah, it is his birthday today, but it turns out the haters can't even give the poor man a day off. Because all week, all week long, the January 6th committee has been riding his ass just because he tried to overthrow the government. And now, and now they're even accusing him of fraud just because he asked his supporters for money to set up an election defense fund and then, th.... th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, then, then, then, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Yeah, th th th th th th th th.. th.. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi toe thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th now, and now they're even accusing him of fraud just because he asked his supporters for money to set up an election defense fund and then didn't set up an election defense fund.

And yeah, that looks bad. But people don't realize that some of the money went to really important causes. Investigators claim that President Trump raised over $250 million from supporters to fight election fraud claims. But then funneled the money to to to to money to to to to to to to to to to to to to the money to to the money to the money to the money the money to the money the money the money to the money the money the money to the money to to the money to to set the money the money to set up to set up to set up to to to to their their the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money the money to set the money to set to set the money to set the money to set the money to set the money to set the money to set up million dollars from supporters to fight election fraud claims, but then funneled the money to himself and his allies, including his son's fiance, Kimberly Guilfoyle, who was paid $60,000 for a two-minute speech introducing Donald Trump Jr. at the January 6th rally. God damn! Trump took some of the money that he said he was going to use to fight election fraud and paid his son's fiance 60, $1 thfffa th000 fraud fraud fraud fraud $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $000 fraud fraud fraud $000, to to to $ $ $ $000 f000 f000 f000 f000 f0 f f f f f f f fluclion flion fl.00 fraud toe toe to fl. toe to fl. toe toe toe tolde tolde. tolde. tolde. tolde. told told told told told to f. to f. to f. to f. to fight to fight election to fight election fraud to fight election fraud to fight election fraud to fight election fraud to f. to f. to to to to to to to to to to to to toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe toe tolde told to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to the th some of the money that he said he was going to use to fight election fraud and paid his son's fiance 60,000 dollars for a two-minute introduction speech,

which is such a scam. I don't care what anyone says. That's an even bigger scam than Tai Chi. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Who are you going to fight? An army of slow butterflies? What is this? Who are you fighting? Who he fighting? I will say, though? This does this does this does this does this does this does th. This th. This th. This does th. This does th. This does th. This does thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? Who is thi? Who is thi? Who is thi? Who is thi? Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is th. Who is? Who is? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi? thi. to? to? to? to to thi. to to to thi. to to thi. thi. thi. thi. th? Who are you fighting? I will say, though, this does prove that Donald Trump is a proud feminist ally. Yeah, that's right, I said it. Everyone's always complaining that women get paid less for more work, but Trump, no? He's doing everything to close the wage gap. He paid Kimberly Guilfoy for two minutes of work. He paid Stormy Daniels for two minutes of work. He paid Stormy Daniels for two minutes of work.

Yeah. Trump isn't breaking the law, he's breaking the glass ceiling. And in case you were wondering what a $60,000 two-minute speech sounds like, well take a listen to some of the highlights. Well, good morning D.C. and good morning, America. God-loving, freedom, loving, liberty-loving patriots that will not bet them steal this election. Thank you, President Trump, who stands for law enforcement for the Constitution,

and let's show the president when he comes how much we love him. God bless America, God bless our president, and ladies and gentlemen, the best is yet to come. Okay, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, now I understand it now. She wasn't paid to speak for two minutes. She was paid to stop speaking after two minutes. That's what happened there. I can keep going longer. No, no, no, here's your money, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, the money, the money, the money, the money, the money, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the money, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, the the their, the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to. to toooo. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too. too, tho. tho, thi. thi. that's what happened there. I can keep going longer. No, no, here's your money. Here's your money. Just take the money. Take the money.

Take the money. Take it all. Take it all. Take it all. Even the wind was like, wah-ah-ah-ah. But let's be honest, people. This was not a good speech. I don't, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the the the the thi, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the money, the money, the money, the money, the, the, the, the the the, the, the, the the, the, the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the, the the, the the the the the, tak, tak, tak, tak, tak, took, took, took, took, took, took, took, take, took, take took, took, tak, No good speech ends with Don Jr. coming out. That's not a good speech. And you know once again, as much as people want to be angry at Donald Trump, I feel like this is one of those instances where he is the black light on America's democracy.

Because you see, he didn't invent this scam. Politicians from every party use their campaign funds to enrich their friends. It's just that Trump does it so e so so so so so th. He th. He th. He th th th so th. He th th so th so the the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeei. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thir campaign funds to enrich their friends. It's just that Trump does it so egregiously that everyone notices it. All politicians are like, oh, donate it's for the fund, it's for this, but no one looks at where the money goes. Yeah, it's just something you pay attention to because of how he does it. It's the same way all of us have eaten a grape or two at the grocery stores. But trumps the guy who walks into Whole Foods with a fork and knife, you know? It's like, you guys have the best raw chicken, so good! So good! All right, that's it for the headlines, but before we go to a break,

it's time to check in on the weather forecast with our very own. Desi Leydic, everybody! Desi lighten, thi! thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to tooi, tooi.a, tooi.a.a.iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, t t t to see you again. So, what's the weather looking like? Oh, Trevor, we're inside. It doesn't matter. You know, what does matter is the fact that there's a tampon shortage. I mean, I still have a source, but pretty soon my neighbor's going to start noticing that hers have gone missing. What? Let me tell you, it is bad times for women. I mean, no tampons?

And Trevor, I know what you're going to say. What about pads? And while I am grateful for you as a man, for trying to help solve this problem, it's very cute. cute but pads are off the table okay they are huge and obsolete they're like the iPhone 3 of feminine hygiene it's not gonna happen and I know what you're gonna say next Desi what about the diva cup and look I know that they are supposed to be great for the environment and I get it but I just can't get on board a tampon you take out you never have to see it again but a diva cup it's there every day like it thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the to the to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the th out you never have to see it again but a diva cup it's there

every day like it remembers and it's sea stuff you know anyway also why do they call it a diva cup I do not feel like a diva when I'm cleaning up a murder scene in the work bathroom. If anything, they should call it the Dexter Cup. Look, I think you and I both know that there is only one way to solve this problem, okay? And that's to free bleed. Women, yes, yes, women everywhere need to just start free bleeding. Everywhere, and I mean everywhere. I'm talking the subway, your office chair, Happy Hour at Applebee's. Trust me, if we all do that, men will stop ignoring this problem and it'll get

solved in a week tops. I guess. Yeah, because let me tell you, if there is one thing that freaks men out more than blood, it's women's blood. By the way, I've been talking for two minutes, so you owe me 60 grand. We didn't talk about the weather, but thank you so much. Desiladig everybody. All right, don't go away, because when we come back, you'll find out the gritsy origin story

of Rudy Giuliani, you don't open to have a tenure to tho? Welcome back to the daily show. One of the central figures in yesterday's January 6th hearing was Rudy Giuliani. The one man who didn't abandon President Trump's dreams of re-election just because he had already lost the election. But how did Giuliani become the fearless ask kisser we know today? Well that's the subject of our latest daily showography. What makes a great leader? Is it courage, compassion, charisma? Or is it an integrity and confidence that just leaks out of their pores? A calming strength that drips from every orifice,

and the way they give their blood, sweat, and other bodily fluids to make the world a better place? Since the 2016 election, Rudy Giuliani has been a national leader, spreading his patriotic message at political rally. Let's have trial by combat. Landscaping company parking lots and arenas across this great nation. America! But how did he become the man and or man-like creature he is today?

This is the daily showography of Rudy Giuliani, oozing greatness. Rudolph William Lewis Giuliani was born in 1944 in East Flatbush, New York. His father was an alleged mob enforcer who did time at Sing Sing for armed robbery. He would tell me, never take anybody else's money, make sure you always pay for things. I mean, he wanted to make sure that I didn't make the same mistakes that he believed he had made. It was an inspiring message from a father. Come up with your own original crimes, and he would.

To keep Rudy away from New York City's criminal element, the family moved to the suburbs. I can remember as a youngster that my father would sometimes threaten me with putting me in public schools if my behavior didn't improve, and that was a very frightening thought. But I was a product of Catholic education. And it instilled in me from a very early age a desire to be a priest. That's right. Juliani almost became a man of sweaty handkerchiefs. Ultimately, he chose not to pursue the priesthood, deciding instead to marry his childhood sweetheart,

who also happened to be his second cousin. And while today, that may be seen as weird, back then, it was seen as super gross. After graduating law school, Giuliani began his meteoric career. Quickly rising to the third highest position at President Reagan's Justice Department, he was the youngest person ever to hold the job, but he was already sporting the comover of a man twice his age. Soon, Rudy was U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York.

Rudy wasn't afraid to take on criminals or to give lots of press conferences about how he took on criminals. I think five or six or seven years ago nobody would believe it was possible to convict the head of the Sicilian mafia and have him sitting in the metropolitan correction center. He loved the camera and the camera just wanted to be friends. But soon, taking credit for arrest wasn't enough. He had to pretend to make the arrests himself. I bought Crack. I had a female DEA agent who's like theoretically my date. And we went up and we purchased Crack in Washington Heights. Now that's what I call going

under cover. Tell me you don't think he smoked crack before picking out that outfit. With his crime-fighting career burning hotter than totally normal lust between second cousins, Rudy set his sights on elected office. He first ran for Mayor of New York in 1989, but he didn't quite have the name recognition he needed to win. I would like to commend a Republican candidate, Rudolph Gielhani, Rudy. Sorry about that. Wow, tough break for Rudy Geophilioni.

Four years later, Rudy tried again, and this time he had the perfect foil to rally his voters against. New York's first black mayor. Denouncing David Dinkins as soft on crime, Giuliani led off-duty police officers in a peaceful protest to... But then, minutes later, thousands of cops stormed through the barricades and ran on top of cars as they charged the stairs of City Hall. Okay, it was a peaceful-ish protest. At least typing up a crowd to storm a government

building would be good practice for him. So through sheer charisma and just a little hint of police intimidation, he finally became Mayor Giohani. Sorry, Giuliani. Over the next decade, Giuliani took New York City from a gutter toilet of violence and sex and piss and turned it into a clean, safe utopia with ample magazine jobs that allowed young women to live in giant apartments with walk-in closets and so many shoes.

Under Giuliani, the New York Police Department pioneered some of the most iconic anti-crime tactics of the era, like stop and frisk, broken windows policing, sexual assault with a broom handle. And shooting an innocent guy so many times, Bruce Springsteen wrote a song about it. And Giuliani didn't just go after criminals. He went after all poor people, in the most hilarious ways. Look at you, lying there like that. Don't you have any dignity?

Lying on your butt all day, collecting welfare? Yeah, I think he was still buying crack. Giuliani was bringing glamour back to New York City and if he was making a few enemies he was also making some good friends. You know you're really beautiful. Oh you dirty boy you oh! Finally Rudy found a disguise that managed to fool someone dumber than a crack dealer. By now, Giuliani was ready to shake things up. He dumped his second wife at a press conference without telling her first.

In many ways, we've grown to live independent and separate lives. Leaving her to respond with her own statement about how he was a cheating hoe. For several years, it was difficult to participate in Rudy's public life because of his relationship with one staff member. Rudy moved out of the mayor's mansion and crashed with some friends, a gay couple and their pet shitsu while running a losing Senate race against Hillary Clinton.

Honestly, his life was a lot simpler when he was just banging his cousin. And then, just as his term was coming to an end, Rudy Giuliani found himself right where he needed to be. Tomorrow, New York is going to be here, and we're going to rebuild, and we're going to be stronger than we were before. 9-11 gave Rudy his big promotion to America's mayor. America!

And that's when the party started. Ladies, the mayor of New York City, the honorable Rudolph Giuliani. Yes, no one rose to greater prominence after 9-11 than Rudy Giuliani except maybe Bin Laden. By 2008, Giuliani was finally confident enough to admit he was bald and to make a play for the highest office in the land. Rudy is in. America's mayor now wants to be America's president. Anyway, he came in six in Iowa and was out of the race by February. By the time the 2016 election year came around, Giuliani had realized he didn't need to be president. He could just be friends with one.

It was a win-win friendship. Trump gave Rudy the power he was longing for, and Rudy made Trump look attractive by comparison. As Trump's BFF, Rudy was really going places, even if he didn't always seem to know where he was. From the top to the bottom, from the middle, to the side. The next four years were a whirlwind of campaigning, lawyering, cheerleading, extorting, treasoning, and insurrectioning. By the time it was over, Giuliani lost his law license, several gallons of hair dye, a variety of electronic devices seized by the FBI, and most of all, his dignity.

Hi, it's Rudy Giuliani, and I'm on cameo in in a pay for play scheme. Hey, Giuliani! for play scheme. But Rudy is still easing on, enjoying life to the fullest, maybe even too much. I don't think I've ever done an interview drunk. I have sometimes. I mean, I drink normally. I like scotch. So you do not believe that you have a drinking problem.

I know. I don't know. I don't believe it. I know Prince Andrew is very questionable now. I never went out with him. Ever. Never, never had a drink with him. Never was with a woman or a young girl with him. Ever, ever, ever. One time I met him in my office and one time when we had the party, right, Bernie, you were there? Yes, whether he's standing tall through 9-11 or a blood alcohol level of 9-11,

Rudy Giuliani is a born leader, making his mark wherever he goes, one that no stain remand can ever take away. All right, when we come back, Katie Kury, we'll be joining on the most prominent journalists in America. She's here to talk about the news, business, information, misinformation and her best-selling memoirs going there. Please welcome, Katie Couric. She's here to talk about the news, business, information, misinformation, and her best-selling memoir going there please welcome Katie Couric Katie Curry, welcome to the Daily Show. I've two observations.

I've never been so happy to have gone through menopause. And I need to get in touch, I need to get in touch with Kimberly Guilfoyal speaker bureau. Right? Right? Two minutes, $60,000? Wow, that's quite a thing. Yeah, and it was riveting as we saw. Let's talk about the book, going there. You take us through so many aspects of being Katie Kyrg. You talk us through your eating disorders, you talk us through sexism in the news business and in media. You talk us through the difficulties of news and understanding what your role is and your responsibilities as a journalist. That's what I liked, you know, we live in th th th th th th th th th th their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th th th th thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thir thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thee. theeee. theeeea. theea. theeea. thea. theeea. thea. thea. live in a world where these days people are afraid to be human,

people are afraid to show their flaws. Or admit their mistakes, you know. You know, one of the most vulnerable moments in this book is when you're talking about your interview with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Beretig-Ginsburg. And you talk about how in an interview, you sat down with her, you asked her about Colin Kappinick, and she basically, you said, what is her opinion? And to paraphrase, she basically said,

I think what he's doing is dumb and it was irresponsible. Yeah, disgusting. Yeah. And you now had to decide whether or not to put that in the interview, after her team called and said she misunderstood the question. Talk me through a moment like that, because you're a journalist. You are presenting to the public what has happened, but you also have this responsibility to present what has happened in the most accurate way.

How do you find that balance? So I was interviewing her about a book she had written. So generally, when you have the opportunity to actually talk to a Supreme Court justice, you try to think of is there any news of day that you can get their reaction to. So, you know, you have to kind of slip those in because that's really not what you're there to talk to her about. So, I was interested in hearing her views about Colin Kappernick, so I said, what do you think about it? And I think what people misunderstood who reported about this is I put in about two minutes of her response. You know, you have these ethical dilemmas

and people, you know, make judgments on a regular basis. They just don't talk about them transparently as I was willing to do. And so I remember feeling, gosh, what is my obligation? Should I use everything? Should I be careful because part of it was confusing and I wasn't sure what she met? So I made a decision. And I still wonder if I made the right decision.

In retrospect, I probably just should have put the entire statement out and let people come to the conclusion they wanted to. As it was, her office had to issue an apology. So it's not like I thi th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th the conclusion they wanted to. As it was, her office had to issue an apology. So it's not like I didn't run any of it. And I think I wrote about it because I still question if I did the right thing. And I think that's something that if journalists talk more openly about the decision-making process and how they approach a subject, it would be more transparent and it would be more helpful, I think, to the public.

What do you think changed over the years in America specifically? Because you were part of a generation who was reporting on the news. You were making these decisions, and yet there wasn't an erosion of trust in the media and in the news because of these decisions, and yet now it seems like everyone doesn't believe that there is any good intention behind any journalist and what they're choosing to cover. What do you think changed? Well, I think it's a proliferation of media outlets. I think it's more agenda-driven news organizations that are focused and using commentary.

the news organizations that are focused in using commentary instead of reporting. Now if you look at cable in prime time, it's commentary. It's not reporting the facts. It's not like watching the BBC or PBS News Hour. It's people expressing their opinions. And so I think that has eroded trust in the media. Plus anybody in their basement can throw things on social media and and and then it can basically just spread like wildfire and they say what, when it comes to disinformation, a lie goes around the world in a nanosecond,

while the truth doesn't even have time to tie its shoes. When you look at your journey, you've gone back into journalism in a different way. For instance, on your podcast, you know, you've been covering really in-depth stories about the diminishing access to health care for many women around the country. Obviously, thanks to, you know, abortion restrictions around the U.S. as a whole, why did you go back into it and what are you trying to reveal to Americans that they may not already

know? So I just did a six-part podcast that's being dropped in the next, the second one is being dropped tomorrow on called Abortion the Body Politics. I feel like there's so much information coming at us fast and furiously. I've always really appreciated the opportunity to connect the dots and let people understand sort of the arc of history and how we got where we are. And those are the things I'm just really passionate about. And with modern media, you know, you can say all you want about social media and the ills of social media, but it does allow you to, like brands do, direct to consumer access.

Yes. So like when January 6th happened, I called Mary Trump, I think I was the first, if not, I was one of the first, if not the first interview interview.... to to to the first interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview interview, to to the first interview, to, to, the first, to, the first, to, the first, to, the first, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, direct, direct, direct, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to..... to, to............................ to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the toe. toe. toe. to. the I think I was the first, if not, you know, I was one of the first, if not the first interview, she did. And it's gotten like well over three million views on social media. So disintermediation, as they call it, allows me to just go directly to news consumers without working for the man. And basically, you know, being the boss of me. And if I wanted to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to try, try, try, the the the the the the the first the first the first the first the first the first the first the first, the first the first the first the first the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the the the the the the the the tell, tell, tell tell, tell tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, try..... tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, try., tell, the first, the first, the first, the first... the the tell basically, you know, being the boss of me and if I wanted to talk to someone Trevor for half an hour, even 45 minutes, an hour about gun violence and why nothing has been done to reduce gun violence in the country, I can do it. I'm 65 years old, I'm the boss of me, I run my own show, and I

can speak out about the need for sensible gun laws, and I can be an activist, and everyone should be an activist before they have a fourth grader killed, or to his or her class, or before they have a grandparent killed buying a quart of milk. Right? Right? Right? Speak out before as opposed to afterwards. Yeah so I feel incredibly liberated doing what I'm doing and I have a daily newsletter that you know I can turn my lens on the issues that I think are important and really talk about them. So I'm having a ball basically.

You can feel it in the book, you can see it in your smile, thank you so much for joining me on the show. Congratulations on everything. Thank you tracker. There's everything, there's the podcast, there's the book, all the Instagram lives, Katie's memoir going there, comes out in paperback June 28 and be sure to check out the podcast as well. We're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after the day. Thank you, very much. Thank you. Thank you. We're not touch over to thee.

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