The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The House Passes a Marriage Equality Bill | Jenny Slate

Episode Date: July 21, 2022

The House passes a sweeping marriage equality bill, Dulcé Sloan examines gender stereotypes in children's books, and comedian Jenny Slate discusses her film "Marcel the Shell with Shoes On."See omnys...tudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:17 And Jenny Slate. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. What's going on? Everybody, welcome to the show. I'm Trevinoa. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out in question. Thank you every single one of you. Take a seat.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Let's do this. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out in question. Take a seat. Let's do this. We've got a jam-packed show for you tonight. Sesame Street is trying to spell sorry. Dulseay Sloan reads us a bedtime story and good news. Interracial marriage might finally be legal, which means my parents are about to f- So let's do this people. Let's jump straight into today's headlines.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Okay, let's kick things off with some big news coming out of Washington, D.C. Now, everyone is still shell-shocked by the Supreme Court's recent decision to overturn Roe v. Wade. And although this made conservatives happy because they finally made government small enough to fit inside a woman's vagina, everyone else was pretty furious. And people weren't just angry at the Supreme Court. No, they were pissed at Democrats because they didn't codify Roe v. Wade. And I don't know about you, but I haven't said codify this much in my entire life. We just say it like it's normal. I codified. Did they codify?
Starting point is 00:02:48 You didn't codify it. They should have codified. Did you codify your Starbucks order? I did. Well, it turns out, that same Supreme Court ruling that struck down Roe v. Wade, it also opened the door the door the door the door the the the the the the the that that the that that the that the the that the that that the the the the that the the that the the thozy thobey thobey that thobey thobey the the right to gay marriage, interracial marriage, and contraception, all of which are based on the right to privacy, just like Roe v. Wade,
Starting point is 00:03:12 which is why now Democrats are trying to learn their lesson and protect those rights before Clarence Thomas gets to them. A historic moment on LGBTQ rights. The bill is passed. Nearly 50 House Republicans joined all Democrats to write same sex and interracial marriage into federal law. The vote comes amid growing concerns that a conservative Supreme Court could nullify marriage equality.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Still, 157 Republicans voted against the respect for Marriage Act. Democrats believe that the government has no place between you and the person you love. The House has officially passed a bill legalizing gay and interracial marriage, which is a great victory for 1995. Because let's be honest, it's really strange to be diving back into this debate that we thought was resolved in 2015, right? That's weird that they're like, we're doing it now. What do you mean now? What's next?
Starting point is 00:04:08 I'm gonna start arguing about that dress again? Is that what we're doing? Because it's over, guys, it's over. We decided a long time ago, it's blue and black, all right? And anyone who thinks it's white and golds, and golded, is is is, is, is, is, is, is, is, thi......... It's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, what, what, what, what, what, what, thi, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what th. What th. What th. What th. th. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, th................. th.. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th thr. th th thr. th th th thr. th th th thi. th th th thi. th th th colors, nothing in there. Also, it's even weirder that 157 Republicans voted against this bill. You voted against... So you're on the record now against interracial marriage? Like, look, I know mixed couples have ruined your lives
Starting point is 00:04:36 for the past few years, but I think it's time to let that go. I mean, I don't even know what the argument is against gay marriage. What's the argument? You know, when it became legal in 2015, conservatives all said, oh, America's gonna fall apart when this happens. And yeah, it kind of did, but that's not because of gay marriage. So the bill passed in the house, okay? But there's a chance it might never even reach the Senate.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Because according to one top Democratic senator, the Senate has thenet has thenet has thenet has thenate has thenate has, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, Senate. Because according to one top Democratic senator, the Senate has, quote, more priorities than we have time. And I never understand that. What would you don't have time? How long does it take? Oh? Should gay marriage be legal? Yes, boom, boom, vote it.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That was like, what, three seconds maybe? I have. Uh, should interracial marriage be legal? Boom, bam, yes, there we go, done, that's two votes. Let's go again. Should interracial marriage be mandatory? This one's a little bit harder, but, uh, I'm going to say, yeah, let's do it. Three votes, we're in. We don't have the time.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And speaking of Democrats having messed up priorities, you know how there are all these Republican candidates running for office right now who believe that the election was stolen from Trump by Italian space aliens hacking the voting machines? Well some of those megaheads are starting to win their nominations. And you'll never guess who's helping them out. Another election denier has just secured the Republican primary for governor in Maryland. Trump-backed candidate Dan Cox, known for stoking election fraud fears, and actually encouraging former President Trump to seize voting machines will face off against the Democratic nominee
Starting point is 00:06:23 there in November. In an apparent effort to meddle with the Maryland race, the Democratic Governor's Association paid for this ad, touting Dan Cox, a pro-Trump candidate. This isn't the first time a party has worked to choose its own opponent. And Maryland isn't the only state where Democrats have done it this year. They succeeded in boosting Trump-Aligned Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania and Darren Bailey in Illinois. They are attempting it in Arizona right now with Kerry Lake. They tried unsuccessfully to do it in Colorado by giving an assist to two 2020 election deniers. Yeah, believe it or not, Democrats are actually helping these extreme candidates
Starting point is 00:07:01 win the nomination because they're assuming that they're too crazy to win the general election. Yes, it's a plan that has never that has th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi them them them them them them them them thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the the the the the they are attempting they are attempting the they're they're they are they are they are they are they are they are they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are attempting they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they are they they are them them them that that that that that they're too crazy to win the general election. Yes, it's a plan that has never backfired in the history of America for the last five years. Yeah, I can't see how that could go wrong. And look, on the one hand, I get it, right? It's the classic, get some ass by standing next to the ugliest person But the strategy assumes that Democrats will run a competent campaign against these people. That's a big assumption. I don't know about you guys.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I don't trust the Democrats to run a race properly. This is the only people who will try to shoot fish in a barrel and somehow end up with the fish shooting them. Ah, Nemo got the gun. I thought I had it, but Nemo got the gun! Not to mention, the stakes are so high. Think about if this thing backfires, right? Democrats use their money to help crazy Republicans win their part of the race. And if it backfires, what happens?
Starting point is 00:07:54 Because right now, there's Democrats out there saying, if this maniac gets into office, it, it'll spell the end of democracy as we know it. But on the other the other the other the other the other in the poll, so let's roll the dice baby, let's do it! Democrats forget, not everyone pays attention to politics, all right? Not everyone is super-informed about who the candidates are. Yeah, you might be like, oh, they're just crazy, everyone will see it. No, a lot of people, they just show like, okay, yeah, Republican, Democrat, that's all they vote on. Well, they just vote based on the name they like best. Yeah, I mean, how do you think Barack Obama got elected? Yeah, a lot of people were like, y'all, this white dude's got a crazy ass name. I'm gonna vote for him.
Starting point is 00:08:33 No, wait what? All right, finally, let's move on from the potential downfall of democracy to a more a a a a more a more a more a more to a more to a more to a more to a more to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a to a more light-hearted story about Sesame Street. They're racist. Or at least, that's what they're being accused of, after a video at their theme park went viral. Sesame Street, a place of inclusion and learning for generations of kids. But Sesame Place, the theme park based on characters from the iconic children's TV show is issuing an apology this morning after backlash from this video, showing two young black girls seemingly snubbed by a performer dressed as Rosita at the Sesame Place theme park near Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Sesame Place initially released a statement saying that the costumes characters wear sometimes make it difficult for them to see, adding, the Rosita performer did not intentionally ignore the girls and is devastated about the misunderstanding. But that statement wasn't good enough for many on social media who expressed outrage. Now other parents are sharing their own videos that they say show similar instances of their children being treated rudely compared to others, all seeming to show similar bias by characters at the park. As a result, Sesame Place has issued a second statement saying, saying, saying, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and I, and I, and is tho, and is tho, and is tho, and is tho, and is tho, and is thi, and, and, and, and I, and, and I, and is th. And, and, and, and, and I, and I, and, and I, th. th. th. thi, thi, the the the the thi, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theeeeei. thei. thei. their, their, thei. thei. thei. their, their, their, thea, similar bias by characters at the park. As a result, Sesame Place has issued a second statement saying that they are committed to making this right, adding they will conduct training for our employees so they better understand,
Starting point is 00:09:53 recognize and deliver an inclusive, equitable, and entertaining experience for our guests. This is some bullshit. These little girls are getting snubbed by Rosita. She's not even a top 10 Muppet. Yeah, like if Elmo or Big Bird snubs you, then yeah, I get it. I get it. They're big time. But Rosita? It's like getting snubbed by Hawkeye. My man, you should be honored to take a selfie with me, you Robin Hood-assed-
Starting point is 00:10:20 Moth-haw-a-oh-a-ohsau- mother-flapped. It's just gonna ditch those kids. And just as an aside though, I don't know if this is racism or not, but can we take a step back and appreciate how ironic this outrage is? Because basically what people are saying is, why won't this total stranger touch my kids? They toucest the other kids. touch my kids. Guy in a furry suit that I don't know, touch my children!
Starting point is 00:10:47 You know what got me here is this, Sesame Place's explanation for this whole thing was weird because their excuse was that it wasn't racism, it's just that the costumes make it hard to see at lower levels. But that's where the kids are. Why would you design a costume for kids that can't see most kids? These guys are like, look, we're more than happy to give hugs to any children who are LeBron's height or taller, okay? I mean, if you can't see at lower levels, what happens with the employees in the parks? Like, they must be so confused. Every day they're just going out, they're like, damn, no kids again?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Just a bunch of adult weirdos all by themselves. What's going out here? There's also a disconnect between the thing Sesame Place is saying, because if this was just an innocent misunderstanding, then why is Sesame Place train' training? Because either it was it was it was it was it was it was it was their is they is thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to be to be to be to be to bea. thi. thi. to bea. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. tooes. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi... thi... thi..... thi.. thi... thi. thi. thi. tooed. tooed. tooed. tooed. tooed. toa. thi. thi. thi. thi. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th t t a mistake, or it was racism. It can't be both. You know, it feels like now that's what companies do. They just go like, oh, we're going to do bias training. That's what they say just to get people off their backs.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Yeah, we're going to do. We're going to read some of the black kids? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's all you have to do, see the black kids. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to a break, let's check in on all the latest social media trends with our very own Ronechang everybody! All right, Trevor. All right, Trevor. So, so, so, uh, what's happening online, man? Oh, you really want to know. You really want to know, you guys really want to know what's trending online.
Starting point is 00:12:40 You want to know what stupid bullshit is training on social media that that we're all gonna forget about tomorrow, right? Because this is important, this is so important. All right, let's start with the toxic cesspool that is Twitter. All right? What's trending on Twitter? Surprise me. Oh, oh, Benifer, got married again. Oh, Benifer got married again. Big deal, people'm married again! Big deal, people get married every day. These guys got married in Vegas, okay? They didn't even put in any effort.
Starting point is 00:13:13 For all we know, they were drunk. Okay, and now because, what, two 60-year-old drunk people got married by Elvis, now the whole world's got to talk about it. Oh, I mean, they broke my heart the first time. And now you just just just just just just just just just just just just to what, what, what, what, what, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just th th me's gotta talk about it. Oh. I mean, they broke my heart the first time. And now you just want me to, what, just believe in love again? Huh? Jenny from the block?
Starting point is 00:13:32 And Ben Affleck? From dogma? Like, the point, please, I'm not getting invested in this again. All right? Let's just see what's trending on Instagram. All right Instagram. Oh, what's on the gram now? Let's let's let's let me guess let me guess what's on Instagram? Oh, is it just the stuff that was trending on Tick-Tock two weeks ago? What's the matter? Instagramers you don't have your own ideas? What happened you ran out pictures of your feet in the sand? th? thtake a picture of your book next to your avocado toast with some flowers on it? All right, let's just go straight to the source of the arbiter of human culture now. That is TickTock, right?
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's where all our culture comes from. What's trends their tre. Oh, it's this big trend called the put your shoes on challenge It's where it's where it's where a parent tricks their kid into thinking they have to help them fight another parent and their kid Okay, so let's just watch this clip, but but hang on to your final brain cells Okay, because this one sounds dumb as shit Put your shoes on now. Why? Because I'm gonna go fight this girl and if her son comes out. I? I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. It. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's the the the the their their their their their their their th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's where the the the. theeeeat. trie. trie. trie. trie. the the the the thri the. It's where on now. Why? Because I'm gonna go fight this girl, and if her son comes out, I need you to fight him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I'm gonna beat her eye up. Mama, I'll be like this rock. I'll not go hit it off. Okay, you know what? You know what? I think I changed my mind on this one. Okay, because when I first heard about this, I thought it was a terrible idea because it's the internet.
Starting point is 00:15:11 But you know what, I actually do support child violence, okay? So, what's it? What? What? But the only bad thing that I can see about this challenge is that you don't actually get to see the fights, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, th. tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho, thi, to, to, to, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, tho, tho, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, tho, to, toge, thin, tho, thin, thi?a, thi?a, thi?a, thi, thi, thi is that you don't actually get to see the fights. Yo, let's see the fights, man, commit to the bit, okay? I want to see some blood. Even if your kid isn't good at fighting, you as the adult, when you're fighting, you can use your kid as a weapon, right?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Because they're small enough to fight with. You got a skinny kid, you're just toss them like a spear. You got a toddler, you're cannonball, just cannonball them. You got twins, you got twins, just connect them by the head and now you've got nuncharks. Right? Okay? Now I know, I already know people in the comments section, I can't already hear them just complaining. It's bad parenting. You can't encourage fighting with your kids. It's bad parenting. But you know what? If your kid is willing to fight for you, no questions asked, that means you are a great parent, right? That's right. Now, on the other hand, if you tell your kid, hey, let's go fight, and your kid's like, hey, wait a minute, let's hear both sides. That means you f-ed up, right? I mean look at me, look at me, I love my mom
Starting point is 00:16:25 so much, I beat the shit out of any baby for my mom, right? Yeah, I see a baby, I'm like, yo, don't even get out of the stroller, all right? Yeah, because Mama Chang says hi, bam! Yeah, straight in the umbilical court, yeah, boom. That's right. Back to you, Trevor. Back to me? Are you? Fight babies all day, come on. Nine to 24 months, anytime. Well, good luck with that. Ronnie Chang, everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Someone's true, he doesn't like social media. All right, when we come back, Jose Sloan, has some beef with the cat and the hat. You don't want to miss it. You can't fight him. You can't fight him. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free at Zip Recruiter.
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Starting point is 00:18:05 Again, that's zip recruiter.com slash zip. Zip recruiter, the smartest way to hire. Welcome back to the Zaney show. We all remember our favorite books from when we were kids. I mean, unnel. Welcome back to the Daly Show. We all remember our favorite books from when we were kids. I mean, unless you were born after 2000, then we all remember our favorite YouTube videos. But those classic children's books had a big blind spot that you might have never noticed.
Starting point is 00:18:39 And Dulce Sloan pointed out in another episode of Dulcean. Oh, who cares about Spot? There are snakes in his house. Get out of there! Oh, hello, friends. Didn't see you there, just doing a little light reading. I know some of you might be wondering. Tulsaid, why are you reading a children's book? And to you, I say, why are you mind in a black woman's business? But if you must know, I'm reading these kids' books because of how important they are. The fact is, children's books play a big role in shaping our views of adults,
Starting point is 00:19:15 whether it's about race, a culture, or proper pooping etiquette. areas they influence kids the most is gender roles. And that's a big problem. Because when it comes to gender, most of these books are more outdated than a pair of Jank O'Jane. I mean, why were they so big? We try to sneak Kevin Hart into the movie, because chances are, he's already in it. But speaking of little people, this is something we should all be paying attention to, because by the age of seven, children's ideas about their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, is, is their, is, is, is their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, and, and, and, and, their....... And, their, their, their, and, their, and, and, and, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, th. And, thi. And, today, thi. And, thi. And, thi. thi. their, their, their, their, th age of seven, children's ideas about what they can be when they grow up are already formed. And what do you think those ideas are going to be when they've been reading books like this? Dick and Jane, the book series that almost every first grader was reading in the 1950s and 60s, and it was notorious for portraying stereotypical gender roles. Look at that. The dad and the brother are out playing with Spot and the mom is inside cleaning up spots.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I mean, what is that? A puddle of pee? Was Arkelly their dinner guest? And look at poor Jane in this one. She can't even have a little fun when I'm doing some chores. Can't a girl just roller skate? She has to sweep too. What's next? She's gonna have to jump rope bullshit wasn't just happened in the 1950s. Even in the 90s, the four main jobs women and girls held in picture books were scullery made, daughter, princess, and mother, while men and boys got to be things like detective, aircraft inventor, and night. And let me just say, I've been on dating apps for a long time now, and I've never met
Starting point is 00:20:40 an aircraft inventor. If there's a man claiming that on his profile, chances are the only thing he's invented is dead. And it's not just men and women getting boxed in the old school careers. These books are teaching them how they're supposed to behave in just day-to-day life. You can see this in one of the most famous children books of all times. The cat and the hat. It th is th is th is th is thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus. thus. thus. thus the that is the the that is that is the. that is that is tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. tean. tean. tean. today. the. the thean. thean. th little boy is a narrator, Sally doesn't get to talk at all. She doesn't get to do anything.
Starting point is 00:21:08 She just follows her brother around like she's the Grim Reaper and he's Joe Biden. The only action she does get to do is get tangled up in a kite string. So she's not allowed to talk and she's not allowed to talk and she's not allowed to to finding Waldo. But no one is asking, where's Wanda? And she's been missing for 20 years now. You'd think you could escape this problem by just reading children's books about animals,
Starting point is 00:21:31 but nope. Even in nose books, the main animal character is male, way more often than female. So basically, if you want kids to learn equal gender representation from animals, you gotta take up to learn equal gender representation from animals, you got to take them to the zoo. But good luck with that, because then you'll have to explain why these animals are in jail. And the stereotypes go all the way to plants. Just look at the giving tree.
Starting point is 00:21:53 The tree is female coded and acts as a caregiver to the human male character. That motherly tree gave that boy everything, shaved apples, even wood to build to to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build to build even wood to build a home. And what did he do to pay her back? Turned her into IKEA furniture. Mmm. And while things are starting to improve, there's still a long way to go. Just back in 2017, the bestseller list of children's books was still skewing way more male.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It was like the kids section of Barnes and Nobles was curated. So even though most of the books of the Children's Library perpetuate these old-fashioned gender ideas, the good news is that options get better every year as authors work hard to break these norms and depict women as inventors and scientists or as strong and brave. I'm doing my part and I wrote a children's book myself. It's a classic tale but with a female character who breaks gender norms. It's called No Bro dick in Jane by Dulce Sloan. Jane does not want dick that's broke. Live with your mom that must be a joke.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Jane wants no dick that's in debt. No poor ass pee. No broke ass breath. Jane's broke dick days they are no more. And got no car? Well there's the door. Jane's got no time. She has a job. She has not her fault. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the the that's the the the the the that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. tip. the the th. And got no car? Well, there's the door. Jane's got no time. She has a job. It's not her fault that you don't, Bob. No broke dick for Jane today. James Dick needs its own IRA. The end. See, it's easy to write children's stories that show women can be strong, confident and hold romantic partners to higher financial standards. So let's give our children the Janes they deserve, not the broke dicks they've been getting. Thank you so much for that bill. All right, stay tuned because when we come back, Jenny Slate will be joining me right he. Thank you very well. Thank you very much. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
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Starting point is 00:25:08 Jenny Slate! Jen Slates, welcome back to the Daily Show. Thanks for having me back. I'm so delighted to have you back, especially for this project because, you know, I had heard nothing about this movie as an idea, as a concept. I didn't know about it when it went viral, but I was sitting in the movie theater. I'll never forget this, and you know they're playing all the trailers. And it was interesting because all the trail, th trailers trailers trailers trailers trailers trailers trailers that's that's that's that's thraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraitraits that trailers that came on with like action movies, because I think I was watching everything everywhere all at once. Yes. Which you were also in by the way. That's true. Right. So I'm sitting there watching the trailers and it's like action movie, action movie, action movie, and then the shell comes on. And everyone in the movie theory was like oh. We instantly fell in love. And we instantly fell in love. We instantly fell. We fell in to fell in to fell in to fell in the the the the the the movie. We fell in the movie. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell fell in love. We fell in love. We fell fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in the movie. We fell in the movie. We fell fell in the movie f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f f. We fell in the movie. We fell in the movie. We fell in the movie. We fell in the movie. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell in love. We fell. We fell. We fell. We fell. We fell in the movie. We fell in the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. the movie. We fellthis? Who came up with it? And everybody loves it. It's almost like 100% on rotten tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Everyone is raving about the movie. So first things, first, congratulations. Thank you. And secondly, let's get into the how behind all of this. If someone said to me, you're going to make a movie about a shell with a little like googly eye, I'd be like I don't think this is going to work and yet it it worked. Take it from the beginning. Please explain the concept to me. Okay, sure. So I also think you're right there's absolutely no way to pitch this movie. And it's a big vote for like if you have an idea and you're not sure how to explain it, maybe just try to find a way to do it. I love that.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, and I think, so I was like doing the voice first. I was with Dean Fleischer Camp who I directed this film and he and I were at a wedding and we were sharing hotel room with like four other people because you were trying to save money. Okay. About about this this th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the thi, they. I I I, they. I, they. I they. I they. I, thi, they. I'm theea, the thea. thea. thea. I'm, thea. I'm thea. I'm thea, toea, thi people because we were trying to save money. Okay. About 12 years ago. So wait, that means it's a destination wedding. It was Connecticut. Take it or leave it, you know? That's what they chose. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:38 It's hard to hear, but anyway, I was doing it. And Dean was like, you know, I have to make a to make a a a a a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a to make a, I have to make a short film for my friend's comedy show, could I interview you in that character, whatever that is? And I was like, yeah, because I love an interview, honestly. I was like, yes, anybody asking me anything for sure. And so he asked me some questions, it, the character started to emerge. He did the character design, he stuck a gougly eye and a shell and you know glue the shoes and everything. And we had this sort of like interview-based short film that we ended up putting on the internet because someone at the comedy show was like, could you put this
Starting point is 00:28:13 online? I want to show it to my mom and we just thought this like these two people might see it and it was a lot more than two people. It was a lot more. Millions more than two people. Yeah, yeah. It was like over 36 million people. Yeah. Right. I know. And so, I mean at that point the story's not done.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It's not like it's like, oh, 36 million, then it's a movie. Because it ttook seven years. We first started with the audio recording, and a lot of it was like improvised, and then we would write scenes based on the improv. And eventually ended up with a script. That took about three years, and then we did the live action shoot, and then the stop motion.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And it's gorgeous, the waythe stop motion. And it's gorgeous. The way they move is gorgeous as well. It's like little tiny, little, hoppy, steppy, you know? Yeah, yeah. I like that it is. Our animation director, Kirsten Lepore, made like such beautiful animation. It's not super smooth. Yes. You know, it's just real movies that you watch these days, right?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Movies will be like, oh, the sequel of the sequel, or the prequel, or the sequel, or the sequel, or the sequel, right? Yeah, got to get that prequel. And then the spin-off and then the spin-off to the sequel, heart-wrenching. I never thought I would watch a movie where you obviously you're laughing I was like I'm gonna laugh because there's a shell you know with the eye but then but then there's moments around I'm just like oh the shelf. It's a really emotional story that you've told it's a feel-good story as well. Yeah yeah I think one thing that I'm interested in is like how those can exist at once. I know like I certainly live that way that I can experience like grief and loss while also trying to live a life that
Starting point is 00:30:10 feels satisfying on a daily basis and that is like one of the things that's built into the film and I think I think it is funny and I think also there are a lot of adults that end up crying during the movie. Which is good. Yeah oh yeah and and everybody's made thi is funny. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th is th is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi's thi's thi's thi's thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiii thiii. thi. thi. thi. thi thi thi thi thi thi crying during the movie. Which is good. Yeah, oh yeah, and everybody's made in noise. Yeah, yeah. I think it's good. I think more adults should be crying in more movies. I think so. The stories that I feel like you like to tell,
Starting point is 00:30:34 don't just involve like voices and, you know, and heartwarming issues, but it's like, there's something that I feel connect you or that you that you that you that you that you that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I that I feel that I feel that I feel that I feel that that that I feel connect you or that you're attracted to in telling an adult story to kids that's almost secretly going to adults, you know? I wonder, are you gonna do more of this or are you gonna make any, you know, do you have any dreams, for instance, of making any kids shows or?
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, well, first of all, yes, I do. And I think you're right. I do like stuff like sthav-like stuff stuff stuff stuff stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like stuff like that that that that that that that. children are actually capable of like feeling huge, vibrant, and sometimes overwhelming feelings, and it's good to give them a space to try that out and say, yeah, you're like really strong enough to do this. But also, there are so many adults who weren't given that opportunity, so it's nice for them to see something where they see like a young or small thing,
Starting point is 00:31:22 really making it work in that way. But I think, you know, you, you, you, you, you, I would the I would thi I would thi I would thi I would thi thi thi thi thi thi, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to to to thi, to thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, the thean, thean, thean, thean, toge,thing really making it work in that way. But I think, you know, I would really like it if I had my own show for children and people. I grew up like, I think it would be nice. I like to say somewhere between Peewee and Mr. Rogers, but with a woman. Okay. Yeah, I don't want to give it to a man. I want it to be me. But with a woman. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:32:52 Because I'm gonna pitch it, because now you showed me how successful it could be. Okay. So you can be, you can be handy the sanitizer. Okay. Or you can be bluey the drink thing. Or you can be Stan the stapler. Oh, stand. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay. And then Yeah, so you can see everything clearly. Do I there we go. Oh, oh you're doing that. Oh, you're doing that. Oh, you got it. Oh, great. Oh, I'll go into that shot. I'll go into that shot. I know how that? Oh, you're doing thi? Oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, the. Oh, oh, oh, oh, the. Oh, the the the they. Oh, oh, oh, they. Oh, the the the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. Oh, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. I know how cameras work. I can be here. Where's that thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the eyes. All right. Oh, you're getting my back. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And then we need these eyes turning as... Which way? Oh, oh, they're, that's the one. Oh, that's the one. That's the one. That's that's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. the one. the one. th. the one. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. th. th. tho. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. the the the the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. the. the. the. the. th-. th-. th-I. th-I. th-I. th-I. th-I. theya.'re in Chicago. That's very specific very specific All right, and what are they trying to do in Chicago? Go to the circus. Okay, okay, okay, all right they're in Chicago and they try to go to the circus, but they can't because why? It's hot right now. It's too. It's too. All right. All right. They in Chicago. They're try. I'm they're th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm hot. I'm hot. th. th. th. th. they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try try try try try try. try. try. try. try. try. try. try. they're trying to go to the circus, but the car broke down. All right, all right. All right, okay, I'm ready with, all right. Stan, calm down.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Stan, I just need you to calm down for one moment. Oh, I can't calm down. The car is broke down. Ah, ah, we're gonna get to the circus now. Can I admit something to you, Stan? Oh, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to, th, to, th, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, th, th, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, the their, their, th, all th, all th, all th, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. All, that, that, that, that, that, that, toge, toge, toge, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, ah, how are we gonna get to the circus now? Can I admit something to you, Stan? Oh, go ahead. I broke the car because I don't want to go to the circus, because I don't want everyone to pump my darn head. What? What?
Starting point is 00:34:36 I told you my dream was to go to the circus, and you broke the car? You know a hundred is for a staler to to th, the th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, th, th, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th.. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, thi, thin, too. too. too. too. tooo. too?a, toooooomo. too. too. tooo. too. too. too. too. too. to stapler to buy a car? That was the first car ever born! How could you do that to me? I didn't know that it was your first automobile first of all? Uh-huh. Secondly, Stan, you know that whenever we go anywhere people pump my head. Yeah, yeah. And you know what, you know what? That's life. That's life. Look at you. You've been a hands and dad of work. A few years of the pandemic and you're tired? You know how long people have been say my tap? Ah! Ah! Ah! Stan, these last few years have been really hard for me. A lot of people have been pumping my head. They don't ask. I've had to read... What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:35:21 Uh, guys? What? I ordered an Uber. We don't need to have this fight. And see, we've got it. We've got it. You make a million. We're making a million. All right, people knock out and a show with shoes on. It's now playing in the theaters nationwide.
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