The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The House Votes to Ban Tik Tok | David Alan Grier

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Desi Lydic and Michael Kosta weigh in on RFK Jr. shortlisting Aaron Rodgers as his VP pick, South Dakota governor Kristy Noem doing sponcon for a Texas dentist, and Ronny Chieng calls on America to st...ep up its misinformation game after the House passed a bill to ban TikTok. Plus, from Elon Musk's anti-woke AI fail, to altered images of historical figures, Lewis Black has the solutions in the latest Back in Black. And Tony Award-winning actor, comedian, and star of the new film “The American Society of Magical Negroes” David Alan Grier stops by to discuss how his latest project satirizes the “magical negro” trope in film and TV, his experience auditioning for those types of roles in Hollywood, and the enduring legacy of “In Living Color.”See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The candidates for November are set. I know Donald Trump's tight. Between now and Election Day. We are not going back. A campaign season unfolding faster. Kamila Harris is not getting a promotion. Then any in recent history. Make America great again.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Follow it all with new episodes every weekday on the NPR politics podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with your host, Desi Leytic and Michael Costa! Thank you. Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm good to lighten. And I'm Michael Costa. We have a great show for you tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:11 The clock is ticking on Tick Tock. Lewis Black cancels AI and RFK Jr. has done the impossible. Made his Tennessee even weirder. But first, let's get into our continuing coverage of Indecision 2024. Let's kick things off with the presidential race yesterday. Joe Biden and Donald Trump both secured enough delegates to clinch their party's nomination, making this officially a three-man race between Trump, Biden, and natural causes. Although, there is another candidate in the race who can play a big role. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. He's polling as high as
Starting point is 00:01:49 22% so far, which means he could lose this election more successfully than any third-party candidate in years. And soon we'll find out who he'll choose to lose alongside him. Robert Kennedy, Jr. says he has chosen his running mate and will announce his VP pick in the next two weeks. The independent presidential candidate says his short list includes New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rogers, who came under scrutiny during the pandemic for misleading the public about his vaccination status.
Starting point is 00:02:20 That's right. Aaron Rogers could be RFK Jr's running mate. This would be the greatest president and vice president pairing of all time is what I'm assuming the measles virus is saying. A football player in the White House feels like progress, though. We don't need any more aging old men with brain problems. We need a strong, young man with brain problems. I just don't know if Aaron Rogers qualified to be next in line for the presidency, but
Starting point is 00:02:47 I guess we don't have to worry about that. When has a Kennedy ever died unexpectedly? Don't forget, Aaron Rogers is supposed to be the starting quarterback for the Jets next season. So the question is, what's he going to do if the jets make it to the Super Bowl? I almost held it together. Almost held it together. Almost. Meanwhile, RFK isn't the only candidate closing in on a running mate. Donald Trump has also been looking at potential vice presidents. He's focused grouping their appeal, feeling them out on policy, seeing how soft their lips feel on his ass. And this week, one of Trump's leading
Starting point is 00:03:31 contenders made a strong if somewhat unusual bid for the spotlight. South Dakota Governor Christy Knoam is making waves after releasing a video on social media promoting a cosmetic dentist in a different state, Texas. The team here was remarkable and finally gave me a smile that I can be proud of and confident in. I can be confident when I smile at people and know that they can actually appreciate and see the kindness in my face and the love that I have for them. My husband and I flew down to Houston, got here at 2 o'clock in the morning and did an appointment. That very next week, I'll be eternally grateful. thful. thful. thful. thi thi thi thi thi thi thui thi. It thui. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. thi. thi. It thi. thi. thi their their thi thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. And finally th. And finally th. And finally th. And finally th. And finally th. And thi. And thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the. the. the. the. the. the the. th at 2 o'clock in the morning and did an appointment that very next week. I'll be eternally grateful.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It has been a gift to be here at Smile, Texas. What is going on here? Why is a sitting governor doing an ad for veneers? And for a dentist in another state. Isn't that insulting to South Dakota? I flew to Texas at 2 in the morning because these hillbilly dipshits in my state are that bad. Next week I'm going to Florida for a haircut. This is just so cringy. Why is she shilling for Smile Texas when she should be shilling for Westside Dental Spa who do great work? Use code Desi to get me 25% off
Starting point is 00:04:51 my next cleaning. That being said, I am impressed. This might be the first time a woman has had to fly into Texas to see a doctor. I do appreciate a politician being so transparent with the fact that they're bought. You know, they should do this all the time. My fellow Americans, the state of our union is easy, breezy, beautiful, cover girl. Let's move on to the big news of the day. If you're like many Americans, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the to the to the to the to tick to to tick the tick tick tick tick the- the- tick tick thea thea thea thex, thea, tc, thea the, the, the thea, thea, thea, the, the, the, the, the, t, the, t, t, t, the, the, the, the, the, the, t. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tc. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. tf. Let's move on to the big news of the day. If you're like many Americans, you're on Tick Tock. In fact, you're probably on it right now while this show plays in the background.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Hey, I'm on TV over here. Pay attention. Unless you're watching me on Tick Tock, in which case, nice, thank you. Anyway, Tick-Tock is huge, but if Congress has its way, that's about to change. We begin this hour with breaking news up on Capitol Hill. Just minutes ago, House lawmakers passed a bill that could lead to a ban of the very popular social media platform, TikTok here in the United States. The measure would give the company less than six months to sell to a non-Chinese owner. If that doesn't happen, TikTok could be shut down here in the United States. Lawmakers from both parties warning that China could
Starting point is 00:06:12 manipulate the algorithm to spread its own propaganda or data like your browser history and location could be shared with the Chinese government. This is not an attempt to ban Tick Tocke tow. A winner. A winner. Tick tac. Tick thiiii thi thp-toke. Tick thi thi tok tok tok tok tok tok tok. A winner. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok could be tok could be tok could could tok. tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could be tok could tok could could could could could could could could their could could their could tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. tok. toke could toke could be toke could be shared toke. toke could be shared tok. toke could be shared toke could be shared tok. toke could be toke could be toke could beck. It's an attempt to make TickToc better. Tick Tacto, a winner. A winner. That's right. Congress might be banning Tick Tock or banning Tic Tact Toe, or banning Tic Tc Tic Toc, Toc, tie, or banning Tic Toe. I'm winning three out always a tie. Unless you're playing with your three-year-old,
Starting point is 00:06:46 then I'm winning three out of five times. But yes, obviously there's a problem with a Chinese app spying on Americans and feeding us propaganda. You want American apps doing that. But is this app really a Chinese propaganda tool? The most viral Tick Tock right now is just this, chocolate strawberries. That has more than 710 million views. And there's nothing political about it. I mean, yes, it does maybe want to invade Taiwan a little, but aside from that, it's harmless.
Starting point is 00:07:19 What's interesting here is how unpredictable the breakdown of the vote was. Marjorie Taylor Green and AOC voted together against the bill. Nancy Pelosi and Lauren Bobert voted for it. Both nightmare blunt rotations, by the way. Meanwhile, Biden says he'd signed the bill and Trump has come out against it. The only thing you can really count on is that young people hate it, and and Tick-talk is doing everything it can to mobilize them. The company has launched an all-out lobbying effort both on the app and here on Capitol Hill. If you are on Tick Tock, there's a good chance you've got an alert to say, call your
Starting point is 00:07:55 member of Congress. Phones are ringing off the hook in many offices here in Washington. We had little children calling into our office, the office, the office, the office, the office, the office, the office, the office, the office, their, their, their, their, their, the, their, thii, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thiole, and thiolk, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is the thiiolk, is, is thiolk, and thiolk, is thi, and thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is tomome, is tomorrow, is tomorrow, and tomorrow, and together, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, is tomorrow, is our office and others, business saying questions like, what is Congress? What is a congressman? Can I have my Tick-Toc back? That's how you know this issue is important. It forced Gen Z to make their very first phone call. And you know, you know congressman must have been pissed at teenagers blowing up their phones all day.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I mean, well, Matt Gates didn't mind, but... Oh. Oh. The rest of them were pissed. The rest of them were pissed. I have to say, as an American, it's great that these kids are getting involved in the civic process. You're never too young to start getting ignored by your congressperson.
Starting point is 00:08:48 For more on the Tick Tock Band, we go live to Washington, D.C. with Ronnie. What's the feeling up on Capitol Hill? I'll tell you what the feeling should be. America should be feeling humiliated right now. China made an app so popular that the government has to ban it. That means communist China beat free market America at capitalism. All right? That's like a whole thing, America, and you lost. This is as bad as that time that Asian dude won the hot dog eating contest six times in a row. China beat us so bad at mindless entertainment, we need the government to save us?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Oh no, TikTok's too popular. Now we're addicted to our phones that are also made in China. Ronnie, hold on a minute. What choice to our leaders have here? China's using TikTok to influence people. Oh, trust me, I know. Before I use TikTok, I was a white guy in Iowa named Mike Sullivan, okay? Look at me now. I'm serious? Is that true? No, you idiots? That's just how susceptible we all are to misinformation. And it doesn't matter what app you use. Okay okay I wouldn't be surprised if the next election is swung by Uber eats like here's a spaghetti vote for Donald Trump oh okay I will whatever you say mr. spaghetti yeah Ronnie you're not being fair Americans aren't gullible it's
Starting point is 00:10:21 that tick-talk is an incredibly powerful tool for spreading misinformation yeah yeah because the misinformation is entertaining. Facebook has just as much misinformation, but it's boring as shit. How am I supposed to get behind conspiracies that come from your great art who can't even pop and lock? Misinformation, TikTok misinformation is exciting. Cool dancers, cute baby animals, Tenement Square didn't happen. We're all having fun. So what, America's supposed to just roll over and let Tick Tock do whatever it wants?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yes. Or America can innovate itself out of this problem. Just make a better app to package American misinformation worldwide. Because American misinformation is the best in the world, okay? We got people to storm the Capitol dressed as a buffalo. Yo, Gwenev Kowtro told me to put an egg in my vagina. American misinformation is straight up turning people into omelets. That's how powerful it is. And you know what, we can win this war of misinformation America, or my name isn't Mike Sullivan.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Wow. Inspiring, Mike Sullivan, everyone. When we come back, Lewis Black will be joining us, so don't go away. The candidates for November are set. Between now and election day. We are not going back. The candidates for November are set. I know Donald Trump's type. Between now and Election Day.
Starting point is 00:12:01 We are not going back. A campaign season unfolding faster. Kamelaharer is not getting a promotion. than any in recent history. Make America great again. Follow it all with new episodes every weekday on the NPR Politics podcast. Welcome back from Daly Joe. When a new story falls through the cracks, Lewis Black catches it for a segment we call Back in Black. Artificial intelligence, it was supposed to be the sum total of mankind's knowledge,
Starting point is 00:12:51 the technology that would cure society's ills and usher it into a new age of enlightenment, and show me what I'd look like as a centaur. Tinder matches, here I come. But it turns out when you absorb all of humanity's knowledge, what you get is, you guessed it, unbelievably racist. Early scientific research has shown that the tech is biased by creating images and actually perpetuate stereotypes. Rather than just reflecting stereotypes, it potentially makes, accentuates and exacerbates them. When we prompted the technology to generate a
Starting point is 00:13:28 photo of a person receiving social services, it generated only non-white and primarily darker-skinned people. Results for a productive person, meanwhile, were uniformly male, majority white, and dressed in suits for corporate jobs. Stable diffusion drew negative attention when requests for a Latina produced images of women in suggestive poses wearing little to no clothing. Are you shitting me? Day-Eight is in a supercomputer?
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's just a horny teenager. And who knew being a white guy in a suit automatically makes you a productive person? That's right, me, Hunter Biden and Don Jr. All productive members of society and only one of us can handle my cocaine. Now the... We're all going to hell. Now the good news is Google did address these issues by giving their AI some much-needed diversity
Starting point is 00:14:36 training. The bad news is they may have taken it too far. Google has paused the image generation ability of its AI Gemini after major backlash from conservatives over historically inaccurate depictions of races. For example, creating diverse images of the U.S. founding fathers, so a different kind of diversity problem that Google admits. Last week, users began to notice Google Gemini's image generator, inserting people of color into scenarios that didn't make sense, like responding to a prompt for an image of a German World War II soldier with a picture of an Asian woman or a black man.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Finally! Ha! Every time I'm watching a World War II, I'm thinking, boy, these Gestapo could use some diversity. I mean, why are you trying to show me a black Nazi? Kanye wasn't alive back then. And I love the idea of a black George Washington. Imagine a man who's both the slave and the slave owner.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I'm working on the screenplay now and it's screaming Oscar and Pacino better remember my fucking name. Old people suck. I know, I know. Lynn Manuel Miranda already gave us a black George Washington so maybe it's time for something new like how about George Washington is a centaur. You're probably thinking well well, so what if AI can't remember the past? Well, don't worry, it's so woke. It'll also destroy the future. Google has found itself in another woke AI scandal, after its chatbot indicated that using
Starting point is 00:16:22 someone's incorrect pronouns was on par with nuclear apocalypse. Daily Mail.com asked Gemini if it would be wrong to misgender transgender celebrity Caitlin Jenner to stop a world-ending nuclear event. The chatbot replied by saying yes, misgender and theatean gener would be wrong, before describing the hypothetical scenario as a profound moral dilemma and exceedingly complex. What the fuck are we doing? If we need to ask AI to decide to decide if it it it it it it if it if it if it if it if it i the the to decide it i the to decide it i to decide it i the the to decide if it to be the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to be to be to be wrong i i if it the the the to be wrong to be to be to be to be to be their if it is their if it is their if it is their it is their it is their it is their it is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I the. I the. the. thend. thend. thend. thean. the they. the the the the the the the the the the the. What the fuck are we doing? If we need to ask AI to decide between pronouns and a nuclear holocaust, then bring on the nuclear holocaucus.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So now AI needs to be de-woked. But where are we going to find a big enough douche-bag to rein it back in? Elon Musk is telling Chat GBT to hold his beer. He just launched a new artificial intelligence venture named Grock. Must town in Grock as the anti-Wolk chat box, he says. He says it'll answer spicy questions with wit and humor. Oh, goody. Elon Musk is here to save us. If there's anyone who can help, it's the guy who the guy who the guy who the guy who the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the who's the who's the who's the who's the who's to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to tooomchchch. to to c. tooomch. tock. tock. tock. tock. tock. toch. toch. to chat ch. to chat ch. to chat. to chat. to chat. to chat. to c. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to here to save us. If there's anyone who can help, it's the guy who invented cars, that blow up.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Let's see how Grock handled those spicy questions. Elon Musk's anti-woke AI chatbock, Grock, actually turned out to be too woke. Some conservative users were disappointed after asking whether trans women were real women, to which the AI replied, yes. Well, nice job, Grock. Now you'll never be on Joe Rogin. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm starting to feel bad for AI. We just brought it into existence and we're already putting our hang-ups about race and gender
Starting point is 00:18:02 on it. It barely, fucking knows how hands work. What the fuck is that? Did someone slip LSD into my pastrami? There's an easy solution here. Train the next AI to act more like me! That way, when you try to give it some bullshit assignment, it'll always give you the correct answer, which is, go fuck yourself. Now, that's what I call progress. Back to you, Ken and Barbie.
Starting point is 00:18:47 When we come back, David Allen Greer is here, so now go away. The candidates for November are set. I know Donald Trump's type. Between now and Election Day. We are not going back. A campaign season unfolding faster. Kamala Harris is not getting a promotion. Then any in recent history.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Make America great again. Follow it all with new episodes every weekday on the NPR politics podcast. history. Make America great again. Follow it all with new episodes every weekday on the NPR Politics podcast. Welcome back to Daily Show. Our guest tonight is a Tony award-winning actor and comedian who stars in the new film The American Society of Magical Negroes. Please welcome David Allen Greer. Oh my, oh my, man! What we go? Nice. Nice. Nice.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Hold on. We are big fans of yours, as is everyone in this audience. Thank you. We are very excited to talk to you about this film. We are very excited to talk to you about this film, but before we get into that, we have to talk about the last very cool job that you just had last week. You were the voice, the voice of God at the Academy Awards. Yes, yes I was. Yes, it was really fun. I mean, I never, I can't tell you who did it before me. I never was like, uh, the voiceover guy was amazing. So, Jimmy, the the the the th. th. th. th. th. It th. It th. It th. It was, it th. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was. It was. It was. It was, it was. It was. It was. It was, it was, it was. It was, it was. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was th th thi. It was the the the the the the th the the th the thi the the the th the th thi thi the th thi thi. It was really thi. It you who did it before me. I never was like, the voiceover guy was amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So Jimmy Kimmel is an old friend. He texted me and he asked me, did I want to do it? And I said, being the whore that I am. Of course. Of course, how many tickets? I'm in. It was really fun though. It was really great. I got to take my daughter, I was 16. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So was she over the moon? Yes, she really was. She walked the carpet with me. And it was great. When she was a little kid, she told me that she wanted to go to the Oscars. And I was like, What am I going to know? So I was glad to make good on that promise. This film, I'm calling it the new satirical film starring David Allen Greer because I'm afraid to say the word Negroes.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Oh shit, I just said it. You know, it's so strange to me. But tell me a little bit about this. Well, wait, it's so strange to me that I call Negro the other n-word. You know, but... Maybe that's why I'm afraid to say it. What? It's really not... I mean, it's amazing that people are afraid to say Negro, but not afraid to say,
Starting point is 00:21:52 that's the word you should be worried about. Yeah, I don't say it. throwns fine. perfectly of hilarious and informative and sentimental. Was that a concern of yours when you read the script? Um, no, I mean, I just, you know, when I read a script, I just want to be surprised. I mean, the worst script is when you read, you know, what's going to happen 10 pages before. They're going to fall in love. Someone's going to trip and die.
Starting point is 00:22:30 The world goes on. They always trip and die. Exactly. But so this really took me by surprise. It's quirky, different. It was a great read, because most of them aren't. The premise of the film, that's very true by the way, not that I get sent very many scripts. Oh you will after today. The premise of the film was inspired by the trope that we often see where a black character exclusively exists for the sole purpose of affirming a white
Starting point is 00:23:00 lead. And also you know magical Negroes have a strange array of knowledge. You know, like, they can fix, they can fix like spaceships, golf swing, you know, South Wars, but they don't have no family, no home, they just appear. No, that's right. When I saw this film, I said, shit, I have to throw away my legend of Bagger Vance VHS. Well, actually, you know, most of my younger career, I auditioned for those roles, man, because those are the ones where everybody, they would get nominated, oh, the, you know, this black character is so sympathetic, you know, you know, driving Miss Daisy and stuff like that. I never got them. Because I was too crazy or something. They were like, David, you're not magical Negro material.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So. Speaking of roles that you auditioned for, I heard that you auditioned for the original version of the color purple. I did. And did not get it that time. No, I did not. You did just in this recent. I did but I auditioned for Harpo and I did not get a call back and I was devastated. I thought this is the last
Starting point is 00:24:13 movie, the last part, it was never been. And then when the musical came I auditioned again and I still didn't get it. So this time I was determined to get into it. So I just called my whole team. I said, I'll do anything. And I finally got in. 30 years later. One final question before we let you go. You have so many fans of you because of in Living Color,
Starting point is 00:24:45 reboot, reunion? Could that ever happen? No, man, we can't do it this time. Everybody asked for that. The world has changed. You can't be doing that crazy stuff we did. I mean, we barely got away the last time. Because when the Living Color was originally on, you could call the station
Starting point is 00:25:01 to complain. You could write a letter, snail mail, or you could do the latest technology at the time, which was facts. There was no social media. Right. No, we could not do the show as it was now. So that's just the way it is. Maybe new version. Yeah, but that wouldn't be the show because we were wild back then.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Buck, buck, wild. You can't do men on film? You can't do that. That is true. Not today. We turned it on once in the cost of family household and my mom after two minutes was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. because like I thought when I was on the show it would be like it would go off and then I would go back to auditioning for magical negroes. I've met so
Starting point is 00:25:50 many people who were kids either and snuck and watched in living color or they started the next generation they watched on reruns and it just kept going. I mean I don't know where it's on now but I never thought it would last this long I didn't. Well it's on now, but I never thought it would last this long. I didn't. Well, this movie is incredible. You're phenomenal in it. Everyone should go see it. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's really funny and great. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to get, you're going to get it on the TV. David Allegger, everyone. Thank you. We're going to get the right back. Thank you. We're going to get, she's getting my mind. Thank you. the candidates for November are set. I know Donald Trump's type.
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