The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Pandumbic - Omicron Variant Conspiracy Theories | Natalie and Derrica Wilson

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

North Korea bans leather coats, right-wing conspiracy theories about coronavirus variants abound, and Natalie and Derrica Wilson discuss the Black and Missing Foundation. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You're listening to Comedy Central. How is it that we're this deep into a pandemic but we still don't have a standardized way to get the test done in our nostrils? Can anybody tell this to me? Like everyone has their own technique of doing the thing. You know what I mean? Like some people do like the gentle, like tickle tw the thing where they're like, it's like a coloring pencil in your nose, and then other people do the thing where they're trying to see coronavirus is in the depths of your brain, you know what I mean?

It's like therapy but with a cotton swab. Well, is this what you think of your parents? Yeah, you've rechanged my thinking. Like, their thrown, the the the throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. throwne. thoooooomoes. thoomoomorrows. throwne. thoes. thoes. thoomoomoomoomoomoomoomoomoome. thoome. thoome. thoome, and then when they were doing that thing with the stick on your tongue, they all had like a different technique. Like some doctors were like, no, no, no, no, you bring your mouth to me. I hold it here. Yeah, this is my style. That's how I do it. You've got cancer. I'm just saying, can we get like one standard, my nose doesn't know what to prepare itself for. Some days it's pain, some days it's pleasure.

And yes, it's been very pleasurable on some occasions. Sometimes they twil that that tip in the right way, man. Ooh, you feel it in your toes. You like, damn, I might not be positive for COVID, but I'm feeling something else. Just me? I'll see you guys at the test tomorrow. Coming to you from the heart of Times Square in New York City,

the only city in America. It's the Daily Show, the Daily Show says no, Queen. Tonight, Barbados says no, Queen. COVID-conspiracy craze continues. And Natalie and Derica Wilson. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on, Michael? told me.

Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah, and joining me for today's headlines is my good friend, Michael Costa. What's going on, Michael? How are you doing? I'm doing great. You know, tonight's the third night of Hanukkah. Not a lot of people knew that. You know, everyone's still going to work. I always feel like, first of all, I want to say what's up to my Jewish people, you know, great holiday. But I feel liketo take care of your kids. You know, I feel like Hanukkah needs more respect, which is why from now on, for the rest of Hanukkah,

I'm not coming into work, and I think all of us just don't go to work for the rest of Hanukkah, and for all Hanukes in the future. Solidarity with myukkah, so. Sounds a lot like your Divali argument, but yeah, good for you, Michael. I'm just, you know, I'm trying to, I don't want Hanukkah to get the shaft. I mean, I hear you, it's just a little suspicious that you always seem to be, you know, finding new people to be allies, the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you know, finding new people to be allies to when it comes to not coming to work. I'm just saying, but good for you. Thank you. Good for you.

Lahime. All right, let's jump into today's headlines. We kick things off with the new coronavirus variant that is scaring the world. Omnichron. Omicron. Emmanuel Macron? Either way, you people know what I'm talking about. The world is still waiting to find out whether Omicron, that's what it is, will be a significant problem in our lives. And I wish they would hurry up, because I need to know what I'm doing in two weeks from now.

You know, should I be buying buy Spider-Man tickets for the wild animals? But while most of the world is willing to wait and see, at least one person feels comfortable about making predictions. The Moderna CEO told the Financial Times, he expects the existing vaccines to be less effective against the new variant of COVID. I think it's going to be a material drop. This was on vaccine efficacy. I thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, but thi, but, but, but, but, but, but, thi, but, thi, but, but, thi, but thi, but thi, but thi, but thi, but thi, while thi, while thi, while thi, while thi, while the the the the the the the the the the the the their thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. But, thiolan, thioli, thi. But, while, while thioli, while thioli, while thi, while to be a material drop. This was on vaccine efficacy. I just don't know how much because we still need to wait for the data,

but all the scientists I've spoken to are saying this is not going to be good. Hmm. So on the one hand, almost all the Omicron cases have been mild so far. But on the other hand, the guy who stands to gain millions of dollars from new vaccines says we need new vaccines. Huh. If we don't make a new vaccine, this disease could be with us Ferrari. I mean forever. Sorry, I was thinking of something else. Now look, I'm not saying that the CEO of Modena is lying. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying, I don't think he's the most objective source on this topic.

You know, I'll wait to hear what neutral experts say about a new vaccine. People like public health officials or the CEO of Johnson and Johnson. I mean, he's got nothing again because nobody's gonna buy his vaccines either way. the true. th's thu thu's thu's all people, I see people online being like, ah, we're gonna get a new shot every year. There's no one, yeah, yeah, you know what, maybe to not die, you might need to take 15 minutes out of your year. What? Is your life so busy that you don't have time for that? I guarantee you, at some point in the next year, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, that, that, that, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to, to to to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to get, to to to to to to the the the the the the the the to the the the the to the to to the to to the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to the the year you will walk by a CVS unless you live in the desert then it's

going to be like a five-minute walk to a CVS. This is classic capitalism, foundation of capitalism to sell you something you already have right? I mean I just bought the Taylor Swift album the new one yeah it has the same 10 songs from an album she put out 10 years ago. That's the beauty of capitalism. Keep buying. Not that she was trying to, it's a... I bought it. You know who else I feel really bad for it with this whole thing? Nicky Menage's cousin's friends balls because he's got to get another booster. You know? He's gonna be swinging around a little Mazda in his pants. Oh, yeah. You know that wasn't anyway.

All right, let's talk about colonialism. It's basically gentrification but for entire continents. It's been a really long time since the British ruled the world. But the remnants of their empire, well, they still linger here and there, like Galain Maxwell at a cheerleading competition. But yesterday, yet, yet, yet, that, that, that, th. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, th. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, thii. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, that, that that that that that that that that that that that thi, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that that that that that that that that th, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, thii. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, they still linger here and there, like Gailane Maxwell at a cheerleading competition. But yesterday, yet another former British colony announced that they were cutting ties. The island of Barbados is officially a republic.

In a ceremony last night, the Queen's standard lowered for good, Queen Elizabeth removed as head of state, and Barbados swore in its first president. The Caribbean island cutting 400 years of British ties, many British fortunes made from sugar and slavery, Prince Charles on hand to reflect on the island's journey as well. And a different sort of queen honored there, pop star Riana was named a national hero. Well, damn! Riana put up one photo of her butt,

and immediately Barbados was like, all right, we're done with the queen. Riana is our leader now. Meanwhile, the queen was like, Riana, is she the one who married Harry? I mean, you know what this means, right? If the queen wants her colony back, she's got to fight fire with fire. Is this doing anything for you, Bob Bates? You got any regrets now? Look at dead ass. And you know, you've got to feel bad for the British Empire. I mean,

unless your country was pillaged by them and they stole all your jewels and resources. Because think about it. Last year, they lost one black person. And now, they've they've they've they're they're they're their they're their they're their. their. they're their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. their. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. to. to. toe. toee. toe. toean. toean. toean. toean. toeean. toe. today. today. the. the. person and now they've lost an entire island of black people. This inflation is real man. Like what the hell Brandon? Do I do it right? Is that how it works? But you know the story does remind you, it actually does remind you how crazy and massive colonialism was. Like we think of colonialism as this old thing from textbooks but you realize that in 2021 there are still like a dozen countries that have the Queen's picture on their th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation inflation thi inflation is thi inflation is inflation is inflation is inflation is inflation is inflation is inflation is thi thi thi inflation is inflation is inflation is inflation is thi thi thi thi inflation is thi inflation thi inflation thi thi inflation thi inflation thi inflation thi thi inflation th thi inflation th th th th th th th th th thi inflation thi thi their thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thooo in thi thi thi thi thi thi their inflation thi inflation their this old thing from textbooks, but you realize that in 2021, there are still like a dozen countries that have the Queen's picture on their money,

and not like the dope picture. You understand how wild that is? Like, imagine if your ex had so much power over you, that 300 years after you broke up, you still had to have their face on your phone's lock screen. Ah yes, Kelly, how I don't miss her. I also think it makes sense that the Crown is leaving Barbados because for so long their whole economy was sugar and slavery, two things that now we know are bad. I'm sorry, do you say now we know are bad? You know, recently, until recently. Yeah, at least now we know, Michael. At least

now we know. All right, let's move on from the most fun... Sugar will get you, Trevor. Sugar? Yes, you're right. Sugar and slavery and sugar, sugar will get you. All right, let's move on from the most fun place in the world to the least. North Korea. As a dictatorship, North Korea has a lot of arbitrary rules that citizens have to follow. And I mean have to follow. For instance, they're not allowed to listen to foreign music.

They're not allowed to smile publicly on the anniversary of Kim Ilsung's death. And they are not allowed to make their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoeck. thoe, I to to to to to tothey are not allowed to make any international phone calls. Which that last one I kind of agree with. I mean I don't want people from North Korea phoning me and depressing me with their problems. Like I got my own shit to deal with. I've got all this food left over from Thanksgiving. I don't I don't even know where to put it. I'm just saying like we've all got problems you know but just when you thought North Korea couldn't get any more oppressive They announced a new law this week. That's even telling people how to dress North Korea banning leather coats all in an effort to get citizens to stop imitating Kim Jong-un style.

The country's dictator has been sponded on numerous occasions in a cowhide coat. According to Radio Free Asia, the jackets the jackets took off in North Korea after Kim wore one back in 2019. Since then, imitation coats have cropped up across the country. Radio Free Asia reporting there are literal fashion police roaming North Korea looking for anyone sporting a leather jacket. According to an anonymous source, law enforcement in the country is going after companies making imitation coats, as well as anyone they spot wearing one in public. Did they say there's literal fashion police? Because now all I'm thinking of is like North Korea's version of queer eye.

It's like Kim I for the Korean guy, them just walking down the street like, mm-mm, honey, you cannot look that good. This is such a strange story because I always thought that dictators wanted everyone to copy them, you know, think like me, act like me, look like me, dress like me. But then Kim Jong-un, he looked at himself wearing this jacket, and he was like, nobody else is of that goo in the bathtub. Shit, man.

Do I have to... Do I have to return this jacket now? This was a Hanukkah gift to myself. The thing is, he's right, you do look fly in these things, man. Look, you look something comfortable. Look, it's like you said, Trevor, a dictator wants people to copy him. He should be worried about the trends that he's trying to set that no one is copying him on, you know? Like I don't see a lot of North Koreans with his haircut, right? Because no one will say it to his face. Kim Jong, your hair is whack. Your. Okay? Your hair is whack. Your people won't tell you that. Anyways, but this is fly, right? Wilson's leather, Trevor?

You know, Costa, what I love about you is not only the fact that you are so comfortable in that jacket, but the fact that you believe that Kim Jong-un might be watching this show. I think he is. I mean... Trevor, you're a global star, dude. Amen. Thank you for that, I appreciate that.

All right. When we come back, we'll tell you what the government isn't telling you about COVID. You don't want to miss it. It's the truth. The real true. Oh, welcome back to the Daily Show. I didn't think you'd come back. Ever since the pandemic began, COVID conspiracies have been spreading almost as fast as COVID itself. Cove it is caused by 5G. The vaccine has a secret microchip in it. Dr. Fauci's first name isn't actually doctor. Some really crazy things out there.

And now that a new variance has emerged, we're also getting new strains of really stupid conspiracies. So let's hear what people think is really going on in another installment of the pandemic. As of now, it looks like it's going to still be a couple of weeks before we know more about the army cron strain. Things like, does it spread faster? Does it make you sicker?

And is it available as an NFT? But over in Maga world, oh, they seem to already have figured it all out. The emergence of the new COVID variant is sparking a fresh round of conspiracy theories. Former White House doctor-turned MAGA Congressman, Ronnie Jackson, tweeted, quote, here comes the MEV, the midterm election v. The midterm election variant. They need a reason to push unsolicited nationwide mail in ballots.

Democrats will do anything to cheat during election, but we're not going to let them. It defies logic and listen here, unfortunately, it's not just Ronnie Jackson. If it was just Congressman Jackson or Dr. Jackson, we could call him out, but he's getting help on you know where. It's always a new variant. And you can always count on a variant about every October, every two years. Oh, I think it's going they could speed up. The variance could come more quickly. We're going to need a new emergency. My gosh.

Okay, just so I've got the straight, according to this conspiracy, the Democrats' big plan is to intentionally never solve the one problem that is ruining everyone's life. That is such a dumbass strategy to win an election. Which makes me think maybe the Democrats actually did come up with it. Aha! I mean, you realize for this to be true, the Democrats would have had to coordinate on this lie with the World Health Organization and South African scientists and governments across Europe. You serious people, you know the Democrats can't coordinate shit.

Only thinks Democrats can coordinate is their can't take cloths. And it's bad enough to hear this from a congressman. But what's crazy is that before he was in Congress, people forget Ronnie Jackson was the president's doctor, the president's doctor. And not just Trump's doctor, by the way, Obama's doctor too. Yeah, that guy. This just shows you how bad America's health care system.

Even the president was like, you're telling me that he's the only doctor in my network? I mean, seriously, it's amazing that Obama and Trump actually survived. One of them sneezes, and Ronnie Jackson is like, you've got to realign your electrons quick, swallow as many magnets as possible. And by the way, of all the shows, how does Fox and Friends not understand what new variants are? Every four months, Fox and Friends has two totally different dudes and one new woman saying the same bullshit from the same couch.

I mean, if that isn't a new variant, I don't know what is. Hey, but whatever, man. I guess the Democrats, in coordination with scientists in South Yeah, and they're not only doing it to justify mail in voting. No, no, no. It's also because they're really horny for lockdowns. Judge, if they keep testing for different strains of coronavirus, we're going to be locked down for the rest of our existence. I am, you know, I had cancer. My oncologist is a specialist in bone cancer. the know every oncologist who deals with bone cancer Identifies hundreds of coronaviruses inside of our bones. They've created a problem That can never actually be solved so they can justify whatever it is they want to do. I'm sorry what?

Your bones are riddled with coronavirus quick lady you lady, you need to swallow these magnets! Now, what I think, Laura Logan was saying there, is that we'll never stop finding new coronavirus variants when they test us because our bones are full of them. And, and look, this sounded wrong to me, but I'm not a bone doctor. I mean, I am, but... So, we called a top oncologist just to make sure that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we that we were, and that we were, and that we were right, and that we were right, and that we were right, that we were right, and th. th. thi, and, thi, thi, th. thi, th. think, think, think, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, I'm not a bone doctor? I mean, I am, but... So we called a top oncologist just to make sure that we were right, and we were like, hey,

we had a question, but if you crack open a bone, do hundreds of coronaviruses fly out? And she was like, no, and also, why is everyone asking me this question today? So no, people, bones are not filled with coronaviruses. All right? They're filled with milk. Can we call it back and ask what bones are filled with? But according to Fox, now, Democrats are going to force everyone into endless lockdowns.

That's the plan. And the worst part is if Trump was still in office, this variant, which doesn't even exist, would already be defeated. COVID is becoming endemic. It is going to continue to mutate, it's going to continue to evolve. It's all around planet Earth. If President Trump was still in office, by the way, we'd already have modified vaccines to deal with the new variants, which is a great point. Okay, first of all, Stephen Miller, if President Trump was still in office? If? Someone's not a true believer. JFK Jr. will be so disappointed when he hears about this one. I mean, the idea that Donald Trump would have quickly

handled a COVID variant is by far the least believable shit I have ever heard. You're gonna act like we all don't know this man? There's no way he would have handled it. First of all, he would have spent four months denying there was even a new variant. And then he would have wasted six more months saying that the vaccines were on their way, but then also don't worry about it because it's not going to hurt anybody, but also the vaccines are coming. And then he would have gotten Amicron himself. And their. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then is is is is is. And their. And theiron is. And the is. And the is theiron is theiron is theiron is theiron is. And theiron is. And theiron is. And theiron is. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then he's thi. And then he was their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And then. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And he. And is the the the the the the the the the the thin is thi. And is thi. And is th. And is th. And th. And th. And th. And he's. And th. And he was. And he would would th. And he would the the th. And he was the the the thi. real and I beat it. I cut ready chapter so hard I destroyed it and now it cried it cried to me. It said trip where you did it to me, you beat me so today so you today so now it's over. Congratulations to all even the haters and the losers. I mean you can't have a vaccine for a new variant a few days after you discover the variant people, it's impossible.

The only way you could do that is if you had a time machine. And we all know if Trump had a time machine, he wouldn't use it for that. He'd go back in time to hang baby Mike Pence. I'm just kidding. He'd probably use it to warn himself not to have that affair with Stormy Daniels. But then he'd get too horny and end up having a threesome with himself and Stormy Daniels. This is so great! There are fine people on both sides. Very fine people.

Now look, anyone whose brain hasn't been rotted from Fox and Facebook knows that everything these people are saying is bullshit. Armicron is a real variant with real mutations and real spikes on its real proteins. And shit, that's how it works. Democrats are just trying to keep the pandemic going to stay in power. And the best way you can tell that is that a year ago, MagaWold was pushing the exact opposite conspiracy. If it ends up that Biden wins in November, I guarantee you the week after the election,

suddenly all those Democratic governors, all those Democratic mayors will say, everything's magically better, go back to work, go back to school, suddenly the problems are solved. They'll milk it every single day between now and November 3rd. the coronavirus will magically all of a sudden go away and disappear and everybody will be able to reopen. That's all I hear, turn on television, right? COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID, by the way, on November 4th you won't hear about it anymore.

So, COVID! COVID! COVID! This dude was president and he's going to be president again. Now to be fair, to be fair, for a while after the election, we did hear less about COVID, mostly because the news was about Donald Trump trying to overthrow the country. But this really shows you how drastically mega people have changed their conspiracies about COVID over time. I mean, you might even say they had to mutate their propaganda so that it could keep spreading in a new environment. I wonder if there's a medical parallel to the way these talking points are adapting over time.

No. All right, when we come back, I'll be talking to two activists who are making sure that all missing people have the tha-a the the the th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that that that thatu, adapting over time. No. All right, when we come back, I'll be talking to two activists who are making sure that all missing people have a chance to be found. So don't go away. COVID! COVID! Come here, COVID! Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guests tonight are the founders of the Black and Missing Foundation, Natalie and Deryk Wilson. They're here to talk about their fights to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to to to to to their to to to to their their to to to toic activists to too activists tip activists tip activists two their their two tip activists to to to their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their taqaqaqaqaqa.aqa.a.aqa.aqa.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. ta. ta.a. tonight are the founders of the Black and Missing Foundation, Natalie and Derek Wilson. They're here to talk about their fights to raise awareness for black missing persons cases that are often marginalized by law enforcement and media and they're here to talk about their new HBO

Docucus series about this work. Natalie and Derica welcome to the show. Thank you for having us. A lot of people go missing in America every single day. A lot of people know that this happens and it's an unfortunate story. A lot of women predominantly go missing in America every single day. But what this documentary talks about is an issue that I feel started to get a lot of attention around the Gabby Petito case, and that was, why do black women, why do women of color not get the same coverage when they go missing? And this is what this documentary talks about.

This is what your foundation talks about. So let's start with that before we get into the documentary, if you don't mind, the black and missing foundation. What is the work that you do. We are a nonprofit organization and for the past 13 years we have been sounding the alarm that people of color are disappearing at an alarming rate and Derek and I have joined professions. I'm in public relations. She's in law enforcement to bring awareness to these cases because these cases are being swept under the rug. Our community isn't

aware of it because we're not getting the media coverage that's needed to help find these missing individuals. I mean, it seems impossible. You know, when I was watching the documentary, I couldn't believe it when parents were saying, no, police have turned us away. Police have said, your child isn't missing. The person in your life isn't missing. Thek, thii. th th th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's, thi's, thi's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the the the th, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooi. toooooo too too too too too too too too too too too too too too thi. thi. thi As somebody who works from the inside, what do you think is going wrong?

You know, there is a lack of training when it comes to missing-person cases. Quite frankly, they're not taken seriously when our community are reported missing. They're labeled as runaways. Runaways are not receiving the amber alert. There's no sense of urgency. And if you really looked at a flyer today, missing, runaway, the message is not created equal. You know, there really isn't a sense of urgency to share this information for runaways. And so we want to get rid of that classification. We also need to look at the reporting structure. We all know that the first 24 hours are the most critical

moments when someone goes missing and you know across the country a lot of jurisdictions require you to wait 24 hours before you can even file a missing person's report. So there's a lot that needs to change especially when it comes to missing because there's not enough resources dedicated to that particular unit. Let's let's talk a little bit about the resources. I mean, there are people who will say, look, obviously we want everyone found. You know, we don't want anybody to be missing, but at the same time, so many people aren't missing, and so many people have run away, and you know, how do we make sure

that police departments aren't wasting resources on people who aren't actually missing? How do you find that balance the. cases seriously, what are they running away from if they leave voluntarily, what are they running away from and ultimately what are they running away too? We know that children who are on the street within 24 to 48 hours, their proposition for sex. And they have to survive, so they're in the sex trade business, which is a multi-billion dollar industry. It could be any one of us that could go missing, could be snatched or just disappear. And we would want someone to take our case seriously.

It appears even when the police may not take it seriously, the media takes it seriously. You know, you'd always watch these stories of missing people, you know, a missing girl here, a missing boy there, that you'd always see these stories that would get media attention. However, time and time again, many people, tha tha tha tha tha tha thiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe, thi. thi. We would would thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And we would thi. And we would thi. And we would thi. And we would thi. And we would thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. It, thi. It thi. It's, thi. It's the, the, the. It's the. It's thea. I thea. I thea. I thea. I thea. I thea. I thea. And, thea. And, thea. And, the.there, that you'd always see these stories that would get media attention. However, time and time again, many people in America, many people in African American community, many people in native communities have said, guys, we don't seem to get that attention. The media doesn't cover us for days. We don't become front page news in that way. As two people who are working on not just the issue, but the PR side of the issue, what do you think that is?

Why do we not see black girls who are missing being covered for weeks on end on major news networks? Well, from a PR perspective, again, it's changing that narrative and ensuring that our missing our household names too, and that's the piece that's missing. We're not saying that other people are not valuable, but can you name any black or missing brown, black or brown missing person that has disappeared? So we can name the Natalie Holloway's,

the Chandra Levy, but can you name the Akia Eggleston? Can you name any person of color? So we have to take these cases seriously. And we need more diversity in the newsroom. We need people to tell the stories that look like us. So, you know, obviously, you know, media companies and these executives, they've been asked these questions and they say, no, look, race has nothing to do with it. We're merely telling the stories that our viewers want to pay attention to

because at the end of the day, we are trying to make people watch our show. When they say that, it seems like they're shifting the blame to the audience and saying society doesn't have an interest in finding black and brown girls. Do you think that argument holds any weight? Well, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th think I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, that, the a thooe, tho-a' tho-a' tho-a tho-a thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes thoes tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho that is that, that is that, that, that, that, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th think that that argument holds any weight? Well I think again that the decision makers are deciding what society wants to see.

They're not asking us or anyone out there. These families, as you can see in the documentary, they are desperate. You know, they, missing persons isn't a black issue. It's not a white issue. It's an American issue. And even in the documentary, you see these families. We're out there with them distributing flyers. You know, the Natalie Holloway, the Lacey Peterson's, the Chandra Leavis, the Gabon, the Gabon Petito, they have people coming in droves, and flying all over the country to to to to to to to to to the country, the country, to the country, the country, to the country, the country, the country, to the country, the country, to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their to help search. And we can't even get law enforcement to take the cases seriously. We can't get the media to shine a spotlight on these missing individuals. So if not us, who?

What I appreciated in this documentary as well is you see the effects of not treating the, you know, the cause but going after the symptoms in that oftentimes people will talk about fighting sex trafficking, you know, fighting these rings that are taking young girls from everywhere, as you say, black and white, and then putting them into prostitution forcefully over, whatever it may be. And yet, if they started looking early enough, they may find them before that becomes the case. Absolutely, I mean, that is our message to be a a a that becomes the case. Absolutely, I mean that is our message to be proactive and we are hoping that the docu series is a call to action.

We know what the issues are so how do we move forward to address it? So this does not continue to be a pandemic because it is a pandemic impact in our community but how can we move forward to make it better for everyone else to you know generations to come? And what are the forward to make it better for everyone else, you know, generations to come? And what are the steps to move forward? When you look at concrete things that we can do in society, whether it's the police, whether it's the media, etc. what are some of those things that we can do to try and alleviate this problem? Well, one, the media can start covering our cases, and we say less is more, less of one, less, less, less, less, less, the the the the the the the the the tha, and less, and less, and less, and less, and less, and less, and less, and less, and the the the the the tha, and the the the the the the the the the thiaqqqqqa, thiaqaqaqaqaqa, thia, thia, thia, things, things, things, things, thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, things, thia, thing, things, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, isa, particular race, less equal playing feel and cover more

stories. Don't wait until it trends, help it to be a trend. And law enforcement, we want to challenge them to look at the way they classify these cases, which really impacts the resources that they add to the case. And we want our community to get involved. We are fire starters and we need them to work alongside us to help find and bring our missing home. So there's so much work that we all have to do and visit our website at BAMFI.org. See who's missing. Like these cases, help them go viral and share it within your network.

We're calling for our community to be that digital milk carton. Share this, you know, let's face our own biases and share these profiles. Because someone knows something out there and we need that someone to come forward to help us end this nightmare for these families. I love that. Let's create those digital milk cartons.

Well, Natalie, Derek, thank you so much for joining me on the show. And congratulations on telling a story that I think many people definitely need to hear. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Black and Missing is available on HBO and HBO Max. We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. Well, that's our show for tonight for tonight for tonight for to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the show the show the show the show our show for tonight, but before we go, today is giving Tuesday. So please, consider supporting Choose Love. They work to provide refugees and displace people

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