The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Precap | Michael Kosta on Trump's Nobel Snub, and Proper Protest Attire

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

This week's host Michael Kosta joins Daily Show writer Zach DiLanzo to break down all the news they missed, and preview the week to come. They dig into Trump's Nobel Peace Prize campaign fail, Time Magazine's unflattering flattery, the short deployment of overweight Texas National Guard troops, what to wear to a protest, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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daily show host to preview what's coming up and recap some of the news we might have missed. I'm Zach Delanzo, a writer here at the show, and I'm joined by Michael Costa. I forgot your name for a second. Michael Costa, this week's daily show host. It's exciting, and I'm here with my co-host. Co-host for the week.

Walter. Walter, your dog, Walter. But he, the subway ride in stressed him out, so he's asleep. That's a, yeah, he's chilling. He's chilling. He's one of our beloved office dogs. He is. And he's,

At times a grump. No, 100%. But when he does show you affection, that sort of, it feels so special. You know, I grew up with golden retrievers, and I always thought they were the best breed, but they're really sluts. Yeah, you know what I mean? You can everybody. They let anybody pet them.

They'll let anybody pet him. Walter, you got to earn it. Yeah. And even if you've earned it, he sometimes is mean. Like, we had wine and dine him. You got a wine and dine him. We had some family friends staying with us. and they made a lot of leeway with Walter

and he was laying on their laps and letting him the next morning it was like reset he he bit one of them and they're like but we hung out yesterday it doesn't mean anything it doesn't mean anything no it's like the daily show every day you start as a new day

new new day and I truly can't remember what we did the previous day because it doesn't matter which is actually freeing it is hey feel free to write a terrible joke yeah because it hey feel free to perform a terrible joke tomorrow you'll be doing this shit again anyways.

And I feel so strongly when I do write a joke that this is a good joke. And then I'll sometimes look at previous jokes and I'll be like, oh, man, I understand why you didn't go with that one because it wasn't very good. Right now we're in a working dark week, which is like a rare thing we do occasionally a few times a year where we're coming into the office. But we're not doing shows. We're just prepping stuff. But because of that, we're also missing a lot of fun news that we'd otherwise certainly

cover on the show. That's true. Is there anything? But sometimes these dark weeks, you're like, God, I wish the show was on. No, totally. You know, like when that, I think it was the strike when that submarine exploded. Oh, yeah. And I was like, this isn't funny that people are dead, but come on. There's stuff here.

Yeah, there's material in my, yeah. You know, and this week, I'm kind of like, okay, it's a news week. I'm not, I'm not like itching that the show is on. There hasn't been the one very special thing that everybody's talking. about that. Or it's a very serious thing that you're like, hey, maybe it's better for let the serious people cover this now. I will say the there's been some, well, first of all, there's still a government shutdown, which is sort of like an ongoing story that you can kind of talk about, but it's just people arguing about whose fault it is. It's not really a sexy story.

It's not. You know, and the other thing I've noticed with this government shutdown, even the newscasters are like, we've done this before. Yeah. You know, and they put up a graphic of all the other times with Clinton and Obama and Bush. So it is kind of hard to mind this. Yeah, what do you say about like, well, it's day 16 now? Yeah.

I mean, I found the Christie Nome video, the airport video, interesting. I don't know if you saw that. She basically said, we're trying to keep you safe, but the Democrats have shut the government down. And they want her to air that at all the airports. And some airports have said, no, we're not doing that. So that's kind of an interesting new government shutdown story. Yeah. They have access to like all of the websites.

So I know that like if you go to like the HUD website, they're like, we'd love to be open right now. We know how much you guys love the HUD website, but we are, but they just have some message up that's blaming Democrats. So there are certainly, this administration, I'd say, really loves to make little videos. Well, let me tell you this, Zach. That's a violation of the Hatch Act to a federal law. Oh, right. Since 1939. We've learned about the Hatch Act.

You are not allowed, if you're a civil servant. Right. You're not allowed to politicize or use politics in a harmful way. It's against the law. Right. Now, here's the big question. This administration has done a lot of that. Yeah.

And what is going to happen? But they should never be able to do that. Right. Oh, I remember from the first administration learning about, it's one of the many things we learned about that existed that no one was familiar with. But yeah, the Hatch Act. And, yeah, do they, I guess they should. of outlined a punishment. I mean, it's like, you know, we had,

I've been fortunate enough to interview Secretary of the Interior on the show, Department of Energy Secretary, Jennifer Granholm, you know, and they always say to you, they're acting in their official office duty, so they can't get into politics with you. It would be a violation of the Hatch Act

if you said like, Trump, huh? Because they'd be like, no, we're officially government. officers. We can't do that. Serving the public. Right. But then you watch this video or these websites where they blame the Democrats and you're like, I guess one thing the Trump administration

is doing really well is testing all these boundaries and we have to American people have to like enforce this shit somehow. Right. Yeah. It's also just like a nut like flying already sucks enough that you have to like go and see Christy Gnome like being mean.

I'm already going to get this wine open. that I didn't even know was in the bottom of my bag, confiscated. Why do I have to watch a video of Kristina? Anyways, I guess, so yes, the government shut down. There isn't, it's not like a super comedy heavy subject. No, it's sort of boring. Yeah, there's little moments, little arguments that have been happening with Mike Johnson,

but it's, how do you, how do you all as writers tackle those like what seems to be boring subjects? I don't know I guess we try to figure out I guess we have a meeting where we try to figure out a comedic thing Yeah but I mean it's There's always a way to Shift it into something funny

Our research team will Do a good job of finding like a juicy Video of like Because it's all about Right now it's just everybody making little videos Democrats are making videos Blaming Republicans We're hoping it's making this so

We have that The story that I thought was pretty fun this week was, well, Trump, I guess, he didn't win the Nobel Prize. Right. And he's very angry about that, which is a very funny thing to be pissed off. I know it is. I'm so fucking peaceful. Yeah. But he was kind of putting on like a press blitz for that, right?

He was, like, sort of shamelessly trying to win. The way you, like, try to win an Emmy. Yeah, yes, exactly. Yeah, but I feel like it's like one of those things that the more you, it's not like Mother Teresa campaign to win a Nobel Peace Prize. You sort of, it's sort of like when, like, prom king. Like if you're asking people to vote for you to be Prom King, that's a bad sign. As soon as you want the Nobel Peace Prize, you're not qualified for it.

Exactly. Like the whole point of that. And also part of it was that the, I guess the way that it works is that you have to be nominated like, whatever nomination time closed January 31st of this past year. So he was only president for all the stuff that he did that he's claiming

should qualify him. So it's like just at least give it another show. Anyway, he was very upset about that. And then, I guess it's, but also part of the I can't even foster an argument for

him to have the Nobel Peace Prize. Now, If we accept like his press releases that he's solved all these wars, I mean, I guess you can, I don't even know what wars he's talking about. Yeah, he's always, I've solved, I've stopped eight wars. And I do think it is interesting to watch Trump, you know, this was a big paradigm shift for me that was helpful. I always thought Trump wanted to be at war because the American people. support presidents during war and I was always gone

is he going to get us into war is he going to get us into war and then I realized oh he is a wartime president it's just he's fighting a war here right in the United States his enemies are his enemies are here like the people so I was like he is a wartime

general but he's like traditional American president he's not fighting Russia he's fighting the elite coastal cities or whatever whoever we are Chicago yeah whatever the hell we are so uh speaking of that there is that um there was a photo okay so the context of this is that a few weeks ago pete haggseth had gave this crazy speech to all of his generals right in which he by the way you know those those guys like flew in from around the globe it was like unprecedented

it wasn't like they were in Annapolis yeah no they all were like in active war zones and flew back to see this speech in person that was also televised like they could have Watched it on television. Could have been a Zoom. Could have been a Zoom. Could have been a Zoom. Could have been an email. But they, um, as the main part of this speech was, um, that army men aren't going

to be fat anymore. Right. And then, um, the National Guard, I believe it was the Texas National Guard was sent to Chicago. Right. Um, and there was a photograph of these overweight, right. Military guys, um, like several of them, all unloading stuff. Um, it's also funny.

Like, I, tell my daughter like hey we don't say fat yeah hey like you know if if you see somebody that's large and you need to say something whisper it to me uh but then you just like these leaders are like fat fat fat guys yeah and um here's the picture okay have you seen this photo no now now is this the real photo or did you guys enlarge this photo that's that's that's the real photo and um the internet had a had a bit of fun oh did that's yeah um and you know again again And it's really sort of, these guys are probably nice guys. Of course.

By the way, you have any more bullets those guys can take than me? Yeah, they got the meat suit. They got the meat suit. I want this, I want to be fourth and one. Game is on the line and you need one yard and you give the ball to any of those people and you run fast. Oh, absolutely. This is, yeah, eye formation. And well, yeah, so but as part of that, so this photo came out.

And then they, apparently they sent these guys home, like, after people on the internet were being mean to them. We live in a very petty time. And I think you should be allowed to be fat in being in the army. And also, they shouldn't be in Chicago in the first place. They should be. Also, I don't care if the guy operating an unmanned drone is fat. You prefer it. I prefer it.

Yeah. Because you know those guys know how to really sit. They know how to really settle in. you know another realization of this administration it sucks is that they live online yeah it's all optics it's all online online optics the memes so if this picture goes up and then the internet doesn't respond a different way they would respond differently it's one thing just to remember like they live online everything is online so it's the like online is sort of the worst place to live. Correct.

Yes. So, yeah, we're, yeah, the, it's the swamp. It's horrible. I feel bad for those servicemen and women. And if they're watching this, I thank them for their service. They, they do a lot more shit for this country than I have, other than I do, I, sorry, I got to take that back. I do more than them for this country. But I do appreciate their, no, I'll, when you start as a love. I appreciate those service men and women. if they're watching i'm sure they're big daily show fans and also like they didn't look they didn't look grotesquely obese they just looked like a bigger body type right they're just like a yeah people have a picture of them with their shirts off alan no can we come no um but yeah and it's

like you're you're there are no other jobs where you're allowed to be like hey um we decide we the new the new boss doesn't like fat people and so we're like you guys will have to go home here's Putin we got Putin shirtless we got Putin shirtless wow Putin's doing the butterfly swim stroke

which is a tough swim stroke you know what I'm after seeing this I'm on board with Putin he's good he's fishing something shirtless you know it yeah this suck it sucks that they let those servicemen and women go especially when they talk about merit so much

Yeah. We have no clue the service record of these people. It could be excellent. Right. It could be excellent. And if you're letting them go because their service record isn't, then make that the story. Right. No, nothing is merit-based at this point.

It's all online optics, I think. If they say it's a thing, it's the opposite thing. So if they go merit, merit, merit, you go like, oh, merit. And then it's like, no, it's actually not that. Right. Because it's like Pete Hankseth, I don't think is the most highly decorated. No. I know he's served.

And, you know, we thank you for your service, Pete. We thank him for a service. But he was also just on Fox News like six months ago. So I know. It's not very strange. You know, Gaza, we got, we got a time. I mean, that's the story. Yeah, that's sort of the big, that's the story.

This is the peace deal. So we would certainly cover that. We would certainly cover that. And yeah, it's an interesting, it's kind of an interesting story in the sense that Trump, did he do a good thing? Certainly, anyone, yeah, I mean, I would say that ending and I would say that's a good thing. I think it is, yeah, it is interesting that it is like, I mean, he certainly was involved and that we probably should talk about his role in that. But it is also interesting that it's sort of the first thing that comes up with the story is like, this hellish thing is finally come to an end and like put the context of good Trump or a bad. You know, like, is that, like, everything is political?

Is it a win or, you know? Right. Like, you're almost afraid to say, good job, Trump. Right. You know, say it. Me personally, I think Trump probably wants to turn the West Bank into a golf course. So it's like, it's kind of hard to really go, like, hey, good job, bro. Yes.

I also think there wasn't a whole lot worse it could get. Right. Like it reached the end. Right. But. And I think there's still a lot. The story is still unfolding. Correct.

Correct. Correct. What will happen? But I mean, I hope any American president is constantly trying and working to bring more ceasefires and peace to the United States. We have like incredible leverage as a country over the, and it's a shame it didn't happen sooner. But it seems like a good thing. and good for him for Yeah, you know, he didn't,

he seems like he cared about it in which case, I'll say it. Hey, Trump, nice job so far with this maybe, maybe ceasefire. I feel like, keep it up. Dedicate yourself to peace from here on out, at home and abroad. Yeah.

And maybe you get that award. You know what, you know what ceasefire, I'd love to see him work on next? Yes. The political violence ceasefire in the United States of America. Oh, that would be beautiful. Yeah. Nice job, Costa.

Nice. good take that's what we would have done on the show but sadly we're in a podcast room with a sleepy dog so yeah we would have to cover Gaza we'd have to cover that obviously we would yeah I'd say on the show there's always a half to cover yeah and like this is this has got some juice and it's just going to be fun to talk about and I feel like Gaza

would just be a half to cover do you think we would cover like the poppy Kim Kardashian's thong thing I don't know Because we kind of used to do some of that stuff. We used to, like, be a little more. I feel like maybe you could work it into a joke without making it a news story. Kim Kardashian released in the under. God, this Gaza ceasefire thing is hairier than Kim Kardashian's.

Pube song. Can you pull up the picture of that? Pube thong. She's good at getting people to. We're talking about her. Yeah. Huh. I mean, I guess, why not?

I guess you just look extra naked then, you know what I mean? mean i'm afraid that my pubs are so big you wouldn't even know i was wearing that right no i feel like i was going to say many fans are expressing confusion over the product that's oh there's white ones as well that's cool that's cool for all ages all ages a santa yeah all right whatever you know this is fashion they don't it's the same they don't make a man's brief well i'll tell you what i wouldn't mind one of those but the hair is on the back side. Yeah.

You know what I mean? You just wear it backwards. I don't think we would cover that. No. Another part of these, I don't know if it was because of, I think it's because of the ceasefire. Trump was on the cover of Time magazine. Did you see that cover? No.

Speaking of funny photos, Trump was on the cover of Time magazine. He loves being on covers of Magazine. And he was, he, it's, it's from an unflattering act. angle and he even truth socialed about it um a bit of a neck vagina um people have been wow and so he he was even like guys come on it's a little bit of a troll it could be like a triumphant angle in a way that's like you know he's like his he's asking the glory of the ceasefire but it's a it's a it's a tough angle the way that I would see this is time is giving him that like

dictator shot I mean that go watch like some of these guys' speeches they were shot from that angle so they might be giving a little bit of that are they truly trying to be complimentary here do we feel

was there were they're like let's find the bad picture of him and be petty about it yes this doesn't this doesn't paint him in a I mean biologically speaking as a man yeah you do get a little

hard looking at that neck but thanks for saying biologically speaking you know it's just it's you know it's not a political thing i don't love making fun of you all you all done dude you want to come over here but the body shaming yeah i feel like as liberals were like we shouldn't be fatphobic we shouldn't make fun of people well especially when there's so fucking fat ass trump well no i always you know when uh look i'm no uh i'm no saint i've certainly made fun of rfk juniors voice yeah i've i've taken those jokes and i've done them but i try if we have time in the rewrite room and again i'm not patting myself in the back i try to say you know Mitch mccana was an easy

one to make fun of and i always would say there's plenty to make fun of this person about the character of the person let's make fun of that yeah and it's also like i mean the character they have some control over yes yes it's just so tempting and it's so tempting and you got a daily show And the show's, we got to be on the air in one hour and we got to go. I mean, I think time is kind of trolling Trump. Yeah, I feel like that seems like they would. What did Trump say about it? One would think that, yeah, I don't know if I guess his team didn't have any control over what.

The magazine wrote a relatively good story about me with the picture, maybe the worst of all time, capitalized. They disappeared my hair and then had something floating on top of my head that looked like a floating crown, but an extremely small one. Really weird. I never like taking pictures from underneath angles, but this is super bad. picture and deserves to be called out why are they doing this and why yeah i mean it is i i think they're kind of trolling them yeah i did yeah you know this this this this is going down as long as it continues to happen it's going to go down as a positive moment in the trump presidency right so i do think the media shouldn't be afraid to say good job we have a ceasefire uh i noticed yesterday

and this is something we could definitely make fun of on the show it was like okay but what's next what's next it's like hey if a good thing happened let's like we can celebrate it yeah you know so good on him good on him yep um what else we got well we got some things we can look forward to we can get to the forecasting of stories that we probably won't actually cover because probably something crazy will happen yeah as it often does but um there's a no kings protest this weekend in new york city i'll be going to that um and and i should mention go to no kings dot org And you can see thousands of No King's protests all around the country. Wow.

And again, what's cool about this, ladies and gentlemen, this is not partisan. So scroll down a little bit, Alan, you'll see the map. Look at this. Wow. Isn't that crazy? A lot of dots. So this is nonpartisan. This is...

There's one in Mexico. They've got them all around the globe. Oh, this guy was drunk. Whoever put these dots on here. So, also I recommend, and this ties into the government shutdown, I just re-read the Declaration of Independence, which when you go to the National Archives website, the first pop-up is like,

we're closed because the government shut down, which I thought was interesting. But you can still read the text. Like 80% of the Declaration of Independence is bitching about the tyranny of the English king. And I do think it's really... The whole thing was that. I mean, more or less, it's like we're all...

Yeah, exactly, exactly, correct. But I just hope Americans realize the foundation of this country, truly, the foundation document before the Constitution is we don't want your fucking kingship get this shit out of our face

you don't have to be Democrat Republican Green Party Ralph Nader that's just a foundation of this country we want to be able to elect representatives that's why we threw a bunch of tea into the That's why I threw tea Yeah we want to not have to house your troops

We want to have a trial by jury want to have a fair trial all this shit anyways If you support that that's happening this Saturday in a city near you. Oh, this isn't because there's been a few, right? There have been previous

No Kings protests and I don't know when the last one was but I'm hoping they do these frequently. What's your vibe at a protest? Sign? No, I wear one of those Kim Kardashian thong things, yeah, yeah.

That's a good question. I haven't really thought about my wardrobe yet. It's like perfect weather for really anything including marching marching to defend your liberties yeah your liberties i now that we're talking about i i almost want to dress as a king and then have people kind of like beat me up or something yeah talk about yeah that's the kind of thing that gets me excited they um groups of people kicking the shit out of yeah yeah this is an easy one in my opinion to get behind.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, some, some certain marches can get hyper-specific, but this one's pretty, uh, should be something most people can get behind. I think so. What else is going on? What else we got? We got the NBA beginning. Are you a basketball guy? Uh, I like basketball.

That's, that's not circled on my calendar. Um, yeah, I feel like I don't start paying attention really to basketball until the new year. Um, baseball playoffs happening. Maybe sometimes we do sports on the show. We've got a little sports war segment. Baseball's heating up. Are you a baseball guy? I'm a Tigers guy.

They lost. Yeah. They're out. But I do like baseball. October baseball is fun. October baseball. I know. I like, I like watching pitching.

I like watching how they make the ball do weird things. Oh, yeah. That's cool. How did you do that? Yeah, I'm a Phillies guy. They also lost first round. And it is at a point in my life where I can really watch my teams. I can't.

Yeah. When I was a younger man, I could just watch sports six nights a week. Oh, yeah. It was on in the background. If you have a family or people that love you, it's hard to really commit to sports. Yes, yes. There's also the big mayoral debate in New York City. Yeah, I probably will watch that.

Yeah, that'll be interesting. Somehow Cuomo lost the primary, but is back. He's back. And Eric Adams is not running again. Yeah, and apparently, I guess he gave a speech to, like, a bunch of his staffers and was like, I got an amazing new job, but didn't say what it was. Who, Eric Adams? Yeah. He's like, he's like, this is something that's like just as cool as being the mayor, which seems like, unless he's bringing those staffers with him, it's sort of like a weird thing to be like, hey, weird flex.

Things are going good for me. I think he's going to want some ambassadorship under Trump. Yeah. Seems like he's a Trump guy. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like there was some sort of, like, get out of the race. And, um, um, but Mamdani, I was reading, I guess we did an interview with Fox News. He's like trying to, you know, something Democrats will do, appeal to people that aren't on the race.

Yeah. I'll tell you what. My friends that don't live in New York City have a lot of opinions about Mom Donnie. And I'm like, holy shit, guys, this is crazy that you care this much about like, yeah, I've gotten like, The grocery store thing is like, he wants to open up a public grocery store. It's like, hey, man, like, I'm paying like $9 for a can of beans if someone wants to. It's just funny that everyone has an opinion about New York City, but as soon as you tell them that Kansas City sucks, they think you're like an elitist. Yeah, we, yeah, I got to start ripping on another city.

Yeah, they, they're very, they're very not afraid to make fun of New York City, so. Whoever's running Topeka, Kansas suck. fucking sucks okay let's do a segment called the daily show and tell oh i like this what do we do um you're gonna tell you're gonna show us or tell us something that you've watched red listen to argued about something that's just been on your mind lately that you've liked hated you know just something well i i shared earlier you know i i did some some fun reading on the hatch act yeah i know that's You've been reading it up. That's actually, yeah.

That's, I, I just kind of like that stuff. Yeah. I like that our previous politicians and authors of our government thought of this stuff. Right. Hey, we can't have people using politics in a position, in a civil servant position. But what's interesting, most interesting to me is how do we enforce it? Yeah. And let me just share with you.

Some therapy lessons. Creating boundaries is one thing. Enforcing the boundary is another thing. So when I say to my family, hey, I'm not offering tickets to anybody for my stand-up show because it gets too complicated because you guys all change your mind all the time and then you need a friend of a friend wants a ticket. And they go, oh, okay.

But then enforcing the boundary when I get 900 phone calls in a text that says, but my cousin's friend's brother wants a ticket. Enforcing is hard. Yes. Enforcing the boundary is hard. And as a country, I think we have created... That's where we are. We've created good boundaries.

Yeah, right. Constitution, Bill of Rights, laws. There used to be a shame motivator that sort of has gone away. Or, yeah, the shame is not really an enforceable... Right. You know, we need to enforce our boundaries. So that might not have been a fun, cute show... daily show and tell. But that has what's been, that has that, but that is what's been on my mind

lately. Should I read the, how long will it take me to read the Hatch Act? I didn't even read the Hatch Act. Oh, okay. I just read about the Hatchacks. Okay, cool. That's what I'll do. Yeah. No, I've, I've, yeah, yeah, I've, yeah, I've, yeah, I remember that being a thing. Maybe I'll give that a thing. Maybe I don't even know what that is. Um, I think, maybe, I think that's to do with gifts, maybe. Oh, yeah. That's the other thing, like, with these fucking Supreme Court justices with their gifts. The RVs. It's like, okay, we've created a boundary, but there's no real enforcement of anything. Well, they don't even have a, they don't even have a code of ethics.

They write their own code of ethics. That's nice. Yeah, that's nice. I love the, like, Texas billionaire. His name is Harlan Crow, which is such like a really funny, funny name. Like if you read a screenplay and the villain's name was Harlan Crow, you'd be like, well, it's a little too gimmick. Yeah, we'd soften that a little. Okay, well, I, um...

What's your show and tell? I don't know. My show and tell is going to be this movie. Yeah, let's talk about... I know. Hatchack was kind of boring. Hatchack, hatchack really. What's the movie?

I saw this movie maybe a few months ago. Me and Kibuka, who's another producer here. Yeah. Yeah. Went to see this Japanese movie called Cloud. It's sort of this like guy gets involved in this sort of like e-commerce scam. And then these like people sort of like try to come to her. hurt him and it but it's very funny it takes all this sort of interesting terms and that kind of

was making me think of um that weird adam sailor movie punch drunk love oh yeah where he he he gets like in in over his head yeah yeah over his head with this phone sex operator yeah i need to get i i was like did you have you seen one battle after another no but that's been on my list i i i enjoyed that i was going to that that was i thought about making that my show until then i was like everybody's sort of heard about that movie. So I like movies where people kill bad people, like vigilante shit. Is that what I'm getting into? Because I do want to see it.

People, I guess people are complaining. Like, I like movies where someone does something wrong. Right. Even if it's small, like cuts an old lady in the grocery store. And then someone gets to kill that person. It's not quite that. But it's, there are like, there is like people that are set up to be bad guys that eventually, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's warring.

factions and stuff and there there is sort of like a political backdrop to it i guess some people on the right are upset about because um there's like a um left wing revolutionaries thing um which actually there was this um podcast a great podcast about like the weather underground are you familiar with the bill aers and like all these like revolutionaries in the 60s who were like bombing government buildings to protest that the vietnam war and then like living in the this underground there's and i think the podcast is one of these people's kids made the podcast about wow um their mom highly recommend sort of a there's so much american history you aren't taught in public school and that was that's true um interesting so that

that can be another one of my show and tell and then there's a movie um with alan help me out river phoenix is in it i believe and it's about and it's about like them living in the underground and this like young boy wants to um i think it's called running on empty okay running on empty thank you allan i'm amazed alan's that um that is also like is a fun companion watch to one battle after another and an even funner companion piece to the hatch act which i also have made wait uh go back to the description of running on empty they're living in the underground and this teenage boy is sort of like dealing with like wanting to actually have his own life and not like running from the government. Okay. In 1971, Arthur and Annie Pope blew up a napalm lab to protest the war ever since they've been on the run from the FBI. They choose their lives.

Well, it's funny you say this because I went to Vietnam and I went to the American War Museum, which is what they call it, by the way. You don't go to Vietnam War. and that blew me away that it wasn't called the vietnam war it makes sense right of course it's called the american war we were on their yeah like we showed up there yeah uh and there is a really really heart wrenching extremely sad napalm exhibit oh my and it is wild and after you see the pictures and the medical uh consequences and you think you're done with it i mean you're crying you're watching like you see all that our country did do yeah it's so terrible that we like through liquid fire on their crops their homes their kids it's terrible

then as you leave that exhibit there's a bunch of napalm victims who are alive or are um children of napalm victims and they're all they're all messed up physically and they're standing there and they're at the thing and like they're asking for donations and they're also just there as like a final like see how fucked fucked up this is. Yeah this was fucking real and it happened

not that long exactly and like there's still birth defects that occur still to this day because of it wasn't there like Agent Orange? Yeah agent orange I think is what yeah anyways positive thing to end this podcast on but interesting too

yeah no it is it is there is like when you're traveling and you you know I went to Germany with the Holocaust Museum. It is like there's a certain, like, heaviness that you feel that you should engage with, like, and, and you got to read the Hatch Act. You got to read the Hatch Act. No, but as a human, we need to be, we do amazing things and we do terrible things and we need to cover both of us. Yeah, no, no.

And it is like, you feel like you're doing your due diligence to, like, engage with these, like, insanely dark things. Yeah, it's insanely dark things. Anyways, I'm hosting next week, ladies and gentlemen. It's going to be a dark. It won't be this dark. All right, that's our time. Costa, we learned a lot today. Let's save something for the actual show, though.

I'm Zach Delanzo. Hey, write some funny stuff next week. You always do. I always read the jokes and I go, that's a Zach joke. Yes, thank you. Usually my initials are after it, too. That's true. It does sound that you've signed it.

Thanks, Costa. Thank you, Walter. Thanks for all the help pre-capping for us. today and yeah check out the daily show hosted by michael costa this week thanks everybody talk to you later bye explore more shows from the daily show podcast universe by searching the daily show wherever you get your podcasts watch the daily show weeknights at 11 10 central on comedy central and stream full episodes anytime on paramount plus this has been a comedy central podcast