The Daily Show: Ears Edition - The Precap - Ronny Chieng on Escalator Conspiracies and Whether American Chaos is Fun

Episode Date: September 29, 2025

This week's host Ronny Chieng and Daily Show writer Matt Koff preview the week to come, which may or may not include a government shutdown and/or a societal shutdown to welcome a new Taylor Swift album. They also weigh in on the headlines, including Trump and RFK's Tylenol announcement, whether the UN should move to avoid New York traffic, and if it was Epstein's ghost that stopped Trump's escalator. If you want to think critically about the news you consume, check out Ground News through our link: http://groundnews.com/ears You’ll get 40% off their Unlimited Access Vantage Plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in visit td.com slash small business advice to find out more or to match with a td small business banking account manager You're listening to Comedy Central So we're, this is it. I guess this is it. Okay. Hello. Hello.

Hi, Ronnie. Can I say hi? Are you hosting this? I think I'm hosting it, but it's not an interview. Oh. It's a conversation. I think this is a cold open. Okay.

Okay. Hello. We're in the middle of a cold open. Shut up. Okay. Now I drop the card. All right. Hi, welcome to the pre-cap where we sit down with this week's daily show host to talk and preview what's coming up and recap some of the news that we may have missed.

I'm Matt Koff. I'm a writer here at The Daily Show. And I am joined today by Mr. Ronnie Chang. Thank you. You look like a writer at the Daily Show. Well, I am. Good. Yeah. You have, I don't know if you grew into this or you got hired because of this. Well, I mean I can write. Sure, but you also look like you can write. What does that mean?

Do you know what I mean? I have a beard. I have a beard. You have glasses. You're wearing a goddamn hoodie. They gave this to me. Yes, and you're wearing it. You look like a right.

And you got a beard, yes. Yeah, I got a beard. So only writers have beards. You know what you look like. You're cultivating. this image. You've been cultivating this image for like as long as I've known you. I don't know what you mean. Over 10 years. You know what I mean.

My beard grows on its own. I don't ask my beard to make you look like a writer. Yeah, but you look like a comedy writer and your beard helps. Can we just talk about the issues? Sure. Sure. So, Kimmel's back. Great. Yeah. I love Kimmel. Yeah. Do you get, do you know him? Yeah, I know him. He's always, he's, he's, he's, I've been a

guest on his show a few times he's he's honestly a great guy and he's super smart yeah by the way like when you're i did who wants to be a millionaire with jordan clipper oh right and kimmo hosts that and kimmo like he can answer everything really yes if he did the who wants to be a millionaire he could probably win a million dollars every week and not just because they give him the answers yeah he he he's he's actually really smart guy my mom saw you and jordan she was like really surprised that you guys were you did well right yeah wait Is you surprised that we were on it or surprised that we did well? That you did well.

Oh, okay. I mean, you know, you never know. We should have done better. Oh, really? We should have done better. If you watch what we did on it, which I guess you should because it's me, Jordan, and Kimmel. So support freedom of speech and watch our Who Wants to be a millionaire episode on a different network. And we psyched ourselves out of it.

We got pretty high up and then we psyched ourselves out of the answer. Oh, wow. Which is frustrating because we knew the answer, but then we talked ourselves out of it. Oh, okay. That's how we lost. Yeah. So were you raising money for charity or something? I guess so.

Yeah, something. It wasn't to me, which is a bummer. So you don't know. So you need a lot of the answer, but you didn't know what you were raising money for. We knew, but we didn't really care. We were there to win this game. Okay. All right.

Well, listen, Kimmel's back. Are you worried about the Daily Show? Are we allowed to, can I ask that? Am I going to get electric shocked if I asked the wrong question? Who are you talking to right now, by the way? I don't know They just kind of forced me to They said you have to grow a beer

You have to host this podcast Right I can't tell if your overlords Are the Daily Show or the FCC Right now? Anyone who will pay me And not kill me That's my overlord I think like

Am I worried I think I don't even want to talk about this Because I don't even want to put this in the universe But I have a strong suspicion That the president Doesn't watch Basic cable

Yeah yeah And I'm not complaining about that. No, definitely. I think for him, TV is ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox. Yeah, definitely. And everything else is like, what? It's kind of fun. So, like, we just kind of do whatever.

Do whatever. And if he does find out about us, that kind of means we're doing really well. Yeah. Because we've gone super viral. Yeah. He finds out about us, we'll do really well for another week. And then that's it. And then that's it.

But I do, I mean, tell me how you feel about this. Like, I feel like, I feel like, as much as obviously I'm a freedom of speech guy being a comic and having chosen to come to America but I also feel like we did not get into comedy for the job stability

now that's true so when people are like you worry about your job I'm like I was never supposed to have job security I'm basically a circus performer sure exactly yeah so if I want a job security I would have stayed in law that's right so in a way in a way i just feel like we we go as hard as we can every show and then whatever happens happens and totally yeah i don't know if you i mean i i did not get into it

for job security but now i like jobs because now i'm in my four i start when i started out i was in my 20s yeah i was like i'm an artist yes you're an artist and now i'm like i have a mortgage yeah you're in your 50s now i'm in my 70s now i'm in my 70s now and uh social security who knows how long it's going to be around for you look rough your before and after comedy photos are rough you know you have photos of me before i did comedy when i was a before and after uh huh i when i started here i looked way younger and it's it's it's been a little over 10 years it's been a deterioration for sure yeah you oh since you've been here since i've been here has been a deterioration yeah you look exactly the same oh thank you may look better but

As long as you're going to stand by the insult for me, that's fine. I won't take it personally. No. Well, freedom of speech people here. Yeah, right. You could just hurt people's feelings. That's why we're, that's the American way. Yes, American way.

We hurt people's feelings. And if you cry, we, we yell at you for not supporting freedom of speech. Exactly. It's great. It's great. Yeah, okay. So Trump is. We're supposed, we can't just have a conversation.

We have to talk about important things I guess You can't just sit here and insult me For the entire You know Okay Okay Okay

All right So how do you feel about Like Trump just switching teams Now he hates Putin Oh does he hates Putin now Now he hates Putin Or

Does he hate Putin or is he just saying That Ukraine Should win now Before he's on team Ukraine He's on team Ukraine now Yeah It's hard to keep up with

I think Um The logical geopolitical should be respecting people's borders. So, yeah, you should probably respect. I think you should be on the side of the country who's, you should be against the country that is not respecting someone's borders.

I think it's a very basic. So you support Ukraine. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So him switching over, I guess, is a good thing, right? Yeah. Here's what I want to know.

As some, you're not from here. That's no secret. You're not from America. Please don't say that into the microphone. You're, okay. You are from America. Yeah, don't summon ice here. Okay, fine.

We don't want to summon ice into this podcast, and it will be a very different podcast. Yeah. I'll call them off. Imagine 20 minutes of this episode, this one negotiating with ice that. Oh, that would be a great podcast. That would be like podcast history. Do you, are you, how do you feel about Trump? Are you just, because I feel like if you're not from here, maybe he affects you a little less

emotionally? No, I think that's not it. I think for me, I've been, I've had, I have aspired to come to America for 20 years of my life. 13 years of my life. I left when I was 7 and it took me until I was 30 to come back. So what is that? 13 years. And so that long of wanting to come back and wanting to come back to do comedy and getting to do it. Actually getting to come back to America and be on the daily show and do stand-up comedy so for me like I always viewed America with rose tinted glasses and I always excused a lot of its flaws because I just felt like the pros outweigh the cons or it was part of your dream it's part of my dream also maybe there's an idea of like like hey I like it because of the show business like I like back to the future I like

Michael Jordan, I liked Ninja Turtles. I didn't, I wasn't supporting the Iraq war, you know what I mean? And it's very convenient for me to obviously, like, disassociated that. But that's my, my point is that what I like about America wasn't, that wasn't the war stuff. It was the pop culture. That would be weird. And it's the industry I joined. So, so I always kind of viewed it from that lens.

And this year, it has been tough justifying, it's been a little tough, justifying why, you know. I think America is too fun. It is very fun. I think that's the problem. We have a fun president. Yeah. We're fun. There's nobody who's more fun than America.

Yeah. I'm trying to think. Like culturally, you know. We're very chaotic fun. Chaotic fun. That's the thing. I mean, that's the problem. It's like two sides of the same coin.

Yes. Chaotic fun. The reason that you wanted to come here is like the same reason everything is like fucked up. Like, it's just like, it's like, it's like, it's a country that ate too much sugar. Yeah. I mean, I didn't come here for the case. But I've learned to embrace it. Yeah, totally.

I did come here for the fun, but not necessarily chaotic fun. Right. But I guess I take your point. I think the American fund did not use to be this chaotic until the last five years or so. I think it's social media. Yes. It's taken on the... Everything boil over.

It's just crazy. Yes. I think the... Look, we're not coming out with new takes here. No, no, no. Social media is bad. I think the country has taken on this persona of the comment section. comment section.

Yeah, too much. Yeah. You know, and it's like we shouldn't be the comment section. And I actually don't

believe America actually is the comment section. I think if I can say something in defense of America is that I think we, a lot of us are too online

and we take the internet to be the reality of America when it really isn't. Oh, definitely. You know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of shit that happens on the internet that we assume is American,

but it's actually not. Totally. You know what I mean? And not only is it from not American sources. Some of it's not not even human. sources.

Yeah. Some of it's just AI bots trying to cause... Stir up shit. Stir up shit. And then the other aspect, if you really want to have some perspective, is that, like, I think in America we tend to over-index on what's wrong with America because we have this freedom of speech and freedom of press for the most part. And we have these journalism institutions that report on America and how bad it's doing.

Right. And I think we... And they profit from that. Right. And I think we over-index on what is wrong with America a lot of the times. And I think if you want to do an actual serious geopolitical analysis of this country compared to other countries, you can't do that without factoring in what is going well in America and also what's going badly in other countries as well. But because of the nature of our conversations and the Internet and whatever, we just talk about what's bad here and what's great overseas. And I don't think we're talking enough about what is okay here.

like, you know, the liquid capital that exists in America is insane. I think the GDP of America is, like, bigger than the next five countries or something. Don't call me on that. Oh, yeah. We have a huge military. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's good. Sure. I mean, I'm not saying it's good.

Like, we shouldn't use it. Sure. But, I mean, we can afford it. That's good. Right. And, uh, and, uh, I mean, a lot of Americans are poor. Sure. Right.

Again, here we go. Overindexing on what's wrong with it. I'm sorry, America's fine, we're doing great. Yeah, so there's a lot that is going well here. As an immigrant, that's my perspective. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, 100%. I mean, I just, it's just interesting because I'm like, I'm writing for you.

We're talking about Trump, and I'm feeling embarrassed. For the country? For the country as I'm writing for you. And I'm like, I don't necessarily know, you know what I mean? Yes. That was why I was a little bit hard, like writing for Trevor, because I have all these emotional feelings about Trump and like, oh, God, we elected this guy. Yes.

And then I'm writing for a host who's not American. Yes. Your perspective must be like, wow, this is interesting. It just may not hit you in the same way. Yeah, well, well, you're not wrong. I'm just humiliate. No, no, you're not wrong about that because being an immigrant who chose to be here, I need to. Oh, that's true.

Maybe you're dumber. Yeah. Yeah. You shouldn't have come here. I shouldn't have come here. I want to leave. You want to be here. Yeah, I want to be here.

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And then you're just, I'm just like, well, why? Tylernol didn't give him campaign money. I mean, that's, it has to, there can't be much more than that, right? It's all about money. I think, uh, I don't know if it's that simple. I think it's multifactorial, but all the factors are dumb. I don't think there's anything smart about it. I just think the people in charge of the health, what's it called?

The Secretary of Health. Yeah. He has a really anti-science view of the world. Oh, definitely, yeah. And of science. And so he has this weird agenda of trying to connect dots that don't exist. Sure, yeah. specifically between pharmaceuticals and, I guess, autism.

Autism, yeah. And so he just loves any excuse to be like, this causes autism. He loves to find a cause of autism. Yeah, there's that. But then there's, like, Trump just kind of... Goes along with it. Yeah, he goes along. Not only, he really went and, you know, Tylenol pretty hard.

Yeah. Which makes me think that, yes, there's the RFK autism thing. Yes. But then there's like, I got the sense from how many times he's like, don't take Tylenol that there's some personal vendetta. Like maybe he had herpes in the 80s and he took Tylenol. It just didn't work. And he's like, I'm going to get you Tylenol.

Right. Yeah, I think he, I think someone told him, well, RFK Jr. told him, this is my take. Right. And I think for some reason, Trump is like, yeah, okay, I'll sell this take. Let's go. Let's go. And then he just goes. It can only good happen.

Yeah. Yeah. It's very bizarre, but also is it more, it's, it's par for the course. Oh, sure. Right? It's as bizarre as anything. It's like, yeah. It reminded me the bleach thing from the first term.

Yes, the bleach thing. He just loves to get up and spew misinformation. Yeah, about health and science. Yeah, he likes to play doctor too. It's kind of funny. And I don't know what the, I don't know how to stop it. I mean, it's, it's not your job to stop it. Right, it's not.

We're on basic cable, yeah. No, well, I mean, not my job stop, but I don't know what anyone can do about it. You kind of have to ignore it a bit, I guess. Yeah, yeah. You know? I think if you're half the country, hopefully more, you will ignore it. Right. I just, I get.

worried about people who are just like, well, he's the president, so what he's saying is right. Yeah. Like, you know, I just, I don't know how many people have critical thinking skills, but based on the fact that he got in again, I'm guessing not too many. Yes. Does it get old covering Trump for you? Um, you wish that we talked about. I mean, there was a, the producer here Ian Berger had a great take on that. He was like, did you imagine we'd be talking about when you started doing comedy? Did you imagine you would be talking about one guy for 12 years of your life. Exactly.

One guy. Yeah. So does it get old? Yeah. In a way of like, I wish we didn't have to talk about this. Yeah. And I will take a functional country over a, you know, a easy source of comedy any day. Does it get old?

Yes. And then does you always find new angles? Yeah. He always finds a new angle on something. It does feel like he's working. for us in a certain way. He's like, I'm going to bring

an RFK this season. I'm going to hire. Oh, this will be a great, like, six months of material. Exactly. It's just, he really does function like a writer.

He's just pitching stuff to us. Yes, he's great at improv. Yeah, improv. I would say. No teleprompter at the UN. No problem. No problem. No, no telephone, no problem.

He's great at persuasion. Oh, yeah. Very persuasive person. And he's great at Stand-up. He is a master. Yeah. Does it now wherever he beats Josh Johnson.

I mean, in terms of prolific. Yeah. Just barely. Yeah. But he has a lot of followers. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, he went to the UN as well.

Trump went to the UN. Trump went to the UN. Talked a bunch of shit. Talked a bunch of shit. The escalator didn't work. Escalated didn't work. A lot of stuff broke down when he was on it. Yeah.

Which is kind of funny. Yeah, I think it's funny. Yeah, that's a thing. Not only does he do funny things, funny things happen to him. Yeah. He attracts chaos. He attracts chaos. I mean, things kept breaking at the UN and now there's the conspiracy of like, was it orchestrated

or was it just things that the UN are really dysfunction? No, I know. And also, it's like after he's been shot at and all these things, who cares if the escalator has a word? It's a little de-heightening. Right. Like, I'm like, oh, we found the guy who pressed the button. Yeah.

It's tough to beat getting shot at. Yeah. Yeah, if he climbed the non-working escalator and had a heart attack, then we're back in interesting territory. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he went to the U.N., teleprompter broke, escalator broke, and then something else broke? My faith in humanity. So do you think this was orchestrated or? I bet there's some guy who's just like, well, I'm just going to fuck with him a little bit.

Right. Who wouldn't take that chance? Right. You know, give him some gum and his teeth get all black. Well, the other thing is he was there talking shit about the U.N. as well, right? Yeah, exactly. So it's like, you know, if you're going to poke the bear, you know, they're going to be out, okay, well, you know, I think it is. What?

The ghost of Jeffrey Epstein. Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. He lived on the east side, not far from the U.S. He lived on the east side? Yeah. Oh, the ghost of Jeffrey. You never been? To Jeffrey Epstein's apartment, no.

Oh, yeah. I've never been. It was great. A lot of wine. But why would he fuck with Trump? They were, like, friends. Well, now Trump is like, oh, I never knew the guy.

You know, he means nothing to me. Right. This is his like, stop denying our friendship. Yeah, exactly. I mean, he's probably in hell, you know? Epstein? Right. Just like hearing all this mean things.

And he managed to get our hell to fuck him, fuck with Trump in the UN. Listen, I don't know. I don't even believe in God, so I don't know. So, so, yeah. But America, the last couple years, has been very anti-U.N. Oh yeah And America was the one That started the UN

I know So it's I think the UN's moving to Africa Right I read somewhere that Yeah no That's true They're moving out

New York I mean Yeah I hate to see them go But like at the same time I'm like Yeah New York doesn't need

You guys Yeah Do they know Like is it Is it the high plains Like Hopefully it'll be like Good climate

Circumstances for the UN You know Parts of Africa Are not As hospitable I'm about to say something racist, let's go. What, that part of Africa is a desert? That's racist?

Yeah, I think it feels racist. Parts of America are a dead. It feels racist. Hey, you know what? As a New Yorker, 10 years now, this is my 10 year anniversary at the Daily Show and 10 year anniversary in New York. I think I can call myself a New Yorker. Hate to see, love the UN what it stands for, we don't need the traffic here.

That's true. Let's go. Africa, is it racist to say it has a lot of stuff? space that is racist yeah everything you say about africa is racist yes it's great even that i love i love every single person that that is condescending and therefore a little condescending yeah i like everybody from africa you don't hate one person um i don't hate one person from africa no not even one person i haven't met what about criminals what about african criminals they deserve another shot oh wow okay that's condescending what why is it

condescending because you're you're saying that walk them up throw away the key that's good I mean do you have that then I'm incarcerated no this is

I'm trying to I'm trying to get get him in trouble what is this this is a precap this is not I know I don't even know

we're not indicting that cough all right enough living in the past Ronnie you're hosting the daily show this week for I think

is it the first time no you've done it before the fuck so yeah there's a lot of news there's a government shut down that's looming on the 30th. That's tomorrow, Tuesday.

Okay. Do you know anything about that? The government, it's always almost shutting down. It's always almost shutting down. Yeah. That's one way of phrasing it. Yeah. It's almost always shutting down.

That's bad. It is bad, but there's a normalcy to it now. I think also don't the Republicans control every branch of government? Yeah, they do. So how can it shut down? I guess if Democrats put up a fight, I don't know. It's not going to. shut down. Anyway, what's the other thing that's happening this week? Taylor Swift is going to

release a new album. A new album? Good for her. Have you ever met her? No. Okay. No. Are you excited for her and Travis? Sure. Can you just say a nice message to them in the camera? Love Taylor Swift. Love Travis. Travis was a question and the wants to be a millionaire. Oh really? Yeah. Did you get it right we yeah we took a while but yeah we got right it took some deliberating but we got it cool yeah um the question was where is the where where where are the kelsey brothers from what state took a while took a while together what what state oh we figured out oh ohio ohio how did you do you phone a friend because they were white and we were like ohio is the white state yeah and yeah yeah yeah nailed it um okay now we're going to do seven

we call The Daily Show and Tell. What's something you've watched, read, listened to, argued about, or has just been on your mind lately? Maybe like a recipe. Do you have any good recipes? This is such a weird pivot. Well, good recipes. I found a great paleo chili recipe.

Okay. That's great. Shout out to Nom Nom Nom Palio. Nom, Palio. Yeah, look for this chili recipe. It's in a slow cooker. Pressure cooker. It's a pressure cooker and it's paleo,

so there's no processed carbohydrates and anything in it. And what's different from like regular chilling? I don't know. I don't know why it's so good, but it just tastes way better. Like everyone I've made it for loves it. The secret ingredient apparently is Vietnamese fish sauce. Oh, okay.

Interesting. But it's just like a dash. I don't know. All right. So check out nom. Yeah, it changed everything. Check out Nom Nom Paleo chili, please. All right, I will.

You want to eat a bit healthy and you want a simple meal that's one pot. Yeah, I love a one pot. One pot, pressure cooker. You know I've been eating a lot of? Miso soup. Oh, yeah. It's very easy, like you just make it at your desk. Oh, you're doing instant miso?

Yeah. Oof. It's fine. Sure. I can't tell the difference between that and, like, getting it at a restaurant. Oh, okay. You have no palate. I have no palate.

Okay. I could eat dog shit. What's the Jewish biscuit that's really dry that I ate? I ate some reason. Are you talking about matzah? Yeah, matzah. I had that for the first time. Yeah, what did you think?

I was addicted to it. You were addicted to matz? Yeah, I couldn't stop eating it. Was there a crack on it? No, it was just matza with nothing on it. And Dan Radosh was like, hey, you got a, like, you know this is not going to come out of your body well. And I didn't know that. He said it's not going to come out of your body well.

Yeah, he said it's very dry, and so it gives you constipation or something. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Is that true? I don't know. I mean, not every Jew knows about constipation. What about matzah?

I know a ton about matz. Yeah. It's unleavened bread. I don't know how much matzah Daniel Radash is eating to the fact that, like, he's getting serious digestive. Well, no, he was telling me. He was telling me, because I was going to town. on this matzah. Oh, you were?

In the writers, I was like, well, I'm not, I was like, cookie monster with this matza. And he was like, hey, just let you know, like, you know, you should probably watch out

for the, how it, you know, don't overdo it. It's a very supportive workplace here at the daily show. There you go. You're eating, you're drinking miso soup, I'm eating matza?

Yeah. I mean, why can't the world be like this? But we are like this. The world. We are like this. The world is like this. The internet is not. Do you think one day everyone will just be eating matzah, getting constipated together?

Yeah. And then drinking too much miso soup and then having diarrhea, you really think that world is possible? That world, we live in that world right now. All right. I don't know. I don't believe it. What do you mean you're living it? I am?

I am. Yeah. You don't think other people in the world are doing the same thing? No, I, well, it doesn't feel that way. It feels like we are a nation divided a world. You got delete Instagram. You got delete Instagram. That's my, you want me to wreck something?

I recommend this, dumb phones. Dumb phones. Dumb phones and reading. Okay. Read books and get a dumb phone. Any books? Sure. I read, this is a while ago, I read three body problem, sci-fi.

Okay. Very, very life-changing. There I say, believe the hype. It's a great sci-fi series. I don't want to spoil anything, but what's interesting about three-body problem? They made it into a series and we had Rosaline Chau, from the show on Netflix on the show as a guess but I read the book before I

watched the TV show both were great the book I never realized how much of sci-fi for me was Western sci-fi oriented I just assumed that was what sci-fi was and this is sci-fi written by a Chinese guy in China and you can tell this different philosophy

and I don't think this is spoiling anything in the book but Western sci-fi is very much there's a hero who has to save the universe most of the time at its core this Chinese sci-fi this particular one anyway is very much like hey no one's coming to save us

we're all in this together oh wow okay it was a very interesting yeah it was a very interesting change of perspective you know yeah and when you read three body problem you you can tell that it's it's not written by an American in a good way

and Neil Brennan read it and told me he didn't, he couldn't believe a human being wrote it. Oh, interesting. That's how, like... But there is a protagonist, like somebody you identify. There's a few protagonists. It's written from different perspectives. Okay, interesting.

So it's not just one guy for three books. Yeah, okay. Oh, I see. There's time skips. There's different people coming in and out. The overall themes are there. Honestly, it's great. It's a great book.

Okay. Three body problem. Yeah. So read books and get a dumb phone. Okay. Yeah. It's my cure for... Oh, the world right now, I think.

Okay. Great. No one's going to listen to that. Yeah. I mean, do you think anyone's actually still listening to this? No, no. They stopped that when you said Africa. Ronnie, you've been a wonderful guest.

Thank you for having me on a podcast. And I've been a wonderful guest because I don't host this podcast. Okay, so who is hosting this? I don't know, but the door locks from the outside. If you want more Ronnie Hot Takes, I think you're just going to have to watch the freaking daily show. Please. Thank you, Ron.

Thank you, Matt Koff. That's right. You're welcome. Thank you, Daily Show. Thank you, Daily Show. Thank you, Buddha. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, America.

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