The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Tornadoes Plague the Midwest & The U.S. and China Race to Control 5G | Rachel Louise Snyder

Episode Date: May 23, 2019

Over 130 tornadoes wreak havoc in the Midwest, tThe U.S. and China fight over 5G, Ronny Chieng reacts to New York's proposed ban on texting while crossing the street, and journalist Rachel Louise Snyder discusses her book "No Visible Bruises." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for coming out. Welcome to it. Take a scee. Let's get into it. I'm Trabinoa. Our guest tonight is a writer and professor with a powerful new book on domestic violence. Rachel Louise Snyder is joining us, everybody. Also on tonight's show, China is going to own the

internet. New York City wants to look at your texts and Whitney Houston is going back on tour. But first let's catch up on today's headlines. We begin with news out of the Midwest. Recently they have faced a record number of storms, and it looks like it's only about to get worse. Breaking overnight, get out. Emergency evacuations and dramatic rescues after heavy flooding hits the Midwest and the South. An entire region slammed by powerful tornadoes for a fifth straight day. Tens of millions in the danger zone once again. Since the tornado threat began here on Saturday,

there had been 133 reported tornadoes more than 30 just in the last 24 hours. Over 130 tornadoes in five days. That is terrifying. Oh, mostly because tornadoes are the worst natural disaster. Like, they're super destructive, and it feels like they make it personal, you know? No, because like hurricanes and floods affect entire regions. A tornado just wants your house.

This flies in like, wah! And then you're like, what about my neighbor? No, no, no. 130 tornadoes. That is insane. I also feel bad for the land of Oz. thia, thia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, torne, too, too, torned, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, tornadoes. That is insane. I also feel bad for the land of Oz. They probably got houses dropping on them maybe 15 minutes. Yeah, it's just which funerals up there 24-7. And I get killing the wicked ones, but at some point it's just which genocide. Let's be honest people. And look, when you see this many tornadoes in this amount of time, climate report came out saying that things are getting worse. Sea levels could rise by six feet by the end of the century, which means cities like New York and Miami could be underwater.

Yeah, it's really bad news. Statistically, the only person that will survive that is Shaq. That's it. Just him by himself. Yeah. He'd be like, I know the whole world died, but the fact that Charles Bockeley has gone made it all worth it. But let's move on from real tornadoes to a human tornado. Last night, a woman in California led police on a car chase in an RV. Now luckily no people or animals were hurt, but please brace yourselves for one of the craziest

things you've ever seen. A wild police chased near Los Angeles last night. th. then. then. the the th. the the the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their the yourselves for one of the craziest things you've ever seen. A wild police chased near Los Angeles last night involving a stolen motor home. A woman behind the wheel crashed into a parking lot tree, ripping off part of the front end of the windshield. She also hit several cars during the chase. At one point, a dog could be seen hanging out of the open windshield before it jumped out. It all ended when the motor home hit the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tholole the the thoomomomomomom home the the thoom hits thoom hits thozy thozy thozy thozy the the. At one point, a dog could be seen hanging out of the open windshield before it jumped out. It all ended when the motorhome hit a car. God dare! I was like a grand theft auto mission in real life. When I saw that I grab my control by instincts and I've got to get this to the warehouse before

the mess blows up in the back. Come on. Like, I'm surprised that everyone was fine when they walked away from this th. And th. And th. And th. And it th. the the the the the the th. their their their their. their. their. their. th. th. th. thi. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoome. tho. tho. the. thoome. thoes. thoes. thoes. I'm, thoes. I'm, tho. I'm, tho. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. Goa. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, th. It's, the. It's, the. It's, the. It's, t t t t t t too. It's, too. It's, too. It's, tooea. It's, toda. I's toda. It's today. I's today. I's today. It's they walked away from this thing, and it's crazy to watch an RV causing all that chaos. Because it's basically a high-speed chase that you can follow on Zillow, you know? You're just like, oh shit, look at this. Two-bedroom. Now it's a one-bedroom. Like, you realize this was so insane that even the woman's dog was trying to escape. Like that's when you know you've gone too far, when your dogs trying to abandon you. Yeah, because dogs are right or die. I've seen homeless people with dogs.

Dogs will stick with you through thick and thin. That's why we love them. But that dog was like, all right, I know two things. Peanut Butter is delicious and this bitch is crazy. I'm out. I'm out. In other news, Washington State. It's the state with legalized pot, assisted suicide, fans in the audience. And now, a new way to get rid of your body. Washington State is now the first in the nation to allow composting of human remains. Governor Jay Inslee signing the new law on Tuesday. The remains are mixed with wood chips and other material and then turned into soil. It's an alternative to regular burials or cremation.

Lawmakers say those methods are bad for the environment because they release chemicals and carbon. Wow, I like how this is the newest way to go green. Just throw your relatives in the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the new the new new the the the the the the new the new new new news the new the the the the the the the the the the the new the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the new the the the the the the the the the the the new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new.eat.eat.eat.eat. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. new. how this is the newest way to go green. Just throw your relatives in a ditch. Yeah. That's some next level recycling. I mean, now we've got paper, plastic, and grandpa. Nice job. Nice job.

Seriously, though, this is a cool idea. Instead of polluting the earth with a burial, or polluting the sky with the cremation,the sky with a cremation, you can just create compost. Right? You just create compost. Is that how Americans say it? And you can use it to grow a vegetable garden? And then when you have people over for dinner, they'll be like, this is delicious. What's your secret? You can be like, oh, it's Phyllis. That's what it is. And I'll be honest, I support this. I think I thap I to to to to to support. I support. I support. I to support. I support. I to support. I to support. I to support to to to to support to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support. I support I support. I support I support I support I to to th. I the. I to to the. I to to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to grow to to grow to grow to everyone should have the right to choose how they're going to be buried. That's why when I die, I want to get buried in a McDonald's ball pit. Yes. I like to bring joy to children. Makes life interesting. And finally, in entertainment news, if you don't like being buried or turned into compost after you die, technology is giving us another option.

Whitney Houston fans could have an opportunity to see the late singer in concert even seven years after her death. The pop icon's estate says it's planning to launch a Whitney Houston hologram tour and a new album. The show will include recordings of the late singer along with a live band and backup singers. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, no, I'm sorry, but no. A hologram. Like no one should buy tickets just to watch a hologram.

All right? And worse, if you get the crappy seats, can you imagine? Now you're in the nosebleeds watching the jumbotron? Like, if you're paying $80 to watch a jumbotron of a hologram, kill yourself. Turn your ass into compost. Why do we, like, why are we having a hologram before like you know what I would pay for I'd pay for an audience member hologram yeah and then he goes to the concert and then I stay at home and play video games with my hologram best friend that's what I want to do. Like I don't understand why we

keep using hologram technology to revive artists we already have artists all right we need to use it to create things we don't have. Like we should make a hologram of immigrant fathers who aren't afraid to say I love you. Yeah? No, because that's one thing. If you have an immigrant father, you know what I'm talking about. They never say the phrase I love you. Yeah. One time my cousin was like, Ithe United States and China. For months now, the two countries have been involved in an escalating trade war. The US imposed tariffs on Chinese exports. China responded with tariffs on U.S.

exports and Black China is suing her headdresser. Unrelated but still pretty intense. But right now, right now there's an even bigger war between these two countries that's coming to a head. And this war, my friends, is for the future. China and the United States are in a face off, a battle for the ages. Whoever controls 5G is going to have to have to have to have to have to have to have a to have a the to have a to have a their their to have a their to have a their their their their their to have a their their to have a to have a to have a theirfix. their, their, theirfix. theiruex. thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande. Ande.c. And, tre.c.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e. And, th. And, thiiii. battle for the ages. Whoever controls 5G is going to have an enormous strategic advantage in the future. This is exactly what China wants. They want to defy Western alliances through bits and bites and bullets and bombs. If we don't win the race to 5G, America might never really become that leading superpower again.

Senator Marco Rubio compares the race to the to the space race with the Soviets of the 50s. He tweeted, if America falls behind, we will pay a huge price. Yeah this is serious folks. And I know right now what you're thinking. You're like, oh my God, I can't believe America might lose the race for 5G. And you're also thinking, what is 5G? Now I know it's weird 5G sounds like the worst seats to get on a long flight but 5G is really about the future of the internet really

actually why don't I just let the president explain it to you. It's all about 5G now we were 4G and everybody who say we have to get 4G and then they they said before that we have to get 3G and now we have to get 5G and to get 5G and th and th and th and 5 G th and 5 G th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thee. to to to to theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. theeeee. theee. the. the. th. th. G. And then they said, before that, we have to get 3G. And now we have to get 5G, and 5G is a big deal. And that's going to be there for a while. And I guess at some point we'll be talking to you about number 6. What do you think? Do you think that's the relation? Uh, okay. I don't think the president understands what 5G is either.

You got, you got 5G, then 6G, and then of course there's Kenny G, the smoothest of the G's. But, but for real though, what is the deal with 5G? And why are the US and China going to war over it? Well, we'll try and break it down for you in our ongoing segments. If you don't know, now you know. So, what exactly is the big deal about 5G? Because you might think it's just 4G, but a little bit faster, but it's actually a lot faster, so fast in fact that it could change the world.

The new world of 5G technology promises to transform our lives, connecting millions of devices and enabling everything from driverless cars to smart homes. Up to 20 times faster than the 4G most of us use now, 5G's lightning fast technology will accelerate and interconnect everything. To download a two-hour film on 3G would take about 26 hours. On 4G you'd be waiting 6 minutes, and on 5G you'll be ready to watch your film in just over 3 and 1 half seconds. Damn, you could download an entire movie in 3 seconds. That's going to be fast. I mean we'll still spend 45 minutes trying to decide movie in three seconds. That's going to be fast.

I mean, we'll still spend 45 minutes trying to decide which movie to download. But once we've decided, we'll need to go to bed because we're tired. But tomorrow, three seconds, my friends. And 5G isn't just about download speeds. It's a game changer for everything. Like, with 5G, you can have cities where everything communicates. Like doctors can perform surgeries from the other side of the world.

Can you imagine a world where your videos never buffer? Right? Your calls never drop. That would be amazing. Except, I guess now you could never fake a call dropping with 5G. Yeah, because that excuse is gone. You be like, I'm butter, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm th thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm thi, I'm tho, like, thi, I'm thi, like, like, like, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I th. Like, I th. Like, I thi. Like, I thi. Like, I thi. Like, I thi, I thi, thi, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. Like, thi. thi. Like, thi. Like gone. You'll be like, I'm losing, I'm losing, you're breaking up. And be like, mother fuck you're not breaking up, we got 5G. We're like, yeah, yeah, you're right. Carry on, grandma.

Yes, my grandma is Samuel L. Jackson. So, look, there's no denying. The technology is great. But why do China and the US care so much about who makes it? Well, it's the same reason they care about anything. The Benjumans, baby. When the US won the 4G race earlier this decade, it provided a nearly $100 billion boost to gross domestic product. And the stakes of the 5G race are even higher.

If the US wins, it would create an estimated 3 million jobs and add approximately $500 billion to GDP. That's right. If America wins the 5G race, that could bring millions of jobs and $500 billion to the country's GDP. $500 billion. You know how hard it is to get $500 billion. Like, you'd have to marry and divorce Jeff Bezos five times. And I mean, after the fourth time, he'd probably catch on. He'd be like, I think, I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi thi. thi' $500 billion, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the the the the the the the thi. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. times. And I mean, after the fourth time, he'd probably catch on. He'd be like, I think you don't love me. What? Me, Jeff? And the fight about 5G isn't just about money and downloading Avengers like that. No. It's also about power. Because if you control 5G, you have access to everything people are doing online, which is everything.

And right now the best 5G technology is made by a Chinese company called Huawei. And because the Chinese company is Chinese, many governments don't trust how secure it's going to be. Huawei may be best known to most people for making phones, but it's also a leading player in building the infrastructure for all our communications. Critics fear that allowing it to build 5G could enable the Chinese state to spy on or even switch off the flow of data we will all depend on. Imagine that. If Huawei becomes the leading 5G provider in the world, then China can spy on everyone, which is terrible, because that's what America wants to do.

Yeah, and I know you're judging, well if America wants to do it, then how do they judge it's not, that's not the point, all right? You want to do it first. It's like when you cut someone off in traffic and then someone else cuts in front of you, like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, th... that, th. th. th. that, th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, th. th. th stakes, job, money, and power. And I'm not going to try and bore you with all the technical details, but while America is developing its own 5G, China's 5G is so far ahead. Like they're basically going to set the trends. It's like how back in the day, there used to be a fight between DVD and LaserDisc. And if you're wondering, what the hell is laser disc? Exactly. Yeah.

That's America's 5G. So this is a race many people already saying America has lost. Luckily, and I can't believe I'm saying this, America is lucky that you have a maniac on your team who's willing to play dirty. President Trump has signed an executive order banning US companies from using telecom equipment deemed to be a national security threat, and that's a direct shot at China and its tech giant Huawei. As the U.S. clampdown on the company causes a major domino effect, the UK's biggest mobile network pulling Huawei from its 5G launch, while three of Japan's mobile operators have stopped taking orders or delayed the summer release of a new Huawei phone. Donald J. Mother-Effing Trump.

This guy could see America wasn't going to win, so he just got a crowbar and pulled a Tonya Harding on China's 5G. Just went in straight there. Yeah. The man might not know what 5G is, but he does know how to mess up other people. Shit, it's just in there. Bam! And I'm going to be honest with you, I don't actually blame Donald Trump because I don't know

how else America can win this race. Because even if America does manage to cripple Huawei and China, it's not like America will suddenly have great 5G, right? You won't just have 5G overnight. Unless America just pretends that it does. AT&T is putting a fake 5G logo on iPhones and iPads now. The company confirming to PC magazine that the new icon is going to show up when users download Apple's latest beta version

of iOS 12.2. But it's not really 5G. AT&T just changed the name for its 4G LTE Advanced Network to 5GE. The E stands for Evolution. Okay, guys, that's really sad. AT&C's just going to lie and put another stick. It's like you have a smart car, and then you just tape Lamborghini on the side of it. Just check it out, man.

I'm driving a Lambo now, 0 to 60 and 4 minutes flat. But, seeing as it's a race that might be lost, AT&T might be onto something here, because this is considered the new space race. So maybe America can win this race the same way it won the last one. Just fake it, baby. We'll be right back. streaming soon on Paramount Plus. This is Dr. Frazier Crane. I'm listening. He's back again. Hey dad, I got a question about punctuation.

Ooh! No, stay on task. And he's more Frazier than ever. How do I look? Rich. Just what I was going for. Oh my God, they traded your baby for wine. Do you really think we would trade John for white Zinfandel? Or, any wine? Frazier, new season streaming September 19th on Paramount Plus.

Welcome back to his daily show. My guest tonight is an award-winning journalist and author of the new book, No Visible Bruises. What we don't know about domestic violence can kill us. Please welcome Rachel Louis Snyder. Welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. And thank you for writing a book that genuinely I feel is sorely needed. The conversations around domestic abuse are generally oversimplified in my opinion. People will just be like, oh, you know, if he hits you, get out, or if she hits you, then just leave. Or it becomes a really simple story.

But the title in of itself is a powerful commentary on the idea of abuse. No visible bruises. Why that title? Because the worst part of domestic violence, if you talk to any victims, is the psychological abuse, the emotional abuse. There's a woman in my book I open with a woman, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thoe, thoe, th. tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi.. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.. the the they, the the the the the the. You know, there's a woman in my book I open with a woman whose husband went to this area outside of the city, they lived, Billings, Montana, and got a rattlesnake and brought it home

and kept it in a cage and just kept her in line with the threat of putting it in bed. And I don't know what you call that. I don't think that's called domestic violence. It's not physical violence, but it's certainly a kind of terror. It's an emotional abuse, definitely. Yeah. And when you read through this book, one thing that is intriguing is how you've taken the conversations and made them human. For instance, you spend time with a family that deals with physical abuse. You speak to men who are abusers and you talk to them and try and get into their minds. Why did you go for that approach? Because I mean most people would just speak to the abused but not the abuser but you really take an interesting approach where you speak to those who are the perpetrators.

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why didn't she just leave? Why don't they just leave? Why don't they leave? Let's put the impot- you know what I like to say? It's like, think about like if a burglar came into your house? And then you called the police, the police, why, why, why, why, why, why, the police, why, why, why, why, the police, the, the, why, why, the, why, the, the, why, the, why, why, the, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, then you called the police and the police were like, oh my gosh, it's so terrible that your house has been burgled, well you're going to have to leave your house now, but we're going to leave the burglar there, right? Like that's what we do with domestic violence victims. Like how unfortunate that you didn't, you know, why don't you just leave? The fact is they do leave. They the they do they do their their their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, toooooooomorrow, tooo, too.e. their, their, their, their, their, theto leave. The woman in my book, with the snake, she was putting all kinds of things in place to leave. She had put the house secretly in her name, her father owned the house, and so he had done that. She was taking nursing classes to try to get a job

so that she could support her children. But these things t, a lot of the time, unfortunately, many of these women leave by dying. That's one of the saddest facts in and around domestic abuse, not just in America but around the world. You have a system where men abuse women and oftentimes kill them in these families. What is really, I think, heart-wrenching about this is how so many states and so many countries have rules that almost soften the idea of what that crime is. You know, the people will call crimes of passion or people will try and soften that. Do you think that's something we have to change?

And more importantly, how do we begin changing that idea? I think absolutely we need to change. I mean, to me, it starts with changing the language around it. Like, crimes of passion is a great, th. Or you hear jail calls of guys who are like, if I didn't love you so much, I wouldn't be doing this. Right. I love for you that's making me do this. And I think that is a dangerous narrative. There's just a ton of coercion that happens in a domestic violence situation.

And if you listen the UK has one, France has one, California and New York are looking at them. I don't know, I don't have a sense of whether or not the United States is in a place to have those conversations. I think the fact that like I'm out here right now I just don't think this would have happened five years ago. Right, right. Just a conversation in and around that. As a journalist and as a writer, you took us on a journey and you take us on a journey in this book that connects with the human side of everything, including the men who have done something extremely horrible.

What's really fascinating is how you find yourself thrown off by how normal they are. Why is it important for people to know that? You know, I have four brothers, so I'm like, oh yeah, I know how men are. Like, yeah, yeah. And I got in the first batterers intervention group I ever sat in on. I was like, oh my god, they're just like people I'd go out for a beer with. Like we have this vision of a rage-aholic or somebody that will somehow be able to recognize. And you can't, you know. But the other thing is, once those guys

were in a safe place, meaning they didn't have someone kind of egging them on, they didn't have their friends who were sort of expecting them to behave a certain way, they showed not only real vulnerability, but like a desire to not be violent. It was really quite moving. It really is a powerful exploration into a topic that many people are uncomfortable with because many people including myself have lived in homes where we've experienced this. If somebody reads this book and somebody is in an abusive relationship,

what do you hope that they will take out of it? You know, the first thing I think is people need to share their stories. When you share your story, you give some truth to it. Like you start naming what it is. But I also think that we need to press a little bit. I've been telling people at readings this little journalistic tool that you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you th. You you th. You th. You th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I thii. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I'm thi. I'm thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho tho tho tho tho thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thiiii. thi. thi. thi. th little journalistic tool that you probably know because you interview people all the time, but I say to them like just press if you have a co-worker or a friend and they say something like well things aren't so good at home, use their own language back to them. I mean journalists do the so time like oh things aren't good at home like what to tell me more and they just automatically go deeper I the th. and th. and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and th and thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the just just just just the just the just the just the just just the just the just the just the just thi thi. And thi thi they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they just just just they they they just they they they they they just they they they just they they thi thi thi thi the. the. tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell the just just just just just just just just just just just just of take away the stigma of talking about this kind of stuff. I hope people read the book. I hope we have more of these conversations. Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Thank you. Really wonderful for having you. No visible bruises is available now. Rachel Lee Flann everybody. Thank you. Thank you. The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube for exclusive content and more.

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