The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trevor Noah Debates Tomi Lahren & Chris Christie

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

Trevor sat down with a slew of high-profile conservative guests during his time as host of The Daily Show. He interviewed Tomi Lahren who gave her take on the Black Lives Matter movement and explained why she lashed out against Colin  for his national anthem protest. And GOP Presidential candidate Chris Christie opened up about his position on the border wall, and his private conversations with Donald Trump.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My guest tonight is a conservative commentator with her own show on the Blaze Network. Please welcome, Tommy Laren. I'm in the lion's den, Trevor. I'm not a lion at all. Is that like an African thing? No. Um, welcome to the show. Before we get into it, uh, I know who you are.

I'm not a lion at all. Is that like an African thing? no. Um, welcome to the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show the show. So, before we get into it, I know who you are, because my Facebook feed has you in it. There are a lot of people who don't, so if you don't know Tommy Laren, this is a little taste of her show. The protesters are still out in force, but let's be honest. They're not protesters. They're crybabies with nothing better to do than manned around the streets with their

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all sandwiched together to become the largest group of winers the country has ever seen. All right. Pretty much covers it, doesn't it, Trevor? Pretty much, like, why are you so angry? Like, why are you so angry? I'm actually not that angry? I'm actually not angry and, I mean, this is what you're known for.

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But anyway, um... We exist on a spectrum travel. No, no, no, no. I mean, you're not, you know, would you see yourself a liberal? That was just funny. That was just funny. That was just a funny. I'm not racist.

What is your biggest issue with Black Lives Matter? I think, and I've said this many times, it started with good intentions. I think it was. It was well-intentioned. The moment that they started pushing, hands up don't shoot, which is a false narrative, proven time and time again to be a false narrative, the the their....aaauiiiiia, thia, thia, thia, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi....... thi, thi, thi.. thi, thi, thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, theeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And, thi. And, thi't shoot, which is a false narrative, proven time and time again to be a false narrative, the minute that that became their slogan, the minute that protesting turning into rioting and looting and burning and militant actions, that's when I lost respect for Black Lives Matter.

Okay, but now here's my thing. Let's address each of the time. There were people who rioted and looted when teams won in Chicago years ago. It doesn't mean that they are now bad people. That's what happens. There are some bad people in every instance. Going back to Black Lives Matter, though, for you to say that,. Because they subscribe to the Black Lives Matter movement. They say we are

the Black Lives Matter movement, fry them like bacon, F the police. They are these are a few people. This is not the black lives matter. That is not the platform though. I saw it in my city of Dallas. I saw what a black lives matter protest look like and I saw five fallen officers because of it. So I've seen- That's not fair and that's true. No, no, no, it is fair terms, because the shooter said, point blank,

shooter said he's doing this because of black lives matter. Yes, and there are many things you can say. I mean, if you go outside, you can say anything about doing something because mental issues as well and he was in a tough place. Just because you say the thing doesn't mean it's what it stands for, right? Because you're the same person, you're the same person who argued on your show that just because Donald Trump has supporters from the KKK doesn't mean he's in the KKKKK so it goes against that. You can't say he did it because of. No, but he, the shooter the shooter said I, thr, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. You're th. You're the same, the same, the same. You the same. You the same. You's, the th. You's, th. You's, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. th. the. the. th. the. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. the same. said I... Yes, but Black Lives Matter has never said, go out and shoot people. I'm saying, you're saying this to your audience, and I honestly do not understand where you're getting that from.

And I honestly do not understand where you're getting that from, just because a person, what if somebody says, I felt emboldened by Tommy Laren, and so I went out and I shot black people. to thrown to the black black black black black black black, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, that, that, that, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, tho, thr-a, thr-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a, th. th. th. th. Baltimore, in Ferguson, in New York City, the protests that have now turned to anti-Trump protests. These are not a few people. This is mass crowds of people. They're doing it, it's a name of Michael Brown. They're doing it as a name of Freddie Gray. They're doing it as the front of Black Lives Matter and then go, police, are the police racist?

Because police, in many cities, you look at Baltimore, you look at what happened in New York, you look at what happened in the case of Walter Scott, you tell me our police racist because they're, the police racist, because they've been shown to harass black people when they're unarmed, does the because the mainstream media is not emboldening them as a group. It's not. And did you know that a black man is 18.5 times more likely to shoot a police officer than a police officer than a police officer is to shoot a black man? Those are the statistics no one wants to talk about. Here's the thing. What do you wish people would understand about you that are in another bubble?

What do you wish people would understand about you on the other side? I wish that we could disagree with each other without thinking that we are bad people or that I'm a teantension, folks. So because I criticize a black person or I criticize the black thrown, mitten. Black Lives Matter movement, that doesn't mean that I am anti-black. It does not mean that I don't like black people or that I'm a racist. It means I'm criticizing a movement. I criticize Colin Kaepernick.

That doesn't mean that I don't believe in his First Amendment rights. It means that I believe in my First Amendment rights to criticize him. So it doesn't make me a bad person. It doesn't make me a racist. people. I've never looked down on someone because of their skin color. To me, true diversity is diversity of thought, not diversity of color. I don't see color. I go after Hillary Clinton and she's as white as they come. You don't you don't see color. So what do you do at a traffic light? I don't believe in that at all when people say that. There's nothing wrong with seeing color. It's how you treat color that's more more more more th is more th is more th is more th. th. th. their th. their th. their th. their th. their th. their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. their their thi. thiole. th. their their their their their. I's their. I's their. their. their. their. their. their. their. I's their. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's their. I. I. I's their. I's their. I's their. I's the the the the the the the their their the. I's the. I's toe. I's te. I'm te. I'm tre. I'm tre. I'm tre. I'm tre. I'm tre. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm their there's nothing wrong with scene color. It's how you treat color that's more important. You're right. It is.

Here's my thing. Like, all these points that you make are great, and I do believe that you believe them. And I don't believe anyone is actively trying, there are few people are trying like Black Lives Matters the new KKK because you realize Black Lives Matter can't be the new KKK, the KKKK is still around. They have not vacated their premises and most importantly to say black lives matters the new KKKKK is to really minimize what the KKKKKKKK is to really minimize what the they the k is they the k is the k is the k is the k is the k is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to really, the to really, to really, the the the to really, to really, to really, to really, to really, to really, to really, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thk, the thk, th th thi, tttttttttttttttttkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk, tk, tk for. That is not the same thing. Surely you understand the incendiary feeling of your comments.

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When you're saying, when there are people in the street saying if Does that not sound reminiscent of the KKK were their motives to you? Is that the narrative of Black Lives Matter or are there people who are saying that within a crowd of other human beings? There is a distinction between a movement and the people. That is something that we keep coming back to. But let's go back to what you were saying on Colin Kappenig and the National Anthem. This is something I don't understand and when I watch your videos I go I truly do not understand you say Colin Kappenick is exercising his First Amendment rights and you are exercising your First Amendment rights in criticizing him. So what you are saying is you have the right to say anything you want so shut up.

No not at all. I'm saying I don't agree with what he did. I think that he went about the wrong way. I don't think he understands. What is the right way? When people say that I'm always fascinated, what is the right way? Here's the deal. So here's a black man in America who says, I don't know how to get a message across. If I march in the streets, people say I something I've always wanted to know. What is the right way for a black person to get attention in America?

Taking it out, Trevor, taking it out on our flag and our national anthem to me? But how? Why would you take out your perceived oppression of black people out on the national anthem in our flag? A country that you live in, a country that you benefit from, a country that people of all races have died to protect, have died to die the vote, have, have, to be, to be, the to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. And, tho, tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is is thiiiiiii...a, is the.a, the.a, the, the, the, thr.a, t.a, t.a.a.a.a.a.a. ta.a.a.a.a. ta.a.a. ta.a. ta. ta. ta. ta, t protect, have died for the vote, died to be enfranchised by this nation. How do you then go and disrespect the flag and the anthem of that country? Why is that the outlet? Well, maybe you're a person who's lived and read through history and you realized

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very hard times. And this country, it's got its scars, it's got its wounds, it's got its history, but I still believe it's the greatest nation on the face of the earth and I believe if you live in this or active aggression, I disagree with it. And so he has every right to do it. That's his First Amendment rights, and I agree with his First Amendment right to do it. I don't agree with what he did. So, because I don't agree with what he did, that now I should shut up, because I'm white, so I shouldn't be able to that's what the argument is.

What I'm saying is, I asked you one question and that is, how should a black person bring up their grievances? That's all I ask, how? If that's not the right way, if marching isn't the right way, what is the right way? What is the right way? What is the today? What he said was talking, when when, when, what he said, what he said, what he said, what he said, what he said, what he said, what he said, what he was, what he was, wa, what he was, wa, wa, what he said, what he said, wa, wa, wa, what he said, wa, wa, wa, what he said, what he said, what he is, what he said, what he said, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, wa, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi, th th thi, thi, thi, thi, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that that that that that th anthem and the flag because of the oppression of black people in this country. I would like him, to further explain what he's talking about when he's discussing the black oppression in this country, also. Is it against police? Is it against the government? I'm not sure what oppression he's discussing. I would love to have him come on my show and discuss it with me. To me, when you make the flag and you make the anthem, the outlet for your anger, or the outlet through which you're going to protest your country that you live in and you reside

and that you take $19 million a year from, I don't think that that is the correct outlet for your anger. So what is he protesting? Again, you haven't answered my question of how you, how you want black people? And I'm asking you, honestly, I'm not in a challenging way, I'm saying to you, I don't know the answer apart from these methods. So I would like to know if you've ever thought of a how, because you're the first person I've met who said this. I've seen this message online. I'm not labeling you as the bad person.

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And now I would like to know from your side, genuinely, as someone who's won. Do you believe that Donald Trump will follow through on his promises? I will be a vocal opponent if he doesn't. I am not somebody that gets on the cheerleading bandwagon. If he does something I disagree with, I will discuss it. I did before I was a Trump supporter. I was critical of Trump. I was a Marco Rubio girl for a long time. And then I started to to to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see to see that thii, it thi, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, th. I, thi, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thi, I'm thi, thi. thi. tooo. too. toe. too. too. th. tho. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. was critical of Trump. I was a Marco Rubio girl for a long time. And then I started to see that was going to be our nominee.

And I said, it's him or Hillary. A lot of Americans were in that position. Yeah. And then I got closer to the campaign, and I started seeing some of the things he was saying. And I started seeing the effect It really was. Hillary could use some of it out every now and then, right? Bill's a little busy. Bill's a little busy. I appreciate you being on the show.

Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Trevor. It is a conversation to continue having. You can find Tommy's final thoughts at Facebook. Tommy Laren, everybody. We'll be right back. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, it's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting, you'll be saying to yourself, TGID, thank God it's Thursday we're going

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on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with and governor of New Jersey who ran for president and served as head of President Trump's transition team. His new book is called Let Me Finish, Trump, the Kushner's Bannon, New Jersey and the power of in your face politics. Please welcome Governor Chris Christie. Welcome back to the show, sir. Welcome back to the show, sir.

Happy to be back. Interesting. You were the third guest on my show. I was. You are also one of the only, in fact, you are the only Republican who supports Trump, who's come back to the show post-Trump winning. Huge bravery. So brave, Chris, so brave. You also got nothing to lose, which helps.

Well, you know, listen, it's... It's... You know? Sometimes that's when you're bravest, right? Never know. How do you feel about these Republicans who seem to be pro-Trump or with him and then when they're leaving, all of a sudden they're like, he is the worst thing in the world? It seems like bravery does happen when the people leave.

Yeah, when you know, you don't have to now is just foe bravery, so. That's the way it goes. Hurricane Sandy was, for you, one of the most seminal moments in your life and your career. It's interesting because you went on this roller coaster ride of approval ratings. Hurricane Sandy, around that time, people said, Chris Christie could be the next president of the United States. I recall that. Yeah. And then, a while later, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thu United States. I recall that. Yeah. And then a while later, like this picture was one of those that made you one of the most hated men in the United

States when like a beach was shut down and there was, you know, a shutdown and you were out on the beach with your family. What was that like, just genuinely from your side as a human being going from like everyone loving to you to feel like everyone hates you? Try to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th th th thi thi thi the the the the the thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their their their their their their their their their their their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiia. thiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. hates you. Try to make me cry. No, no, no, no, no, seriously. No, I mean, listen, seriously, like, that's often what political life is like. You know, very rarely is there somebody in political life who does anything that's worth anything, that remains popular all the way through. Because if you're doing stuff that matters and stuff that needs to be done in your state or in this country, you're going to anger some people. You have to.

Because unless you're just giving everything away, unless you're just saying yes to everybody, even if you don't mean it, you're going to make some people angry. And so, you know, to me, like it's never fun. Like you always would much rather be 75% than 15%. Right. But in the end, the end, the end, the end, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thus thus thus thus thus thus, thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus you thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus thus. thus. thus thus you're just just just just just just just just just th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thus you thus thus you thus thus, thus, thus thus thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus. thus th it really matter? Like, to me, what matters is what you did and what you accomplished. And so for me, that's what always mattered the most. No one likes it. Anybody who says they like, being unpopular at times is just completely full of it. I didn't like it. But I also tried to have some perspective on it,

that wasn't why I did it in the first place anyway, was to be popular and I used to tell my folks when we were at 75% like we're not keeping this in the desk drawer and like just looking at it go look how pretty that 75% is let's go spend it let's go do the difficult things that'll bring that down and then you got to live with it. You've written a book let me finish. Trump the Kushners Bannon New Jersey and the true. the the the the Crushkushkushkushkushk. the Crush. the Crush. the Cush. th. th. the Cush. th. th. th. th. th. th. the Cush. th. the Cush. th. the Cush. the Cush. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thr. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. th. thr. thr. thr. thr. thr. th. th. th. th. take us through a little bit of how you began, a little bit of your life, the journey that made you into Chris Christie as people know you. And then you really get into the meat of the presidential campaign from you announcing, from you going into the race all the way through to dropping out and then the story with Donald Trump. Right. Let's start at the beginning of this journey when you were running and Donald Trump was running. You guys had been friends for a while. Yeah, at that time we've been friends for about 14 years. Did you think

he stood a chance? No. Why not? I thought the whole thing was a joke at the time. I really did. I mean, he had been talking about running for president for a long time. Right. I mean, going back 20 years. And so when he finally, look he was getting older, and when he finally declared, I thought to myself, well, he's not gonna stay in. I mean, this is gonna be something where he's gonna do it for a little while, get into a debate or two, experience it and then go, man, I don't need this, I'm gonna go away. So the whole premise of me, and not just me, like, all right, he's getting some attention now, but he can't be serious about this. Is that why you guys didn't work as hard to attack him?

It felt like everyone was leaving him and it was like, ah, forget him, he's fun. You know what it really was? Part of the problem was there was so many of us. And he had so much popularity in the polls, the polls. Yes. was there was just a little bit left for everybody. So you remember when people would go to attack him, like Ram Paul went to attack him, one thing gives, and he will go, you're at 2% and you're nothing,

you're never going to win, leave me alone, right? Or you shouldn't even be on the stage. You shouldn't be on the stage. Who are you? That kind of thi, thiiii. getting sand kicked in your face, not just once, but like a hundred times. And so people said, well, let's wait. The strategy of everybody was, let's wait until we're down to the last few, and then we'll go after him. Uh-huh.

But when you saw that happening, when you saw Trump becoming a viable candidate, it, the race changed quite a bit. You know, interestingly, no, except for one instance, that instance, thruuuuuuuiiiiiii, the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, the thi, thi, that, that, that, that, that, that, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the strategy, the the the the the the the the the the their, th. th. th. that, th. th. that, th. th. that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, thr. thr. theeeeat, thr. theat, theeat, theeat, theeeat, the. that, the. that, that, because we never, except for one instance that I detail in the book. Right. Which, what is that instance? Well, that instance was, I got the endorsement of the Manchester Union leader in New Hampshire, which is the biggest newspaper in New Hampshire, and the biggest endorsement to get in the primary, and he was really pissed. And so he was in South Carolina when it happened, and then he gives some speech saying that, oh, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, the, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, the, I, and, I, I, I, and, the, the, I'm, I's, I, and, the, the, and, and, and, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I'm, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I's, I, I's, I, I, I, I, I, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and Bridgegate, he knew all about it. I know he knew about it. He had breakfast with these people every morning. What were they talking about? It was all made up. All made up.

But how does that, how do you still stay friends with somebody who's accusing you of being part of something that is a crime? Well, part of what, part of everything in politics sometimes, and if you break every relationship you have with someone who says something bad about you, you're going to be eating dinner alone in politics because it's a nasty game. But also what happened was when he did that, then I went after him. So I was in Iowa when he did that. That night I went after him and I said, listen, Donald Trump said a whole bunch of lies about me today. Let me tell you the truth. We don't need a wall.

We're never going to build a wall, even if he's elected. And if we ever did build a wall, I can guarantee you one thing. Mexico ain't ever going to pay for it. Right. And you know, the crowd. Do you still believe all of those things? Listen. It looks likethose things. Do we need some more security at the border?

Of course we do. And I think everybody agrees on that. Right. But do we need what he was talking about then, which was a concrete wall? Yes. the concrete wall. He doesn't even say anymore if that's what he needs. Now he says a fence. Or a fence or steel slats or something like that. But the point was when I went after him, the next morning, Corey Lewandowski, who was campaign manager at the time, called my campaign manager, said, listen, Donald's really sorry,

he didn't mean to say any of that. He knows it was wrong, he knows that wasn't true. And he wants a true trruce trruce trruce trruce true true. true. He trururue true. He's to. He's to. He's to. He's to. He's to. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's to say, he's to say, he's th. He's thin. He knows. He's thi. thi. thi. thi. When he's. When he's. When he's. When he's. When he's. When. When. When. When. When. When. When. When. When. He's when. He's. He's. He's. He's the the the the the th. He's. He's. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's thi. He's thi. He's th th th th th th the th the th thean. the th th th thean. the th th thin. the th the th thin. th th th true and he wants a truce. And so I said to my guy, if he wants a truce, he calls me. And so he called me and he admitted. He never, he didn't mean it. He knew it wasn't true, he was just angry, and he apologized. We haven't always agreed on everything. We fight and argue about stuff, but I've always appreciated that you come on the show and I love what you do. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Let me finish. It's a fascinating book and it's available now. Governor Chris Krista, everybody. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show, wherever

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