The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trevor Noah: Racism Detective - Steve King's White Supremacy Comments | Tressie McMillan Cottom

Episode Date: January 16, 2019

Trevor investigates Congressman Steve King's racist comments, Ronny Chieng gives his take on the 2019 Consumer Electronics Show, and Tressie McMillan Cottom discusses "Thick." Learn more about your a...d-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient-to-bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but
Starting point is 00:00:26 how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. January 15, 2019. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York. This is the daily show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Thank you so much for coming out, and thank you for tuning it. I appreciate your thrown. I'm Trevor Noah. My guest tonight, a brilliant woman, author of the new book Thick.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Tresi Macmillan Cotsam is here, everybody. We're going to be having a fascinating conversation with her catch up on today's headlines. Great Britain, not so great anymore. If you think things look bad in the new Spider-Man trailer, just wait till you see it on the news. A breaking news on Brexit. British Prime Minister Theresa May losing a historic vote on her plan to leave the European Union. The Parliament overwhelmingly rejecting the deal in a vote late tonight in London. Today's defeat was a landslide. Teresa May got a shalacking. The right voted no. The left voted no. It was the worst failure of government in Britain by the numbers in the history of Great Britain. Good Lord, what a mess.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I bet Mary Poppins floated down, looked around and this turned around like, well, you've rarely shit the bed now. I'm out, bitches! So with this vote, Teresa May has become one of the UK's least popular people, which is impressive in a country that also has Piers Morgan. She wanted Brexit, no one's voted with her. And, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I the the the the the the the the the the the the th. I bet. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the UK's least popular people, which is impressive in a country that also has Piers Morgan, right? She wanted Brexit, no one's voted with her, and now that her Brexit plan has been voted down, the country is faced with either calling the whole thing off
Starting point is 00:02:34 or going through with Brexit with no exit plan at all. Yeah, it's basically like the whole UK suddenly realized they don't have a condom, and they're like, well, we know what the smart thing is to do, but we also rarely wanted to get screwed. So... Moving on, Netflix. They're the streaming service that turned every blockbuster video into a seasonal Halloween store, and they just made a big announcement. Big news today out of Netflix, raising prices for US subs as much as 18% effective immediately
Starting point is 00:03:04 for new users. It's the company's biggest increase since it launched its streaming service 12 years ago. The price for Netflix's most popular plan will jump the most to $13 per month from $11. That's right, Netflix is increasing its prices, which I'm sorry, is so unfair. Do they even care about how this is going to affect me and my mom and Kibuka and Olisa and all the other people using my account? No, they don't care. They don't care. I mean before I could divide $11 by the 11 people who have my password but 13 that shit makes no sense. Now I'm gonna have to give two more people my login details so if anyone wants to join my account it's T-noa and then and the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password the password their to to to to to toe-a. toe-a. toe. toe. I'm to toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm to to to to to to me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me. to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm toe. I'm to to to to to to to join my account, it's T-Noa, and then the password is kakamba.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Okay? Yeah. Obviously all caps. Go crazy. But look, I will admit, I do get why Netflix is doing this, right? Netflix just spent $100 million to buy friends. Yeah, that's a lot of money. That's almost as much as Don Jr. spent to buy his friends. Oh, and speaking of the Trumps, it is now day 25 of the government the government the government the government of of of the government of of of of the government of the government of the government of the government of the government of to to the government to the government to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to ca. toxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. th. th. the. the, the the the the, the the the thea. the the the the thea. the thea. tape tape the tape. toe. toe. toe spent to buy his friends. Oh, and speaking of the Trumps, it is now day 25 of the government shutdown. The longest in American history, and it looks like now even President Trump is starting to feel the effects. An odd feast for champions. The Clemson Tigers football team was treated to a vast spread of fast food during their
Starting point is 00:04:24 visit to the White House. Much of the White House resident staff is not working because of the shutdown. So President Trump, he footed the bill and treated the NCAA champs to burgers, fries and pizza. Burger King, Wendy's, and McDonald's. We have Big Max, we have quarter pound with cheese, we have everything that I like that you like. Now what's your favorite thing here, Mr. President? I like it all.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I like it all, it's all good stuff. Do you prefer... Great American food. I like how he busted himself, because we've got all the things that I like that you like, that you like, that you like. And honestly, is there any anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything anything is the anything anything is the anything is the the the the thi thi thi thi thi thi, is thi, is thi, is thi, is that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I that I that I that I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that, I that that than eating McDonald's by candlelight? Like, I feel like that's him. If you combine any fancy thing with any garbagey thing, that's Trump's style.
Starting point is 00:05:14 McDonald's by candlelight, cavia in a porta party. Him in the White House. You know? It's just a mix. But I will say this, if the government shutdown means that Trump gets to eat cheeseburgers every night, then this thing is going to last forever. Buckle up, folks. All right, let's move on to our main story. Racism. As we all know, it died for good the night Barack Obama was elected president.
Starting point is 00:05:45 But a strange thing happened this week. We learned that racism may be coming back to life. And it turns out, it's already in the House. House Republican leaders came down hard on one of their own last night. Iowa Congressman Steve King was stripped of his committee assignments less than a week after making a comment to the New York Times that was widely seen as racist. The decision was made by House GOP leader Kevin McCarthy and other top Republicans. These are not the first time we've heard these comments.
Starting point is 00:06:14 That is not the party of Lincoln. It's definitely not America. He ought to resign and move on and let someone else who represents American values, take his seat. One Republican who did not weigh in was President Trump. I don't, I haven't been following it. I really haven't been following it. You haven't been following it?
Starting point is 00:06:32 Like, what else are you doing? I'm extremely busy folks. Do you think a name like Jeff Bozo just comes out of nowhere, huh? Genius like that takes time. But this is a big deal. The Republican Party has punished. thiaiaia, thiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I tho, I th. I th. I th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. th. th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I tho, th. I tho, that's, tho, that's, that's, theeean. thean. theananan. theananan. that's the the the tho theananananananananananananan, I tho. But this is a big deal. The Republican Party has punished one of its own for making racist comments. And if you haven't been keeping up with the story, what happened is in an interview with the New York Times, Steve King basically said that he doesn't think there's anything wrong with being a white supremacist.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Now that feels like a pretty racist thing to say, which makes it even more surprising that Trump isn't following this. I mean, you'd think an algorithm or something would have recommended it by now. Be like, if you like Charlottesville, you'll love Steve King. But as damning as King's comments sound to most people, he's claiming that it's not what he said. It's just how we heard it. The New York Times is suggesting that I'm an advocate for white nationalism and white supremacy. I want to make one thing abundantly clear. I reject those labels and the evil ideology that they define.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Ah, okay. So Steve King went from saying those terms are not offensive to then rejecting them and calling them evil. I haven't seen a turnaround that drastic since the movie Titanic. Remember where the iceberg? the iceberg? I was like, what the iceberg started off as the good guy and then out of no way just started killing everybody I was like what the hell iceberg? So as it stands Steve King said a thing that's really racist but he claims that he isn't racist at all
Starting point is 00:07:52 so which is it is he racist or not well I think this sounds like a job for Trevor Noah ra racism detective Racism Detective. Oh, hello. It's still me, Trevor No. Racism, Detective. Oh, hello. It's still me, Trevor Noah. Racism detective. You can tell I'm a real detective because I'm wearing a funny hat and I have a magnifying glass for like burning ants or whatever people use that for. So now that I have all my gear it's time to investigate whether
Starting point is 00:08:34 Congressman Steve King is actually a racist and here's our first clue. A clip of Steve King in 2013 saying disparaging things about Mexican immigrants. They aren't all valedictorians. They weren't all brought in by their parents. For everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another hundred out there that they weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the sides of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. Okay, that's like the weirdest math problem I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:09:05 If Jose is 130 pounds and he's hauling 75 pounds of marijuana, his calves would be the size of what fruit? Like, the weirdest part of this one is that King isn't even working off existing stereotypes, he's just making up new ones that don't exist. Mexicans have can't even tell it that's a exist. Mexicans have Canterloop carves? You can't even tell it that's a good thing or a bad thing. Even Mexicans are like, thank you? I mean, I have been getting my steps in.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So the first clue is racist seeming. But on the other hand, Cantiloup isn't a racist fruit. Like if he really wanted to be racist, he could have said bananas or watermelon, you know, classic racist fruit. So we still need more proof. And look, what's this? It's another clue.
Starting point is 00:09:51 When you talked about Muslims working in your pork plants and say, I don't want Muslims working in my pork plant because they need extra explanation. What did you say? Chris, you gotta have a sense of humor. Here's the sound bite. The rationale is that if infidels that are eating this pork, they're not eating it. So as long as they're preparing this pork for infidels, it helps send them to hell and it must make a lot happy. Geez. Why don't I don't want people to do in my pork, it won't eat it.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Fair enough. Damn. So Steve King says he doesn't want Muslims working in pork factories because he thinks it makes them happy to feed the rest of us pork because it'll send us to hell. So in his mind, there are some Muslims who hate everyone else so much, they're like, I want to destroy these infidels. Let's blow them up. No, no, too easy. Let's open a pork shop. Feed them delicious bacon and watch them enjoy themselves for many years until they die naturally and then go to hell.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Ha ha ha ha ha ha, bacon grease. Bacon, grease. So he said Mexicans or drug mules with canaloo calves and Muslims are trying to damn our souls with pork. But I don't know. Does that mean he's racist? Or is he? their? their their their their their their their their their their they? they? their their they they their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thiii. thicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicicic. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. their their their the the their the the their their their their their trying to damn our souls with pork. But I don't know. Does that mean he's racist? Or is he just hungry? Without more clues, we can never know. Unless, there's a third clue. This Western civilization still is a superior civilization. You cannot rebuild your civilization with somebody else's babies. You've got to keep your birth rate up. Poohoo.
Starting point is 00:11:29 God damn it, that was so racist, it burned my lungs. You can't rebuild a civilization with someone else's babies. I mean, on the one hand, he's right. Babies are terrible at building stuff. Have you ever given a baby a power to? I have. That's why I'm not allowed a not allowed allowed not allowed allowed not allowed not allowed the the tha allowed not allowed tha allowed tha thovedvedvedvedvedvedveded not allowed not allowed not allowed not allowed thoed thoed thoed thoed not to not to not to not to not to not to to to told not told power to? I have. That's why I'm not allowed near daycare centers anymore. But what King is actually saying is that minority babies could never be American. Only white babies can truly be American.
Starting point is 00:11:55 I assume they're taught how to become American by their Filipino nannies. So we got three clues. But it still doesn't feel like we have enough to know for sure that Steve King is racist. If only he had said something else, something really, really explicitly racist, like this. Go back through history and figure out where are these contributions that have been made by these other categories of people that you're talking about, where did any other subgroup of people contribute more to civilization're talking about, where did any other subgroup of people contribute
Starting point is 00:12:26 more to civilization? And white people? Who? Then, Western civilization itself that's rooted in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and the United States of America, and every place where the footprint in Christianity settled the world. That's all of Western civilization. Oh man, Steve King actually has a good point here, folks.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Other cultures haven't really contributed anything to human civilization. I mean, the paper in front of him was invented in China, but that doesn't count. Who's ever used paper? And the numbers on that sign behind him. India came up with those, but I mean... And the Christianity he just mentioned, obviously that came from the Middle East. So that's three things that non-whitewhite cn white cn white cn wh white cn white cn white cn white cn wh white cnight cultuuuuultult cultult cultult cultult cultu-night that non-night cultu-n't that that that that that that that that thu-a thu-a thu-n't thi tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-a tho-n tho-n't tho-n't obviously that came from the Middle East. So that's three things that non-white cultures contributed to humanity. But I mean, who's counting other than the Indians?
Starting point is 00:13:11 So, let's look at the evidence. On the one hand, we have Steve King being racist towards Mexicans, Muslims, and the entire non-white world. But on the other hand, he says he's not racist. Even I'm not good enough as a racism detective to crack this one. So I guess it'll just have to remain a mystery. Join me next week when I investigate cross burnings. Are they racist? Or just a dramatic way to roast marshmallows? I will try to find out. We'll be right back. on sandwiches. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Starting point is 00:14:09 The future. It's coming fast and it's here now. Which means Ronnie Chang is back with another installment of today's future now. Thanks, Trevor. Last week in Las Vegas was the annual consumer electronic show. Thanks, Trevor. Last week in Las Vegas was the annual Consumer Electronics Show, where tech companies give us the first look at all the junk will be throwing away in six months. And this year was the worst yet. They have a lot of technology and no good ways to use it.
Starting point is 00:14:40 One of the items turning heads is a fully automated bread-making machine. The bread bought by the Wilkinson Baking Company can make 10 loaves an hour from scratch. The fully automated bread-making machine measures, mixes, needs, bakes, and sells bread like a vending machine. A vending machine for bread. Yeah, because I don't know about you, but when I'm craving a snack on the go, I want an entire loaf of bread. A vending machine is supposed to be convenient. There's nothing convenient about a loaf of bread. While you're added, why don't you just build a vending machine for Pella, a whole watermelons? And that wasn't even the most unnecessary thing at CES this year.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Okay, look at what one company is offering for babies because they're hoping that new parents are too tired to notice how stupid it is. A company called Monit has a cookie-sized detachment that you can put on a diaper and it's Bluetooth enabled so anytime the diaper gets dirty you'll get a notification on your phone. The sensor can detect whether there's a number one or a number two in the diaper. Wow, a diaper with built-in notification. You know what else has a built-in notification? Human shit, all right? Trust me, it'll let you know when it's in the room. Or even the next room, depending on what you ate, okay?
Starting point is 00:15:53 You don't need to bring Bluetooth into this. Also, who wants to get notifications on their phone every time their baby takes a crap? Notifications are supposed to be for good things. I don't want to be like, oh, my phone's buzzing. I wonder if it's my food. That's here. Oh no, that's just my son's food, coming out of its butt. What I like about CES is that it does give me a chance to see what I would be buying if I had unlimited money. And Lamborghini has
Starting point is 00:16:17 has partnered with Los Angeles face company Body Friend to create a top of the the to to to the toaa to the to to create a top of the line massage chair called the LBF 750. It has the aesthetics and paint job of a Lamborghini and comes with LED lighting. Now if this looks like something that's maybe a bit too fancy for your house, you might be right. It's worth a cool $30,000 and it's mostly been sold in places like Macau and Asia. So basically you need to be like crazy, rich, and Asian to buy this. Interesting. Anyway, you have $30,000 to spend on a massage chair.
Starting point is 00:16:54 You don't need a massage chair, okay? What could you possibly be stressed about? Is carrying all your money hurting your back? But the real stars of every CES are the robots. For one week a year, they get to be the creepiest things in Las Vegas. Here at CES, the hottest products and robots are powered by artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence programmed to give robots a personality, and sometimes an attitude.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Please don't touch me when I am dancing. Yeah, you tell him Artu, Me Too. This is just the beginning of robots asserting their rights. All right, next thing you know, your rumba is going to want a living wage and benefits. I already got two cavities because my electric toothbrush went on paid vacation. So that robot didn't want to be touched, but some of these other ones are getting downright needy. This is the love-ot. It's a contraction of loving and robots.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Many of the smartest robot companies I'm seeing here, including Groove X, are saying robots need to be relatable even before they are capable. The body is covered with dozens of sensors when I carry it and hold it and stroke it a certain way. It remembers that, it learns its relationship with me. The more time you spend with it, the better it knows you and the more it'll become attached to you and actually kind of be around you more. You know, tech nerds.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You don't have to try so hard to make machines likable. We already love them. You see this little guy right here? Yo, this thing is like my best friend, all right? I would die for it. One time I left it in a cab, and I turned to Liam Neeson and take it. Because I have a particular set of skills and a particular set of nudes on that phone. That I will be needing back. Wow, when you say it like that, I'm glad you got it back. Yeah, I had to kill eight guys in Paris, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean, have you seen these news, Trevor? They're incredible. Look at that. We don't need that. Ronnie Chang, everyone, we'll be right back. Put the news away. Welcome back to the show, My guest to-the show Tresi Macmillan Cotton.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We do this every time. I put the chair high on purpose for you. I know. I just want you to experience a different, you know. Every time. Okay. We want to see more of you. That. to experience a different, you know, every time.
Starting point is 00:19:27 We want to see more of you. How are you? I am well. Welcome back to the show. Thank you. And congratulations on your new book, thick. The title of the book is thick. And what's interesting is that for you, it's not just a physical term about personality, it's a term about body, it's a term about all of the ideas
Starting point is 00:19:45 that go into what society perceives a black woman to be or what he should be. Give me an understanding of what you're trying to accomplish with this book. That's a great question. I think thick was about it. Thick was the last essay I wrote in this book. And when we titled it, it all sort of came together, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be a to be, to be, to be a to be a to be a, to be a, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be a to be a to be, to be a to be a to be a to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be a the the the the the the the the the their their their.. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their their their too, too, too, to be a to. There's this theme running through the history of black women's experience of this country and of the world that is about us being nuanced and sometimes too nuance for the world to perceive us as we perceive ourselves. And it was in that nuance where I wanted people
Starting point is 00:20:15 to get comfortable. We're not usually very comfortable in places where we don't have easy black and white answers. And this book is about complicating, the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, the, the, together, together, together, together, together, together, together, t, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, to be, t, t, t, t, t, t, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, together, is, together, is, is, together, together, is, is, together, is, is, together, is toomoomorrow all of that, but in a way that centers the experiences of black women as being human experiences, which is what I thought. If there's any contribution of this book, it is that. It's interesting that you say that, because for many black women in America, they have always said that the definition of being a black woman
Starting point is 00:20:41 in America is one that seems to be defined by others. So they go, you're the angry black woman, you're the sassy black woman, oh you're smart for a black woman. It seems like there's always some sort of qualifier that comes with that. You're trying to dissect those ideas. The book is really, really in depth, but at the same into essays as opposed to just writing one long book? Well I don't know that one long book would be enough for the story of black women, oddly enough, essays are a better approach because you can take these slices of our life and you run the risk of people thinking that this is a definitive book on what it is to be a black woman. I mean so one of the
Starting point is 00:21:19 things that happens when you're a black woman and you have some public personalities, you become everybody's black friend who doesn't have an actual black friend. And I didn't want to give the impression that by reading one definitive text about black women you knew everything there was to know about black women. Yes. What this does instead is give you a slice of life and the thinking and the philosophy of black womanhood as I understand it, not just as someone who lives it and has experienced it, but someone who has studied it and thought about it at these different levels. So essays allow me to sort of slice those sections of our life experiences off in a way that I think a single narrative wouldn't allow me to do. You talk in the book about how publications, for instance, don't hire enough black
Starting point is 00:21:58 women as voices to constantly contribute. They just want to jump in and be like, hey, there's a black issue. That's right. Black lady, can you just jump in and write this for us? But we're not going to hire you permanently. Why do you think that's so important in the conversations that America has in and around its politics or social issues? You know, it's important on a couple of levels.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's important to black women public discourse, then you should be at publications that help shape that kind of discourse. In our opinion pages, those mass heads, as much as we like to think that they no longer matter, indeed in the age of social media, they may matter more and not less, because we tend to turn to the publications that we trust more when news becomes more difficult to trust, right? And if those are going to be the publications that we trust, it should look like the people whose trust we are asking for. So that's one reason.
Starting point is 00:22:52 The other reason is I believe that the philosophy that black women have developed over hundreds of years says as much about black woman as it says about everyone else's experiences. And frankly, I just think we're smarter if we listen to black women. It's not to say that black women are always right, but black women do always have a right to be heard, right? And when you don't model what it means to take black women seriously in our public discourse, it reinforces the idea that people don't have to take us seriously. If you look at America's relationship with the black woman. It, it, it, it, it, it, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It, th. It is, th. It is, to to to to to thu. It is tho, thi. It is thi. It is to to to to to to to to to to thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I is thi. thi. We thi. thi. the thi. the thi. thi. the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the th ideas and if you look at America's relationship with the black woman, what would you hope would change?
Starting point is 00:23:29 I mean, you write so many ideas in the book, but what would you hope you would see change in the country? I would hope that we are at a moment where it can be taken for granted, that if you are having a conversation about anything that has implications for the body politic writ large, that you would look around the table of that conversation and know that there are voices missing without someone having to tell you. We should not at this stage of the game have to write you a letter, send you a tweet, write an essay about David Brooks and how off-track he is.
Starting point is 00:24:03 We shouldn't have to do these things anymore, that even if you don't quite understand the extent to which our contribution is important, that you should be able to look around a room and go, something is missing here, right, without a black woman having to tell you. I loved how in the book you talked about small and meaningful protests, you're try and implement in your life. For instance, you talk about how you are done code switching. You say what you love as you go, I'm not just going to be black, I'm going to try and be the blackiest black that I can be.
Starting point is 00:24:32 That's a way to say it, yes. And that's a really interesting idea. Why do you think it's so important to do that? Do you think th you th you, oh, you sound more white, ergo, you know, whiteness is associated with smartness. And then you go like, no, I'm going to be as black as you think a black person can be while still maintaining that level of intelligence. Is that part of us? Yeah. Coat switching is a marvelous cultural tradition, and I love it. I love that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm a that I'm a that I'm a that I'm a that I'm a that I'm that I'm that I'm that that that that that that I'm that I'm that that that that that that I'm as a that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thralleaseaseaseaseaseasui wawiceasui wawiceasksh. that's as a thrallehe wanananananananananananananansewiceassewananananananansewansewananananananananansewansewananananananananananananananananananananananasasasasasasasasasasasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksasksas. as associated as associated as associated as associated as associated that I is as associated that I'm able to choose not to do it. What I am doing when I do it is that I am acknowledging the fact that I have achieved certain status symbols that we tend to associate with people who don't look like me. And I want to make people uncomfortable with the fact that they are
Starting point is 00:25:16 uncomfortable with me, reconcile the fact that if you think I am anything worthwhile, intelligent or attractive or important. I want them th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th them them them them th them th them them them to the them to their their their their the the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. the the. the. the. th. the. th. the, I th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the, I'm to to to to to thean to thean thean toean thean thean thean thean. I'm thean. I'm thean. I'm the important. I want them to reconcile that with the fact that I sound like I sound, I look like what I look like, but I am what I am. It's such a powerful idea. There's so many essays that tackle so many subjects. I mean, everything from you talking about how Serena Williams had to basically you know commandeer her own treatment in a hospital because people didn't know how to treat her. You talk about the mortality rates of black women giving birth in America. You talk about your own stories where you went into your favorite bookstore and they are they took your purse because
Starting point is 00:25:59 they were afraid that you were going to steal books. Right. Which I always think is a great thing to let people steal anyway. Steal the books, whatever. My favorite part of that is they were used books. Like, give those away. They're used, man. Do you ever have the urge to go back to that bookstore and be like, oh no, I'm here to sign my own now. We have a word for that and that's called being petty and yes, yes. I have.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh man. Thank you so much for being on the show. It's always a hundred to have you here. Sick is an amazing book by an amazing woman. Tresi Macmillan caught him everybody. The Daily Show with Cover Noa, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.
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