The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trevor Speaks Out About the Murder of George Floyd

Episode Date: June 2, 2020

Trevor discusses the murders of Ahmaud Arbery and George Floyd, the Minneapolis protests, and how racial injustice and police brutality continue to impact black Americans. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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interesting about what's happening in America right now is that a lot of people don't seem to realize how dominoes connect. How one piece knocks another piece that a lot of people don't seem to realize how dominoes connect, how one piece knocks another piece, that knocks another piece, and in the end creates a giant wave. Each story seems completely unrelated, and yet at the same time, I feel like everything that happens in the world connects to something else in some way, shape, or form. And I think this news, this news cycle that we witnessed in the last week was a perfect example of that happens in the world connects to something else in some way, shape or form. And I think this news, this news cycle that we witnessed in the last week was a perfect example of that. Amy Cooper, George Floyd, and you know the people of Minneapolis.

Amy Cooper was for many people I think the catalyst. And by the way, I should mention that all of this is like against the backdrop of coronavirus. You know, people stuck in their their their their their their their their their their their their their the catalyst. And by the way I should mention that all of this is like against the backdrop of coronavirus. You know? People stuck in their houses for one of the longest periods we can remember. People losing more jobs than anyone can ever remember. People struggling to make do more than they can ever remember. And I think all of that compounded by the fact that there seems to be no genuine plan from leadership. Like no one knows what's going to be no genuine plan from leadership. Like, no one knows what's going to happen. You know, no one knows how long they're supposed to be good, how long they're supposed to stay inside,

how long they're supposed to flatten the curb. No one knows any of these things. And so what happens is you have a group of people who are stuck inside, all of us, a society, we're stuck inside. And we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, we then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, th is thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, thus, th..... th... th, th, th...... th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th, th. th is th. th. th. th is th is thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the is thi. the is thi. thean, thi. thi. thi. thi. th consume. We see what's happening in the world. And I think Amy Cooper was one of the first moments that, you know, one of the first dominoes that we saw get knocked down post-corona for many people.

And that was a world where you quickly realize that while everyone is facing the battle against coronavirus, black people in America are still facing the battle against racism and coronavirus. And the reason I say it's a domino is because think about how many black Americans just have read and seen the news of how black people are disproportionately affected by coronavirus and not because of something inherently inside black people, but rather because of the lives black people have lived in America for so long. You know, coronavirus exposed all of it. And now here you had this woman who, we've all seen the video now, blatantly knew how to use the power of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, of a, to, of, to, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, of, of, of, of, to, the, to, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, the, the, to, the, to, to, the, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the blatantly knew how to use the power of her whiteness to

threaten the life of another man and his blackness. What we saw with her was a really, really powerful, explicit example of an understanding of racism in a structural way. When she looked at that man, when she looked at Cooper and she said to him, I'm going to call 911 and I'm going to tell them, there's an African-American man threatening my life, she knew how powerful that was. And that in itself is telling. You know, it tells you how she perceives the police. It tells you how she perceives her perception or her relationship with the relationship the relationship the relationship the relationship the relationship the relationship th th th th th thiiiiiiiii- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- thi- that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thia-cou, thia-cou, thia thea thea thea thou thea thea thou thea thea tho thou thia thia that that that that that itself is telling, you know, it tells you how she perceives the police.

It tells you how she perceives her perception or her relationship with the police as a white woman. It shows you how she perceives a black man's relationship with the police and the police's relationship with him. It was, it was, it was really, it was, it was powerful. Because so many people act like they don't know what black Americans are talking about when they said. And yet Amy Cooper had a distinct understanding. She was like, oh, I know. I know that you're afraid of interacting with the police because there is a presumption

of your guilt because of your blackness. I know that as a white woman I can weaponize this tool against you. And I know that by the time we've wea we've wea we've wee we've wee we've wee we've wee we've the thi the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that by that by that by that by that by that by thi. thi, that by that by that by that by that by that by that by that that that that thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, theee, theeeeeeeeeeeeeeean, thean, thean, thi.a.a.a. theeean, thi.a. thi, thi, woman I can weaponize this tool against you and I know that by the time we've sifted through who was right or wrong, there's a good chance that you will have lost in some way, shape or form. And so for me, that was the first domino. And so now you're living in a world where so many people are being triggered because in many ways it was like a it was like a gotcha. You know it was like a it was like the curtain had been pulled back. Aha! So you do this because it's always been spoken about but this was like it was powerful to see it being used. And I think a lot of people were triggered by that.

A lot of people, a lot of people were like, damn. We knew it was real but this is like real, real, you know? I think a lot of people also angry that some of the outrage that came to her was because of her dog. And I mean, I get it, you know, but it was, it was, a lot of people felt like, a lot of people felt like it would have been great if the dog shelters had the same I guess power or or if police departments were run by the people who run dog shelters because they seemed to act like this. They didn't waste time. They were like, nope, we'd like our dog back lady, which I'm going to be honest I think was, that was a, I mean, that was a hell

a punishment. Her job is one thing taking a white lady's dog and that was a nice dog. And so that was the first domino you know it was the first domino where I felt like you could feel something stirring and all of this again is in the backdrop it's it's coronavirus has happened. The numbers have come out. You know, the story of Armad Aubrey in Georgia, that story has come out. All of these things are happening. And then the video of George Floyd comes out.

And I don't know what made that video more painful for people to watch. The fact that that man was having his life taken in front of our eyes, the fact that we were watching someone being murdered by someone whose job is to protect and serve, or the fact that he's seen so calm doing it, you know? Oftentimes we always told that police feared for their life. It was like a threat, and you know what, you always feel like an asshole when you're like, you didn't fear for your life. How did you fear for your life? How did you fear? But now more and more we're starting to see that it's like, no, it doesn't seem like there's a fear. It just seems like it's, you can do it so you did, almost knowing that there would be no ramifications.

And then again, everyone on the internet has to watch this. Everyone sees it. It floods our timelines as people. And I think... One ray of sunshine for me in that moment was seeing how many people instantly condemned what they saw. You know, and maybe it's because I'm an optimistic person, but I don't think I've ever seen anything like that, especially not in America. I haven't seen a police video come out and just see across the board.

I mean even Fox News commentators and and police chees from around the country immediately condemning what they saw. No questions, not what was he doing, not just going, no. This, what happened here was wrong. This person got murdered on camera. And then the police were fired, great. But I think what people take for granted is, it is, and it was thi, and it was thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, and their their, and their, and their, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thin, and thin, and I thin, and thin, and thin, and thin, and thin, and, and, and, and, and, even even, and, and, and, even even, and thi, and thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I th. And then the police were fired, great. But I think what people take for granted is, is how much for so many people that feels like nothing, you know? How many of us as human beings can take the life of another human being and then have firing be the worst thing that happens to us. And yes, we don't know where the case will go. Don't get me wrong, but it just, it's, it feels like there is no moment of justice.

There is no, you know, if you're watching a movie, you'd at least want the cops, you'd want to see the perpetrators facing some sort of justice. Yes, they might come out on bail, etc. But I think there's a lot of catharsis that comes with seeing that justice being doled out. When the riots happened, that for me was an interesting culmination of everything. I saw so many people online saying, these riots are disgusting. This is not how a society should be run. You do not loot and you do not burn and you do not. This is not how our society is built. And that actually triggered something in me where I was like,

man, okay, society. But what is society? And fundamentally when you boil it down, society is a contract. It's a contract that we sign as human beings amongst each other. We sign a contract with each other as people whether it's spoken or unspoken, and we say amongst this group of us us we agree in common rules, common ideals and common practices that are going to define us as a group. That's what I think a society is. It's a contract.

And as with most contracts, the contract is only as strong as the people who are abiding by it. But if you think of being a black person in America who is living in Minneapolis or Minnesota or any place where you're not having a good time, ask yourself this question when you watch those people, what vested interest do they have in maintaining the contract? Why, like why don't we all loot? why, why don't they, why? why? why? why? why, why don't they, why? Why, why don't, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. to. to. to. to. to, to, to, to to to to to to to to tha, tha? to tha? to, to, to, to. to. to. their. have in maintaining the contract? Why, like, why don't we all loot? Why, why doesn't everybody take? Because we've agreed on things.

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When you watch Ahmad Aubri being shot and you hear that those men have been released and were it not for the video and the outrage, those people would be living their lives, what part of the contract is that in society? When you see George Floyd on the ground and you see a man losing his life in a way that no person should ever have to lose their life? At the hands of someone who's supposed to enforce the law, what part of the contract is that? And a lot of people say, well, what good does this do? Yeah, but what good doesn't it do? That's the question people don't ask the other way around. What good does it do to loot target? What does it help you to loot target? Yeah, but how does it help you to not loot target? Answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, they, they, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. Yeah, thi. thi. thi. thget before was because you were upholding society's contract.

There is no contract if law and people in power don't uphold their end of it. And that's the thing I think people don't understand sometimes. Is that we need people at the top to be the most accountable because they are the ones who are basically setting the tone and the tenor for everything that we do in society. It's the same way we tell parents to set an example for their kids. The same way we tell captains or coaches to set an example for their players. The same way you tell teachers to set an example for their students. The reason we do that is because we understand in society that if you lead that is th is a good chance that people will follow that

example that you have set. And so if the example law enforcement is setting is that they do not adhere to the laws, then why should the citizens of that society adhere to the laws when in fact the law enforcers themselves don't? There's a really fantastic chapter in Malcolm Gladwell's book, David and Goliath, where he talks about the principles, what is it? It's, he talks about the principles, the principles of legitimacy and he says in order for us to argue that any society or any any legal body or any power is legitimate. We have to agree on core principles and those three principles if I remember correctly is number

one, we have to agree on what the principles are. Number two, we have to believe that the people who are enforcing the principles are going to enforce them fairly. And number three, we have to agree that everyone in that society is going to be treated fairly according to those principles. It is safe to say in this one week alone and maybe even from the beginning of coronavirus really blowing out in America, black Americans have seen their principles completely delegitimized. Because if you're a black person in America right now and you're watching this, if you're a black American person specifically and you're watching this,

what principles are you seeing? I think sometimes the thing we need to remember, and it's something I haven't remembered my whole life. Like it's, you start to learn these things, you know, when you travel the world, when you learn about society, I think, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, th, th, th, th, th, when you, when you travel the world, when you learn about society, I think, is that like, when you are a have and when you are a have-not, you see the world in very different ways. And a lot of the time people say to the have-notes, this is not the right way to handle things.

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It cannot be right because you are protesting against a 't realize is the same way you might have experienced even more anger and more just visceral disdain watching those people loot that target, think to yourselves, or maybe it would help you, if you think about that unease that you felt, watching that target being looted, try to imagine how it must feel for black Americans when they watch themselves being looted every single day. Because that's fundamentally what's happening in America. Police in America are looting black bodies. And I know someone might think that's an extreme phrase but it's not because here's the thing I think a lot of people don't realize. George Floyd died. That is part of

the reason the story became so big because he died. But how many George Floyds are there that don't die? How many men are having knees put on their necks? How many Sandra Blan's are out there being tossededed tos, tos, tos, because tos, because th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and thi, and thi, and th. And, and thi, and thi, and thi, and th. And, and th. And, and th. And, th. And, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi. How many men are having knees put on their necks? How many Sandra Blands are out there being tossed around? We don't, it doesn't make the news because it's not grim enough. It doesn't even get us enough anymore. It's only the deaths, the gruesome deaths that stick out. But imagine to yourself, if you grew up in neck, where every day somebody was out there repressing you every single day. You tell me what that does to you as a society, as a community, as a group of people.

And when you know that this is happening because of the color of your skin, not because the people are saying it's happening because of the color of your skin, but rather because it's only happening to you and you are the only people who have that skin color. And I know there's people who say, yeah but like, well, how come black people don't care when black people kill, but man, that's one of the dumbest arguments ever. Of course they care. And if you've ever been to a hood anywhere, not just in America, but anywhere in the world, you'd know how much black people care about that. If you know anything about underpolicing and overpolicing, though, you would understand how that comes to be.

The police show black people how valuable their lives are considered by the society. And so then those people who live in those communities know how to or not deal to deal to deal to deal to deal to deal to deal their. .. their their their their their their their their their their their. their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. We. I. I. I. I. I. I. And, their, their, their, their.uuu.u.u.u.u.u.u.u. It's, tome.u. And, tome. And, tomorrow. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their. And, their who live in those communities know how to or not deal with those lives. Because best believe, if you kill a white person, especially in America, there is a whole lot more justice than is coming your way than if you killed some black body in a black neighborhood somewhere. And so to anyone who watched that video, don't ask yourself if it's right or wrong to loot or don't ask yourself what does looting help?

No, no, no, ask yourself that question. Ask yourself why it got to you that much more, watching these people loot because they were destroying the contract that you thought they had signed with your society. And now think to yourself, imagine if you were them watching that contract being ripped up every single day. Ask yourself how you'd feel. The Daily Show with Trevinoa, Ears Edition. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central and the Comedy Central app. Watch full episodes and videos at the Daily Show.com. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram and subscribe to the Daily Show on YouTube

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