The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Attempts "Intellectual" Economy Speech | Rebecca Traister and Brittney Cooper

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

Desi Lydic watches Trump's "intellectual" speech on economic policy, which inevitably goes off the rails into a rant about Joe Biden's ice cream choices, Kamala Harris's laugh, and the problem with Tic Tacs. How did J.D. Vance leave behind his in Silicon Valley career to become Trump's running mate? The Daily Show presents, The DailyShowography of JD Vance: The Forgettin' Man. Plus, Rebecca Traister, New York Magazine writer-at-large and author of “Good and Mad,” and Brittney Cooper, Rutgers University professor and author of “Eloquent Rage,” join Desi to discuss channeling anger as well as faith surrounding the election to motivate action.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen on the I-Heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is the daily show with your host host Desi Leiden. This is the Daily Show with your host,i Leidick. We've got so much to talk about tonight Republican stage and intervention. Donald Trump tries to speak smart and we get to know J.D. Vance whether we want to or not. So let's get right into it with another installment of Indecision 2024. Donald Harris is crushing it. She's up in the polls, she's raising tons of money, she collected the white man infinity stone.

It all poses a big problem for Donald Trump, who's been trying everything he can think of to stop her assent. He's been insulting her race, insulting her race even more, oh, insulting her gender, even more race stuff, blah, blah, blah. But somehow it's not working. So his allies have some radical proposals for him. The winning formula for President Trump is very plain to see it's fewer insults, more insights and that policy contrast.

Donald Trump just needs to focus on the issues. Hit her with her policies first. Don't call her stupid and all kinds of names. Stay on message. Stop questioning the size of her crowds and start questioning her position. Quit whining about her. It's not gonna win talking about what race Kamla Harris is.

It's not gonna win talking about whether she's dumb. You know your campaign's going really badly when you need advice from the woman who lost by 40 points and the guy who is house speaker for less than a week. And maybe, just maybe they got through to him because yesterday he announced that he would give a major policy speech on the economy which is a big change for him, although you could tell he wasn't very excited about it. Now, this is a little bit different day because this isn't around. This is what's talking about a thing called the economy.

They wanted to do a speech on the economy. A lot of people are very devastated by what's happened with inflation and all of the other things. So we're doing this as a intellectual speech. You're all intellectuals today. Today, we're doing it and we're doing it right now. All right, I guess we're doing it. We're doing it right now. Now he understands what every woman was thinking when they slept with him. Let's just get it over with right now. Just right now.

I mean, Trump's crowd had to also have been disappointed because they were there for a Trump rally, not an intellectual speech. That's like logging on to porn hub and only getting TED Talks. I mean, I'm still going to jerk off to it. It's just going to take longer. But with just 81 days left until the election, Trump needs to focus on the issues. So let's hear this intellectual, focused economic policy speech. Crookie Joe.

He didn't do interviews either. Remember Joe? What kind of ice cream is your favorite? Vanillailla? Oh. That that was. That was. That was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that that that was that was that that that that was that that was that was that was just just just just just just just just just that was that that that that that? It's just that that that that that that that that that that that that that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It that. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It th. It thii? It's thi? It's thi? It's thi? It's just just just just just just just thi? It's just thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. It's just just just just thi. It's going do interviews either. Remember, Joe? What kind of ice cream is your favorite? Vanilla? Oh, I like Vanilla. That was George Flopodopolis. Okay. Guess you gotta warm up first. You can't just jump right into the economics.

Start by attacking the guy you're not even running against anymore. But now that you're warmed up, economics, go. You're getting out now, Joe. We can do it the nice way, or we can do it the hard way. And he's getting out. He's getting out. In fact, they're not even giving him a good spot to speak. You know, when he's speaking on Monday, Monday is not the, that's the worst day.

Monday is the worst day. That's a Garfield policy. Come on, Joe Biden is not in the race anymore. Let's focus on your current opponent. Barack Hussein Obama. Oh my God, oh my God. Girl you got to move on. He does not think about you. Okay? Your current opponent is Kamala Harris. Say something substantive about Kamala Harris. That's the laugh of a crazy person I will tell you if you haven't though. It's a crazy. She's crazy. That's the laugh of a crazy person, I will tell you, if you haven't done it. It's a crazy, she's crazy. That's the laugh of a person with some big problems.

Yeah, yeah, Kamal is the one with the big problems, definitely. Also, it is so inappropriate to insult a woman's laugh. Women are supposed to laugh. It's mandated by our pillows. You know what, you win. Just talk about whatever the fuck you want to talk about. And now they're putting her on the covers of Time magazine with an artist sketch. They don't use a picture, they use an artist sketch. I want to use that artist. I want to find that artist. I like him very much. Donald, do you really need a new sketch artist? I feel like you have plenty of sketches. Look, I hate to nitpick, but in this speech about the economy, do you think at any point you

might want to say something about the economy, do you think at any point you might want to say something about the economy? I did have something. I would show you, wait a minute. I don't know if you've seen this. I used it once. Oh, I have it. I do have it.

Look at this. Look at this. So, this is Tic-Tax, right? Yes, I mean they came out of your pocket so they might be Roofies, but... Okay, for the sake of the argument, they're Tic-Tax. What does that have to do with the economy? But that's what happened. This is inflation. This is Tic-Tac. This is...

This is inflation. This is tick-tac. This is tick. This is inflation. This is what's happened. I just happened to have somebody gave me this one today. I said, I think we'll put it up as an example of inflation. That is not an example of inflation. It's just two different sizes of breathmints. I mean, my understanding of macroeconomics is limited, but I do know for a fucking fact that inflation is not defined as big tick-tac little tick-tac. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. And by the way, Donald, if someone hands you a breathment, they're not suggesting you talk about inflation. They're suggesting someone hands you a breathment, they're not suggesting you talk about inflation.

They're suggesting you take a breathment. For more on Trump's economic agenda, we go live to Troy Iwada. to Troy Iwada. that tick-tac thing was so weird, right? You know what, you're weird, Desi, okay? Because Donald Trump is absolutely right. This is a real problem. This box of tic-tacks is big, and this one is small.

And that's inflation. Uh, no, I don't think so, Troy. Those are just two different sizes. They sell at different prices. It's not inflation. No, Desi, it is inflation. I took economics 101, which I never slept through sometimes. Okay?

There are examples of inflation in any grocery store. For example, this is soda, okay? And this is soda. Thanks, inflation. Thanks, inflation. Troy, those are just two different sizes of soda. And the bigger one is more expensive. Yeah, right. Okay, you're not getting it.

No. How about this? Okay, I bought this bag of chips last week. And today, I went back in the same aisle same aisle and instead of chips it's toilet paper? Joe Biden more like Joe single Plyton. The store probably just rearranged things those are different products Troy. You're telling me these disintegrate in salsa. These examples are not proving Trump's point. Okay, Desi, I'm gonna tell you something my economics professor told me.

Wake up! Okay? Because here's another thing for you. This suit jacket, okay, fit me perfectly two weeks ago, and then I washed it. And now look. Joe Biden? More like Joe's smaller jacket den. Troy, did you run your suit through the dryer again?

Of course I did. I'm not going to wear wet clothes, Desi. Troy, just finish your report and come back to the studio, please. Fine. God, cars are so much more expensive than they were last year. Yes, yes, that's it. That's inflation. No, Desi, the car is the same size. Oh my God, never mind.

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But what he would forget is everything else. I'm a never trump guy. I never liked him. The simple fact is, he's the best president of my lifetime. This is the daily showography of J.D. Bance, the Forget-in' Man. You may have heard that J.D. doesn't think much of life in your Democrat-run cities. But to hear him tell it, growing up in small-town Ohio and Kentucky wasn't so hot either. Our homes are a chaotic mess. At least one member of the family uses drugs.

Young J.D. was taken in by his mamma. She said, look, you're going to come and stay with me, and if anybody has a problem with it, they can talk, they can talk to my gun. Nowhere came from a family that would shoot at you rather than argue with you. When we went through things, we found 19 loaded handguns. Under her bed in her closet, the closet, the closet, the closet, the closet, the closet, the closet, tha, it's like if Tarantino directed an episode of the Golden Girls. After high school, Jady left his mama's house for a place with slightly fewer guns, the US military.

He spent four years in the Marines Public Affairs Department, which would eventually serve him well in politics, where his new boss has had many public affairs. Back home, Jadie lifted himself up by his bootstraps and government GI Bill Money to attend Yale Law School, where he would meet his future wife. Nothing would keep them apart. I love her because she's who she is. Obviously she's not a white person, but I just, I love you shit. Marriage really is about compromise.

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Yeah, I work one of the venture capital funds that he co-founded. And though Big Tech made him rich, it was the publishing world where he really made a name for himself. Jady turned his childhood pain into Hillbilly Elegy, a best-selling memoir and Hollywood film. Soon those fancy aristocrats who drink sparkling water and wear pajamas. To this day, I find the very notion of pajamas and unnecessary elite indulgence. We're begging him to join their ranks.

Should he run for office? I think that, you know, when people ask me if I want to run for office, part of me wonder is like, do they think I just give off a used car salesman behind? What? No, not at all. Soon enough, Jady was ready to be put into a certified, pre-owned, Ohio Senate seat. He had the perfect resume. Blue-collar childhood. Former Marine. Absolutely zero rumors that he had fucked a couch.

If only he hadn't said all those terrible things about his party's new god. I can't stomach Trump, I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place. You said, I've a never Trump guy, never liked him. Terrible candidate. Idiot if you voted for. Might be America's Hitler. Might be a cynical, ahole, cultural heroine, noxious and reprehensible. How could Vance run for office as a Maga Republican after all that? He would have to call upon his experience as a forgotten man, and forget it all. Look, I was wrong about Donald Trump. I didn't think he was going to be a good president. Trump may be cultural heroine, but J.D. was hooked.

The new J.D. loved D.T. with all his heart. And Trump almost knew who J.D. was. We've endorsed J.P. right? J. D. Mandel. And he's doing great. Whatever his name was, there was something about this new guy that Donald Trump liked. J.D. is kissing my ass, he wants myself. With the taste of Trump's butt cheeks fresh on his lips, Vance won his election, and the forgetting kicked into high gear. The man who once said he hated the police and respected trans people now said it was actually the other way around.

No opinion was safe from JadD.'s provide high-quality talent for folks to get their businesses off the ground. The universities in our country are fundamentally corrupt. It's really important not to just fabricate it and lie to other people. Jadie's moral flexibility propelled him into the MAGA A-list. And when Donald Trump needed a new running mate, for some reason, he tapped Vance. I love you guys. But once he hit the campaign trail, J.D.'s former friends in the media discovered that his mouth had left around more loaded guns than Mamma. Republican v.

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Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. We have two incredible guests tonight. Rebecca Tracester is a writer for New York magazine, an author of Good and Mad, and Brittany Cooper is a professor at Rutgers University and author of eloquent rage. Rebecca Tracer is a professor at Rutgers University, an author of eloquent rage. Please welcome Rebecca Tracer and Brittany Cooper. Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. Glad to be here. I am so excited to have you both on in this moment in particular. There's been a real vibe shift here with Kamla Harris entering the race.

And Rebecca, you wrote this incredible article that I felt so beautifully articulated this collective feeling that many of us have about uncertainty and the beauty of an uncertainty and what a thrill it is in this moment in time. Yeah, I mean, I'm grateful for the uncertainty and that's a hard thing to say because we live in a scary time. There's a lot to be terrified about.

There are a lot of horrible things happening around us. And in the context of that fear, we often reach for sure things, but sure things often look like the past. And when we want to make history, this campaign, we've never done this before. We've never had a campaign like this in this amount of time in these circumstances. We have a black woman running for the presidency. We don't have a model for how we do this this this this this this this this this this this this this th thi th thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi things but things but things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But things. But thi things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things things thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. to be thi. to be to be to be to be to be to be toeee is toe is toe is toea. We to thi. We thi. thi's thi's thi. But thi. But thi. But thi. I these circumstances. We have a black woman running for the presidency. We don't have a model for how we do this on this schedule at this scale with so much on the line. And that is terrifying and many of us in political terms reach for things that make us feel safe. Poles that tell us that we're going to win or even polls that tell us we're going to lose because then at least we can be prepared and we're not going to be surprised and shaken. But I actually think that right now the the anxiety,

the fear around this risk and this exciting moment is the exhilarating motivation we need because it is appropriate to this moment and the stakes and and what we're looking at and what it's going to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to do to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the the the tooooooeck.sfoeck.sfoeck.sfuseck.s. tooeck. tooeck. toeck. toeck. toeck. toeck moment and the stakes and and what we're looking at and what it's going to do is draw us into action which is the only way to move forward through the next 83 days and beyond is to let that uncertainty remind us that we have to polls and I think so many of us go to the polls and are you know watching them obsessively maybe I'm just referring to myself but why are the polls so dangerous to be watching why should we not be put hanging at all on that. I mean have any of you ever been called for a poll? None of us picks up the phone for 10 walls missed the VP's phone call because he didn't

recognize her phone number. That's right. So that tells you all you need to know about who's being polled. It's our grannies and our aunties. And while they matter, they are reliable voters, but this election is about who is going to be newly engaged and newly excited. And those of us, you know, and those folks are folks who are glued to their phones

and who are just not going to pick up for anybody that they don't know. Right. Right. Right. Brittany, you talk so much about the importance of faith in historical like these, the importance that faith has had in historical events, and organization, and social movements. How does faith play into this moment right now? Yeah, you know, faith is a tricky term

because most times people think that we're trying to, you know, draw them into the cult of organized religion. But we'll- Which is why I brought you all here today. We're going to task around the hat, take a little hoolade and we'll be on our way. Correct. You know and look we're going to leave the culting to the to the Trump camp. Ultimately faith is not just a religious project, it's a secular project and it simply means that we have to believe in things that we have not seen before in order to bring them about. Faith is the distance between what we can prove and what we think is possible. And sometimes we struggle to have faith because we don't want to be wrong and we don't want to be made a fool of. We don't want to have to risk something because our politics is

made a fool of us a lot. But I tend to think that you know it's just like falling in love everybody somebody's fool as the we want to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be tho. And so I to to to to the the the the the th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. th. And th. th. th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I th. And so I thi thi. And so I thi. And so I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. And so I thi. And so I thend to think that you know, it's just like falling in love. Everybody, somebody's fool as the Rita Franklin famously said. And so I want to be a fool for the side of saving democracy, for the side of justice and righteousness for the side of the people getting to participate in their politics for women having a say about what happens to their bodies. For trans folks getting the care that they need, and for all the elders in my life actually having health care and the things that they need to live well and thrive even into old age. Yeah.

Yeah. We know what happened in 2016 if Kamala Harris becomes president. She would be the first female president. She'd be the first South Asian person to be president. This is obviously something to be celebrated and incredibly meaningful for so many reasons. But at the same time, how should we be talking about this? How much should the campaign be leaning into this? And how much might it undermine how qualified she is

as just being the right person for the job right now? I think it's a really tricky balance, because on the one hand, you don't want to fixate on these firsts and the pure identity changes and representative changes, because there has to be substance along with that, too, right? We could be talking about Nikki Haley and have some of the same first, and we'd be feeling very different like that situation, right? So I want to say that just talking about the representative firsts

isn't enough. And yet we we cannot behave in this country as though we are a nation that has ever previously managed to elect a woman in 250 years, right? So we can't trick ourselves either into thinking that there is not a lot happening in this campaign and on these stages that we do not have models for, that we need to turn to different degrees of faith, that we need to sit in our anxiety about whether we as a country can become better, right, and become different, and and do things differently and

imagine leadership that doesn't look like the leadership we've had in the past. So it would be silly to pretend that those things don't come into it, and I think deeply dishonest about who we are as a country and about the possibility of who we could become as a country. But at the same time... The thing you got to acknowledge when you acknowledge that she's first is also all of the unreasonable expectations that come with being first. It is the moment that a corporation decides they're gonna let a woman actually run it after they've almost sunk it.

You know, we call those glass cliff assignments. Or it's that moment that so many black women have experienced. Many times I've experienced where you look up and you're the only black person in the room, the only black woman in the room. And so the stakes are incredibly high and there is no margin for error. And we've got to remember how do we balance the fact that she is first, but she doesn't get to be the exception, right? She is first what she is going to have to respond to protesters.

She is first, but she is going to have to be accountable for policy and how it actually shapes people's lives. She is first, and at the same time, people are going to expect her to be Jesus because they always expect black women to be Jesus. Meanwhile, when I think about just eight minutes ago, the 20 minutes of real that we just watched on Donald Trump, it's crazy that we're having this conversation right now. You have both written extensively about using the power of anger and using this conversation right now. You have both written extensively about using the power of anger and using the power of rage. Female politicians are not given any grace

to have anger or rage. Is there any reason why they should give a flying f-fix about that? I mean, you know, look, my camp is, you know, lean into that shit. Like, it'll, you know, look, my camp is, you know, lean into that shit. Like, it'll, you know, yeah. I have famously said that rage is a superpower because we live in a country that always does things to induce women's anger, to induce black women's anger, and then it gaslights us and tells us that we're actually irrational because we're angry at a country that says we don't have control over our bodies, at a country that is disrespecting cat ladies.

You know, in a country where women say brilliant things in meetings all the time and no one hears it until the dude in the room says the same thing. And so of course we're mad, but we're also geniuses, we're also dope, we're also joyful. These things are not mutually exclusive. And I want to pick up on that joyful thing, which is that one of the things that Brittany and I have both talked about is that anger and rage can have a lot of different qualities. It can be destructive, it can be divisive. But expressed anger, especially at injustice and power in balance and anger on behalf of making the world better can also bring people together in communion can and what we see right now the vibe

shift that you talked about there is this crucial thing happening which is that there is no question that there is a kind of fury at what's at stake motivating so many people not only on the campaign trail but the people who are organizing these calls and yet that shared anger is bringing people together what is being the to the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. And, and the. And, and the, and the, and the, and the, and th.. the the th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. And, th. th. the. the. And, and the. the. And, and the. And, and the. And, and thea. And, and thean tean tea. tea. tea. tea. te. the. And, the people who are organizing these calls. And yet, that shared anger is bringing people together. What is being projected by Kamala Harris and Tim Wals on those stages is unfettered joy. The beauty of being able, the happiness, of being able to envision a future that looks different from our past. That's right.

That's right. That's right. Rebecca, you had a really interesting piece on masculinity and the way that it's framed on on both sides, on the Democratic side and on the Republican side, where are the contrast that you see? Oh, huh? I can't think of any? They're subtle. Yes. So it's interesting because coming out of two years

of Republicans really having their clock cleaned on every reproductive rights referenda in this country. There was this thought that Donald Trump in his campaign and the Republicans more broad, they're going to stay away from abortion. They're not in a popular place on abortion., they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. So so they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're th. They're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they Republicans more broad, they're going to stay away from abortion. Right. They're not in a popular place on abortion. They're losing on abortion, so they weren't going to talk about that. What is fat, and they didn't really at the convention. What is fascinating to me is their inability to hide their loathing for women, right? They're scorn for women, so that if you if you, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if th, if th, if th, if th, if th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that, thi, thi, thi, tho, that, that, that, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, and thi, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, thoom, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, they're thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, they're they're they're they're that production, a planned show they put on last month, you

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talking fulsomely about reproductive health care and access, talking about, I have been out there listening to Doug Mhoff talk about pap smears, Tim Walls passed, you know, made period products available in school bathrooms. He signed abortion protections into law in Minnesota. He talks about his IVF journey. These are very traditionally masculine guys, right? Like football, coach, veterans. And yet they seem to be comfortable in a way that I have rarely seen Democratic men be

comfortable before, making reproductive health care and access and women's full civic participation, a clarion moral call of the Democratic Party. And that is a remarkable thing that we're watching on the left. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. You know, the only thing I would add about this masculinity is that I think that J.D. Vance is having the terrible realization that he picked the wrong daddy. He picked Trump, and really what he wanted was Tim Walls.

You know? Look, we have a politics that actually rewards men who have these embattled relationships with their fathers. It was true for Barack Obama. We're seeing it with Jady Vance. And then you have Tim Wals, who's this lovely father figure. And so it is time for America to have this reckoning around its own consistent daddy issues.

And this is the way we can solve the in-sell problem. Who knew we just needed a high school football coach? You know. I also want to say it is so important when we talked about the firstness of Kamala Harris. And often when we talk about gender and race, we behave as though the only people who have gender and race are people who are not white men and white men have both gender and race. And so I think it's really important that we keep the performances of all kinds of gender in mind when we speak critically about what's happening on this election stage.

That's right. That's right. There are 80 more days to go until the election. How are you feeling optimistic? What is the proper, healthy way to channel all of these feelings of anger and rage and uncertainty and positivity and joy? Here's a thing. I believe in faith and hope because I come from working class black people in the deep south

who didn't grow up with a lot of possibility, but who kept getting up every day and trying again. And so it's always the height of a certain kind of access and privilege when I see people assuming that we get the benefit and the indulgence of our cynicism, the indulgence of our disaffection. What it means to be a black person in this country is that we have to fight every day for new possibilities for ourselves, and I think that that's the lesson that America can take from having a black woman run for the presidency. That is what black people have taught this country, is that if we want it, we have to fight for it.

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