The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Cabinet Chaos, Sports Feuds, and Saving Democracy

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Jordan Klepper dives into Trump’s latest cabinet picks, dissecting his alliance with loyalists like Kristi Noem, Lee Zeldin, and Elise Stefanik—and learning from Michael Kosta how to make friends ...like Elon Musk. Jordan and Desi Lydic tackle hot topics in sports, from influencer scandals at the New York Marathon to Aaron Rodgers’ speculative 2028 presidential run. Harvard professor and author Robert Putnam on the decline of American community and how reconnecting could help save democracy, as explored in the new documentary “Join or Die”.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Survivor 47 is here, which means we're bringing you a brand new season of the only official Survivor podcast, On Fire. And this season, we are joined by fan favorite and Survivor 46 runner up, Charlie Davis, to bring you even further inside the action. Charlie, I'm excited to do this together. Thanks, Jeff. So excited to be here. And I can't wait to bring you inside the mind of a Survivor player for season 47. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast, wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Center, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host Jordan Klepper.
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Starting point is 00:01:04 Welcome to The Daily Show. Jordan Klepper We've got a great show for you tonight. America has chosen a direction, and now we are heading into it, barreling towards it, some might say. So, let's get right into it in our new segment, Trump 2.0, coming for the White House. I'm going gonna come. Four more years of that. Now, we all know Trump has big plans for his second term. Mass deportations, tariffs,
Starting point is 00:01:35 and finally building that statue of Arnold Palmer's... So... That's to scale. The question is, who's going to come to the White House and help Trump carry out his glorious agenda? And you know what? The man has won the popular vote. He's earned the right to pick his new team.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We owe it to him to hear him out without, you know, nitpicking. South Dakota Governor Kristi Noe is expected to be tapped as the Secretary of Homeland Security. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, if I could nitpick for just a sec, just a sec, I'm... Christie Noem for Homeland Security? Are you f***ing kidding me? She's supposed to get the border under control. She couldn't even train her dog. Although... I will say, I guess we know at least one thing. The border is under control. The border is under control. she couldn't even train her dog. Although, I will say, I guess we know at least one Mexican
Starting point is 00:02:30 who's not making it over the border. I don't know. I know, very sad, very sad. This is our new reality. I mean, this woman has no national security experience. She's the governor of South Dakota. That isn't even the best Dakota. It goes North, Fanning, Johnson,
Starting point is 00:02:50 then the building John Lennon was shot outside of, then South Dakota. But... I will say, Nome does have experienced striking fear in the hearts of terrorists. Wait, I read that wrong. Terriers. Fear in the hearts of terriers. Yeah, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You know what? I said I wouldn't interrupt. So who else is on board? I promise, promise, promise, promise not to nitpick. The former president also turning to a former House member, Lee Zeldin of New York, to lead the environment. So who else is on board? I promise, promise, promise, promise not to nitpick. The former president also turning to a former House member, Lee Zeldin of New York, to lead the Environmental Protection Agency.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Okay, just to nitpick for a second here. Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin. At the last I remember, he wasn't a big advocate for the environment. You know what? You know what? Maybe he has some good ideas. What do you plan to do at EPA? a big advocate for the environment. You know what? You know what? Maybe he has some good ideas. What do you plan to do at EPA?
Starting point is 00:03:48 We have the ability to pursue energy dominance, to be able to make the United States the artificial intelligence capital of the world, to bring back American jobs to the auto industry. We have the opportunity to roll back regulations that are forcing businesses to be able to struggle. Laughter So the head of the EPA's top priority
Starting point is 00:04:16 is protecting the auto industry, boosting artificial intelligence, and boosting business in general. Where's the environment in all this? Does the E... I mean, look at this. Look at this. This... Does the E in EPA just stand for...
Starting point is 00:04:38 Eh, f*** it. It's pretty cool how our nation's climate policy is like a battle over a thermostat. Dad comes in and turns it down, then four years later, mom turns it back up. Over and over until we drown. Truth is, when you look at Trump's cabinet picks so far, they're kind of all over the place.
Starting point is 00:04:58 You got mainstream politician Marco Rubio as secretary of state, far-right weirdo Stephen Miller as deputy chief of staff, Congresswoman Elise Stefanik as U.N. ambassador, even though she has no diplomatic experience. I mean, what common thread could there possibly be that would explain why Trump hired all of them? President Trump risks everything for us. Leading us in this fight will be a man who,
Starting point is 00:05:28 although wounded and facing danger, he stood up and raised his fist. He is the toughest man that I have ever met. Nobody has endured more than what he has gone through. Nothing, absolutely nothing will stop President Trump from standing and fighting for our great country. Donald Trump's a style icon. Gah!
Starting point is 00:05:49 Gah! Whoa. Gah! A style icon? Stephen Miller wants to put kids in cages, but that is perhaps the most offensive thing he has said. But I guess that's the uniting factor. These people are kissing Trump's ass so hard,
Starting point is 00:06:12 they've got bronzer on their nose. And, yes, he puts it on down there. He covers his whole body in it, you know, except for right here, for some reason. The most important person on Trump's team right now doesn't have a cabinet position. Elon Musk, world's richest man and guy who looks like a wax statue of himself
Starting point is 00:06:35 that you'd look at and say, man, that's a bad wax statue. Now, since the election, Trump's been getting something that Elon's 11 children will never receive. His full attention. Elon Musk who's been spotted at Mar-a-Lago basically since election day. He's been seen golfing with Trump and hanging out there at dinner. He's one of the few people sitting in this makeshift situation room that they built in Mar-a-Lago.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Elon Musk has been weighing in on some of Donald Trump's potential picks, making it clear to the president-elect who he believes should have that role. Ooh, good, good. The world's richest man is helping the president-elect run the country. I'm sure by the time Elon's done, his businesses will be unregulated,
Starting point is 00:07:21 he'll have billions in new government contracts, and it'll be illegal to point and laugh at a cyber truck. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't... Don't make fun of this. Don't make fun of it. I want to know, what else, what else is going on in the Mar-a-Lago makeshift situation room? He's also been sitting in many times
Starting point is 00:07:44 when he's been with Donald Trump on some of the calls from foreign leaders, including Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Musk happened to be at the club when Zelensky called, and Trump put him on speaker. Oh, man. Poor, poor Zelensky. I mean, hasn't Ukraine been through enough?
Starting point is 00:08:03 He's in a bunker. Russian troops are amassing outside. And he's like, don't put Elon on. Don't put Elon on. Don't, don't. Hey, Elon! Yes! Yes, I did see you jump very high. Yes! Very cool, man. Very cool. Oh, yeah, the hat looked radical, man. Cool.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I guess because Elon provides Ukraine with Internet through his satellites, this was basically a customer service call, which means when they put Elon on the phone, Zelensky was probably like, Ugh, I hate it when these things make you talk to a robot. Human operator. Human operator. Human operator.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So now Elon is by the president-elect's side with no oversight or security clearances, or even a title. Responding to speculation about his position in the new administration, Musk posted on X, I'm happy to be first buddy. Oh. You know what? Let's go back to not having a title. First buddy sounds like a sequel to Air Bud where we elect a golden retriever to be president.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Which frankly, I'd take at this point. Just... It looks nice. It looks nice. It looks nice. Just keep it away from Kristi Noem, you know? For more on the relationship between Trump and Musk, let's go live to Mar-a-Lago with Michael Kosta. Michael.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Michael. The world's richest man and the president of the United States are colluding out of the public eye. This is corruption waiting to happen. God, you're cynical, Jordan. You know, for you, the glass is half empty. But for me, the glass is a shiny mirror covered in cocaine. You may see Trump and Elon as two billionaires colluding
Starting point is 00:10:03 to promote their own self-interest, but I see a blossoming friendship between two men. You may see Trump and Elon as two billionaires colluding to promote their own self-interest, but I see a blossoming friendship between two men. And in a time when male friendship is in recession, I think that's something that we should be celebrating. No, no, no. I mean, come on. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:10:17 No, these are two wealthy moguls taking advantage of the system. Okay, so there's going gonna be some conflicts of interest. Yes, we're all gonna have Elon's computer chips installed in our brains, but what's more important, government-mandated neurosurgery or two old bros viciously vibing? No. The brain surgery thing is more important.
Starting point is 00:10:42 You know what I think? You know what I think? I think you're just jealous that you don't have a male friendship like they do. When was the last time you hung out with a male friend, Jordan? And I mean really hung out. I mean, I guess before the pandemic. A few years before the pandemic. Does my dad count?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh, no, definitely not. See, you're lonely, okay? But lucky for you, I'm right here. How many times have I said that you should get me a drink after work or that you should let me let you buy me dinner or that we should do a trip for the boys to Cancun that you pay for? I mean, male friendship is right there, my guy.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You just have to reach out with your Visa, Capital One Venture Card, and grab it. Very generous. My new best friend, Michael Kosta, everybody. We'll come back. We'll find out who won first. Don't go away. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me, the election, economics, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're gonna be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart wherever you get your podcast. The cover the one thing that really affects your life sports
Starting point is 00:12:58 for a full recap of the biggest stories in the world of jocks and straps we turn to Sports War. Get ready for battle. It's time for Sports War. Brought to you by gambling. Gambling. Don't worry, it's our little secret. What's up morons? I'm Jordan Klepper. And I'm Desi Lydic. This is Sports War, the show where we are legally not allowed to agree with each other. So, if I say Travis Kelce is the sexiest man in sports... I say no, thanks. Mr. Met can still get it. I weep for your children.
Starting point is 00:13:38 This is a special post-election episode of Sports War. It's a historic day for America. Desi has broken the glass ceiling and become the first female to wear a mask. This is a special post-election episode of Sportswar. It's a historic day for America. Desi has broken the glass ceiling and become the first female co-host of Sportswar. Whoo! Yeah. Thanks, Jordan.
Starting point is 00:13:57 This completely makes up for Kamala not winning. Instead, I get the thrill of arguing about sports with an asexual balloon animal. Let's start with the biggest issue for women on the ballot in Missouri, a woman's right to choose which team she bets on. Just in, voters have approved a Missouri Amendment 2 legalizing sports betting.
Starting point is 00:14:18 The yes votes won by just 0.3%. Missouri is the largest state to allow gambling on major sporting events. There will be a 10% sports betting tax rate. That money will then go to Compulsive Gambler's Prevention Fund and also Missouri schools. Wow, it used to be that the only way women could gamble in Missouri was with a high-risk pregnancy. But this is great news for Missouri's underfunded public schools.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Congratulations to all the kids at FanDuel Elementary. ["Daisy, Desi, Desi." Your take is as lame as that blonde wig. Look, Missouri does not deserve the majesty of legalized sports gambling. As the owner of a riverboat casino near Kansas City, this is really gonna destroy my bottom line. Some very bad people are not going to be happy.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Bye bye thumbs. That brings us to my ring-a-ding sure thing bet of the week. Which one of Jordan Klepper's family members will receive his thumbs in the mail? Brought to you by gambling. Gambling, is your marriage too stable? Try gambling. Gambling. Is your marriage too stable? Try gambling.
Starting point is 00:15:27 By the way, if I could just be serious for a moment, if you or a loved one has a gambling problem, use promo code DESIWINS, and I get $10 when you place your first bet. Whoo! Whoo! Look... If you're a newly-m minted gambling addict in Missouri, good news.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Betting on the 2028 presidential election has already begun. Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers is among the favorites to win the presidency in 2028, according to betting sites. Odds makers are giving Rodgers a 30 to 1 or 3% chance of becoming the next president, meaning if you bet $100, you could win $3,000 if Rogers is elected. Ooh, mark my words. Aaron Rogers will not be president.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Head of the CDC, sure, but... But, President, get real. His name is Aaron. We can't have a president named Aaron. That's like having an Army general named Skyler or a co-host named Desi. Jordan, you anemic twizzler. You're as tall as you are dumb as you are feminine.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Aaron Rodgers would make a great president. America has to elect someone crazier than Donald Trump in 2028. Otherwise, we'll lose our momentum. President Trump removes fluoride from our water. Then President Rogers removes hydrogen from our water. Wouldn't that just make it oxygen? That's right, Oppenheimer.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Last time I checked, oxygen wasn't making our kids gay. And yes, Aaron Rogers has taken a lot of hits to the head, but some of our best presidents have had brain damage. Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy. Now, those guys were shot in the head. Agree to disagree. Okay, which brings us to my money, go boom boom, bed of the night.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Is America ready for its first CTE president? As always, that bet is brought to you by gambling. Gambling, you won't know if you have a problem until you try it. Finally, let's move on from odd mental decisions to odd physical ones. Last weekend, a fitness influencer was banned from the New York City Marathon for life. His crime? Loving cinema.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Fitness social media influencer is banned for life from the New York City Marathon. 29-year-old Matthew Choi ran the 26.2-mile route, followed by a camera crew on e-bikes. It was all to film content, including video posted here on Instagram. This guy is a pioneer. The whole point of exercising is to rub it in everyone's faces. No, the whole point of exercise is to get in shape.
Starting point is 00:18:04 In what shape are you, a drinking straw? F*** hell. F*** it. It's about content, which is why my Christmas card this year is just a picture of me bench pressing my family. Do you know how heavy Mr. Med is? Desi, Desi, Desi, you've done the impossible. You've made me actually miss Ronny Chang. A marathon is not about content.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It's about running away from your personal demons. If you're running, there's no time to stop and think about how the kids in seventh grade said your body type was giraffe penis. And then everyone, including your teachers, started calling you GP. They printed giraffe penis on your diploma. Now you have to put it on your resume.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It's your nickname at work. Your fiancé puts it in her wedding vows. She yells it out every time she pretends to climax. What's going on? It's your nickname at work. Your fiance puts it in her wedding vows. She yells it out every time she pretends to climax. What's going on? What the hell? What the hell? What the hell?
Starting point is 00:18:48 What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? What the hell? Theoretically. All right, settle down, GP. Which brings us to my big baller bet blitz bonanza.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Which animal's penis does Jordan most resemble? As always, that bet is brought to you by gambling. Gambling, hit rock bottom, maybe there's some money down there. Well that's all the time we have for Sports War. Join us next time when we debate whether basketball should have more balls. I mean, you mean like, multi-ball, like pinball?
Starting point is 00:19:18 I mean, that's a stupid idea. Sports War. Sports War. Hey everybody, Jon Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls we're going to talk about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcast go, but how many of them come out on
Starting point is 00:19:55 Thursday was in the weekly show John Stewart, whatever you get your podcast. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is a Harvard professor and social scientist who wrote the seminal book Bowling Alone. He's featured in the new documentary Join or Die. Please welcome Robert Putnam. Professor, welcome. Welcome to the show. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Good to be here. You wrote a very influential book, Bowling Alone, a few decades ago, which sort of chronicled the demise of the American community. Right. To catch us up, what essentially is the thesis of that book and why is it still resonant today? Well, the story basically is that over the,
Starting point is 00:21:03 this book was published now 25 years ago, over the preceding 25 or 30 years before that, in other words about a half century ago, Americans who had historically been connected with one another, that's what this French philosopher Tocqueville said, we were the most connected nation in the world, that began to change. And we started knowing our neighbors less well. We started
Starting point is 00:21:29 knowing our families less well. We started, we began to slacken our involvement in community affairs, politics, but not just politics. We started going to fewer, we bowled as much as ever before. Bowling alone, but you maybe not know this, bowling is big in America. You know that half of, more Americans bowl than vote in America, so it's a big... Is that right? And bowling, that's the one where you throw the ball
Starting point is 00:21:54 in the air and you hit it with a racket, is that the one? Is that what it is? Right. Well, you notice that people, that people are still bowling, but the trend was starting that they weren't bowling in groups anymore. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:04 They were bowling essentially. Alone. Alone. Alone. Right's right. They were bullying essentially. Alone. Alone. Right. Yeah. Anyway, that's the story of the book, declining all these measures of the degree to which we were connected with one another or even trusted one another, going down, down, down.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And then the book went on to say, why is that? And we had a, I would change my views a little bit about what caused it. Is it just because people got worse and they suck a little bit more so we don't know? We don't want to hang out with people anymore? You want to see the pie chart in the book that shows percentages? I love me a good pie chart.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah, show me. Oh, I got a pie chart for you. You want to see this pie chart or this pie chart? Please. So why is it? Well, it's a lot of different things, partly. People spending more time commuting and less time for, you know, hanging out with friends.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I thought then, am I allowed to say this on this show? Let's see. Let's hear what it is. The television. Television was most of the... No, it turns out that's not true. But, I mean, I didn't think that. Television was part of the problem. Yeah, we were happy. We were... Oh, no, it's done only wonderful things for our community.
Starting point is 00:23:07 We elected a person who became fake famous on television. No, it's warped everybody's mind. We're doing it right now. You're currently warping people's mind right now. There are people who, instead of spending time with their family, were like, I'm going to watch Robert Putnam alone on television. Well, instead of having friends, we started watching Friends.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's the basic picture. You may not remember, there was a program called... Oh, I know. That was the one with George Went. They all hung out at a bar. I know everything about culture. Yes. Well, in any event, that was...
Starting point is 00:23:38 And the worst of it is I thought this might continue. Of course, I was writing the book because I wanted people to not go down this trend. And you know what happened? We continued to bowl alone. It's gotten worse in every way. Well, it does feel like we are disconnected from communities. I think people are talking about this election.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I want to get your take on what you saw. People like Steve Bannon was talking about how influential this book was. Even AOC just yesterday was talking about how we need to form these communities. People are still talking about your book and what resonates there. Do you see what happened in this last election as connected to the trends that you saw? Yeah. So Steve Bannon is Trump's guru. as connected to the trends that you saw? Um, yeah. So, Steve Bannon is Trump's guru. Yeah. And Taylor, I think, too.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Well, yeah. He's definitely part of his fashion icon. So, I'm the guru's guru. Is that the way it is? I hate that idea, but that's true. What I said then was that America was becoming steadily more fragmented, more isolated, more less connected with our, less trusting of people around us.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And that was true. And Bannon advised Trump that that was their path to victory, was to look for those people who were just completely isolated, fragmented, and didn't have any connections, and they were going to give them some real connections. And actually, the data show, I believe in data, the data show, they were right. That is to say, the more socially isolated you were, the more likely you were to vote for Trump. Well, I know there's a famous quote that says,
Starting point is 00:25:22 like, dictators prey on loneliness. Yeah. And essentially plays off of that idea. That's right. I mean, do you see, I mean, when I hear this, the idea is behind Bowling Alone and by the documentary that is out right now, it does, it points to what is good about joining communities.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I mean, I've always felt that when I'm a part of groups. I don't know if the answer to Save Our Democracy is me joining yet another improv team. I don't know if that helps. I don't know if that saves everything. But I also see, I go into the Trump world a lot. I go to MAGA events and I see in these groups, I see connection, but I also see like a lack of accountability for people. We talk about how cruelty can fester in these. Like I hear this question in this that is posed in this film, which is like,
Starting point is 00:26:07 you need to join a group to save American democracy. Yeah. But what do you say to people who are like, well, the oath keepers are letting people in? Like, how do you find the right group? Or is this a time that's reflective of people finding the wrong groups? Or people feeling alone and therefore being manipulated
Starting point is 00:26:27 by others who want to utilize that for untold means? It's a little bit of all of that. Can I use some jargon on this show? I love jargon. This show is so pro-jargon. Oh, we love pie charts and jargon on this show. The kids, they f***ing love it. My people. Throw it out.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Come on, professor. Give me some. Well, the distinction is between bridging social capital and bonding social capital. So bridging social capital are my ties to other people just like me. So my ties to other white, male, elderly, Jewish professors. That's my bridging, bonding social capital. We're all bonded together because we're all similar. And bridging social capital are my ties to people who are different from me, like my ties to, you know, I don't know, to people of a different race or a different gender
Starting point is 00:27:25 or a different age or whatever. I'm not saying bridging good, bonding bad, because if you get sick, the people who bring you chicken soup will be your bonding social capital. But I am saying that a society like ours, which is very diverse, needs a lot of bridging social capital with me so far. I mean, and so bridging good, bonding bad. You don't have to dumb it down that much. But here, wait a minute, is also the case that building bridging social capital is
Starting point is 00:27:56 harder than bonding social capital. My grandmother actually knew that. She said, Bobby, birds of a feather flock together. She meant Bobby bonding social capital is easier to build and bridging social capital. She didn't think I'd understand what I meant which is why she used the avian metaphor. But okay so we're stuck down a situation which the kind of connections we need are hard to build and the kinds of connections, you could say, sort of substitute connections, that is the bonding social capital, that's what the Proud Boys are. Is that... I'm trying to answer your question.
Starting point is 00:28:33 You did it. You used jargon and you used a nice little anecdote about the Burks. I understand... I understand the bridging capital is going to be more difficult. Where are examples where that is successful? I think right now you have a lot of people here who feel perhaps lost, disconnected from culture and or society and or their neighbors. What are examples that you're seeing of bridging this divide and finding that capital? Well, first of all, can I say there is a documentary movie that is the occasion for our Getting a Daily in Talk,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and they have a lot of, in the movie... You're talking about your movie, the movie that you're in, that follows you. Yeah. You don't have to be coy about it. This is... This medium is all about being blunt. Just saying, like, watch my f***ing movie, kids.
Starting point is 00:29:22 What I meant was the people who produced the movie, Pete and Rebecca Davis, highlight that that any of us could form right now new kinds of groups not the old-fashioned Rotary Clubs or whatever new kinds of groups but they and they're bridging and they're not about politics could I emphasize that we don't want to begin this is what AOC said we don't want to begin now by having a if we're trying to move the country back in a better direction, we shouldn't begin thinking we've got to start with the politics. We got to start with just knowing our neighbors. She meant to say bowling
Starting point is 00:29:56 leagues, she didn't. What she said was knitting leagues, okay. But so what? Are you mad she didn't reference your book? Is that what you're saying right here? No, no, because authors don't care whether we become famous. We just want to be sure we get the facts right. That's not been the case as far as I've seen it. Okay, so back. What do we do now? We have to begin local. We have to begin with kids because that's the next generation.
Starting point is 00:30:11 We have to begin not necessarily with politics and not necessarily with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids.
Starting point is 00:30:19 We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin with the kids. We have to begin local. We have to begin with kids, because that's the next generation. We have to begin not necessarily with politics. And you asked me about how do we bridge.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I want to kind of just use a personal example. I live up in a little neighborhood, in neighborhood out in the sticks in New Hampshire. We have a little neighborhood association. That's my one group. And we have a lot of things in common We all have to worry about the snow and I want to make sure that someone's gonna help me I'm getting a little old so I can't I need to tell somebody else shovel me out when it gets bad
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, and we were having a neighborhood association meeting a couple of weeks ago, and I discovered that one of these people Was a Trump supporter Now hold on. I'm making a... I know, you know that I'm making a subtle point here. So here's the theoretical point. When you want to bridge, look for something that bonds across that, right? What bonds me and this guy are who's going to shovel out, and are we going to help one
Starting point is 00:31:22 another shovel, and can we get the snowplow to actually come? That's our bonding. But just for a moment, I was putting my shell, I was enabled to put myself in his shoes and him in my shoes because we were bonded by all these other things but bridging the political divide. Maybe that's a little too personal as a story, but it's a story that illustrates that's how you do it. You don't try to force yourself to make friends with people who you think are evil. You make encounters with other people who you know are decent people. He actually would come over and shovel my sidewalks, but
Starting point is 00:32:02 he turns out also to be a Trump supporter. I don't know if that makes sense or not. Probably not. Oh, I believe it. I feel like, as somebody... As somebody who can do very little physical labor, I'm constantly looking for other people to do it for me. Yeah, you too. And if I were to bet the people who own snowplows
Starting point is 00:32:24 and that type of equipment, it doesn't necessarily happen on the blue side of the aisle. So make some friends, because you're going to need some help down the line. And we've... I just want to go back a little bit to the big picture, because I don't do, like, current events. I want to give a historical framework. How far back are we going?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Well, before you were born, 50 years ago... Bob, this is, I mean, TikTok, buddy. TikTok. Take me there. I'll be quick. Over the last 50 years, we have become 50 years, not over the last five or 10 years. We've become steadily more polarized, steadily more unequal, steadily more disconnected, that's the bowling alone part, steadily less more narcissistic.
Starting point is 00:33:10 50 years, Trump did not cause that. Trump was the consequence of that. And if Trump goes away, we're still going to have that problem that we don't know our neighbors and don't trust our friends, don't have friends. And moreover, it's class biased, by which I mean people who are college educated, people like you and me and maybe the audience,
Starting point is 00:33:30 we have a lot of friends still, but people, the two thirds of Americans who are not college educated, they are very likely to have no friends at all. Now, that is a time bomb. And I talked about it already 10, 15, 20 years ago. Not yet had success, but I'm hoping that tonight will be the beginning of my success.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Tonight is the night. America, get your friends, pull them together, sit in front of the television and watch the film and understand we can do this together. Because, dear Lord, who else is gonna move the snow off of our driveway? Join or Die is available now on Netflix. Robert Putnam.
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