The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Kidnaps President Maduro, Targets Venezuelan Oil & Ditches "America First" | Sen. Mark Kelly

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

Jon Stewart dives into the Trump administration’s abduction of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, Trump's collusion with oil companies to exploit Venezuela’s resources, and the emergence of the ...“Donroe Doctrine" as Trump threatens more international takeovers. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, who also served in the Navy as a captain and combat pilot, joins Jon Stewart after news broke that he was being censured by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth for telling U.S. service members to refuse illegal orders. They discuss the president’s “major ego problem,” why he stands by his message as the Trump administration continues to levy attacks against free speech, frustrations with Democratic leadership, and the importance of Democrats taking control of the House and the Senate to put President Trump in check. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Welcome back. Merry Christmas. Happy dear, happy on, good yon, good yonth, whatever it is. We got a show for you tonight. Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona will be joining us. Man. Now, just today, just to.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Today, the senator had his rank stripped and his retirement pay docked by the Secretary of Defense slash War Pete Heggseth slash Homelander. The senator will be joining us, and I will ask him if he knows, we do not pay our guests. But let's get right to the big story. Ladies and gentlemen, this weekend, President Trump. And an elite team of Delta Force special operators removed a dangerous. foreign dictator from power. Not that one. They're actually friends.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And quite frankly, I think, business partners. No, no, not that easy. They're also quite close. That's not, okay. I believe these two have more of a heated rivalry vibe. If you know what I mean, so it's not that one. No, that's, that one, no, that one, no, that wasn't us. Now, I'm talking about the now former president of Venezuela,
Starting point is 00:02:13 Nicholas Maduro, who was reverse iced and imported. He was actually imported to a jail in Brooklyn. But don't feel bad for him. He was a feared and cruel. dictator. Don't worry. Be happy. La la la la la la la. Bobby McFerrin karaoke? You monster. Look, I know that clip makes him seem benign, almost kind of comical. But the truth is, Maduro oversaw a repressive regime that impoverished his nation, silenced dissent, and killed thousands. La, la, la.
Starting point is 00:03:05 But his iron rule and a cappella terror came to an end on Friday night when U.S. Special Forces raided Caracas, Venezuela's only city, as far as we know, and snatched Nicholas Maduro out of his bedroom, apparently before he could even take off his sleep mask. His aura ring must have been like,
Starting point is 00:03:32 you had a bad night. You did not get good deep sleep. And as it unfolded, Donald Trump was overseeing it all from a secure location, the situation tent at Mar-a-Lago. I don't want to be a dick or a nitpicker,
Starting point is 00:03:58 but is this the most secure location? In Mar-a-Lago, behind the curtain you throw up in front of the catering kitchen? This is a matter of utmost national security. Dessert's going to have to come out through the server's entrance. I was never here.
Starting point is 00:04:19 That was me acting as though I was coming out of it. But obviously, despite the makeshift command center, this was a highly technical and complex operation that required months of training and preparation. After months of work by our intelligence teammates to find Maduro and understand how he moved, where he lived, where he traveled, what he ate, what he wore, what were his pets. Well, that does explain this photo from the raid. I hope you like eating kibble and gitmo.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Daphne. We debated before the show. Is it mildly racist that we gave him a chihuahua? Is that? Because I basically were saying it. Is that because chihuahua's from Mexico, this is Venezuela. And I thought, well, so there is some nuance to it. But still, mildly racist.
Starting point is 00:05:27 You're welcome. Now, obviously, this is actually a very fraught moment for the world. It is highly unusual for any government, any sovereign nation, to violate the airspace and territory of another sovereign nation and hit the grab and go on their president. Explaining it will require the deft hand of an accomplished statesman. Let me get there. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the president.
Starting point is 00:06:00 of the United States addressing the nation in this solemn, solemn moment. The United States Armed Forces conducted an extraordinary military operation in the capital of Venezuela. It was dark and it was deadly. Or if you look back to the Jimmy Carter days, there were different days, whether it's in Washington, D.C., where we have a totally safe city, restaurants are open. everyone's happy. They're going, they're walking their daughters.
Starting point is 00:06:33 They're walking their children, their wives. Restaurants, restaurants are opening all over Washington, D.C. So in closing, we hadn't grabbed Maduro, you'd still be taking Ubers to Ruth's Chris. Unless you think I'm making our president look cavalier in this moment, here's Trump describing how he experienced this consequential operation. If you would have seen what happened, I mean, I watched it literally like I was watching a television show. And then I flipped over to see who was on Kimmel.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I mean, can you believe he still gets the interview, Millie Bobby Brown? I mean, he's got no talent. Anyway, back to abducting the president of Venezuela. Look, no one knows how this operation is going to work out. But based on the United States track record, my guess is we're going to be really happy about this for a couple of weeks. And then 30 years from now, there will be a. Venezuelan left-fist revolution and the new government will point to this moment
Starting point is 00:07:33 as the reason our embassy there is on fire and it will absolutely ruin a Democrat's presidency. Generally, that's how this shit works. And remember, the reason MAGA was so high on Donald Trump was that he was the guy who wasn't going to get involved
Starting point is 00:07:51 with this kind of shit anymore. We do not seek war. We do not seek nation building. We do not seek regime change. And we don't want to be the world's policemen. We don't want to be. Those days are over now. No more American boots on the ground.
Starting point is 00:08:13 We're not afraid of boots on the ground. No more rebuilding other countries' infrastructure. We have to rebuild their whole infrastructure. Well, it's not like we're going to be running someone else's country. We are going to run the country. So let me get this. This is a big change in America First policy. Is it not?
Starting point is 00:08:46 And a change in policy this big is going to need some of that Trump marketing and branding magic. And the Monroe Doctrine is a big deal. But we've superseded it by a lot, by a real lot. They now call it the Don Roe Doctrine. That's the Don Roe Doctrine. That's the one when someone calls it out. You go, look, no bad ideas. But honestly, not your best work.
Starting point is 00:09:24 The Don Roe doctrine. It's obviously a portmanteau of Monroe. and Donald. I guess it's a spin-off of the Monroe Doctrine, famously adopted by President James Monroe in 1823, when he warned colonial powers not to interfere in our hemisphere. Let me let a historian explain.
Starting point is 00:09:43 But you look over here, that's Monroe, the Monroe Doctrine. Why is he up there? I think the Monroe Doctrine was pretty important, you know. That was his claim to fame. Claimed to fame? Like he ate 18.
Starting point is 00:09:58 hot dogs in one sitting? I mean, I guess it's correct. You can't really name another thing Monroe was famous for. But it's not like everywhere Monroe went. They'd be like, hey, aren't you that guy for the doctrine? Babe, get over here. It's the doctrine guy. Hey!
Starting point is 00:10:14 What are you doing in our hemisphere? I told you that would work. A little Monroe Doctrine. humor. Let's let it in. Now look, generally in American history, when we intervene in another country, whether true or not, we come
Starting point is 00:10:40 up with a high-minded pretense, liberating a people, spreading democracy, introducing baseball to the Japanese. They complained at first, but it's totally worth it. On what moral foundation will this
Starting point is 00:10:56 conflict be framed? We're going to have a presence in Venezuela as it pertains to oil, but we're going to get the oil flowing the way it should be. Seems a little on the nose. Oil, precious commodities, certainly, but not the reason a country formed 250 years ago on the ideas of liberty and self-determination would go into a country and snatch a man at night. There must be a slightly more noble pretense. We're going to be taking out a tremendous amount of wealth out of the ground. We need total access. We need access to the oil.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Sir, again, I see where we're going here. Do you mind just reframing that? I'm not quite clear on the high-minded principle behind this. In other words, we'll be selling oil. Is this your first war? I mean, what the f***? All right, let's table this for now. Senator Lindsey Graham,
Starting point is 00:12:01 you're an old hand at war mongering. You've done this a bunch. You're on the plane. Can you help this dude out with the Casas Belli and keep Trump from bringing it back to oil? They're going to be Americans alive today because he shut down a narco-terror state called Venezuela. This is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And the oil companies are going to go in and rebuild this system. God, damn it! What? We can't even be conspiracy theorists now. I think they did it for the oil. Yeah, no, I did it for the oil. Is there any other reason? Can you give us anything?
Starting point is 00:12:55 There's a lot of issues, human rights violations, political prisoners down in Venezuela. We could certainly free them and improve the lives of dissidents. Are you going to demand that Delci Rodriguez let opposition figures return or free any political prisoners? We haven't gotten to that yet. Right now, what we want to do is fix up the oil, fix up the country. Yes, we'll get the people out of jail, but first we have to liberate the oil from its ground. prison. That oil's been locked up for millions of years, yearning to burn free. Obviously, I'm being cynical. It's not purely for oil. Even Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnik on the plane
Starting point is 00:13:41 could tell you that on his way out of the bathroom. They have steel, you have minerals, right? All the critical minerals. They have a great mining history that's gone rusty. So steel, aluminum, But minerals. These motherfuckers are going full conquistador in front of our eyes. I mean, they got oil, steel, minerals. Oh, and don't forget about the spices. Spices. We'll load our ships with cinnamon and cardamint and oil and everything bagels.
Starting point is 00:14:18 You'll see. And they might have gotten away with it too. But our country is a democracy. So bad news, Don Roe, your little oil heist is going to have to get past the Democrats and Inspector Schumer. So I've been talking to so many members of my caucus today. Everybody is very, very just totally, totally, totally troubled, worried. History has its eyes on...
Starting point is 00:15:00 Well, if it were two totalies and one very, I'd say Trump is getting off Scott Free. But three totalies and two veries? And trouble worried? I don't want to say the president doesn't respect the Democrats. But he did not brief them before or after this attack. Now, you could say that was in the interest of national security and operational confidentiality. If not for this one group, he did speak to.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I spoke with the oil companies. Yes, of course. I have. Speak with them before an operation to place. Yes. Before and after. And then I told Pepsi and the Biscope. Cullagard, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:16:00 What's the suitcase company on Instagram? I told them. I told hymns. I told her. I let the president of Zins shoot some missiles. But I didn't tell any of the Demax. I don't feel bad for the Democrats. They will be totally, totally, totally, very, very fine.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Probably even gain a seat in the midterms. The people I feel sorry for are the Trump defendants, the defenders, the sycophants, who haven't received the memo that we no longer have to frame our adventurism in the ideals of our great country. And this is a very strong way to support democracy. Nothing greater than an American president who liberates people. Liberated them from a strong man who's been hold.
Starting point is 00:16:52 by force and intimidation this country hostage. We're not about nation building. The president doesn't want us natural resources. We don't want their oil. Oh, poor sweet Brian kill me. Sweet, sweet Brian. Trump already explicitly said he wants their oil and democracy.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Trump has already said he wants Venezuelans to freely choose their lives. choose their leaders as long as those leaders are acceptable to us. He's already said he's going to select who will be their next leader. And guess what? This ain't a one-off. Columbia is very sick, too, run by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States, and he's not going to be doing it very long.
Starting point is 00:17:44 By the way, you have to do something with Mexico. We need greenland. Cuba is ready to fall, you know? Let the word go forth to a new generation of Americans that if we need shit and it's not too far away we are going to take it
Starting point is 00:18:04 anything else you want to take over I think there's still some time to go after Warner Brothers Discovery I mean America doesn't have Netflix money but we will after we get that sweet oil and by the way fucking Lindsay Graham honestly
Starting point is 00:18:21 I have never seen him happier like a leprechaun and a bowl of fucking lucky charms I think we're going to go after Cuba yeah boss that sounds real good boy it's real good look
Starting point is 00:18:42 this is all exhausting and exposes the Gulf of America not the body of water. The real Gulf of America is the gap between the high aspirations that embody the founding of this country and the thuggish gangsterism that this crew thinks makes us great again.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And if I may offer the news media, New Year's resolution, it's that I don't ever want to hear again about the ramifications of how Trump's actions however counter to what he promised in his campaign or the files that he might release might alienate his base. Do you expect to see some splits in the MAGA movement?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Will the MAGA base start to break away? Why didn't a riff with his MAGA base? How's it going to play for MAGA? It'll play fine! For MAGA! They'll love it! Their fervor against intervention will be only matched by their delight
Starting point is 00:19:38 in this intervention. There is no material on earth more malleable than the hive-mind connection between Donald Trump and his acolytes and no matter how many times he betrays the principles they claim to love him for they will react over
Starting point is 00:19:53 and over with the exact same refrain don't worry be happy la la la la when we come back Senator Mark Taylor to join us they'll go away
Starting point is 00:20:15 Welcome back to the Daily Show. He is, oh, you're going to want to hear the resume. You're going to want to calm down to hear the resume. My guest is tonight, a retired Navy captain, combat pilot, former astronaut, now senior senator from Arizona. Please welcome to the program, Senator Mark Kelly. Sir. Hello.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Great to be here. So, how was your day? Uneventful. Good. Big surprise this morning. Big surprise. I was going to be talking you all about subsidies for health care. And then this morning,
Starting point is 00:21:15 You could just explain very quickly, Secretary of whatever he wants to call it, Pete Hegseth, censored you, stripped you of some, what exactly did he do? Well, first, let me back up to November. Myself and some of my colleagues, we put out a little video, and we just said to members of the military, don't follow illegal orders. We stated the law. Donald Trump didn't like that. About five of you guys, six of you guys.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah, six of us. Yeah. It was pretty basic. It was like, you know, the imagined video. for senators, but okay, I was with you. We thought it would get, like, no reaction. Donald Trump said, I should be hanged, executed, prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Wow. And then when the hanging thing, I guess they couldn't figure out how to do that, you know, setting up the gallows in front of the Capitol didn't work out so well five years ago. So then they got the minion, Pete Hegsaf. Yes. By the way, to, like, try to prosecute it. I don't know that this is helping you right now.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But here's the thing. All right. They're trying to intimidate all of us. Of course. Don't say something they don't like. And especially for members of the military, retired members, like me, keep your mouth shut or they're coming after you. They're going to take away your pension. So this is much bigger than me.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But they only came after you. Why did they not come after there's five or six other people in the video? It's kind of technical. I'm retired Navy. I was in the Navy for 25 years. So I have a whole career. So it's easy. They can come after you because you happen to serve longer?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Longer, exactly. Yep, because I went over 20 years. I'm a retired member of the military, so they were like, I was the target. But this is not just about me, right? And that's why I'm not backing down from these guys. Right. Because, John, this is serious. No, it is serious.
Starting point is 00:23:09 First they come after the senators and I said nothing. And then they'll come after the talk show host. I promise you that. I wouldn't be surprised to see them threaten, you know, network television. Audience members. Exactly. Don't clap too hard. The thing that was weird.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Don't worry, they don't. The thing that's took me is weird. So in the message that I saw today, PDAX has said that you were being censored because you told service members not to follow. lawful orders. I watched the video. It could have used music. But I watched the video.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You clearly didn't say that. You said don't follow unlawful orders. So what is the due process? What gives him the ability to strip you of something when you didn't appear to do what he is saying that you did?
Starting point is 00:24:11 Well, he has been appointed as the Secretary of Defense. Now, let me be clear about this. Okay. This guy is by far the most unqualified Secretary of Defense this country has ever had. It's not even close. So I would contend, first of all, he doesn't know what he's doing. Right. But there is tremendous power in that position. And in this administration, I mean, the truth doesn't really matter at this point. I'm aware. They're going to say what they're going to say. They're going to do to me, whatever
Starting point is 00:24:44 they can figure out i'll i'll fight it like i've got so is this is an executive order is this a legal process uh are they laying out evidence again because i read if if i may uh this is a a memo that you received this is a not the official memo this is well actually from my printer no but this is but i want to say uh this is why they're saying that you were uh being censored uh you identified yourself as a captain in the united states navy and stated we want to speak directly members of the military. This administration is pitting our uniformed military against American
Starting point is 00:25:20 citizens. You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. That sounds like... What's what we said? And that's the law. And he said you were telling them to refuse lawful order. Which is not true. But there's also
Starting point is 00:25:36 stuff in there that's ridiculous. He goes on to say and this is the part that I thought was sort of bonkers. On November 20th, 20, 25, you issued a joint statement defending the video and reinforcing
Starting point is 00:25:51 your call for refusal of what you characterize as unlawful orders. Well, you can characterize it that way. That's what you said. You criticized military leadership for firing admirals and generals, in quotations, and surrounding themselves with yes men, also in
Starting point is 00:26:07 quotations. Asserting you would, and they bolded this, always defend the Constitution. And in that Constitution, in Article 1, I'm in the United States Senate, I'm on the Armed Services Committee, my job is
Starting point is 00:26:23 oversight. I voted for those admirals and generals. They fired them. And this guy's surrounded by a bunch of yes men. They didn't like that I said that. But you're a United States Senator. And if you go on the floor of the Senate and say,
Starting point is 00:26:38 the Secretary of Defense is surrounded by yes men, they can go, that's it. Your pension is gone and your rank is gone. That is what they're trying to do. I am going to do everything in my power not to allow them to do that. What's so interesting to me is this entire episode speaks of something. I, it's, what's so interesting to me is this entire episode speaks of something. inherent in the character of this administration, and that is fragility.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I don't think I've ever seen strength portrayed in this manner, this smacks of weakness and fear. When people have the power and the respect, they don't need to be petty. This is petty. It's a reflection of the person at the top. It always is. in any organization. I've run things before in my career.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I was a commander of the space shuttle. I had, you know, adhered to a set of values with my people, and I wanted certain stuff out of them. I expected things. I also, in my case, I expected them and demanded that they often disagree with me. That's not this president. And I think he's got a major ego problem.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I mean, here's a guy who avoided the draft five times. Yeah, he puts his name on. The only other people that put their name on everything are eight-year-olds going to camp. Like, this is, he just writes his name on everything. And Kim Jong-un. Yes. And Stalin. But let me ask you, so is there anything in retrospect when you think about the video?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Because it is, the idea that no one was going to react to it probably doesn't seem realistic. When members of the United States Senate and make a direct appeal to camera to service members, like that's going to get attention, especially in this. environment. Is there anything that you would do differently about that video? Forgetting about now not, you know, not cowing before somebody threatening your speech, but in retrospect, was it the right way to send the message you wanted to send? It was the right way and the only thing I would change is what you said earlier. Better music. That is it.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Can I tell you my... Because the message, you know, was important right now. It was especially important. Let me tell you why. This president, when he was running in 2016, talked about killing the family members of terrorists. That means women and children, murdering children. He also talked about shooting U.S. citizens in the legs. He has recently talked about sending U.S. troops into cities for the military to train. He's done it.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Well, and then train on U.S. citizens. What does that mean? Right, right, right. So as a member of the military, You thought there was an urgency. I felt an obligation. An obligation to send a message and also to stand up to this president. The thing about it that maybe struck me, if I may be slightly critical, is it felt like people in power in our government putting the onus of the knowledge of the nuance of the nuance of that type of law in the hands of.
Starting point is 00:30:11 rank and file that I worry that putting that burden on like I don't know the ins and outs of whether the strikes on those boats are illegal or legal and I would assume that there are probably a lot of soldiers who might not isn't there something to senators taking on that task themselves and not necessarily maybe outsourcing it to rank and file that might not be as versed in what is legal and what isn't. Isn't that a hard decision for them? Well, let me explain this as plainly. Yeah. Plainly as I can. This is a question about what would a reasonable person think under these circumstances? Is that the standard? That's the standard. It's not nuanced. It's not complicated. If a reasonable person would think that this thing that they are asking me to do is
Starting point is 00:31:03 illegal, you have an obligation. It's not an option. You have an obligation not to follow those orders. So are the boat strikes illegal? Well, so I've been asking this question for a long time. I'm on the armed services and the Intelligence Committee. Right. They have some complicated legal rationale, 40 pages of why these are legal.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It's questionable at best. And by the way, at first it was fentanyl, then it was cocaine, then it was about regime change, then it was about oil. I understand. So. But what I'm, do you see my point? I totally see your point. I don't. But our point, our point,
Starting point is 00:31:40 is to members of the military who don't get reminded of this often, when something is clearly unlawful, you have an obligation not to follow those orders. It's a pretty simple thing. And we've seen in our history multiple times when even under those circumstances, members of the military have done stuff that was clearly over the line.
Starting point is 00:32:01 We did not want that to happen. Under the Obama administration, they did extrajudicial killings of an American citizen through drone strikes, like we criticize that. That's my point is there's enough gray area in some of these actions. I mean, is any of this legal under the AUM, you know, under... There's no AUMF for Venezuela right now. No authorization.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Right. But everybody is grabbing these authorizations that were given during the war on terror and justifying bombings in Libya and justifying. My question to you is, and this has been something that's been somewhat difficult for Democrats to feel. there's a helplessness right and what we're hearing is you guys got to fight back you've got to resist this you're in the army you've got to resist the illegal orders you're in the streets you've got to take to the streets and we're looking at washington and going you got chuck schumer going we're very very it gets me i get a little gassy like it's can you understand why as an outside observer
Starting point is 00:33:05 I totally understand. It's really frustrating and an abdication of leadership, it seems. It is incredibly frustrating. I understand why the American people are freaked out, frustrated, unhappy, unhappy with the Republicans, unhappy with us. We have to do better. We have to address the issues that matter to the American people right now. Venezuela is not solving their problem in trying to pay their rent or buy groceries or put their kids through school. That's not the focus that this president.
Starting point is 00:33:35 should have right now. And it certainly will not be the focus. You know, hopefully after 2026 or after 2028 when we have different people in charge. We can solve a lot of these problems. These are, some of them are challenging. But I feel that when Democrats are in charge, we often try to address issues that matter to the American people. What this president is doing is he's enriching himself, his family members, his friends, his cabinet members. oil company executives who that was my favorite part multiple times he didn't brief congress
Starting point is 00:34:11 but he briefed the oil executives but in that sense do you think congress still has have they abdicated their uh role as a co-equal branch of government to the point that you're not going to be able to get that back even if democrats don't get a super majority in the senate and regain the House, what role do they have in possibly stopping all of this? There's a huge difference between where we are now, and yes, Congress has abdicated its authority. Even the idea that they're having a vote on whether or not to continue the authorization for force in Venezuela, like, why have we over these past decades just allowed executives to take these militaristic actions with no repercussions?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Weak members of Congress that have allowed that to have allowed that to have. happen over the years. What are their names? Which ones? Name them! I think one of them was on that plane standing. Yes. He's very happy to do it. But let me just say, you talked about supermajority. Yeah. We don't need that. We need to win. We need to win elections in 2026. We need people to show up and vote. And if we can take control of the House and the Senate, we've got tremendous power to put this president in general. check to call people down and have investigations and consequences for the actions that he is taking do you I think do you believe that if Congress were to take back whatever those rescissions
Starting point is 00:35:53 were on appropriations that had already been made or they did those votes do you think he would abide by them because it's very clear like for instance in the TikTok situation. Congress voted so that TikTok had to be shut down. Or sold. And he just gave it to one of his friends. Yes. So, and he didn't sell it when he was supposed to sell it. So I guess my question is, what mechanisms, I'm trying to figure out what the mechanisms are anymore, because in the old days, it was impeachment. That's clearly now a flawed political process as well. What are the ramifications? better if we have levers of power right now we don't right and then the the other thing i think that's unprecedented about the situation we find ourselves in is the president of the united states
Starting point is 00:36:41 is a convicted felon 34 felonies right but they view that as an illegitimate process that's part of the issue he was right by a jury it's not illegitimate do you deal with him at all do you have any any personal interaction with the president or with the people on his staff or with uh even Like, do any of them, is there any communication? Well, he, he called for me to be hanged. He did not invite me to play golf the next time. So, no, listen, I can't, I can't imagine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 But that's what I mean. Is there, does Senator Thune come up to him and say, he knows you? He knows your heart. He knows the service you've given to this country. No, not. I mean, usually I don't get into details about what, John Thune did not say that to me. Did anyone? I mean, when the President of the United States threatens you specifically for doing something you didn't do, do any of them say, hey, man, I know you were in the Navy for 25 years, I know how much you've given to this country.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I'm so sorry, let me see what I can do to broker this. Well, some of them, like Lisa Murkowski as an example, came out publicly, very strongly. Just today, Tom Tillis, basically said that letter. He said that's a bunch of bullshit. Right. I'm paraphrasing for Senator Phillips. He said that's a bunch of bullshit. And then I have other folks that come up to me and say, hey, yeah, this is really, this is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And I would say to them, hey, are you going to say something publicly? And they'll say, well, this is a food fight. When it turns into a knife fight, I'll say something publicly. So I don't know if today's the knife. What's more knife fight than I want him hanged? Like how much more knifey does it get? Well, maybe this, maybe this is it. I don't know. We'll find out.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So what is the process now? What has to happen? You go through an appeals process? There's a second part to this when they decide, you know, details about what they're going to do, how they're going to demote me. And then there's an appeals process. I guess I can, you know, file a federal lawsuit. But I will do everything that's appropriate in this circumstance to make sure that they know that this is unacceptable, that they cannot do this to people,
Starting point is 00:39:00 but also to make sure that the American people know that you can't be stifling people's freedom of speech. We have a right in our country to speak out about the government, to say things about the president. They can't take that away from them. You know what I just realized? Maybe the better strategy would be, don't be a senator to speak out if you really want freedom in this country,
Starting point is 00:39:27 be a CEO of an oil company. or run an AI company because they apparently have carte blanche to do whatever they want to do. So he surrounds himself with. Right. You know, my understanding he's got his cabinet members and he's got CEOs around him and that is it. Well, we're living in the upside down when a person that has given his entire life to public service in America at great cost, not just to yourself, but to your wife, who is Representative Gabby Giffords, who's also here tonight. who's also here tonight.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And has, given so much, she out there to take a shot, there you go. Um, yeah, let me, yeah. It's a remarkable thing that's happened in this country where your service has turned against you and the sacrifice that your family has gone through in the activism. It's really, it's disparating.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It is. We're going to get through it, though. Well, I know you will because you're going to continue to fight. You're incredibly resilient, and the people support you. And we really appreciate you being here on the program. Thank you very much. Thank you for more, Kelly. We'll take a break, and we'll be right back on this.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Hey, let's our show for tonight. But before we go, we check in with Euros for the rest of the week. Ronnie, what do you got for it? Come on, baby. Talk to me. John. What do you got? Very big week for me. Not only am I hosting this show, I will be headlining a very special venue in Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They had a bunch of unexpected cancellations. so I am in there, baby. Are you doing stand-up at the Trump-Kennedy Center? What? Of course not. It's called the Trump Center now. The Kennedy part was too confusing. And it's not stand-up. I'm doing a one-man Asian remake of Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:41:49 That's what was on the schedule, so that's what I'll be doing. And yes, I will be rapping. Give me a beat. Writing a declaration. for this nation. Yes, I'm Asian. What a sensation. Ron and sharing, everybody. Here it is, your moment is that. That doesn't work. Unlike Obama, President Trump has not turned his back on the people of Iran.
Starting point is 00:42:11 So I pray and hope that 2026 will be the year that we make Iran great again. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching the Daily Show. wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. This has been a Comedy Central podcast.

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