The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Pulls Back on War with Iran & The Plain View Project Exposes Police Racism | Elaine Welteroth

Episode Date: June 25, 2019

President Trump makes a last-minute decision against bombing Iran, a database exposes cops' racist Facebook posts, and author Elaine Welteroth discusses "More Than Enough." Learn more about your ad-c...hoices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:03 I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show.. It it it. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's. to to the. to to to to to to to to to the. the. to to to to the, the, the th, th, th, th, the th, the th, the the th, the th, the the the the the the the th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the the the the the the t ti ti ti ti. ti. ti. the the the the the the the the the the the smartest way to hire. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about. All the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking
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Starting point is 00:02:34 I'm Trevor Miller. Our guest tonight is the former editor and chief of Teen Vogue here with a new book called More Than too'n'a'eat our guest tonight is the former editor and chief of Teen Vogue here with a new book called More Than Enough. Elaine Walter Roth is joining us everybody. Also on tonight's show, America went to war and then didn't. There's white people at the BET awards and why Somali pirates are actually the good guys. So let's catch up on t 2019 BET Awards. It's the show that celebrates Black Entertainment and gives us a break from reruns of Martin. And as always, it was a night to remember.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Tons of Star Power was on display during the BET awards, including an opening performance by rapper Cardi B. Brianna presented the legendary Mary J. Blage with the Lifetime Achievement Award but Tarragi P. Henson presented the ultimate icon award to writer, director, actor, producer, Tyler Perry. Flunas Ex and Billy Ray Cyrus also sharing the stage performing Old Town Road. The country Rap Smash had everyone out of their seats. That's right. Billy Ray Cyrus got a standing ovation at the BT Awards. Yeah. And yeah, I know black people give standing ovations everywhere.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Comedy shows every Sunday at church, the dentist's office. But still, we're talking about a white dude in a cowboy hat named Billy Ray getting an ovation. That's the next level. And honestly, I love it. What a time to be alive? Because imagine if you woke up from a 10-year coma and I told you that Donald Trump was president, Kim Kardashian was reforming the criminal justice system, and
Starting point is 00:04:21 Billy Ray Cyrus got a standing ovation at the Black Entertainment Television Awards you'd be like, oh am I still in a coma and why am I getting a standing ovation right now? But you know what I really love about the BT Awards is it's also an opportunity to see Black Excellence not just in front of the camera but I'm talking about the people in the background like for instance my man over here who lost his seat then he thinks he found it, and then he's like, nope, nope, no, that's not my, no, all right, I'll see y'all at the afterparty. And then there's this dude who's straight up using the BET awards as tinder. Look at that, look at to all of last night's winners, especially to the winners of best performance
Starting point is 00:05:08 by an ensemble cast, Jassy Smollett and the ripped Nigerian brothers. What a performance, guys. What am I, who did that joke? Who did that? It was two trump supporters. Moving on. While black people are winning awards, Democrats are trying to win black people's hearts, which is why this weekend all 250 Democratic candidates descended on South Carolina to eat fried food and pitch themselves to voters. Democratic hopefuls on the campaign trail trying to drum up support in an early primary state. The South Carolina primary is more than 250 days away, but these candidates are all down
Starting point is 00:05:41 near they were at a steaming hot fish fry trying to make the case to African-American voters. Congressman, that is some damn good fish. Thank you for the fish fry. Whomever the Democratic nominee is, we have to stay together and elect a Democrat. We are going to bring the American people together. We may be in the midst of a primary, but when the primary is over, we become a united force. Why are you all yelling into a microphone?
Starting point is 00:06:10 A microphone does a yelling for you! A poor microphone. 21 Democrats all just ate fish and then spat all over that thing. The microphone's so toxic it's going to be the next season of Chernobyl. That's what it's going to be. Anyway, we would love to go more in depth about the fish fry, but honestly, nothing big happened. And that's the problem with having 21 candidates at an event.
Starting point is 00:06:36 No one has any time to say anything meaningful. Every event is just like, hello, South Carolina. That's been great. So we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we we will we will we will we will we will we will we will we'll we. We we. We th th th. We'll have we'll have we'll have we'll have the th. We'll have th. We'll have th. We'll have th. We'll have th. th. We'll th. We'll have th. to have to have th. We'll th. We'll th. We'll th. We'll th. We th. We, we'll th. We th. We, we'll th. We, we will, we will, we will, we will, we'll th. We, we will, we'll th. We, we'll th. We, we'll th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to th to to to tho to to to tho tho to tho th that that that that that we'll have to wait until the Democratic debates to see what their policy ideas actually are. And speaking of policies, let's move on to our next story. Over the past year, the Department of Homeland Security has come under fire for the way it's been treating asylum seekers at the border. And despite the criticism, things just seem to be getting worse. This week, Congress will consider a plan to send 4.5 billion dollars in humanitarian aid to the border, where facilities are overwhelmed with a record number of families. One doctor who recently visited a center in Texas, described the facility as torture.
Starting point is 00:07:18 She says children were living in filth without soap, toothbrushes or other basic sanitation. Journalist and novelist Michael Scott Moore, who was abducted by Somali pirates, tweeted this. Somali pirates gave me toothpaste and soap. Yeah, that's just flat out embarrassing. Somali pirates treated their hostages better than how America is treating refugee children at the border. I feel like somewhere right now, that pirate from Captain Phillips is saying, America refugee children at the border. I feel like somewhere right now, that pirate from Captain Phillips is saying,
Starting point is 00:07:47 America, look at me, look at me. I am the humanitarian now, huh? Actually, I feel like maybe Somali parrots are pissed off about this tweet, because they don't want to be seen as nice guys. Yeah, they're probably like, oh no, now that they know about the toothpaste, they're going to know that we are soft, huh? This is a disaster.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I can't even look at myself. Look at myself! I don't deserve to be the captain. And by the way, I really hope that wrong lesson from it. Yeah, his advisors would say, they would say, sir, Somali pirates treat their hostages better than we're treating children. He'd be like, so does that mean we give the children to the pirates? Be like, no, no, sir. So the pirates should run ice now? No, no, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So then I'm in it for the headlines. Let's move on to our main story. The USA versus Iran. Over the past week, tensions in the Middle East have ramped up bigly after Iran shot down an unmanned American sky dildo. And now, America said that the drone was shot down over international waters, but Iran said it was flying in their airspace. And we're learning that on Thursday night, America almost went to war. In just 24 hours ago, last night the US was within minutes of striking Iran, but President Trump suddenly stopping the strike before it could happen.
Starting point is 00:09:21 President Trump tweeting this, we were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on three different sites when I asked how many thly the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the the the the th. th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thea. thean thean thean thean thean thean thea. thea. thea. thea. the. theeting this, we were cocked and loaded to retaliate last night on three different sites when I asked how many would die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a general. Ten minutes before the strike, I stopped it. Not proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. Sweet Lord, America was 10 minutes away from bombing Iran. And who stopped it? Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah. What's that? Who ordered the strike? Also Donald Trump. The point is, we are at peace, thanks to and in spite of President Trump. And can we just take a second to acknowledge how often this happens? Trump takes us all to the brink of a crisis and then he's the one that pulls us back at the last second. Sometimes it feels like there are two different Trumps making these decisions.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And you know what, like maybe they are? Maybe he has an identical twin running around the White House, you know? It's like one of those sister sister situations. Yeah. I mean that would explain all of the flip-flopping. In fact, it would explain everything. It would be like, Mexicans are rapists. And some of them are good people. I'm going to release my tax returns. No, I'm not. I'm going to play golf. I'm also gonna play golf. So as you saw in the president's tweet, the reason that he called up the missile strikes is because 10 minutes before the launch,
Starting point is 00:10:49 he found out how many people could die in a strike. And to him, a drone wasn't worth taking human lives. And honestly, I commend him for even saying that. But now, people are shooting down his story like it's an unmanned sky-dildo. The Washington Post today reporting the president had been briefed hours earlier about potential risks and casualties and was supportive of military action until around 7 p.m. when he appeared to change his mind. This just doesn't add up that if when the president meets with his top Pentagon people,
Starting point is 00:11:22 they give him a very thorough list, a menu of targets and say you can hit this target, you can hit that target, if you do, here are the possible casualties, they run through the whole thing. Yeah, according to multiple people, the president's story doesn't make sense. Because they say a president doesn't find out about potential casualties ten minutes before a strike. Those numbers are actually presented, to, to, to, to, the, to, the, the, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thiiia, thia, thia, th.a, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, and, thi, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is a thii.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. thia.a.a.a. t thia.a.a.a.a. thi. thi. Those numbers are actually presented when the strike is proposed. In other words, they give the president a menu of options, and then he picks what he would like to do. And I think that's where this all fell apart.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You see, this isn't a guy who uses menus. thoo'n'eight thrown. thi this is. Give me that one with an extra that one. That's him. And I'll be taking a stroke in the ball pit. Let me know when it's ready. Now, as much as we would like, we would like to believe that this happened
Starting point is 00:12:14 because Trump didn't pay attention in a meeting, it might actually be more complicated than that the president may have been given two different sets of casualty numbers. Yeah, that's what happened. That's what they're saying happened. And that wouldn't be surprising because it turns out there are two different factions in this administration and they've both been pulling Trump in very different ways. Sources tell CNN, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton both favored striking Iran, while Altide advisors reminded him of his promise to get the US out of wars not in them. Vice President Mike Pence supported the planned military
Starting point is 00:12:53 strike on Iran but also agreed with the president's decision to stop them. Wait what? The vice president supported launching airstrikes and not launching airstrikes. I've got to say the last thing I expected to hear about Mike Pence is that he swings both ways. I'm like, sir I think we should strike Iran. I don't want to do it and you shouldn't sir a great decision. What a straight-up kiss ass? I don't want to do it and you shouldn't sir a great decision. What a straight-up kiss ass. He's like, sir, I think we should strike Iran.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I don't want to do it, and you shouldn't, sir, a great decision. So the hawks were pushing Trump into war, and the doves were urging restraint. And I don't know what the doves told President Trump, but it looks like for now it's worked. The President says if it comes to war, the U.S. will quote, obliterate Iran. But what he really wants is talks, aimed at a new deal to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons. If Iran wants to become a wealthy nation again, become a prosperous nation, we'll call it, let's make Iran great again.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Does that make sense? Make Iran great again. Wait, what? Make Iran great again? So in 48 hours, Trump went from threatening Iran to pitching a mega franchise in Tehran. And I'll be honest, I don't know if Miga has the same ring to it. And it could be a lot of trouble if Iran ever pisses Trump off. He'd be like, all right, they change their mind, so we're switching it to never Iran great again.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I'd be like, sir, no, I don't think we should write. Change it now! Change it to never! Sir, look what you've done. Oh, my bad. Look, if you pay attention, it's pretty clear to see what's happening here. Trump doesn't want to go to war with Iran, right? And he also doesn't mind sitting down with them to make a deal. Feels like the truth is, he just doesn't want Obama's nuclear deal. So Iran, here's all you need to do. Take the nuclear deal you already had, replace Obama with Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Turn the whole thing gold for no reason. And most importantly, don't forget to use pictures. It makes it easy for him to decide. Yeah. That's a deal both Trump's team are up behind. All right, we'll be right back. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter.
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Starting point is 00:16:46 but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the daily show. Law enforcement. Law enforcement. Historically, men of America's police departments have been strained, the relationship have been strained with their minority communities.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And over the past few years, there's been an increased focus on how they can improve. Some people think that body cameras are the answer. Some say America needs more diverse police forces. Personally, I think all police should have to always ride segues. Yeah. First of all, I think it's adorable. And secondly, you can't shoot anyone because you need both hands to steer. You'll be like, free, ah, free, ah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Now, just this weekend, presidential candidate, Pete Budajjjj he had to leave the campaign trail to deal with a police shooting in his own city, where many residents have blamed racism for how the police treat black people in their own town. But the sad truth is that this is a nationwide problem. In fact, recently, the Plainview Project did a review of the social media posts of police officers across the country, and the findings are already making waves. This morning, the country and the findings are already making waves. This morning the Philadelphia Police Department under fire. Out the street.
Starting point is 00:18:08 72 of the city's police officers taken off the streets and placed on administrative duty under investigation for allegedly posting offensive and racist statements on social media. The Facebook post in question contained discriminatory opinions. If our country was all Caucasian, the homicide rate would drop 70%. Perhaps we should be very suspicious of all Muslims in this country, said another. Or encourage violence. It's a good day for a chokehold. Yeah, your reaction is right. Imagine seeing that. The police posting, it's a good day for a chokehold. posting it's a good day for a chokehold.
Starting point is 00:18:45 It's never a good day for a chokehold. All right? Chokeholds don't belong in your workplace. In fact, chokeholds don't belong in any workplace. Like there's no, unless maybe you work at the cheesecake factory, maybe then. Yeah. No, after someone's had like a slice of cake with 5, thousand grams of sugar, that's the only way to calm them down. It's like, sir, please, please, please, please, I know it's tasty, calm down. Shhh. But this study, this study wasn't just focused on Philadelphia, right? This report reviewed the social media of police officers in eight cities and counties, right? And they found, they found in all of the 3,500 cops accounts, 853 had posted offensive content. Imagine that, 853 had posted offensive content. Yeah, that's almost a quarter of all of the accounts.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And they're just the dumb cops, the ones who put it online. Yeah, because you know the smart cops, the racist ones, they keep it in their DMs. So police departments everywhere are realizing that they could have racist cops. And while it is encouraging that cities like Philadelphia are taking them off the streets, the bad news is elsewhere, they're getting promoted. Controversy in Louisiana where a police officer who shared a racist image on social media has been promoted to chief. Wayne Welsh made headlines in 2017 when he shared a depiction of a white
Starting point is 00:20:05 woman pushing a little girl's face into bathwater supposedly his punishment for having a crush on a black child. Yeah, what the fuck man? I mean it's not even just that that's a racist meme. The fact that they made that person, the person who posted that police chief, how do you post something like that and get a promotion? It's like if someone hija the plane and the FAA was like, th like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like, you th, you th, you th, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've, you've th, th, th, th, their, thi, their, their, the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, the person, the person who posted that police chief. How do you post something like that and get a promotion? It's like if someone hijacked a plane and the FAA was like, yeah, you've got to talent, you want to fly full-time? Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And I've got to be honest, like, I don't know what's scarier than having a racist police chief. I guess the only thing is realizing that in many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many the are just a reflection of their communities. The mayor says the mean is irrelevant now because it was posted nearly two years ago in July of 2017 when Chief Welsh was assistant police chief. He was disciplined, he was dealt with, and then he was re-elected, ran unopposed. What does it say about the people of this community that they would elect somebody like that? You know I was not the mayor back at that thi. th, th, th, th, th, th, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the mean the mean the mean the mean the mean the mean the mean, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, because, the the the the the the the the the the the the the mean, the mean, the mean, the mean, the mean, the mean, the mean, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, theean, theaneanean, theaneanean, thi mea, thi thi-mea, thi-mea, thi, thi about the people of this community that they would elect somebody like that? You know, I was not the mayor back at that time.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I understand what you're saying, but I'm not going to elaborate on that. Is town racist? No, it's not. Do you use the N-word? Often, but I don't use it as a white man, not racist. I don't find it racist. I got plenty of black friends. We all use it. Yeah, we all use it. Yeah, I call my black friends nigger, and they say, stop calling me nigger.
Starting point is 00:21:32 So the bad news is that racism is extremely pervasive in America's police departments, and people need to acknowledge that. In fact, it's gotten so bad that Philadelphia has to suspend 72 of their own cops. The good news is, for those cops, there's definitely a town that'll hire you. We'll be right back. Welcome. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an award-winning journalist and former editor-in-chief of Teen Vogue,
Starting point is 00:22:12 who is now a judge on Project Runway and an author of the New York Times bestseller more than enough, claiming space for who you are no matter what they say. Please welcome Elaine Walter Roth. Welcome. I got a lot of the time. This is fun. We have a good time out here. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. to be a New York Times bestsellerller. Listen I'm just trying to keep up with this guy. Thank you. It feels like this was an inevitable step for you because so many people were blown away not just by your leadership but by your writing at Teen Vogue. Like you you seem to have always had a way with words. Where do you get that from? You know what? I think I, my dad would like to say, I get it from him.
Starting point is 00:23:10 He would like to take credit for that. But yeah, I think ever since I was a little kid, I was always interested in storytelling. I remember being like in the bathtub at six years old. and I would pretend to be Oprah or Barbara Walters, and I would just interview, like these imaginary people, and it would be so dramatic. Yeah, because there's someone in the bathtub with you. It's just like, there's a six-year-old, you're like, why are you in my bathtub?
Starting point is 00:23:32 First question. Right, like, most people have like their moms doing to-sthe story behind what we see in front of the camera, and that is who you are and how you became who you are today. Why that title, more than enough? I'm so glad you asked that question, because I struggled with what to call this book.
Starting point is 00:23:58 What's the through line? I knew all the stories that I needed to tell. And it's really about, you know, going beyond the headlines and the highlight reels that we scroll every single day on the internet. But the title, really, more than enough, it's a mantra that I think we all need, particularly young women, women, people of color, people from marginalized communities, because for generations we have been made to feel that we're not enough. You know, and I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, the their their, thioluo-a tho-a thioluo-a thi, thi, their, their, their, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, thi, thi, thr-s, throoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, today, today, today, the, their, the been made to feel that we're not enough. You know, and I think it resonates with anyone, really. We all know that feeling of not feeling smart enough, successful enough, skinny enough, tall enough.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And you know, we both have experienced, you know, not black enough, not white enough, coming from interracial families. Right. And so I think as you go through the book, you kind of see yourself in th yourself in yourself in yourself in yourself in yourself in yourself in yourself in th yourself in through the book, you kind of see yourself in this journey, this arc, where you're born into the world with this limitless sense of possibility and unbridled confidence. And then over time, the world starts to chip away at that, particularly young girls, who, a stat I found when I was writing the book is that young girls' confidence peaks at age nine. It peaks at age nine. at the nine, which was so heartbreaking to the the tha tha tha. thiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoomk. thoomooma. thooma. thoomorrow, thooma. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. the. the. the. to, to, to, thea. to, thea. toea. toea. thea. thea. thea. thea. the. the, which was so heartbreaking to me.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And then I thought about my life and I was like, nah, it makes sense. Think about all the messages that we're getting. And then now you layer on social media. And so you can kind of see this journey that I think we all go through where we're, if we're lucky, we get to a point where we start to reclaim, you know, some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some, start to reclaim, you know, some of that confidence in who we were really born to be. So this is what the book is actually about.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It's a larger arc that I think we all can relate to. You talk in the book about finding your mentor. You know, you wanted to get into the world of magazines, and you just hunted somebody down, you're like, I'm going to work. I was a stalker, basically. I was a re-leve it. A very classy stalker, yes. Somehow it worked. Right. But how did you even think of that?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like, how did you choose your mentor? And then how did you, like, how do you go? Harriet Cole is going to be the person I want to shadow? And how do you then even begin the journey of taken all those's important to find out what you don't want to do. And so I kind of did soul-searching early on, and then I kind of had an aha moment. I realized I wanted to be a magazine editor. I had no idea how to make that happen as a small-town girl who knew no one in New York City and no one in this magazine world or fashion. And so I found this woman, I felt really drawn to this woman, thrown, to to to to to to to to to to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and I thi, I thi, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I thrown, I'm, I thi, I thia, I thia, I thia, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I their, I the, I the, I the, I the, I, I the, I the, and I, and I the, I the, and I the the their, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, and I'm a their, their, thr-a, throwne, thrown, thr-a, thr-a, thr-a, thrown, thr-a, thrown, thrown, their, black woman who had this really multifaceted career in media. And I was so drawn to her.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I was like, this is my career role model. This is the woman I want to be. And so I proceeded to stalk her. And this was pre-social media. Oh, that's OG stalking. Like, now I could just slide into your tm. You know what I mean? Yes. And like maybe you'll respond one day. Right. But even if you don't, I can see the way you're living your life and I can be inspired by you from afar digitally, right?
Starting point is 00:26:48 But back in the day, I mean I had to like snail mail her, I had to find her assistance phone number and call every day and luckily she eventually took my call. That is. That is inspiring and creepy. It really, that's, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, that, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, that, that, wow, wow, wow, that, wow, wow, that, wow, wow, wow, that, wow, wow, wow, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's, that, that, that, that, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I'm, I, I, I'm. Wow, I, I, I, I, I, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, I. Wow, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's. Wow, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's. that's, that's. that's. that's. that's. that's, th. th. th. th, it's amazing and I mean that that really is... I don't recommend it, but it did work. You know what it is? I think it's because of the way you didn't... I'm gonna get stalkers out. And what you were true, yeah, they're gonna stalk you and be like, how does it feel? the true. the tell. the thing, thrown, tho, here tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thin, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they, they, they, they, tho, tho, tho, thr. thr. thr-a. thr-a. thr-s, they's they're, they're, they're thr-a. thr-a. thr-a. tho. tho. Yeah, this story is that it's not just a story of lucking your way through or forcing your way through. You were doing the work. I mean, it's no mistake that at 29 you became the youngest editor-in-chief in teen
Starting point is 00:27:30 vogue's history. That is an insane achievement. What is even more impressive in my opinion is that you take over at Teen Vogue and everybody remembers this. Teen Vogue shifted its focus on what people saw it as. And it went from being a, just a magazine where it was just about beauty tips alone, to now engaging young people, predominantly young women, in politics, social justice, what's going on in their world. Some people were like, who is Teen Vogue to talk about politics? That was really done under your curatorship.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Why was that important? And how would you even begin to do that in what people consider just a beauty space? It was a critical responsibility. I mean, you have to think about what was happening at the time. The 2016 election had just taken place. And, you know, this is a generation that cares deeply about the issues that affect our world. And that directly affect them, whether they can vote or not. And they see themselves as activists.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They see themselves as change agents. And we needed to respect and reflect that. And so it felt like a real responsibility. And we threw out the formulas. We didn't know if it was going to work, but we know it was the right thing to do. and we and we and we and we and we and we and we and we to do. And we to do. And we to do. And we to do, and to do, to do, to do, to do, the right, to do, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, to do, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, th. th. to to to to do was to do it was right, to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the right, th. the right, the right, the right, the right, the right, the right thing to do. And we really ended up finding a much larger audience, actually, of really engaged, politically engaged young people. And I just feel really proud of the work that we were able to do collectively as a young team.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It was a very young team of people that really took risks to change that, to really transform that brand. And hopefully, more adults think of their young teenters, of their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young their young to change that, to really transform that brand. And hopefully, more adults think of their young teenagers in new ways now. I hope that they're inviting them to the conversations to talk about politics because they have an opinion. And their voices matter. Their voices definitely matter.
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