The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Rages at Pope Leo, JD Vance Fumbles Iran Deal & Hungary Ousts Viktor Orban | Aziz Abu Sarah and Maoz Inon

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Jon Stewart dives into the backlash over Trump Jesus-ifying himself with AI, the president claiming he was just depicting himself as a “doctor” (treating a bedridden Jon Stewart?), and Trump start...ing an Easter beef with Pope Leo. Plus, JD Vance fails to secure a deal with Iran while ALSO failing to get Hungarian strongman Viktor Orban reelected. Peace activists and authors of “The Future Is Peace,” Aziz Abu Sarah and Maoz Inon sit down with Jon to share their inspirational story of family loss and choosing reconciliation over revenge in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Through honest dialogue, visits to Holocaust and Palestinian sites, and confronting painful stories, they spread the message of how empathy can break cycles of violence and war. They also challenge the idea that empathy is naive and share what it was like meeting Pope Francis. -- To get simple, online access to personalized, affordable care for ED, Hair Loss, Weight Loss, and more, visit https://Hims.com/dailyshow -- Stream full episodes of The Daily Show on Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/the-daily-show/ The Daily Show airs weeknights at 11/10c on Comedy Central. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central is America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show with your host, John. My name is John Stewart. We have a great show for you tonight, a great show. Later on, I'll be talking to peace activist, Aziz Abu-Saraa and Meuse Inan. They are a Palestinian and an Israeli who traveled their homeland. and I assume
Starting point is 00:01:09 walked into a bar with the Pope. Honestly, it's an incredible book about two men touched by tragedy who try to rise above this conflict to find reconciliation and healing. It's a message of compassion shared by many in the world today,
Starting point is 00:01:28 including Chicago-born Villanova educated Pope Leo the 14th. Who has the potter discatenare war. Let those who have the power to unleash wars choose peace. Not a peace imposed by force, but through dialogue. Ah, look who became Pope and suddenly became too good for English. But still, a beautiful, compassionate message that I cannot imagine. Anyone. Really? Anyone.
Starting point is 00:02:06 It does not come into my brain. That message of peace will have some kind of a weird problem with it. President Trump lashing out at Pope Leo on truth social, calling the first American Pope weak and a loser. Starting to sour on this president. Trump's mind. What did the, what, the Pope say? He wants what? Dialogue. He wants to choose the noblest aspirations of mankind to show humanity in its greatest articulation?
Starting point is 00:03:16 That loser. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, that's who died? Okay. Oh, really? There was a vote. White smoke. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Okay. Interesting. Hold on. Yeah, I'm going to have to call you back. Okay. And look, President Trump, I know the Vatican's been critical of your policies, but you've got to remember that at the end of the day, you and the Catholic Church, both historically,
Starting point is 00:03:54 care deeply about the same thing covering up sex scandals. Trump's comments about the Pope upset a lot of people of Christian faith. But please don't worry. It gets worse. In a separate social media message, the president shared an image of himself in a religious scene that appears to depict Trump as Jesus. Oh my God. Have the vigor and spunk of my MTV days, but I didn't know we were here. I didn't realize my look had reached leper territory.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I mean, from the picture, it looks like it was touch and go with me for a while. But thank God in my time of need, I was surrounded by fans. There's my darling wife Amy Lynn, hands clasped in prayer. My brother, Sergeant Chislejaw. Oh, look in the back, there's Pappy Joe. You and I stormed the Capitol together, me and Pappy Joe. Up at the top there, there's the eagle that delivers my mail. Apparently the lead singer of Guar is in the middle of there.
Starting point is 00:06:44 You look at just the bottom there. It looks like there's a, just a guy's hand. not mine, just some other guy's hand seems to be taking advantage of my infirmity to... This is freaking me the fuck out. The whole thing happening outside the watchful eye of daytime fireworks.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You know, I'm just glad that Jesus Trump brought his healing orb. By the way, can I tell you my favorite thing about this picture? Like, I like how there's only so much AI can do. Like, AI is like, look, I can give you the fireworks. and the healing powers, and I can make you Jesus,
Starting point is 00:07:36 but you weigh what you weigh. I plug in all the shit, give me the flag, make me Jesus, do the Eagles. And then he was like, it make me 185, and I'm like, can't do it. You're going to have to be fat, Jesus. Sorry, Chubbs. That's me entering the program.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Now, apparently, not everyone in the Christian community took too kindly to Trump portraying himself this way, and the backlash was bad enough that Trump was forced to come up with his own incredibly plausible cover story. Mr. President, did you post that picture of yourself depicted as Jesus Christ? Well, it wasn't a picture. It was me. I did post it, and I thought it was me as a doctor. That's you as a doctor. Oh, I'm sorry. What's this? Urgent cares. You put yourself out there as Jesus. You got fucking called on it.
Starting point is 00:08:57 And now you're like, do you even care about? Do you even care about what? lying to us anymore? Is it over? Is this relationship gone still? Your lies used to have a real spark. They're eating the cats and dogs. Venezuela stole the 2020 election.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And now the best you've got is, I'm a doctor. I'm a doctor. You need to find your happy place and fast. We expect better lies, sir. And can I just remind you, Mr. President, we're in the middle of a grinding war with Iran. Can you just address that in a straightforward way with the American people without all
Starting point is 00:09:42 this other weird shit going on? Can you just do that once? I don't think it gets much more hostile than Iran. They're capable fighters. They're very tough people. And there are others like that. You don't mind when the enemy is weak, but that enemy is strong. You guys see the rabbit too, right? You see it. Oh, thank God. I'm so glad they see it. You know, clearly I've been on a lot of leprosy med, so I don't... A lot of hallucinations and shit. By the way, the surreal image of the president running through his cavalcade of grievances
Starting point is 00:10:31 next to the Easter bunny was not exclusive to the balcony. Poor Peter Conte had to listen to this bullshit all day. We've broken every record on the stock market. We've broken every record in our military. And we are
Starting point is 00:10:47 the most respected country anywhere in the world with the greatest military. Mr. Jameson-Grear, You heard. He's right here. Come on here. How are we doing on trade? It's a big country. They can't fight back. They have no capability. NATO should be ashamed of themselves. This is about eggs. Eggs.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Sorry. That's insane. I can't have a thing that if Jesus came back to see the White House Easter event, he'd be like, I think you may have misunderstood my message. At one point, the show of the Easter bunny got so bad. you're not sure if it was an episode of the office. Anybody in the egg industry vote for Kamala, a low IQ person. She's a low IQ person.
Starting point is 00:11:37 The extra bunny does one of these. And his eyes don't move. It is immobile, and he still landed the... You believe this one's going to be... For an adult in a bunny suit to go, all right, now I'm embarrassed. But back to Iran. If you remember correctly, about a week ago,
Starting point is 00:12:20 Donald Trump had given Iran a deadline to open up the straight of Hormuz or face the end of their civilization. And while Iran neither opened up the strait of war moves or faced the end of their civilization, they did agree to a two-week ceasefire. And to meet in Islamabad, Pakistan, to talk. Let's go there now. The fate of the U.S. Iran war is hanging in the balance. The collective world holding its breath. Highest stakes talks between the U.S. and Iran in many years. in the balance the lives of millions of people across the Middle East and the fate of the global economy.
Starting point is 00:12:54 My God, these negotiations couldn't be more critical. We're going to need everybody. Bunny, pack your eggs. We're going to Pakistan. What luck for the United States, because what Iran might not realize is our president is the greatest negotiator in the history of his book. We are talking about this year's recipient of the FIFA Peace Prize
Starting point is 00:13:21 and some fucking gold thing from Apple. And they don't just give those to anyone. I had the inflection wrong. They don't give those to anyone. I would have loved to see those Iran negotiators' faces when the formidable negotiator-in-chief Donald Jahasafeffer Trump entered those talks on Saturday in Islamabad. Unfortunately, he couldn't make it,
Starting point is 00:13:56 because I shit you not. He went to a UFC fight with Dana White. Now, before you criticize the President of the United States for attending a UFC fight around the same time that America and Iran are locked in high-stakes negotiations in Islamabad, you do have to understand. He had fantastic seats, like super close, like uncomfortably weird and close.
Starting point is 00:14:20 You're a beautiful guy, great fighter. Thanks. We'll give you a heart. You look so good. You're too good looking, fair fighter. You are so fighter. Thank you, man. One last thing. You wouldn't mind trying on a bunny suit, would you?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Let's see where those eggs come out of. I don't really understand Easter. All right. But f*** it. It's fine. The president didn't need to be in Islamabad. I'm sure he can delegate some of the heavy lifting to his accomplished secretary of state, Marco Rubio,
Starting point is 00:15:07 who... Oh, he's also at the fight! And by the way, what in the pit bull are those hand signals? No disrespect to Marco repping the 305. But if Trump isn't in Islamabad and Marco Rubio isn't in Islamabad, who exactly is in Islamabad handling these extremely delicate negotiations? Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for coming. Norris, man.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Peace depends on chubby face mode. Well, all right, fine. I remain open-minded. Let's set the scene. Obviously, the last Iran agreement took the Obama administration 20 months to negotiate. And this time there's a wide gap between the U.S. position and the Iranian position. The U.S. is asking for an unconditional surrender. Iran is asking for control the Strait of Hormuz, nuclear enrichment, and money.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm glad the Pakistanis are setting the stage for what will be extensive and grueling talks. The host country declaring a national holiday implementing a lockdown in the capital of Islamabad. The Pakistani government welcomed both delegations with flowers as they both got off the plane. The building was decked out in branding. There were signs that read, Al-Abod talks. Reporters were offered specially branded, brewed for peace coffee.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Peace talks have a fucking signature cocktail? Are the countries registered? You know, I pause. I'm sorry. Respect Pakistan for taking this seriously and for locking the U.S. and Iran in for the long haul. U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance and his delegation are headed home.
Starting point is 00:17:08 What? It's over all... Oh my God, did J.D. Vance just fucking nail this? Did J.D. Vance just Rubik's Cube, World Peace? Just zap, ba, boom. You know what, J.D. Vance? I owe you an apology. I thought you were some kind of incompetent, unlikeable, cytoplasmic apparition of a meatbag filled with cynical ambition, a cipher whose only principle is devotion to power. But you're not that at all.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You are a competent, unlikable cytoplasmic apparition. of a meat bag. U.S. officials say there's no deal following 16 hours of negotiations with Iran. Wait, and you didn't even get... Wait, you went home and didn't even get a deal. It failed, and you just came home? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Don't be too hard on yourself. You did give it almost a day. I mean, we all knew that's what it took to build Rome. Jesus, couldn't you have just thrown down some of that peace cough? and pulled in all-nighter? No, let's resume in the morning and build on some momentum.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Just, I got to go. I don't want to miss euphoria. At least tell us, after all this, there were some concessions. You got the Strait of Hormuz open. President Trump announcing today a U.S. military blockade of all ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Now, we're blocking that, father. You think you're going to close the Strait? No. No, my friend, we're closing the straight. You think you can kick me in the bulls? No, watch this. Ever going to get this hor moose straight? I'm telling you, man, it's all starting to fall apart in MAGA world.
Starting point is 00:19:18 The whole thing spread too thin. Even Trump's overseas allies are in trouble. Victor Orban, one of President Trump's closest allies in Europe, is facing his toughest challenge as he tries to win a fifth term as prime minister. Well, no, no, that should be a good. problem. We all know Trump is the endorser in chief. He shows up to a rally. Almost inevitably, that person gets elected.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Is Trump going to head to Hungary to prop up his boy, Orban? I mean, who else could you send? Hey, guys. Good morning. Yes, apparently a couple of days before JD Vance shit the bed in his lava bot, he took a practice crap in Budapest. JD Vance treated the crowd to a phone call live from Donald Trump. Here's how it all played out. I actually had a special guest that asked that I give him a phone call.
Starting point is 00:20:10 and we'll see let's hope he actually answers but this is going to be very embarrassing Eddie Vance has the same relationship with President Trump that we have with Comcast customer service that's incredible can I tell you my favorite part of the whole thing
Starting point is 00:20:43 was the sort of Vegas magician part at the beginning with the phone hey I've got a special friend all the way over there give her another go okay try one more time they get a good signal here it's ringing It's progress.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Mr. President, you are on with about 5,000 Hungarian patriots and I think they love you even more than they love Victor Orban. Oh my God, you ass kissing cytoplasmic, blah, blah, blah, what I said. God. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:33 I'm sure that by pulling out the big guns, having Donald Trump and J.D. Vance throw all of the American power behind Victor Orban is sure to pay dividends. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban was voted out of power in a massive landslide. Let the dam be breaking.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Folks, this has been a truly shit year, as we have all been at the mercy of the mercurial whims of a mega maniacal man baby. And we are, the presidency is supposed to age the president, not the people. But I'm telling you, there is hope The air of Donald Trump's invincibility is being slowly eroded by world events and his own heart's ability to clear liquid from his capillaries. That's why I bunches at the bottom. But we cannot give in to the sadness. We must embrace these moments of light and hope and oxygen.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Even MAGA is beginning to realize the depths of this man's depravity. No matter how much we love the person. he's healing. I do appreciate it. And to the dismay of Donald Trump and his acolytes, an illiberal autocrat who controlled the media, stacked the judiciary,
Starting point is 00:23:34 and manipulated the electoral process of his country, has been crushed. Because the people of Hungary stood up and said, fuck this. We must remember these moments of hope. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:23:55 show you something. These are Hungarians. It's not where we are right now, but I am starting to believe it is where we could be soon. Drink in their jubilation. Take solace and strength from their joy. All right, that might be a little much. But you know what? Sure, f*** it. Dance like that. And remember, as we grind through these next two and a half years, it ain't over till the Freddie Mercury sings. We'll get there soon. When we come back, at some point, it becomes necessary to stop blaming stress, lack of sleep, or just getting older for performance issues. If bedroom performance is in question, taking action shouldn't involve jumping through hoops or navigating a complicated medical system. Hymns is designed to make getting care feel easy and transparent.
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Starting point is 00:26:04 The Future is Peace, a shared journey across the Holy Land. Please welcome to the program Aziz Abu Surrah and Meos Inam. So lovely to meet you, gentlemen, to see you gentlemen. The Book, The Future is Peace. it is a honestly a beautiful testament to the two of yours friendship and the pilgrimage that you took together. But I want to add some weight to the trip you take.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You have both been touched by the tragedies in Israel and Palestine. I'll start with you, Aziz. Yeah, I grew up in East Jerusalem. I grew up with occupation. I mean, I was shot at first time, and I was, I think, seven or eight years old. Had to be frisked going to school. I carried an onion every day with me to school
Starting point is 00:27:17 because I was afraid of tear gas. And I told my mom, I'm not going to school anymore. And she said, no, if you take an onion and you cut it, and when they shoot tear gas at you, you just have to smell it. So that was my normal days. And then when I was... Does that work? I hope it does because it worked for me.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I can't tell you if it's going to work. work for you but it did it gave me the confidence to go to school because I was terrified of going to school yes and then I was nine years old my brother was arrested from home I'm the youngest of seven he's the one just older than me this is Taseer yeah and he was taken to interrogation was beaten up tortured an allegation of throwing rocks and eventually because of that beating he ended up dying soon after he was released from prison and you were how old when your brother I was 10 years old I was mad. I was very angry. All I wanted is revenge at that point. And this is, by the way, Taseer, so you two shared a room. You shared a bed.
Starting point is 00:28:13 We shared a bed, yes. And you write very movingly of that day where the bed is cold. Yeah. Tysir was more like my parent than my brother. I'm the oops child. I wasn't planned for. Sure. And which really makes no sense because my parents are religious. An onion.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You can't help that. You get an onion in there. My parents being religious Muslims, don't drink alcohol. I never understood how do you make an ex-child if you don't have a bottle of wine with that. They're holidays, birthdays. Yes. It happens. No, but he basically my parents handed me to him, and he's the one who took me to school my first day.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He's the one who protected me. He's the one who took care of me. And when he died, I felt like my protector is gone. And, uh, no, tragedy hit you more recently. Yeah. My parents, Billy and Jacobi, were among the first victim of the Hamas attack. The last time I spoke with them was Saturday morning 7.45 a.m. Speaking to my father, they were in the safe room. They lived only 200 meters in Moshev Nativa, Asara, an Israeli community,
Starting point is 00:29:24 the closest Israeli community to the Gaza border on the north side. And I told my dad that I love him. I could hear my mom at the background. They told me that there is a war around them, that they can hear the shooting, the missiles, the sirens. So I told that, okay, I'll call you soon. And five minutes after, I called them, and there was no answer. And later in the afternoon, we got the news that their house was burned to ashes with them inside. And on that day, I lost many of my childhood friends, people I knew my entire life.
Starting point is 00:30:00 and the first thing Sunday morning we started the Shiva the seven day of morning for the Jewish people and on the second day we were sitting together me, my three sisters and my young brother and my young brother asked us to take a family decision that we are rejecting revenge that we don't want to avenge the death of our parents
Starting point is 00:30:22 of our beloved parents because avenging their death is not going to bring them back to life it will only escalate the cycle of fire violence, bloodshed, and suffering that we, Palestinian Israelis, been tracked within for a century. And we choose to take my brother, young brother, advice, and this is the message we've been sending ever since. In that moment. In that moment.
Starting point is 00:30:45 In that moment. Only two days after. What was it that you said you wanted only revenge? And you're 10 years on. I imagine it's an incredibly formidable and seminal experience in your life. When did you move off of the feeling of vengeance? It took me eight years, because when you, 10 years old, you feel somebody, it felt like somebody punched me in the face.
Starting point is 00:31:09 And if somebody punches you in the face, you feel when you tend, you punch back. And I felt I would be a terrible brother if I don't. But at 18, I went to study Hebrew for the first time in my life, and my Hebrew teacher was an Israeli Jewish woman. All my class was Jewish immigrants to Israel. And I met the first Israeli ever who treated me like a human being. human being that looked at me at 18 at 18 I met many Israelis usually soldiers at
Starting point is 00:31:35 checkpoints or settlers who came into our towns and and burned homes and cars and so on but this teacher treating me differently put me on this journey because I suddenly realized we don't have to be on opposite sides we can be in the same side fighting for justice together fighting for peace together we not enemies this idea of dividing us Israeli versus Palestinian is a terrible one. If you must divide us, it's those of us who believe in justice, in equality, in peace, and those who don't yet. That's amazing. If I may, how does this happen? How did the two of you...
Starting point is 00:32:20 I signed up to an app called J-Date. Have you still done there? I was trying to get you, John, but I got... Understood. I'm very happy. Understood. Understood. I'm not on there anymore, but understood. Incredible. What's in the book, it's a slightly different story. But you were working together in that space of peace.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And after October the 7th, you reached out. Was that difficult for you to do and was that difficult for you to receive? No, it was not difficult. It wasn't the first time I've done it to somebody whose last family members. And I didn't do it because I knew if he would respond or not. I've met Mao's a few years earlier. We both work in tourism as well, tourism and peacebuilding. And I just felt in times like this, you need to show empathy.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You need to show love. You need to reach out to people who suffer. It doesn't matter if the Israeli or Palestinian, you need to take an initiative. And I knew I should do it. It wasn't even something I had to think about. Yeah, and it was only three days after I lost my parents. And the night before I had a vision. As I was crying in bed at night, my entire body was in pain.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And through my tears, I could see the entire humanity crying with me. We were all crying, and our tears went down our bodies. Our bodies were wounded from the war. They were crashed. They were burned. And as our tears were washing our bodies, our tears healed us. Cured us. And then our tears started going down to the earth.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And the earth was soaked with blood. You could not see sand, grass, flowers. It was all blooded. And then our tears start purifying the land. And the land becomes shining and brilliant. And then in my vision, I could see a path. I could see the path of peace and reconciliation. And I made a decision that in order to heal myself,
Starting point is 00:34:24 to save myself from drawing in an ocean of sorrow and pain, I must choose this path. And a few hours after, I received this message, Aziz, offering his condolence. And it was like a hand. reaching out, saving me from falling into the abyss. And since then, and the last two and a half years, working together, co-tering the future with peace,
Starting point is 00:34:46 I can now say that, yes, I lost my parents, family, childhood friends, people I knew my entire life. But I won Aziz. I want Aziz as a brother. What I thought is so brilliant about the book is it's really split up into parts. There's Aziz speaking for yourself. There's Mollos speaking for himself.
Starting point is 00:35:16 and the two of you speaking together. And what's so interesting about the book is, reconciliation doesn't mean agreement. And as you guys set off on this eight-day pilgrimage through different sites within your communities, whether it be the home where your parents, whether it was your childhood home, you don't necessarily agree,
Starting point is 00:35:42 but you allow the space for each other to speak. Yeah. The grace. Yes, this is why it's a shared journey. So at the first day in Kibbutz Niram, we are meeting Batya Segev, a friend of my parents who lost her daughter, her son-in-law, and two of her grandchild on October 7th. And an hour after we are speaking to Abdul Rahim from Gaza, who lost many of his family members. And they both are sharing their own pain, but also encouraging us to continue to continue to continue
Starting point is 00:36:16 on our journey, on our journey to pursue justice and peace. And so we go day after day meeting many people sharing stories from the history, from the biblical time, mythology, and meeting the people on the ground, and our people on the ground are transforming revenge into reconciliation, despair into hope and trauma into healing. Pope Francis told us when we met him that the only place that doesn't have disagreement on
Starting point is 00:36:46 conflict is a cemetery. It's the only place that doesn't have conflict. There's no place in the world without some kind of conflict. The humans will disagree. It's about how we deal with that conflict and what we decided to do we said we're going to talk to each other, keep at it even when we disagree, even when we don't see eye to eye until we solve our disagreement or figure out a way to live with that disagreement. How do you when you get into those moments of well in 1948 and You know, they were, well, you left the land on your own volition. No, they were chased out.
Starting point is 00:37:19 They were murdered. What do you do in those moments where two histories collide with narratives that don't in any way align? I'll give you an example from my dad. Please. My father came to a peace, his first peace agreement. He was a peace meeting. He was very opposed to me going and meeting Israelis in the beginning. Mainly he was afraid they're going to put me in prison.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And the same thing that happened to my brother and to his cousin would happen to me. And he came, and after he heard a few minutes, he raised his hand, and he goes, I have a question, this Holocaust thing, you guys talk about it. I'm like, I was the chairman of that organization, I'm going like, oh, no, I'm getting fired. And he goes, did it really happen? And I'm already thinking I'm fired.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I love the fact that no matter who you are, dads are dads. Your parents are your parents. No matter what, it's like, oh my God, don't do the accent. What are you doing? But he asked that, or did the Israeli government, it uses it for what it's doing to us. And he goes on and on, and you can hear a pin drop in the room. Nobody knew how to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And then, my good friend, our good friend, Ramil Hanan, whose father was in Auschwitz. He stood up and he said, I don't want you to believe in something you never learned about. If you're willing, I'll have my dad who was in Auschwitz, take you to the Holocaust Memorial and walk you through it and listen to the story. Listen to what he went through. And that's what we did. 70 other Palestinians went with my dad to the Holocaust Memorial with the Parents Circle who organized this.
Starting point is 00:38:48 And it was incredible. It wasn't easy. There were moments that were very tense a whole day. People cried, people were hurt at times, people were upset at times. Two weeks later, the Israelis, a week or two later, in the same organization came and said, you did this, we want to do the same. Can we come to a Palestinian village that was destroyed in 1948? We want to hear your story.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And again, it was not easy. It was really difficult. But unless we ask the difficult questions, unless we're willing to not just walk an egg shells, which many people do, even the peace movement sometimes, we can't walk on eggshells. We need to be honest and say, here's where we disagree. Let's go and visit, let's talk, let's understand.
Starting point is 00:39:28 It's debate. It's fine. Let's debate it to understand. So how is this, you know, when you are outside of, I know my reaction to you guys. All I want to do is hug you and talk about this. Beautiful book. and how wonderful it is, and Pope Francis is coming by and going like, let me tell you something, friend.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Like, you know, you're being received in a really heroic way. I think people are appreciating your courage and certainly your humanity and grace. In Israel and Palestine, how do people perceive you as naive? Do they think this is cute, but this isn't meaningful? How do they view this journey and this relationship? So I'm feeling We are feeling supported appreciated than ever in our life before
Starting point is 00:40:17 And if it when we met Pope Francis Just after this The event at the Arena de Pacha in Verona An amazing out of body experience meeting the Pope I had to stop him from converting Almost I'm going Catholic Yeah and then
Starting point is 00:40:35 Once you circumcised There's no going back That's, but the toothpaste is out of the tube, unfortunately. And the moment it ended, my aunts, my father, sister called me, sharing that they were crying in front of the TV, watching us embracing with Pope Francis. And at the end of the month, April 30th, we're going to do a peace summit. In Tel Aviv, where thousands, maybe even more, Israelis and Palestinians, will gather together, will prove that dialogue is already happening, that reconciliation is a grassroots process that we start investing within and that the future is, of course, peace.
Starting point is 00:41:19 I think people, we get legitimacy from these meetings. Us being here gives us legitimacy. Here? Yes. You have no idea how popular. How small is this movement? We're trying to grow it. But no, meeting with Pope Francis gives us legitimacy.
Starting point is 00:41:46 But honestly, it gives us the ability to say, look, the world can see what's happening. And we need to take a stand. Everybody needs to take a stand. No one can say, oh, this is not my problem. This is not my conflict. Everyone has to be involved. This is our message to Americans. I started watching you around the Iraq war.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I remember, yes. I haven't changed a bit. You look as young and beautiful. And I remember because most American media was super pro the war. Even the liberals were very pro of the war. And you took a stand to criticize that war and say, war is wrong. And it was a comedy show.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And I'm like, okay, he used his comedy show to stand for something. I can use my ability, being a person, to do and stand for something. Everyone can do it, whether you are a comedian, whether you are in tourism, whether you are in politics, whether you are in politics. None of us really have an excuse. And we lost our family members. We know the price for it.
Starting point is 00:42:44 People don't have to wait until they lose somebody in their family to stand up for justice. That's such a beautiful statement. And I want to follow the point out because it's something you're making the book. And by the way, I've been watching you since the Iraq War as well. You haven't changed a bit. Yeah, I haven't changed a bit.
Starting point is 00:43:02 No, but it's a point you make in the book because there's a certain idea that, oh, dialogue and grace and common ground and humanity, it's so naive, it will never solve the problem. But you know what strikes me as more naive, bombing your way to peace, killing your way to peace. That has never worked. It will not work now.
Starting point is 00:43:28 It will not create any kind of solution without what you two are doing. Everything else is meaningless. Everything else is violence. And so I would say, I would challenge those at war and say, that's naive. Exactly. Exactly. Those who believe that bombs will bring quiet, that war will defend, and that war will bring security, they are the naive.
Starting point is 00:43:53 We are here. We are the pragmatist. We are the voice of reason. And we are those who learn from history. That the only way to reach a sustainable peace and justice is only through dialogue, only through looking to the other side in the eye. Start feeling his pain. Start listening to his trauma, to his challenges,
Starting point is 00:44:16 acknowledging them, not necessarily agree, but acknowledging and recognize his suffering his pain and then start walking together to create hope. If they can do it in Northern Ireland, and they can do it in Rwanda, and they can do it in various places. And Israel and Egypt. And Israel and Germany. Today we are marking the Holocaust Day in Israel.
Starting point is 00:44:37 the Holocaust Day, but only seven years after the Holocaust, the reconciliation agreement between Israel and Germany was accomplished and signed. No, this can be done. It can be done. It will be done. And this journey that you take, and I urge everybody to get this book, because it is a beautiful travelogue and the setting. It's so interesting because it is in the Holy Land.
Starting point is 00:45:00 And so what you imagine as a pilgrimage is really the scenic backdrop of their healing journey. It's we walk down the street where Jesus walked towards his crucifixion. We went to the Garden of Githemone. We are at the Church of the Holy Sepulah and at the dome of the rock. But within that is their healing journey. And I want to give you as the last word, I know you have a sort of poem that you carry with you that you believe sums up the feeling here. And it's a travel.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So what we did in the book is a journey, and we want to invite everyone to travel with us. And Samihal Qasem, was a Palestinian poet, wrote this incredible poem called Travel Tickets and says, Zadam killed, my killer rifling through my pockets, will find travel tickets, one to peace, one to the fields and the rain, and one to the conscience of a humankind.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So I beg you, my dear killer, do not waste such a thing. Do not ignore these tickets. Please take them and go travel. And that's our invite of it. everyone, please take these tickets and go travel with us. Thank you so much. Please.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Aziza Boucherah, Meosan. Come on, guys. Fantastic. We'll be right back over there. Groupon. Come on, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I'm going to check in with your host for the rest of the week, Mr. Ronnie Chang. Ronnie. Tell the people, what are you going to be covering this week? Well, John, the Masters was this past weekend. Well, unfortunately, Rory McEl won and not my favorite Asian golfer, Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Right, Tiger obviously didn't play because of the car accident. I know, John. That's why Tiger is by far my least favorite black driver. Do you want to run that by me one more time? Yeah, sure, sure, yeah. It's very important you remember that the black side of Tiger Woods does the driving and the Asian side does the golfing. His Asian side has nothing to do with, The driving.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Got it? No, you can't, Ronnie, you can't just split it. You can't just credit Tiger's Asian side for the good things. Okay, fine. His Asian side also does the infidelity. Okay, is that? But how does he get there? Well, the black side drives him.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Okay. You can't tell that. Their policy is no good. They want to have, I mean, open borders. They want to have men playing in women's sport. Do you think that men should play in women's splits? I really don't have an opinion on that. You don't, I'll bet you do.
Starting point is 00:48:18 No, I'm here about no tax on tips. Yeah. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus. This has been a Comedy Central podcast. Now!

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