The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Spins Dinner Shooting for Ballroom Agenda & Blitzer Is CNN's One-Shoed Hero | Jodi Kantor
Episode Date: April 28, 2026Jon Stewart dives into the chaos at the White House Correspondents' Dinner: After a shooter interrupted mentalist Oz Pearlman revealing Karoline Leavitt’s baby name, cabinet members abandoned their ...wives to rush to safety, Wolf Blitzer reported on the scene without a shoe, and Trump insisted none of this would’ve happened in his larger, more secure, East Wing ballroom. Plus, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog recounts his traumatic night of dodging bullets while trying to avoid having his carcass eaten by RFK Jr. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Jodi Kantor sits down with Jon to discuss The New York Times’ Supreme Court coverage and her latest book, “How to Start: Discovering Your Life’s Work.” They talk about getting a behind-the-scenes look at the Supreme Court’s internal documents and private correspondence that detail the expansion of shadow docket cases, how the partisan results of rulings benefit President Trump more than previous Democratic presidents, and Kantor advises young graduates on approaching their life’s work in a positive, productive way in “How to Start." -- Stream full episodes of The Daily Show on Paramount+: https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/the-daily-show/ The Daily Show airs weeknights at 11/10c on Comedy Central. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This, with your host, John.
I like doing the Monday shows, because all the news accumulates every week.
Somebody that always asks me, why do you do the Monday shows?
I go, I don't know.
And she goes, is it being somebody behind her?
goes, oh, it's because the news accumulates over the weekend.
And I go, yeah, that's it.
Later on tonight, there will also be joined by author and journalist Jody Cantor from the failing.
He's actually written an article about the failing Supreme Court.
But first, let's begin, obviously, with the big news.
The White House Correspondents' dinner.
It's supposed to be an evening of fun and merriment until, like most things in America.
it was interrupted by gunfire.
This is why we can't have...
To be perfectly frank, it's not even a nice thing.
Nobody wanted this fucking dinner in the first...
Nobody needed...
We're so f***ed in this country right now.
We can't even pull off a dinner
that shouldn't have existed in the first.
Celebrate the First Amendment
with an administration that's doing everything
it can do to destroy.
Sounds great. Should we hold the dinner in a secure location?
Well, we could. Or you know what? Why not just the Hilton?
Hold it in a secure location. Let's go to the Hilton. You know the Hilton's slogan?
More hard to defend entry points than rooms. Now fortunately, and amazingly, no fatalities. Nobody was really hurt.
But make no mistake in crisis situations like this.
People tend to show you who they really are.
And who the elite of Washington, D.C. are, is.
Like this influencer whose caption says,
Shooter at the White House correspondent dinner.
But whose duck face says,
Coachella, we're all going to die, Gucci.
Are these hard-nosed Washington insiders
who made sure in a life or dis-situation?
to grab the things most dear to them, the bottle service.
If only, if only I had more time, I could have saved the rosé.
Check this video at the left side of your screen.
This man, creative artist, agent, super agent, Michael Glantz,
has gone viral for eating food casually as people are crouched down after this shooting
at the White House correspondent's dinner.
Excuse me, wait a minute.
When you're done incapacitating the assassin,
I would love some more ranch dressing.
It'd be a doll if you could, a refill.
Some lady took my wine.
If you could.
There have been times when I have been very worried about artificial intelligence
and whether or not it's going to replace us.
And then there are other times where I think,
hey, AI, can you start Monday?
I mean, but I got to tell you, nobody revealed their
true colors more than the Trump administration.
From J.D. Vance's Dancing
With the Stars' Quick Step exit
to Pete Hegseth
dropping a smoldering blue steel.
Hello.
To RFK Jr.
being whisked away by a
Secret Service hive who
apparently couldn't spare
one worker bee for, I don't know,
his wife.
Did you see it?
Do you see right there? There's a group
of men
carrying another man out of the room.
And then there's a woman.
It appears to be, I'm not a, obviously,
desperately reaching out
for someone to care.
When reaching up, R.K. Jr.'s wife.
If there's one guy in that entire room
who seems like they would be impervious
to physical damage,
f***ing RFK Jr.
It looks like a guy who is trapped
between being Bruce Banner and the Hulk.
He's in the...
He can't go either.
It's like the gamma radiation
just stabilized in the middle
of the transformation.
Oh, I'm just uncomfortable.
How f***ed up is that scene?
How f***ed up is that scene?
May I show you the tape again?
I want to show you something.
Pay attention to the foreground.
Something's about to happen.
I want to show it to you. Hold on.
It's not there.
They're whisking RFK out.
His wife...
Freeze, freeze, freeze, freeze.
Okay.
The guy right there,
shielding the pregnant woman from danger, that's Stephen Miller and his wife.
Stephen Miller carefully protecting his wife.
Turned out, that's an option.
You can protect your wife instead of, I don't know, beating her to the escape pod.
And the guy who outshined you is Stephen fucking Miller.
Stephen Miller, a guy who probably jerks off to the new faces of death movie.
That's...
And now for the rest of your life, the rest of your life, your wife is going to ask you a question
no one's ever asked before, ever.
Why can't you be more like Stephen Miller?
Can't you be more?
But no.
There goes RFK.
It looks like we got a new addition to the Kennedy family,
abandoning women to their fate Wikipedia page.
you punch the monkey nonsense.
Not wrong.
Look at all.
Obviously not everybody
left her lady behind.
Some went to look for their lady
and still got bad news.
The New York Times writes,
the FBI director, Cash Patel,
came tearing across the hallway
with two men in tow.
His girlfriend was hiding in a room
with another man
who was holding her hand.
Did you have to add that?
Was that a necessary detail
to add to the story?
Cash Patel's girlfriend,
I was in a room
a man gently caressing her arm,
the man's muscular chest teething
with anticipation as he bellowed,
I'll protect you, Cash Patel's girlfriend.
You know the person I felt the most sorry for,
honestly, the whole night, probably the featured performer
of the evening, mentalist Ouse Perlman.
He was a mentalist. He was going to perform.
It's probably the biggest opportunity for visibility
that the mentalist community
has ever had.
And then, in the middle of it,
Pow, bough, pow! The whole thing goes.
Caroline Levitt, the press secretary, said, challenge me.
He said, I'm having a baby next week.
And she goes, can you guess what I'm naming my daughter?
And I was guessing letter by letter, how many letters were in the name.
Is there anything more compelling than a mentalist or magician,
just describing to you verbally a trick that he would have done?
That if you had been there, would have been cool.
I'm sorry, I interrupted.
And then I, right at the moment where you see it happen, I wrote down the name, and I said, how did I do?
And I turn it around, and that's when you see the first lady go, oh.
Yeah, that's right. That's when the shooting happened.
That gasp wasn't, he nailed it.
It was, that was gunfire.
And by the way, the shooting happened just as the mentalist was revealing the name of Carolyn Levitt's unborn child, which, as amazing as that might have been, one would have thought.
that a more timely revelation
would have been to write something on the card
like, everybody run.
There's just, hold on.
I'm going to, okay, I'm going to show you something.
It's going to blow your mind.
Everybody.
But perhaps nobody's character was revealed
as much as our brave president,
Donald Joshaphir Trump,
who sat down with Nora O'Donnell
the next day to explain that fear
was definitely not the emotion he was feeling.
I wasn't worried. I could see what was going on at the door.
I also saw a lot of very strong, physically strong, really attractive law enforcement people come through those doors.
Does that matter? Is that part of how attractive? Look, I don't want my life saved by a six.
I don't want some pig face walk. We got to go, Mr. President. Not with you, friend.
Not happening.
But how did it feel?
You surrounded by really attractive law enforcement.
And frankly, it made me feel very safe.
Yeah, I'm not sure safe was the emotion.
Yeah, I saw them come in and I felt myself get safe as a rock.
They were so attractive.
Safe as a rock.
That's why I didn't stand up to run.
Took a moment to think about baseball.
But Trump wasn't only impressed with the officer's good looks
or their asses being so taught that any shooter,
bullets would have just bounced right off.
He was also impressed
with their skill. They drew those guns so fast.
They looked like Matt Dillon.
I know what you're thinking.
Matt Dillon? Is Donald Trump so old?
He's confusing the guy from something about
Mary with Matt Damon
from the BORN movies.
But it's not true.
Trump is actually so old. He's not
confused at all. He's referencing
Marshall Matt Dillon
from the Guns.
smoke TV show.
A show that
I'm too young to have watched.
Yeah. Are you
saying this? I'm too
young to know that show.
Now, by the way, you may have noticed
Trump's demeanor very conciliatory and
pleasant towards the reporter. Perhaps this
is the new Trump. I don't know if I could
ever be as rough as I was
going to be tonight. I was going to really
rip it last night. I was talking about
everybody. And then I said,
well, my speech is going to be much
It'll be a speech of love.
His perspective has completely changed.
Until, see if you can spot the moment
in the Nora O'Donnell interview,
where Trump decides, nah, f*** that.
The so-called manifesto is a stunning thing to read, Mr. President.
He appears to reference a motive in it.
He writes this, quote,
"'Administration officials, they are targets.
And he also wrote this.
I'm no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat my hands with his crimes.
Did you catch it?
He does one of those gym from the office camera takes.
Remember that nice thing?
Yeah, no.
Now, to be fair to Trump, why would you read out loud the would-be assassin's political take?
I think once you go vigilante, you forfeit the platform.
I'm sorry.
But she got the sound bite she was looking for it.
Well, I was waiting for you to read that because I knew you would because you're you're horrible people
horrible people.
Yeah, he did write that.
I'm not a rapist.
I didn't rape anybody.
Oh, you're not a pedophile.
Do you think he was referring to you?
I mean, I was just reading you the Asazza Manifesto.
I had no idea you would think he was referring to you.
Lord have mercy.
But you know what?
Maybe this is a moment where Trump will rise up.
These events clearly point out that we have a problem in this country at the nexus of mental health and the availability of powerful weapons.
And maybe, just maybe, this sobering night will spur a movement for some solutions.
We looked at all of the conditions that took place tonight and I didn't want to say this.
I know what he's going to say.
We need to put a shit ton of money towards mental health and getting illegal weapons off the street.
That's what he's going to say.
Or I'm no mentalist.
Did you have...
Did you have something else in mind?
It's actually a larger room, and it's much more secure.
It's drone-proof.
It's bulletproof glass.
We need the ballroom.
Yeah, that's a great solution to gun violence.
For you.
What about the unballroomed rest of us?
Balls, churches, schools, synagogue, wherever.
Not every town can have a ballroom.
Didn't you even see footloose?
A ballroom?
That's the solution.
That is the dumbest
fucking idea I have ever heard.
No one is going to go along with that.
The ballroom will be a solution for this.
I think we've got to build that ballroom as soon as possible.
The ballroom makes total sense.
A ballroom is imperative for a lot of reasons.
The president needs the ballroom.
Let's build a ballroom and just all dance like no one's shooting.
That was my gas hands, by the way.
That's as far as my hands go jazz.
But back to the dinner itself, the incident happened in a room full of journalists,
and there was one fact the media could report on with certainty.
They're heroes.
You really saw the best of the entire DC Press Corps on display journalists
who immediately sprung into action to cover this historic moment.
Credit to the journalists, by the way, who continued to do their jobs in that room.
Thank goodness for all of us trying to do our jobs.
The journalistic heroes of the evening.
You know, we should have an awards dinner just for us.
You know, it's a great place to do it.
The Helltale.
As always, one hero rose above them all.
Can we just give Wolf Blitzer some praise and some credit?
And of course, you Wolf saw it closer up than anybody else,
and we're so glad you're okay, and you did the extraordinary journalism that you're known for.
Wolf, you are an international treasure.
Wolf, you were the first to tell the world what actually had happened.
I have to say we are lucky that we have a reporter like you.
you who happened to bear witness.
You have some people who are legends for a reason of Wolf Blitzer is one of those people.
Did Wolf Blitzer die on Saturday?
Yes, undoubtedly, the MVP of the news turbation that was this weekend was CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
All right, Wolf, walk us through the attack.
We had just finished the first chorus, which was a delicious salad, the president was up there.
But after the first chorus, which was a good salad.
We had just finished appetizers.
This is dangerously blurring the line between reporter and old man at event.
We were, the salad was delicious.
I'm sorry, what were you asking?
I'm sorry.
We'll try and stay away from the food stuff.
Let's get back to the more salient details.
And I walked away to go out to the men's room.
I was going to go to the men's room, which you had to go up one level upstairs.
The men's room was outside the ballroom.
you had to go up one flight of stairs to get there.
It's a good men's room.
It's a spacious men's room.
The urinals are fine.
It could use a grab bar, if we're being honest.
I like the men's room where each sink has its own soap dispenser.
You get the one where everybody has to go as they're leaving.
It's a bottleneck.
It creates a bottle.
Come on, Blitzer.
What happens?
As I'm leaving the men's room to come back to the ballroom, all of a sudden, to my left, I hear gunshots.
Boom, boom.
The next thing I knew, a police officer pushed me to the ground.
There we go.
That's what I'm talking.
Now we're in the shit.
That's what I'm talking about.
All right.
What happened next?
One of my shoes came off, and it took me a while to find that shoe later.
One of my shoes fell off, and now I have that shoe back.
I was walking around for a while without a shoe.
Oh, my God.
It was just a sock.
You got it back.
Were you doing live shots with just one shoe?
I was doing live shots with one shoe.
Wow.
No!
But yeah, every journalist on the scene last night was a bona fide hero.
And by the way, I'm including The Daily Show in that,
and our own intrepid reporter that we actually sent to that dinner.
Triumph, the insult comic dog, who is on the red carpet for the White House Correspondence Dinner.
Trying to get interviews along with the rest of the press.
Can't miss Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
Trying to crack.
some jokes, no doubt, at Secretary Rubio.
Why is Triumph here?
I am covering the red carpet, and I don't mean
Jen Sacky. To talk more about his experience, please welcome
our own intrepid reporter, Triumph, the insult comic dog.
Look at that. Thank you so much.
Oh, yes. So, so, Triumph? Yes, John.
How do you feel after being at this
dinner on Saturday? Well, you know, John, I'm not the person
who likes to throw around the word hero.
But after Saturday, I can't help not only throw it around,
but put it on the metal and have it printed at staples.
It's quite impressive.
That's 100% golden rod, John.
No, I can see that.
Take a look.
Look at that.
I understand it was a traumatic evening.
Yes.
You got to admit, hero is a little bit much, yes?
Oh, so what? Wolf Blitzer's a hero?
Oh, he reports.
without one shoe.
Seriously, man,
I'm out there with my balls hanging out.
Were you worried about,
to be honest, getting killed?
Yes, but mostly because
I didn't want RFK Jr. to eat my carcass.
It's not the way you want to go, John.
Not the way you want to go.
But, you know, I have
to tell you, the larger issue
that we continue...
The lower...
The lower...
The larger issue we continue to have is gun violence and no effort to pass legislation to stop a
John, John, John, please, don't do this. Don't politicize a political event.
I'm not, it's not, I'm not politicizing a tribe. It is a fact. It is a fact that in America,
another event is ruined by gun violence. And we're lucky this time. No, I'm going to keep talking.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
John, now is not the time.
Now is not the time.
Can I ask you a question?
Did you wipe your feet when you came in?
I used the same bathroom as Wolf Blitzer.
Try clearly, you're still traumatized.
Yes.
I went through so much.
Yes.
I contacted HR and talked.
told them I'm going to need an emotional support dog.
Yes.
Preferably a poodle who's into butt stuff.
You know, a lot of people bring up the fact that we do also have a hate speech problem in this country.
Do you think it's time we all take a look in the mirror?
You know, there is talk about how we have to take the temperature down and then we have to...
Shh.
Shh.
I have like five more jokes to get through.
And then you can talk about temperature.
All right.
What else you have?
as I was saying, John.
It was dramatic.
Everything is still so fresh.
All these sounds are still in my ears.
The firing of the bullets.
The commands of the secret service.
The satisfied moans of Cash Patel's girlfriend
coming from the closet.
Thank you so much.
We'll have your full report on the show tomorrow.
Thank you so much.
You're really disgusting.
You've aged horribly.
You look juieer than ever.
No, that's not true.
It's so sad.
It's really.
Really awesome.
No, when we come back, Jody Cantor will be joining me in the studio.
In New York Times, her latest book is called How to Start Discovering Your Life's Work.
Please welcome to the program, Jody Cantor.
The mayor of your reporting for a very long time.
Thank you.
Your latest reporting, Supreme Court, which is one of the more opaque, I think, that we have in our government.
Some documents were leaked to you about the Supreme Court.
Talk to us about what this article is.
So about a week ago, Adam Liptack and I put in the pages of the New York Times
16 pages of internal documents from the court, private correspondence among the justices
that we were not going to see for generations that show the origins of something called
the shadow docket, which is a new way that the court has been doing business for about
the past 10 years.
And so the reason we were eager to do this is because this is a way of listening to the justices as they talk in private.
These are them emailing.
Well, there are memos that are being shared.
Their clerks are the ones.
They don't Snapchat.
They don't.
It makes sense.
But the point is that we can see the exercise of power in these memos.
And we can also see the justices disregarding.
centuries of time-tested legal decisions,
a legal decision-making process
about being very deliberate and doing things slowly.
And in these five days of memos,
they both halt President Obama's climate change initiative.
These are from 2016.
These are from 2016.
So they're stopping Obama's plan.
Turns out later, we see this is like the beginning of the end
of federal attempts to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.
Yes.
But also, they're doing this thing like really, like very quickly and without a lot of deliberation
that is going to turn into a break with the way the court does business.
And this is the origins of the system we see today where, like, for example, if you look
at how this court has treated President Trump, they've awarded him a lot of power.
Sure.
They've done...
Virtual immunity from any kind of...
The immunity decision was a merits case.
That was a regular, slow, played out case.
Had to write it out.
Yes.
On this emergency track, they have awarded President Trump a ton of power without explaining
themselves to the public very often.
Explain the shadow dog here, because I think that's interesting.
Okay.
We're accustomed to the decisions that are made.
There's a dissenting opinion.
There's a lot of course work
that is cited, precedents and things like that.
How does the shadow docket differ from the other docket?
I don't know the terminology.
The merits docket.
The merits docket.
Okay, so like, let's call those regular Supreme Court cases.
Yes.
They play out over a very long time.
There are oral arguments where things are discussed in detail.
Best kind of argument.
The justices meet in person.
They have these secret media.
called conference meetings. They sit around a special table, they sit in special chairs.
Do they really?
They do. They discuss the cases in person, they vote, they do many drafts of their opinions.
They go back and forth. They change things. They're deliberative.
They're deliberative. And then here it will, but I want to give you what is probably the most
important part. They write opinions and here's why opinions are important. If we're talking
about our elected officials, they're accountable to us through elections, right? If we don't
like what they're doing, they're removed. These justices are appointed for life. There are no traditional
forms of accountability, save impeachment. The act of writing an opinion is the act of accountability.
It's a judge or a justice saying, listen, you may disagree with my opinion. My opinion may put
your brother in jail, or it may cause your business to close.
But I want to show you that I've been fair and I've been diligent.
They show their work.
And I'm just applying the law.
So that is a judge or justices explanation to the public that over time has earned the court's trust.
In a lot of shadow docket decisions, there's like there's almost no opinion.
It's like a paragraph.
Like on this 2016 case.
Like just a post-it?
Like, yeah, that's not going to fly.
It is pretty much a judicial postage.
and it has instructions
that are kind of legal boilerplate,
but it has no reasoning,
and reasoning is the essence of the law.
And is this something that is not...
When did the shadow docket appear,
and couldn't they think of calling it something
less sinister than the shadow docket?
Well, there's like a whole debate
about what it should be named.
So the shadow docket emerged slowly over time,
and it definitely existed before this 2016 case,
but it was used.
in a more narrow way. It was used mostly for death penalty cases, election cases that were true.
A literal emergency. A literal emergency. Okay. And so what we're seeing, and we're seeing an expansion
of the shadow docket and the reason why this case was an inflection point is because the D.C.
Circuit, which as you know, is like a very big deal court.
Sure. I love their shit.
Was supposed to hear the case. Yeah.
And instead, the Supreme Court jumped in front of them and made this ruling when no other court had weighed in.
The way it usually works is that the Supreme Court comes at the end of the process.
But don't they have to be, someone has to have standing and has to petition them.
They can't just jump in and be like, shadow docket.
There was, the applications came.
But what's interesting, and like, I would really urge everybody to go online.
and read these memos.
And also, Adam and I annotated them to, like,
they're not really written in English.
They're written in, like, a kind of legal Latin.
So we did some translation for you to be able to see.
Roberts in the memos, if I may,
seems like a little bit of a catty bitch.
Well, what I would say is that the Chief Justice was in a real rush.
Like, this was fast.
But he seemed offended by certain things.
Well, he was in a power struggle.
with the Obama administration,
which he felt had sidelined the court
on a previous EPA decision.
So you are seeing, like,
you're seeing the Chief Justice be very dismissive
of colleagues' procedural objections
because the Democratic appointed justices are like,
this is weird.
Like, we've never done this before.
Like, why would you do this?
Like, I have serious concerns about this.
And he says, we have,
we have to go ahead. This is urgent. We have to do it this fast because this is the most expensive
program of regulation ever imposed on the energy industry. Okay. So he says, no, this is an emergency.
It's an expensive regulation about, and if we don't jump in now, it's going to cost a lot of money.
So then why not the tariff case? When the president levies tariffs, why don't they, boom, give him a shadow docket.
and go, you can't do that because it's going to cost us trillions of dollars.
It's going to put small business.
How is that more of emergency than the tariffs?
I mean, I think what you're asking is, like,
you're asking, has President Obama and President Trump,
have they been treated the same way by the justices?
I am asking that.
Thank you.
That's what I meant.
So what we see, I mean, what scholars have shown is that shadow docket cases have more partisan results
in, than the slogan.
How many more, when you say it was used, it's not used as much, how often are they using it now and how far does that number distance it from precedent?
I mean, this was a trickle 10 years. Like when this case we wrote about happened, people were like, whoa, like what is even happening here?
Now it is a regular way of the court doing business. We counted it was about 20 cases in which.
Is it supposed to be temporary, though? Is it when they do a shadow?
docket to be saying, very important. We're just putting out a marker and we'll come back to it and tell you why.
So defenders of the court would say, yeah, these are temporary decisions. Critics of the court would say,
but they have huge consequences. Like they're deporting people. You're not going to undeport somebody
necessarily or you're making massive changes to the federal government that are very hard to undo.
So they are temporary, but they are hugely consequential. Has there been a shabotty?
docket case since Donald Trump took office or in a Republican administration that's been
utilized to diminish the power of the executive if the Republicans are holding it.
And wouldn't that then just grant those powers to a new Democratic president when they're
elected if we still have those?
I am afraid of giving you the wrong answer because I don't have every case in my head.
No one.
These people, they literally have the game on while this is going.
The most important thing to say is that the cases have been decided overwhelmingly in President Trump's favor so far.
But aren't, isn't it time we understand that the court is now an explicit political tool?
Weren't we being naive?
You know, when you have Leonard Leo in the Federalist Society literally growing justice,
in pods in a lab somewhere and spending millions and billions of dollars.
Shouldn't we now, shouldn't we be aware of that?
So this is one of the questions we're trying to answer at the time.
So what we've done is we've assembled a new team.
There are five of us working on Supreme Court reporting now.
And I think there was often an assumption in the past that we could write about the decisions,
we could write about the oral arguments, but we couldn't get behind the scenes to see how power is really
being exercised. But listen, journalists scrutinized power. It's what we do. And we can't have like a
Supreme Court-sized exception in our compact with the public. So in stories like this, in other stories,
we have been able to get behind the scenes because there are so many questions about the court
that we don't have answers to. The place is a locked box. How partisan are the justices?
You're a great question. How do people age?
in these jobs? What does it mean to hold power with like no accountability for 20 or 30 years
at a time?
What's under the robe?
Who's trying to influence the justices? And so slowly these are the questions that our whole
reporting team at the Times is starting to answer.
As you start to peel back that onion a little bit, is there a danger that we
will suffer from a nostalgia of past courts that they operated in a way that had more integrity
or less power politics or, you know, not as personal in terms of the animus or different things
that are going on, because we view those courts nostalgically to some respect, especially like
the Warren.
It's such a great question. Courts have always been political.
I mean, look, the justices are appointed by the presidents. We totally know that.
that. But the job of a justice or a judge is to transcend, right? It's to be truly independent.
It's to look at every case. But we know that. We watch the confirmation hearings. How many
times in the confirmation hearings that those guys go, I'm an umpire. I just call balls and strikes
and stare decisis. It's all about precedent and I would know. And then as soon as they're in,
but are you saying, John, but are you, but are you, but are you,
But do you still believe that it should be the goal of the courts to transcend political bias?
Yes.
Yes.
So like...
They should.
Yes.
Will that put pressure on them to do so, or are they ultimately just captured by the same political industry that captures everything else?
I mean, I'm a reporter because I believe that information makes everything essentially better.
Right.
And we're having a lot of debate about this country, about the Supreme Court.
Yes.
I want us to have the most information possible so that we can have the healthiest, richest,
fairest debate about these, like, pretty difficult questions.
I mean, people are talking about packing the court.
You know, we're the only constitutional democracy without age limits or term limits or judges.
And so I think there's going to be a lot of debate about that, too, right?
And so we just, you know, it's hard to have a really great debate about a place that is totally secret.
So that is why we are trying to cast some light.
I can't even tell you what a beautiful sentiment I find in that, which is, you're right.
It may be corrupted and it may be operating on a partisan principle, but isn't the idea to get us more and more information because that's the only way to improve it.
sometimes that's lost in the shouting and the clicking and all those different things.
I think that's exactly the sentiment that we forgot.
Well, thank you.
Yeah.
It's excellent.
And then you wrote another book, and I didn't get to that one.
It's for your kids, so you might want to take a look, yeah.
It better be a picture book.
And it better be about looks maxing.
This was advice you gave to.
college graduates who are, it was a, you're giving a speech at Columbia.
Yeah.
About graduates. And this was kind of the advice you were handing on.
Well, it was a crazy situation.
Remember like the chaos at Columbia?
I'm familiar.
So in the middle of it, I get an email from them saying,
will you give the undergraduate commencement speech?
What?
And it's like an honor, but also kind of a bad offer, right?
And so my friends from college...
We're going out of business.
And we were wondering...
So my college friends...
are like, don't do it, call on sick.
Like, you're going to get booed.
And I was like, give me those kids for 15 minutes
because I was so upset as a reporter, as a mom,
as a citizen, at like, seeing this place
that stands for enlightenment and discussion
just descend into total toxicity.
So I was like, okay, I'll do it.
Thank you. I'm honored.
But I need to talk to the students
because I got to read this room very carefully.
So I get on a Zoom with the students, and they ask me a great question.
They say, we chose you because of your career, and we want to know how in this crazy environment are we supposed to find and start our life's work?
And I was like, this is awesome because that is such a hard.
It's like such a good question.
And I knew.
And this environment is very different.
It's not, we no longer bound by the traditional parents.
It is, well, speaking of the word generational, this fear is generational.
I have, like, spoken at campuses all across the country.
The elite universities, the more humble universities, there are common fears, right?
But I don't want to spend all our time tonight on the fears, because, like, we all know what the negatives are.
I mean neither.
The interesting...
I'm not that guy.
Do you think I'm that guy?
Is that what you're suggesting?
I'm not that guy.
I heard you say before you were a little concerned about AI.
But the really interesting question is like, what are young people actually supposed to do?
Like, what does a positive, productive response look like in this environment?
So that's what this book is about.
So you can either read the book and get it and find that out, or you can probably just run the question through chat GPT, I would think.
You know just what to say to an author, John Stewart.
You're doing unbelievably great work.
Thank you so much.
I still appreciate you being here.
How to start.
Discovering your life's work is available right now.
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Excited for your week coming up.
Josh, what do you got for us?
It's a huge week, John.
We got a royal visit.
It's Charles III's first trip to America as king,
and I am so excited to ask His Majesty how our nuts taste.
I'm sorry.
How, what is that now?
How our nuts taste, John.
It's America's 250th, baby.
All right.
anniversary of when we smoke the British
like Memphis brisket.
We kicked those inbred
bitches from Bucker Hill to Yorktown.
And I can't wait to show them where it all
happened. I'm going to be pointing like, we beat your ass there,
we beat your ass there, here's where you
cried. Josh, I don't, this is,
if I may, this is not that
it's a friend, Britain is an ally.
They're an ally. Yeah, because they
know if they step out, we'll fuck them up,
all right?
No, I wish a Windsor Wood, King Chuck.
No, that's...
Josh, why are you being so aggressive?
Because we really need a win, John.
Oh.
Yeah, we've been getting embarrassed all over the world.
Iran guys in a chokehold.
Even the Pope put us in our place.
The Pope, John.
No, I don't...
We need a fight we can win, you know?
So when I see you in the streets, King Charles,
I'm slapping the beans out you.
Josh Johnson, everybody.
Here it is. Your moment is there.
The royals are coming.
The royals are coming to the U.S.
The British are coming.
The king set to speak to Congress in the U.S. Capitol,
which the British tried to burn down on the War of 1812.
We will never forget.
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