The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump Talks "One Day" Dictatorship | Michael Rubin

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Charlamagne Tha God discusses Trump's town hall with Sean Hannity and calls for Joe Biden to step aside for the 2024 election. Plus, Ronny Chieng and Michael Kosta debate on Taylor Swift's latest hono...r, Time's Person of the Year. And you've probably seen presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy on your TikTok feeds or on TV talking about banning TikTok, and asked yourself, "Who is this skinny kid with a funny last name?" Buckle up, because there are A LOT of answers to that question, and they can all be found in this Dailyshowography of Vivek Ramaswamy. Plus, Fanatics CEO Michael Rubin talks to Charlamagne Tha God about his journey from a kid who barely got through high school to becoming a billionaire entrepreneur, the work he’s done for probation and parole reform as the co-founder of REFORM Alliance, and his reputation as the Notorious H.U.G.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure does suck. We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a supermajority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now, really doing some damage. I'm Michael. I'm Riannan.
Starting point is 00:00:16 And I'm Peter. Our podcast, 5 to 4 is about all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has thiaeeeeeeaaeaeaeaeae, thiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. to thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. We thi. We thi. We thi. th country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out 5 to 4. That's the number 5-4, wherever you listen to podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. From New York City, the only city in America. It's the show that invented news. This is the Daily Show with your host, Charlemagne the Daily Show. I go by the name of Charlotte Main to God. Hello everybody. Let me tell you, the holiday spirit is definitely in the air tonight. Human Resources told me I can't say which holiday
Starting point is 00:01:11 holiday, so which the favorite, that's the vibe. Yeah. We've got a great show for you whichever is your favorite, that's the vibe. Yeah. We've got a great show for you tonight, so let's get into the headlines. As we all know, the presidential election is in full swing. Posters are interrupting your dinner campaign ads, are interrupting your TV shows, and people are intentionally visiting Iowa again. Yeah. So let's check in on the latest developments in our ongoing election coverage
Starting point is 00:01:48 with Democracy 2024. Let's start with Donald Trump, the only rich person who's never heard of Ozympic. Now, yesterday we were talking about how everyone is worried that if Trump gets back into the White House, he's going to declare himself a dictator. And now with Trump is firing back saying, hell yeah, I am. At a town hall overnight with Fox News host Sean Hannity, Donald Trump was asked what should have been an easy question.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Would he abuse the power of the presidency during a second term? I want to be very, very clear on this. To be clear, do you in any way have any plans whatsoever if we're elected president to abuse power, to break the law, to use the government to go after people? You mean like they're using right now? He dodged the question, but minutes later, Hanity pressed him again for an answer. Under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight. You would never abuse power as retribution against anybody. Except for day one. Except for day one.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Meaning? I want to close the border and I want to drill, drill, drill. That's not, that's not retribution. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to to to to to to to to to to the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, tho, tho, tho, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the, you, the, you, you, you, you, the the the, you, you, you, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho..................... tho, they're they're they're they're they're they close the border and I want to drill, drill, drill, drill. That's not, that's not retribution. I got. I'm going to be, you know, he keeps, we love this guy. He says you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah, here we go again. true. Once again, Trump tell tre's going to do, and no one's believing him. You Trump supporters are all in my mentions with your clown emoji saying, you Democratic Shield, you're overreacting. Trump's not a dictator, he's telling you. Okay?
Starting point is 00:03:37 And no, it doesn't make it any better that he says he'll just be a dictator for one day. Saying you're going to be a the dictator the dictator the da the the the to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump to pump the to pump to pump the the to pump to pump to pump tha thoom thoom thoom thoom thoomom. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. thi. thi. th. th. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. tr. th. thi. thi. You. You. You's th. You. You. You. You. You. You. You th. You th. You th. You th. You th. It. It's, thi. It's to to to thi. It's to to to to to t t t t t t t t te. tr tr true. true. true. true. I's true. I's true. tru. tr tr tr tr true. t going to be dictator for one day is like having sex with your partner and telling her, you're only going to pump once. Ladies, would y'all believe that shit? No one ever pumps once. On purpose. And by the way, I can't believe I have to say this, but are you going to be a dictator? It's not a normal question. You should have to ask a presidential candidate. If you have to ask your babysitter, are you going to eat my kids?
Starting point is 00:04:19 It doesn't matter what their answer is. The fact that you needed to ask him means you should get another babysitter. So Donald Trump is currently running on a platform of dictatorship, and the only man standing in his way is President Joe Biden. Seeing here looking at his own approval ratings, people have been questioning why Biden hasn't stepped aside, and last night Biden gave an answer that, just raise more questions. Now to President Biden's candid new remark on why he's running for re-election. During a closed-door fundraiser Tuesday, Biden told supporters
Starting point is 00:04:52 quote if Trump wasn't running I'm not sure I'd be running but we cannot let him win. And just a short time ago John he renewed his claims that he's going to beat Trump watch. Do you think there is any Democrat who could beat Donald Trump other than you? Probably 50 of them. You do believe that there are. I'm not the only one to beat it, but I will defeat it. Oh my God. This is Biden's ego talking.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Okay, if you think there are other people who can beat him, step aside, all right? I know you think think th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks thinks think you've got this in the bag. I know he thinks he's got this in the bag, but the polls say otherwise. I want Biden stepping in to beat Trump the way I want him stepping in to defend me at a bar fight. I appreciate you, Karen, but I don't like our chances. The point is we don't need Biden to beat Donald Trump, just like we didn't need RBG to stay on the court, okay? Maybe if RBG had retired during the Obama years, we'd still have Roe v. Wade, maybe.
Starting point is 00:05:54 But people said no, she needs to be here to protect Roe. And now, look, both of them are going to go. It's true, they're both gone. See, the facts are, Biden's not getting any younger, he's not going to get any more popular, and he's not getting a new running mate. So please, Mr. President, give America the ultimate Christmas gift and step aside. All right, let's move on to a more important election. Every year Time Magazine announces the person of the year. So that people remember what Time Magazine is.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And this morning we found out who won 2023. Sam Jacobs is Times Editor-in-Chief Sam, good morning. Welcome to today. You can reveal right now who it is. Are you ready for it? The 2023 Time person of the year is Taylor Swift. Okay, let me just let's just get this out of the way Sam. Because the world is on fire right now. And you know, this is person of the year and it purports to say
Starting point is 00:06:56 this is the most influential person or group of persons in the world this year. You pick Taylor. We know about her influence. How did you justify this decision this this decision this decision this decision the the. the. the. their. their. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the ti. ti. ty. te. te. te. te. te. ty. tyl. tyl. tyl. tyl. tii. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. ti. te. te. te. te. te. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t. te. t. t. t. the world this year. You pick Taylor, we know about her influence. How did you justify this decision? There are a number of different choices that could have represented 2023. And I don't think there's anyone who's moved so many people so well as Taylor Swift did in 2023. Yeah, also my teenage daughter doesn't speak to me and I thought this would help. But, but, yeah, yeah. But yes, Taylor Swift is Times Person of the Year, which is terrible news for Taylor Swift. Have you seen how the past few winners of this are doing?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Last year, Zolinsky won. How's Ukraine doing now? Yere before that, Elon Musk got the cover. How's Twitter doing now? Y'all before that, Elon Musk got the cover. How's Twitter doing now? Year before that, Biden and Kamala got the cover. Enough said. Forget Travis Kelsey, if this pattern keeps up, next year Taylor Swift is going to be dating the pointer for the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:08:00 But the question is, does Taylor Swift deserve to be person of the year? To discuss, we turn to Ronnie Chang and Michael Costa. Let's start with you, Ronnie. Why did Taylor deserve this cover? Well, uh, as a Swifty, I can say. Isn't it obvious? A massive tour that generated like $5 billion for the US economy. A movie about that tour that saved movie theaters.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And she made football even more popular. Not to mention all the break-up she got me through. I mean, I was getting dumped on purpose just to enjoy those songs more. Good point, Ronnie. Okay, that's the pro-Taylor side. Now let's go to Michael Costa. Michael, give us the anti-Taylor side. What? No, no, no, no, I'm not doing the criticize Taylor Swift on television. She deserves all her success, her music is great, she was terrific in that Katz movie,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I wish nothing, I wish nothing but the best for her and her army of incredibly passionate and defensive fans. Let me go. Michael, I'm very confused. You were telling me earlier today how stupid you thought it was to give her a person of the year. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Charlotte, Charlotte. This is not what I said. I wasn't talking about Taylor Swift, and you weren't even talking to me. I've never even said words until now. How am I doing? Listen, listen, can't we just talk about something less controversial, okay? I've got some strong opinions about Palestine. And I...
Starting point is 00:09:49 Don't be afraid, Costa. Remember earlier you said you couldn't believe with everything going on in the world? They'd give person of the year to some overrated singer-songwriter. Yeah, you said that, who dances like Phoebe from friends is being electrocuted? Yes, that was you. You said, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th some some some some some some, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I to, I th. I th. I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. I, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. th. thi. th. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. tho. to to tho. to tho. to, I've the. the. that, who dances like Phoebe from Friends is being electrocuted. Yes, that was you. You said, and I quote, I wish Kanye would interrupt her more. You said that. Charlemagne, I have a family, please, okay? I didn't say anything like that about Taylor.
Starting point is 00:10:21 That wasn't even me. I think you're confused with Ronnie. That sounds something like Ronnie would say. Don't you know him, he's always like, uh, I hate everything. Uh, including Taylor Swift and babies and puppies. Oh, fuck these bloggers. Uh, you know. Shalomane, these Taylor Swift haters like at Michael Costa on Instagram and theyktak, they discuss me, okay? First, despite what Michael says, the way. Michael Costa on Instagram and at Michael Costa underscore on Tick-Tock. They discuss me, okay? First, despite what Michael says, the way Taylor Swift
Starting point is 00:10:50 dances makes her relatable. All right. And two, she can easily fulfill all the responsibilities of times person of the year. Okay, she can pose for the cover, she can hang on the wall, and then that's it. Those other responsibilities. Michael, he's got you there. Oh, oh, are you at the airport? What are you doing? What does it look like I'm doing, you loose-lipped-snitch bitches? Okay?
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah. I'm fleeing the country. I need somewhere to hide out, somewhere safe. One ticket to North Korea, please? They don't have any the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the internet the country. I need somewhere to hide out, somewhere safe. One ticket to North Korea, please. They don't have any internet there, right? Come on, Costa. You really think the Swifties aren't going to find you? Well, that's why I'm changing my name to something generic, like John Mayer. Mayor, Ronnie Chang, everyone. When we come back, we'll find out the truth about Bavik, Ramathwami, so don't go anywhere. Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure
Starting point is 00:12:07 does suck. We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a super majority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now, really doing some damage. I'm Michael. I'm Riannan. And I'm Peter.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Our podcast, 5-4 is about all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country. the, theeeeeeecke. the. the. the. the. the. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th........ And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to-a. And, to-s, to-s, to-s, to-a. And, to-s, to-s, to-s, to-a. And, thi. And all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out 5 to 4. That's the number 5-4, wherever you listen to the Daily Show. Tonight was the final debate of the GOP primary, featuring three well-known politicians and one newcomer with surprising stand power. Who is this upstart who Donald Trump is reportedly considering as a potential running mate? Well, he's the subject of our latest daily showography. Americans are divided. Fighting over everything from beer to boating etiquette to whether that mother's
Starting point is 00:13:11 shit is real. That mother's back there is not real. Sometimes it can seem like we're living in different realities. Luckily, there's a presidential candidate who exists in every reality. Today, I am announcing my run for President of the United States. A powerful being who can travel between dimensions without even pausing for breath. President Trump, I believe, was the best president of the 21st century. As U.S. President, I would have made different judgments than Donald Trump made.
Starting point is 00:13:42 The climate change agenda is a hoaxe. Climate change is also real. By the way. Happy Juneteenth. Everybody. I'm very open to banning Tick Tock outright. Yes, I'm officially on Tick Tick. We're going to be on here a lot. Pops and drama mean because this is the daily showography of the Vake Ramoswami. Enter the Ramaswami was born on earth prime to Indian immigrants in Cincinnati, Ohio. He learned at an early age how to navigate the multiverse, being raised Hindu but educated at a Catholic school, and eventually, using both to his benefit. I share those same Judeo-Christian values more so than even many self-professed Christians. You see, Vivek is more Christian than most Christians, because he's Hindu.
Starting point is 00:14:32 By the end of high school, he already knew that time is a flat circle. The word commencement comes from the French word commencé, which means to begin, and yet now we use that same word commencement to describe a ceremony marking the end to our four-year high school experience. It was undeniable. This bright young man owned a dictionary. After graduation, Ramaswami went on to study at Harvard and Yale, and came out a man of the people. I think many people are like me, people who are disgusted with the establishment. Yes, separately Harvard and Yale are the establishment, but together they cancel each other out, like a hamburger and a salad.
Starting point is 00:15:13 After law school, Ramaswami was ready to tackle the world. One version of him became a stand-up comic. I was actually a one-time aspiring stand-up comedian in New York City myself. Another became a pro-tennis player. I'm a tennis fanatic. If the path was open to me to have pursued that career, I would have done it. And a third entered the business world
Starting point is 00:15:32 as the founder of Royvent Sciences, a company that sounded scientific, but also wasn't. Instead of developing its own products, Royvant bought failed drugs from real pharmaceutical companies and tried to find uses for them. Because those drugs might not work in our universe, but maybe he could sell them in a universe where they did. Many of Roybant's secondhand drugs failed, but in the multi-verse, failure and success are all the same thing anyway. As a hard-headed businessman, Ramaswami had no interest in the world of politics. I was out of politics back then. I was an apolitical guy. But he was propelled into yet another alternate life by the only force powerful enough to rip a hole in
Starting point is 00:16:13 the space-time continuum. Wokeness. I was a CEO who, like so many CEOs, was browbeaten into potentially making statements on behalf of Black Lives Matter after George Floyd died. Among CEOs in America I was unique in saying that I refused to do it. It takes a brave man to take a stand against sympathy for the dead and the Republican Party took notice. As an Indian American who isn't Indian American, Ramaswami was just the person to assure white conservatives that while racism exists, it also does not. I'm sure the person to assure white conservatives that while racism exists, it also does not. I'm sure the Bukinan white supremacist exists somewhere in America. I've just never met.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Maybe I'll meet a unicorn sooner. That's right, Vake has never met someone who hates people of color, aside from the guy who cuts his hair. In 2023, this anti-elite outsider with nearly a billion dollars in Ivy League connections was ready to quantum leap into the Oval Office. But which recent president would he model himself after? Yes. Well, you have to give a vivacet credit for following the Trump playbook to a team. Jim, I'm sorry. You're fired.
Starting point is 00:17:19 John Lemon, you're fired. They're saying that you're the Republican Obama. A skinny kid with a funny name. This skinny guy with a funny last name. Eve Pluribus Unum out of many one. E. Floribus Unum from many one. From a many one. Yes, Ramaswami shamelessly borrowed from two men who won the presidency,
Starting point is 00:17:42 and yet he simultaneously will never be president. Remarkable. Ramoswami picked up supporters in one dimension as a classical pianist and in another as an equally accomplished rapper. My name's Vivake it rhymes with cake. It ain't about thee, it is about me, it is about the United States is about liberty. Back to reality off there goes reality. Off there goes mom spaghetti. When not spitting bars, Ramoswami is talking about the issues. Familiar issues, like closing the Mexican border,
Starting point is 00:18:14 but also the upside-down version of that. Don't just build the wall, build both walls. And who's going to pay for it? Mexicana? Ramaswami is a thoroughly modern Republican, and also he's not a Republican. I kind of cringe when someone says fellow Republicans, I'm not a party to. He's a man whose principles make him strong and also weak, your greatest strength. A firmness of my convictions.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Hmm. Biggest weakness. Firmness of my convictions. Indeed, his firmness of conviction is like a coin. It has two sides and ultimately isn't worth very much. But that's the genius of the Vagramis Swami. He's not nearly a Christian Hindu elite every man, successful failure, classical rapper, independent, Republican, anti-immigrant child of immigrants. He's everything, everywhere, all at once.
Starting point is 00:19:07 When we come back, Michael Rubin will be joining me on the show, so don't go anywhere. Have you ever been watching the news and thought to yourself, wow, the Supreme Court sure does suck. We made a podcast about that. We sure did. There is a supermajority of conservative maniacs on the Supreme Court right now, really doing some damage. I'm Michael. I'm Riannan.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And I'm Peter. Our podcast, 5-4 is about all of this. Every week we dissect and analyze a different ruling that has made our country a little worse, a little more cruel. And you would not believe how many of them there are. Check out 5-4, that's the number 5, dash, the number 4, wherever you listen to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an entrepreneur, philanthropist and social justice advocate. He's the CEO of Fanatics and the co-founder of the Reform Alliance.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Please welcome Michael Rubin. I got it. How are you, sir? How are you, sir? How are you, sir? How are you, sir? Doing amazing. How you doing? How you doing? I am blessed black and highly favored, man. Now, that's a pretty good response. I like that. Yeah, you worth a 11.5 billion dollars, Michael Rubin.
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Starting point is 00:21:06 I've always been working. So I've been eight years old, selling things, baseball cards, snow shoveling, and then just started a ski shop and when I was 12 years old. Is that a dream? Like, Do billionaires have a group chat? Is it like you, Mark Zuckerberg? Bill Gates?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Well, we're on you with a group chat, of course, but you know, I don't know. Listen. I act my wage. Listen, you act, listen, you're a warugn't. learn from everyone around me. I've got so many different types of friends. So there's no group chat with lots of really successful people. Okay. What do you planning to do with all your money when you transition? You know, Warren Buffett always says he's gonna give it all the way? First of all, first of all, I've never transitioned.
Starting point is 00:21:52 I want to work as hard asthe way that they do? You know what? I understand why there's that hatred. I think when you're really successful, we have a big responsibility to give back to make a difference in the world. I think which you do it. And I think if you do it the world a better place and that's my responsibility. I owe it to people to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:25 What political party, yeah, yeah. What political party is better for the economy, Republicans and Democrats? Listen, this, this, I'm not a political person, but what I will tell you. I didn't ask you that. What political party is better? Well, I'll tell I tell you tell you tha thia thia thia. thi I thi I'll thi I'll thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's that's that. that. that. that. that. that. that. th. thi. that's, I that's that's, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, I th. Yeah, in business you take no political party because that's the best answer for business. But for business, what would I say is better? I honestly, like I'm not a cop and I hear, I don't think about it. Like I focus on what I can control and I can't control politics. And by the way, I don't like politics because I don't like the outcomes aren't for me at all. I'm sure they come to you to like donate though. Do you
Starting point is 00:23:05 donate the political campaign? I do. Okay. I do. And you know I donate to people who I think can make a big difference. I'm generally much more of a Democratic you know giver than a republic. I can't remember last Republican I've given money to but I want to give money to but I want to give money to people that to the way, my guy, I'm going to say the guy I started with and I'm not really into politics, but Josh Shapir, the governor of Pennsylvania is my guy. He's amazing. I hope that guy's president one day because he'd kill it. A lot of people say Biden should step aside and somebody like Shapiro, she'll step up.
Starting point is 00:23:35 But they got a lot of good candidates, but Josh Shapir is a guy who I think could be an amazing president. And I've been working with him since he was running the Montgomery County, which is like the township I grew up in. Wow. You do a lot of work in criminal justice reform as well through the Reform Alliance. Speaking exclusively about criminal justice, which presidential candidate do you think could get the most done? Because you work with both of them. Well, you need both of them.
Starting point is 00:24:00 The truth be told, to get anything done, you need to be both together. And if there's one thing I've learned, if you only work with the Democrats, only work with the Republicans, you can't get laws passed. So right now in Pennsylvania, we're going to get a very important law passed to change the probation and parole laws. And we're bringing both the sides to know, some of the things Reform Alliance has done, because y'all have done a lot. Yeah, so Reform Alliance is focused on changing the very broken
Starting point is 00:24:32 probation and parole system. What's crazy to me is that 25% of the people that go to prison jail each year don't go for committing a crime. They literally have what's called a technical violation, and they go to prison for not committing crime. So you know the story. Everyone knows the story of Meek Mill who's you know family do. I think each of us he popped a wheel in a motorcycle and he went to get that sentence to prison for two to four years for not committing a crime. So that was the inspiration to start in the Reform Alliance and we've now changed 17 bills, 11 states, and we've reduced 700,000 people, 700,000 people less today on probation and parole than when we started this
Starting point is 00:25:12 less than five years ago. We have amazing founders, Jay-Z, you know, Meek Mill, Robert Kraft, myself, Clarissa, we have Laura Arnold, we have so many amazing members have come together, by the Republicans, Democrats, just bringing people together to fix their really screwed up and broken criminal justice system. I love the story you tell about realizing there was two Americas because of the meek situation. Yeah, well, I'll tell you one thing. If they're just being completely blunt, up until up until the time I was probably five years ago, I really, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, the thought the criminal justice system worked the way it was supposed to. You would have said to me five years ago, you know, what percentage of people that go to prison and jail should actually go? I'd say it's like 99%.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Today, I'd say that is the most screwed up broken system I've ever seen in my life. And the amount of people that that the amount of people that, you know, Meek, if that that that that that that that that is that is that is that is their their their their their their their their people their people their people their people their people their people their people their people their people their people their people their people who their people who's their people who are to go. to go and people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are people who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who are who's who's who's who, we, we, we're, we're, we'. They went to prison for that. You know, Meek, if he went to pick up his kid, 10 minutes from where he lived without permission from his probation officer, would have gone to prison. And so what we really want to do is just fix this screwed up system. We are making good progress. By the way, it's hard. We're taking a business approach to, you know, you. to to to to to to their their taken, you, you're taking, taken, taken, taken taken taken taken taken tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. than't than't thae, than't thauillion, to thea, thea, tha. tha. tha. tha. thae, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, thea, tip tip tip tip tip tip tip thea, thea, thea, thea, te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. tea. te. Yeah, well, most of those people you're talking about are black and brown. Yeah. But, by the way, I, I agree with you, but I also say sometimes like things just like inertia kicks in. You just got to go and say like, we looked at this and said, we're going to take a business approach. We're not going to allow this to work. the business. the business. their. their. thapapapapapapapapapapap. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. their. their. their. their. their. I'm, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, I I I I I I I I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. Yeah, I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. Yeah, I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. I'm a. A. I'm a. I'm a. A. A. And, I'm t. Yeah, I'm t. I work the way it's working and you know what we've made a lot of progress in less than five years. Absolutely, you're doing great work. Let's talk about fanatics because you're the CEO fanatics which is a one-stop shop for sports fans if you don't know. Are you working with college athletes now with
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Starting point is 00:27:53 were thinking about giving a kid who was in 10th grade millions of dollars and I said I feel like I'm gonna be going to be going to prom like we're gonna be making a pitch outside of a prom. So it's crazy it's very th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's th. It's to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. to to to to to to be to be to be to be thi. I's to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be. I's. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm the the their. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's. I. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's. I's a th. I's a th. I'm. I'm th. I'm t. I'm t. I'm t. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm tell. I'm to to tell. I'm to be going to prom soon. Like we're going to be making a pitch outside of a prom. So it's crazy. It's very hard to get your head around, you know, how young these kids are. But it's such an amazing situation in reality. I mean, these kids, they work so hard. They're so good to what they do. They drive our business.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So I'm really happy for them. You used to talk about 19-year-olds, 20-year-olds, and now we're talking about 14-year-olds and 15-year-olds. I did have a conversation with Drake that we should sign his kid, or I think it was four or five when we first came up, four years old when we came up with the idea for it. Bro, you start it early. Yeah, you know what? I mean, we're like, to them at fanatics. Talk to me about the fanatics athletes immersion program. Yeah so you know look one thing I feel is we're blessed to do what we do we're really lucky to work with so many great athletes every day we work with 3,000 incredible athletes and so we wanted to come up with a
Starting point is 00:28:56 program we would get help athletes you know really figure out what they're going to do when they get done playing so we're now building a program that next year together with USC we're gonna have 60 professional athletes in all the major sports come and intern at Fanatics and also and they start they start with this internship program with Fanatics and also at USC to really do all the different parts of the acts. They're working in Mitchell Ness, they're working our live commerce division, they're working our online sports betting division and our merchandise business and just learn all the different different different different different different different different different different different different different different different different different the different. the different their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thors sports. thors sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi sports sports sports sports thi sports thi. thi. thi sports thi sports thi sports thi sports thi sports thiau. thiau thiau thiau thiau thiau thia. thi sports. the trading card division, they're working our online sports betting division, and our merchandise business, and just learn all the different things that we do.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And we did our first class a few weeks ago, and it was incredible. WMBA players, they had so much fun. It was great for me to feel like we can help them figure out, they're their tick up their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi first thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi.... thi. thi. thi. thi. thi their different different thi. thi. thi. thi. thi thi. their different different different different different their their different different their their different their their different their their their different their their different their their different their different their different their different their different their their different their different their their different their their thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tei. teii. tei. tea. tea. tea. tea. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th next? Is there an uptick in WMBA jerseys now? Definitely an uptick in WMBA jerseys and I think a lot more upticks to be had. Right. Yeah, dope. Now, Michael, you throw what is now an infamous white party in the Hamptons, all right? It's called a white party.
Starting point is 00:29:59 A small party. their party. And it's called a white party because everybody wears white, not because everybody is white. I just want you to know that. Last year... I think our diversity is pretty good. Oh, you have an amazing diversity. We're going to talk about that right now because you gave us this infamous photo. I call you the notorious H-U-G, okay? Because you like the hugge rappers from the back. I'm a hugger, I'm making hugging cool in 2024. That's my goal. I mean, fanatics, reform alliance, it's all about making everyone hug
Starting point is 00:30:26 in 2024. But what it comes from, if I'm being honest with you, is I love bringing people together. And so I've always been a hugger my whole life. And so, you know, there might have been, that could have been like, you know, a few shots, maybe shot, they, maybe,'t really look and what went on Instagram and how other people could perceive but I'm a big hug. You told me that you know you don't, you know you're... and I want bigger hugs from you know, you know what? And I want bigger hugs from you too. Like I didn't feel like hugge, you're,
Starting point is 00:30:52 a little hugged. No, no, no, I didn't I that. I th. I th. th. th. that. You say you're skeptical. No, no, what I said was, baby's such a brother to me that we were in Vegas a couple weeks ago and he looked at me. He's like, you know, you can still hug me. He was like, he was like, he was messing around with me. ticket things and find out what's wrong with things. And to me, the white party's about bringing people from all different cultures, all different backgrounds together to have a 13-hour incredible evening and morning. 13 hours. You gotta be built for this, by the way.
Starting point is 00:31:32 There's like training camp. I remember having a conversation with a couple of people who are some of the best athletes in the world. superstar on football or superstar in basketball but this is a 13-hour endeavor here so are you sure you can make this? That's not like a cocaine bitch to me 13 hours? 13 hours a part of it. It did end this year with I think Kevin Hart and I crawled up the steps together it was more of a crawl than a than a walk. Yeah I mean you do seem to make like these street rappers and like athletes melt like this one picture you and then be, like, look at that is so cute. Listen, it's my guy, it's my guy. I mean, listen, why do you think you have this effect on them?
Starting point is 00:32:09 You personally? You know, I think, you know, a lot of rich people, a lot of people that are successful. They're not relatable. They're not normal. And so, like, to me, for someone, to, to, to, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, to, it, it, it's, it's. to. to. to. to, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to.'s combined. Okay. Got a 1.87 in the one semester I went to college. Like the only thing I'm succeeding on is like common sense and a little bit of relationship skills. And so, you know, but that's what makes me me me. Which is why you're going to give me a big hug at the end of this. Oh my God. All right. Oh, that. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's never being yet.
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