The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump's 10,000-Plus Lies & "Avengers: Endgame" Spoiler Backlash | Pete Buttigieg

Episode Date: April 30, 2019

President Trump tells over 10,000 lies while in office, Roy Wood Jr. addresses film spoiler outrage, and 2020 White House hopeful Pete Buttigieg discusses "Shortest Way Home." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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how many of them come out on Thursday. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart wherever you get your podcast. April 29, 2019. From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York. This is the Daily Show with Trevor Noah, Ears Edition. Welcome to the Daily Show, thank you. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Welcome to the Dirty Show, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for coming out. Yeah! Yeah! Oh yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's make a show. I'm Trevor Noah, our guest tonight is the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and you've probably seen him on the campaign trail. Pete Budajashe is here, Yes, yes. I am so excited. We're going to talk to him about everything. Reparations, Mike Pence, what it's like to be, one of only 600 Democrats running for president. So exciting.

But before that, we've got to catch up on the news. And today, my friends, there is a lot of news. In fact, I don't even know if we have enough time to catch up on all the news. Nobody does. Luckily though, not enough time. It's just the right amount of time for a little segment we call, Ain't Nobody Got Time for that. the President. President Trump loves bragging about the records that he set as president. Higher stock markets, lowest unemployment and bestest brain ever. And over the weekend, he added a new record to the list. The Washington Post says that President Trump's lie count since entering office has now

hit five digits. The newspaper's fact-checking team says that Trump has now told more than 10,000 lies or misleading claims. This is a remarkable number for a U.S. president to reach. That's right, folks. Since he took office, the president has officially lied over 10,000 times! Yeah! Yeah! So exciting! Yes!

Yes! Yes! Oh man, what an exciting day. President Trump has officially told over 10,000 lies. Always, he says, that's right, I've told over 1 million lies. You realize how crazy this is, right? If you average it out, this means Trump has told an average of 12 lies every single day of his presidency.

That's a ridiculous number. Like, if Trump was Pinocchio, he could probably tell you what it smells like in China. That's how far that is. And what's even more impressive is those 10,000 lies don't even count the times that he told Eric he loved him. Yeah, it doesn't include that. It's only public lies.

Only public lies. And look, and look, I know all politicians have been the truth, but Trump clearly has no relationship with the truth. Like if he sees truth on the street, we could probably go into details on all of those lies. But unfortunately, life expectancy. So let's move on to another story affecting the White House, the Mueller reports. Tensions are flaring between top congressional Democrats and Attorney General Bill Barr ahead of his scheduled House Judiciary Committee hearings on Thursday. Democrats revealed yesterday that Barr is threatening to skip the hearing over the terms of his appearance. Democrats proposed that the panel go-go- to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the to the the to the their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their the th. th. th. thii. thi. the. the. the. the. the. theii. thei. theoooo. the. theo. the. the. the. the. the. their. threatening to skip the hearing over the terms of his appearance.

Democrats proposed that the panel go into closed session to discuss the redacted sections of the report, which Barr is actually objecting to, arguing that such closed-door testimony rarely remains private. Okay. This mother's story is just getting out of hand now. Because now, the Attorney General is refusing to share information with Democrats in Congress, which is wild, right? Because he's America's top cock, but basically he's like, I ain't no snitch, I ain't telling

you shit. Nothing you do to me is worse than what Trump will do to me. Now in case you haven't been keeping up, right? William Barr over here, he isn't just a midlife crisis Harry Potter. No. He's also one of the few people who seen the full Mueller report. And the Democrats want him to tell them what's under all of those redactions, yeah? Because the report, that's what it looks like.

the report that looks like it looks like last night's episode of Game of Thrones. You can't see shit. You're like, what was that? What was that? It's like the first people to die in that battle was HBO's lighting crew. What was that? And aside from the redactions, another sticking to a no-show, which I'll be honest with you, I totally

understand. Yeah, introducing a lawyer to any situation puts people on edge, yeah? Any situation. Someone's like, would you like to join me for dinner tomorrow? Be like, yeah, my lawyers will be present. Actually, I'm on a diet forever. Now if we had more time wea we we we we we we to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to the to to the to the to the to the to the to to to to to to to to the to be to be to be to be the their la their la- their lye, their lye, their lye, their lye, to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their l l l l l l l their l l their l their le, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. to, to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. today, t, we could delve into how complicated this fight is, because on the one hand, Democrats legally have the power to subpoena Bar for testimony. On the other hand, if there's a threat, someone would leak classified information, Bar has every right to be worried. But we don't have time to talk about Washington's leaks, R. Kelly. R. Kelly's defense attorney says charges against the R&B singer need to be dismissed, since

he can't read. Kelly was charged in a civil case for alleged sexual abuse, but he didn't show up for court, so his accuser won by default. To his attorneys, though, are saying that he was served papers in the case while he was in jail. And since Kelly suffers from a learning disability, he didn't understand what those papers were all about and therefore he didn't act on them. Yes, you heard that right. Arkelli is saying the reason he didn't show up to defend himself in court was because he can't read. And I'm sorry, that doesn't sound like a valid excuse.

I mean, there's so many other excuses I would have accepted. Like, I don't know, Google Maps was down. So I couldn't find the courthouse. Or it could have been like I got trapped in the closet. I couldn't get out. Yeah? Or it could just be like, I didn't want to go because I thought maybe you'd put me in jail? Yeah, that's a good excuse? It's also surprising for R teacher was probably like, all right, Robert, spell your name. He's like, R. Yeah, I'm just gonna go with R. R from now on. Now, on any other day, we would spend time roasting RKELI for how he suddenly brings up a reading disability when it's his day in court.

But we don't have time to get into all of that, because pretty soon, all need that time just to get where we're going. Uber drivers are planning to go on strike in seven major cities next month to protest poor working conditions and low pay. All drivers in participating cities will reportedly turn off the app for 12 hours on May 8 which means no rides for customers during that whole time. The protests also coincides with Uber's first day of trading on Wall Street. Okay, wait, wait, so Uber drivers are striking because of poor working conditions? It's your car. That's a bit weird. That's a bit weird.

I mean, that's like a homeschool teacher going on strike. Just be like, this school is small and the kids are dumb as hell. We support you, mommy. Shut up! But, okay, jokes aside, I understand why some Uber drivers are going on strike. You see, many of them complain that after expenses, they don't make a living wage. So for 12 hours in some cities, there will be no Uber. And I get what they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they're what they're what they're what they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they don't make a living wage. So for 12 hours in some cities, there will be no Uber. And I get what they're trying to do, but I don't know if anyone will really notice, right?

12 hours? Like, that's how long it usually takes for me to get an Uber. Yeah. No, I don't know about you, but it's always like, oh God, all right, and he's he's he... he. he's, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, oh, all, oh, all, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. they're, they're, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. tha. they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they is, nope, now he's on the highway. Yep, he's on the... He's on a flight to Japan? Are you, are you, oh man, wait, this asshole now? Oh, wait, he's reconnecting with his family. Oh, oh, they were estranged many years ago. They decided to bury the hatchet. Oh, I'm for an Uber strike.

And if you need a right to the airport that day, get ready to find out who your real friends are. Now, with more time, we could get into a larger conversation about the downsides of the gig economy. For instance, is it right that they keep tosk rabbits in cages? We don't know. But we don't have time to analyze U.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S. to.S. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to to to to to to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to find to to to to to to find to find to to to find to to find to to to to to to to to to to.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S.S. the the the the the the their their their their the their the their their their their their their their the government is in disarray in the aftermath of the Easter terrorist attacks. In Spain, last night's election results have come in and although the ruling party came out on top, the far right anti-immigrant party won enough votes to get 24 seats in parliament. That's insane. Plus, this is Spain's third election in just four years,

which is even crazier. Like even their term limits come in tiny little portions, just like, hmm, little, little bit, little bit. And I'm sad, we don't have the time to cover all of the news happening all over the world because the biggest news that's got everyone talking is from the universe. Avengers fans assembling. And smashing records over the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ing is from the universe. Avengers fans assembling and smashing records over the weekend, bringing in an estimated $1.2 billion in its global debut. Any spoilers were highly discouraged. Don't spoil the end game.

Buffalo Bill's running back, Lashon McCoy, not getting the memo, and tweeting the ending. Angry fans starting an online petition to end his contract and ban him from seeing future marble movies. Oh wow. Come on, Lashon McCoy, you tweeted out the ending of Avengers? Who does that? How would you like it if I tweeted the ending of your football season? Spoiler alert, the bills don't make the playoffs.

You see? Not cool. Not cool. Now it's not going to be a surprise anymore. I'll tell you straight. In my opinion, nobody should even be talking about a movie after it ends. All right? If you have to talk about the movie, just do what black people do and tell you're the movie, all right? Yeah, that's what I love about going to black cinemas. Black people do spoilers in real town. It'll be like, oh shit, Bruce Willis is a ghost. That's what I'm talking about, we're in the movie together. Sorry, I know I'm passionate about this. I hate spoilers. I hate spoilers. More than any, it's one of the biggest reasons I've considered becoming Amish, right? Because if you're Amish, you're Amish, you're Amish, you're Amish, you're Amish, you're Amish, you're Amish, you're amish, you're you, you're you, you're you, you're you you th, you're th, you're th, you're th, you never to never to never th, th, th, th, th, th, to never th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. I'm th, th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th, we're th. th. We're thi, we're thi, we're thi, we're thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thi. We're thin, thi. We're thi. We're thi, we're th, you never have to worry about spoilers, ever. Yeah. I was like, Jebidiah, have you seen the new Avengers movies? Ah, that, that, that, that, I don't know what movies are yet. Don't spoil it. For more, on what to do about spoilers, we turn to a man who still has his Netflix DVD plan,

movie expert, thank you. No, man. With Avengers and Game of Thrones this weekend, it feels like every conversation has turned into a spoiler minefield. What can we do? First off, you can stop complaining about spoilers. I'm sick of you people. If you don't want spoilers, go see the movie.

That's it. Tired of the excuses. Oh, I got a job. I got a trial. So do I. But I still chose to go see Avengers at one in the morning, opening night. Yes, I miss work. Yes, my kid misses doctor's appointment and didn't get vaccinated.

Yes, the whole school got measles. But the point is the point is the point is the point is the point is the point is the point is the point is the the the the the the vaccinated. Yes, the whole school got measles, but the point is, either you want it or you don't. Are you being serious right? Roy, it's impossible for everyone to see a movie on opening weekend. You have to be respectful of all the people who haven't seen it yet. Well, how am I supposed to know who hasn't seen the movie yet? I want to talk about the movie. Here's an idea. Here's an idea. When you introduce yourself to somebody, tell them how far long you are in your favorite shows.

Just, just say your name, then tack that on after the end. You know, like right at the end, like right after the agenda pronouns. Here, let's try. Let's try it. Oh, that's actually dope. Yeah, that's actually dope. Yeah, now I know everything about you. Is that the one? That's nice. I can do that. So I'd be like,

Hello, I'm Trevor. He him. Breaking Bad, season two. Season two. Don't get attached. They all die. Well, everybody, every character. Yo, you just spoiled Breaking Bad for me? And that's another thing. If this has been more than five years, we didn't spoil it, you took too long.

Can't expect me to keep quiet on some shit you should have known by now. Matter fact, let's just go and run through a couple of the classics. Darth Vader is Luke's father, Fraydo gets whacked. Kevin Spacey was the bad guy all along. Oh, no, Roy, Roy, I haven't watched the usual suspects. Oh, no, I'm talking about Kevin Spacey in real life. Well, I can't tell the difference. You know, because you're spoiling everything. I don't know. You know what?

It's actually assholes like you that. I'll tell you that. Social media was built on assholes like me. What do you expect from social media anyway? It's the Wild West. You got Nazis, both people, fake Russians, vegans, you think they're going to all come together like, hey, we all have our differences, but let's not spoil Miss Mayzel for Trevor.

Instead of complaining about social media, how about you do this? Stay off your goddamn phone. Unplugged a little. Take a walk. Smell the flowers. Your child has measles. He needs you. People's children got measles because of you. Whatever, man. Fine. I'll give you social media. But okay, you have to agree. You have to agree on this. It's not cool that some people go out of their way to spoil movies for people. That's fair. I'm with you on that. If you the movie the movie you the movie you the movie you the movie you the movie you, the movie you, the movie the movie you, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, to to to to to to to to th thi, to to to to to to to, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. to th. to th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. And, and to to the way to spoil movies for people. That's fair. I'm with your on that. If you've seen the movie, don't be a dick about it. And if you are a dick about it, be ready for the consequences.

When they said don't spoil the end game, they meant it. The cast and crew of the Avengers warned fans to keep the secrets to themselves and those who did not, oh, they are feeling the wrath. A moviegoer in Hong Kong actually got beat up after yelling spoilers to fans after he walked out of the theater. Yeah, yes, show. Now that was a situation where somebody should have gave him the end into his story. Because if I was there, I'd have pulled the dude to the side, I'd say, hey man, spoiler alert, you about to get your ass beat. Whywood, Jr. everybody.

We'll be right back. Hey, everybody. John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast. The weekly show. It's going to be coming out every Thursday. So exciting. You'll be saying to yourself, TGID. Thank God it's Thursday. We're going to be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that

they obsess me. The election. Economics. Earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. My guest tonight is the mayor of South Bend, Indiana and the youngest candidate running for president in 2020.

Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and the youngest candidate running for president in 2020. His memoir is called Shortest Way Home, one mayor's challenge and a model for America's future. Please welcome Mayor Pete. Thank you. So good to have you here. It has been quite a riot for you, man. It's been a whirlwind. Three months ago. Welcome to the Daily Show, Mayor Pete.

Thank you. Thanks for you. So good to have you here. It has been quite a riot for you, man. It's been a whirlwind. Three months ago, most of the people in the country did not know your name, and now, as it stands, you are sitting at number three in the polling. Why do you think your candidacy is catching on like wildfire? I think it's actually all the same reasons that made my candidacy kind of unlikely.

The fact that I'm a mayor at a time when people are frustrated with Washington and looking for different sources of leadership, the fact that I'm from the industrial Midwest, which is a place that Democrats have sometimes struggled to connect with, and the fact that I'm from a new generation, which I think raised some eyebrows early on, but I think it's one of the reasons why it makes th........, I's, I's, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, the thi, thi, thi, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th...... And, thin, thin, thin, thin, thr. And, thr. And, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, throwne, their, their, their, throwne, thr's one of the reasons why it makes sense to do this. And I think all of those things that we thought might be constraints when we got into it have actually helped demonstrate that I'm not like the others and I represent something different. I think you're not like anybody, to be honest. No, because when you look at like your resume and your story, it genuinely seems like

you were created in a lab specifically to run. No, I mean listen to this. This is this is who Mayor Pete is, just a little bit. I mean, listen to this. You have someone who is a Rhodes Scholar, a war veteran, gay and religious, speaks multiple languages, and you're from the heartland. You also have executive experience. Like, what's the major scandal? You should just tell us now. There's gonna be, like, where are the bodies? Are they? No bodies. No bodies. Like. Like. Like. What, like. What, like. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's? What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's. What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's? the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their? their? their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. You. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that. their the their the the their their their their their their their their scandal? You should just tell us now. There's going to be, like where are the bodies? Are they in the basement? Are they? No bodies. Like, is that just you? Is that just how you've lived your life and then that happened to, you know, to coincide with the presidential campaign? Or is this what you've cultivated in your life? No, I mean, most of the turns in my life, no. No, I'm most. Most, most. Most, most. Most, the turns, their, thi. No. No. No. No. No. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. thi. th. th. th. thi. No, is, is thi. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. Is th. No. No. No. Is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is th. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Is thi. Is thi. Is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, is that that thi. thi. thi. Is thi. thi. thi. th have guessed that local government would have been where I found a lot of meaning. I'm not sure I would have guessed that moving home to South Bend, Indiana would have been how I would really find purpose and kind of make my fortunes.

Not a financial fortune, but you know, that my kind of professional life would be so full filth. I think, you know, so much of this is the element of surprise. I mean, five or ten years ago, you would not have said, you know, if we're going to cook up the ideal presidential candidate, let's have a 30-something gay mayor from the Midwest, right? It's almost like you come about at a time when society is at a place. Yeah, I mean, in no other time in the last 200 years, right? Would somebody like me have fit a presidential campaign? But we're living in this moment, maybe the only moment, for the last 200 or the next 200 years. But I think when you're deciding whether to run for any office, what you've got to do is you look at the moment, you look at the constituency, the district or the city or the country or whatever office you're running for,

say, what does it call for in this moment? moment that just might call for somebody like me. Let me ask you this, when Bernie was sitting in that chair... When Bernie Sanders was sitting in that chair, I asked him if he thought he was maybe too old to run for president, I will ask you the inverse of that question. Do you think that you are too young to be president? I don't think so. I mean, the age to run for president was settled by the founders. It's 35, it's in the Constitution, but also around the world. You see a lot of leaders who are roughly my age. Some of them performing magnificently. Look at the Prime Minister of New Zealand, who her leadership was amazing after the church.

Actually younger than I would be when I take office. I like that when I take office. Not if, when. I like that. So I think it's a moment that's calling for a new generation. And don't get me wrong. I don't mean to say that anybody can or shouldn't or should run because of how old they are. Right. You know, one thing, we don't think of it this way, because they entered our consciousness at different ages, but actually, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Donald Trump are all exactly the same age.

They were all born in the same summer of 1946. So three out of our last four presidents. Wow. Come from the two largest generations. And it feels like one of those moments, and what's really been exciting as I address crowds from Iowa to South Carolina, is that a lot of voters, my parents' age, who are even more excited

about generational change than a lot of the voters who are my age are younger. You have been part of a conversation that has really spread like wildfire in the country. And it's spread like wildfire on TV as well. In the media, people speak about Mayor Pete. Some people have said, you know, the reason you get so much media coverage is not unlike Joe Biden or Bernie Sanders. You know, some people say you're benefiting from white male privilege, where the media wants to cover you. and candidates who maybe would be of different skin colors

wouldn't get the same level of coverage. Do you think you're benefiting from that or do you think there's something else that gets the people going that puts you in the spotlight? Well, I'd like to believe it's my qualities and my message, but I've been reflecting on this because one of the things about privilege, especially things like white privilege or male privilege, is that you don't think about it very much. You know, it's being in an outgroup where you are constantly reminded of it. It's not when you're in a majority or a privileged group. And so I try to check myself and make sure I try to understand the factors that help explain why things are going well. Then again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again again, the the the the the the the their, their, thso, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, th, th, thi, their, thi, and, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiii, thiiiiiiii, thi, thi, thi, thi, th going well. Then again, there's a lot of ups and downs. We're having a very good moment. We've been having a good few weeks, but I'm under no illusion that it's just going to stay like this indefinitely. We're going to have a lot

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We're still here with 2020 Presidential Hopeful Mayor Pete Budajez. In your book, you share your stories, you talk about your life, especially as mayor. What I loved is, there's an anecdote about you sitting at the desk for the first time thinking, wow, it's day one. What do I do? Where do I begin? Yeah. What would your day the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to be to be th. thi. to be th. to be to be to be to be to to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be. to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be their. their. their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. thoo. thoooooooooooooo. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. today. I loved is there's an anecdote about you sitting at the desk for the first time, thinking, wow, it's day one, what do I do, where do I begin? Yeah. What would your day one be as president? You know, Obama said, I'm gonna go for health care, I'm gonna shut down Guantanamo. Trump said, I'm here to build a wall.

Everyone has the idea of day one. What is your day one as president? I think day one you launch a package of democratic reforms to strengthen our democracy. Some things that I think we could achieve in the first year, the kinds of things that we're in HR1 that the House passed but that's going to go to the Senate and die there, making voter registration easier, making it easier to take years to achieve. Launching a reform to the electoral college, based on the idea that you might say is simplistic, but you want to give you the presidency to ever get some most votes. Launching a commission to depo, propose measures that would depoliticize the Supreme Court.

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much has changed. And so when we do have a change to the structures, it's usually in a very cynical way. So, for example, a lotthough our side of the aisle are the only ones who are talking about changing the court. Republicans changed the number of justices on the Supreme Court. They changed it to eight, until they took power again and then they changed it back to nine. I would like these kinds of changes to happen not in an opportunistic shattering of norms for one party to get their way, but through a systematic set the today, toe, tock, tooke, tooke, tooke, too, too, too, too, too, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the, and, and, and, the, the, and, the, the, the, their, their, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, and, their, their, and, and, and, their, and, is is is is...u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u.u. We. Wea, too, too, too, too, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the will make our democracy stronger for the balance of my lifetime. Because every other issue that's so urgent from, I think climate tops the list, but climate income inequality, education, gun reform, immigration, you name it, is going to be very hard to deal with if we still have such warping of our democratic system itself.

It's interesting that you have these ideas that connect with obviously democratic voters, but you have the challenge of selling some of these ideas and the idea of your presidency to people who may be in the middle or have voted for Trump. And you know, some of the people who voted for Obama went on to vote for Trump. People have shown that they can switch their affiliations. How do you sell some of those ideas to somebody in the heartland? If somebody's a Trump supporter and you say to them the electoral college is something that needs to be changed, how do you sell that type of idea to somebody who feels like or has been indoctrinated to believe that those are

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talking about our democracy that we're all better off in a better democracy, but also when we're talking about some the democracy, but thr something from the Arctic, right? It's a polar bear looking for a habitat. It's a piece of ice falling off the ice sheet. When I'm thinking about climate change, I'm thinking about neighborhoods in South Bend in my Midwestern city, devastated by two historic floods, a thousand-year flood and in the atmosphere, out there in the Arctic, but in our homes, in our neighborhoods, where Nebraska's underwater, California's catching fire, South bends at risk of greater floods, and the more we can make it concrete like that, the more it's not only politically effective, but I also think philosophically better.

Because if we can't explain or validate a policy in terms of how it's going to make our everyday personal lives actually better. Right? And why are we even out here? Let me ask you about the Mike Pence versus Pete Budajez. It seems like it started out of nowhere for many people. You know, it seemed, Mayor Pete came out, that's you by the way, came out and said, you know, if Mike Pence has a problem with me, he should take it up with my creator. And this has turned into a conversation

in and around religion in America. You have an interesting idea, and that is that for a long time, people on the right have claimed religion. But you believe that there's a religious left, and religion as a whole is something that people can be interpreting differently. How do you sell that message and do you believe that on the left religion is as strong as it is on the rights? I think it absolutely can be.

I think there's a great tradition of the religious left that's not getting enough attention. I mean you look at the civil rights movement, which is certainly a product of the religious left in some senses. You look at the work that's the border to poor people across this country. And what I think it signals to us is we've got to do away with this idea that the only way you could think about the implications of religion and politics is from a right-wing perspective. Now, I'm careful when I talk about this,

because anybody in the political spacethat when I'm in church and I'm hearing about scripture about taking care of the least among us and humbling yourself and visiting the prisoner and taking care of the stranger and lifting up the poor, that has some political implications and they are radically different from the behavior of conservatives who present themselves as religious. That's just just one of the conversations that has has has that has that has th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi their their their their their their their their thi thi their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thi. I's the. I's the. I'm the. I's. I'm the. I'm thea. I'm thea. I's. I'm thea. I'm their their their their their of conservatives who present themselves as religious. That's just just one of the conversations that has followed you on the trail recently. It's been you and Mike Pence. More recently, you've been thrust into the news in and around issues regarding voters

who are black. You know, people have said, Mayor Pete, it feels like you have a blind spot when it comes to black voters in America, you know, whether it be the fact that in South Bend, when South Bend's economy rose up, black people didn't rise up as much, you know, they stayed in poverty. You know, you've had issues in and around conversations around the black police chief. What do you think you're going to do or how are you going to appeal to black voters and connect with them? Because I mean, everyone has an area where they're strongest when they're running for president. Today you met with Reverend L. Sharpton. You've gone on any knowledge or is there any idea that you would change in how you communicate

with black voters specifically? Well, I think a lot of it's the importance of outreach. So there are people who will find their way to you, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, to, to, to, to, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is..r.r.r.rown.r.r.r.r.r.r.r. their, is, is, is, is toe.r. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe will never hear from you unless you reach out to them. And it's one of the reasons why we're in South Carolina, for example, in a couple of days and we'll really be proactively making sure we're engaging, whether through the faith community or in other ways with black voters and black neighborhoods. This is important for me back home, too. Not everybody knows that South Bend is a racially diverse city. We're about 40, 45% non-white. And I prided myself on winning re-election in minority districts as well as whiter districts. But that happened through a lot of lessons learned the hard way. As you mentioned, we had some very painful issues,

especially in my first days and months as mayor, around the their neighborhoods. We have a lot of racial inequality in our city, not because we want to. But it's shown me that good intentions are not enough. You have to have intention around your policies and we're working on everything back in South Bend from black entrepreneurship to investing in historically disinvested neighborhoods. I think the same thing has to happen at the national level. Look, these racial inequities didn't just happen. They're not an accident. There are in many cases the consequence of racist policies, which means we have to have not to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have not to have not to have not to have not to have not to have to have to have to have the to have to have to have to have to have the to have to have the the the to have the the the to have the the to have intention, to have intention, to have to have to have intention, to have to have to have to have to have to have to have the intention, to have the intention, to have the intention the intention to have the intention to have the intention the intention the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the theentoentoenton intention, to have intention, the thentoenton intention, to have many cases the consequence of racist policies, which means we have to have not just non-racist policies, but anti-racist policies

if we're ever going to see these things equalize in our lifetime. And I may not be able to convince every voter out there to be for me, but at the very least I need to make sure that every voter out there knows that I'm for them. It's interesting that you say that and you've commented so much on policies and ideas that you would have for the nation. Because recently, you know, you took Flack, I think it was at the CNN Town Hall where, you know, it was Anderson Cooper who said to you, hey, you're one of the only or one of the few candidates who does not have any policy on their website their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, th, th, th, th, thi, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, to, thi, thi, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, too, too, too, too, too, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, thi.. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi.a, thi.a, thi. thi. too. too. too. too. too, too, to, to, to, to, Cooper who said to you, hey, you're one of the only or one of the few candidates who does not have any policy on their websites.

And then your response was why I don't want to inundate people with the minutiae of policy. What does that mean per se? Does that mean you don't trust that people will be able to handle the ideas of policy? Or do you think that policy is not as important as people think it is? So I think every candidate has an obligation to present the details of our policy. I've sought to do that in kind of Q&A format,

but I recognize that we'll want to continue doing that in written format, whether it's things that we'll be putting out in policy addresses on specific issues. What I'm getting at when I say this, though, is that we need to make sure we don't get trapped at the level of policy design without also talking at a higher level about the values that motivate our policies, and at a ground level about what those policies mean. Give me an idea of what that means. Well, so for example, on education. things need to happen. Like, right now, when you get student loan debt forgiven

on income-based repayment, that's taxable, and I don't think it should be. We'd be better off if it weren't. Stuff like that. Technical, but meaningful. But the biggest thing we need to do around education is have a secretary of education who believes in public education. So you say focus more on the values. So I th th th th, th, th, th, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thanks, that, that, that, that, thi's that, thi's that, that, thi, thi on the values. So I want to make sure that we start at the broad strokes so that people, when we get

into the more technical stuff, and we will, that it's understood where that's coming from and how it all fits together, instead of just presenting all the technicalities and expecting people to be able to kind of guess or derive what our values, by looking at all these bullet points in our white papers. It's not that I'm against having the white papers. It's that I want to make sure that we lead with our values so people can put the papers in context. When you speak to voters who are concerned about your experience or lack thereof, you know, you hear echoes within the Democratic Party

or whether it's centrist who say, you know, it's may a peat, the experience of Joe Biden? Does he have the experience of Kamla Harris or Corey Booker? He doesn't, and I'm worried about that lack of experience. How do you respond to that? I actually think the the experience, is one of the best mayor system we have in Indiana, where there's no city manager, for example. You are dealing with these issues up close and personal every day, whether it's homelessness or poverty or race and policing,

you're not debating them in a committee. You are you are having to manage them. I mean, one minute, we could be dealing with an economic development puzzle about incentives for somebody who's saying they're going to add jobs and the next minute we're having a parks and recreation controversy over moving a duck pond and and then that's when you get the call that there's been a racially... We're working on it yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's that's a long story but it's got to move. The ducks, the ducks will be better off. But just when you're having a good laugh about that is when the phone call comes in about a racially explosive officer involved shooting where you don't even have all the facts. And you've got to figure out what to say on television to try to hold the community together.

And what you learn is that the job has not just a policy element, not just a management element, but also this intangible part, the moral part of just calling people to their highest values. It's actually probably the thing we're most grievously missing right now in the White House and we really need it. It really matters. But look, one thing I've always enjoyed about you from the beginning is you're not afraid to jump into the sticky side of conversation and boys appreciated your ability to take a step back and go like, oh yeah, maybe I could change that or evolve. The book is fascinating. Your campaign is proving to be as fascinating. Thank you so much th th th th th th th th. th. thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really thi. It thi. It thi. It thi. It really thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiii thiiiii thii thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to take a step back and go like, oh yeah, maybe I could change that or evolve. The book is fascinating. Your campaign is proving to be as fascinating.

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