The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trump’s Xenophobic Rally and Gov. Shapiro’s Mission to “Get Things Done” in Pennsylvania

Episode Date: October 29, 2024

Jon Stewart dives into Trump’s recent xenophobic rally at MSG and his proposed mass deportation plan, sparking a critical look at the rhetoric shaping the 2024 race. Jessica Williams joins with her ...unique blend of hope and humor to lift the mood. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro discusses the state’s role as a “temporary swing state,” his approach to cutting red tape and rebuilding infrastructure, and why he believes Democrats’ inclusive strategy will win over voters.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast the weekly show. It's gonna be coming out every Thursday so exciting you'll you'll be saying yourself TGI D Thank God. It's Thursday We're gonna be talking about all the things that hopefully obsess you in the same way that they obsess me the election economics earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio
Starting point is 00:00:33 on sandwiches. And I know that I listed that fourth, but in importance, it's probably second. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? I mean, talk about innovative. Listen to The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart wherever you get your podcasts. You're listening to Comedy Central. You're listening to Comedy Central.
Starting point is 00:01:13 From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news. This is The Daily Show. My name is John Stewart. So let's get this straight. Tonight, and we talked about this with the audience earlier, this is my last show before the election. But not my last show. I'm coming back, baby. We're doing it right here. But that doesn't mean I'm not stressed out. It's very stressful.
Starting point is 00:02:19 The election's in a week. I only have one week left to decide who I'm going to vote for. It is... Normally I just vote for whoever the Washington Post endorses. But I'm not an Amazon Prime member, so... But anyway, because it's the last week, both candidates have been out there on the trail making their closing arguments. First, Kamala Harris had a rally with Beyoncé.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I cannot wait to hear. Come on. Freedom! She'll do that better than me. Your vote is one of the most valuable tools and we need you. No singing. Just a heartfelt statement of the importance of the election. F*** it, I'm voting for Trump. That's just...
Starting point is 00:03:28 Well, you know, as luck would have it, Donald Trump was holding a rally of his own right here in my backyard, Madison Square Garden, world's most famous arena. They're not booing, they're saying, Bruce. I bet Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden is going to be incredibly entertaining and uplifting as the Trump campaign enters its optimistic morning in America phase with its lineup of stars. The f***ing illegals, they got whatever they want, don't they? They're on the side of the terrorists!
Starting point is 00:03:58 She is the devil, whoever screamed that out. Her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country. She is the antichrist. The first I will never not be charmed by his girlish laugh. Now generally, that's a line up that you see outside Madison Square Garden. Yelling at strangers as they try to get inside Madison Square Garden. And let me just say, how dare they desecrate the stage that the piano man has consecrated. How dare you. How f***ing dare you? Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You know how many scenes from an Italian restaurant he's gonna have to play to exorcise the demons that were on that scene? There is not enough Down Easter Alexa's in the wall to clear out that xenophobic stench you pieces of me. But of course for the media there was one moment in particular that raised the alarms. The opening act grabbing headlines for all the wrong reasons a comedian who offered unfunny racist cringe worthy
Starting point is 00:05:38 jokes basically calling Puerto Ricans trash the most repulsive racial jokes about Latinos disgusting and hateful so incredibly crude frankly just to X rated to play here extremely vile so-called jokes. Extremely vile so-called jokes she name checked my comedy album from the 90's. Did I really? I don't know who's AI, me or that guy. Now obviously in retrospect, having a roast comedian come to a political rally a week before election day
Starting point is 00:06:25 and roasting a key voting demographic, probably not the best decision by the campaign politically, but to be fair, the guy's really just doing what he does. I mean, here he is at the Tom Brady roast a few months ago. The great Jeff Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Jeff is so Jewish, he only watches football for the coin toss. Gronk, you look like the Nazi that kept burning himself on the ovens.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Kevin is so small that when his ancestors picked cotton they called it deadlifting. Yes, yes, of course. Terrible, boo, yes. Um. There's something wrong with me. I find that guy very funny. So, I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you. I mean, bringing him to a rally and have him not do roast jokes, that'd be like bringing Beyonce to a rally and not have... Oh. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:07:30 Those people, those are just the underlings. And they brought a real dark, apocalyptic version of America to the stage. I'm sure former President Trump will temper those passions. On day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history to get the criminals out. Day one? Have a snack, meet the staff. Day one is typically we just read the syllabus.
Starting point is 00:08:00 There's no, generally no homework. But okay, day one, mass deportation. How exactly is that gonna happen? I will invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. Who the f*** told Donald Trump about the Alien Enemies Act of 1798? Because I'm going to bet you something He did not come to the meeting and go hey, why don't we use the 1798? Alien enemies act would that apply He's not a history buff As we remember from his dissertation on Robert E Lee's role in the critical Civil War battle of Gettysburg. And the statement of Robert E. Lee, never fight uphill me boys, never fight uphill.
Starting point is 00:09:11 They were fighting uphill. He said, wow that was a big mistake. He should have used the Alien Enemies Act 1798 to clear his enemies. Wow. From the man himself. That is his priority. Day one, I'm going to round up all the so-called illegal immigrants. It's a tough policy, but I guess it's gotta be done, and it's not like anyone else, i.e. legal immigrants or American citizens, are gonna be caught up
Starting point is 00:09:52 in that dragnet. I'm sure that Trump's got a very detailed and precise plan. How many people are we talking about? Millions of illegals. They think it's two million, it's probably five times that amount. You hear 15, 16, sometimes you hear 17.
Starting point is 00:10:07 We have 21 million, at least 21 million. I think it's much more than 21. So we are going to be rounding up and deporting between... Two? between two and 21 or more million people. But listen, they're all bad! And they've all committed terrible crimes. And we have catalogued, without due process, the terrible things they have done, yes? In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats,
Starting point is 00:10:51 they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there. So between 2 and 21 million people, and while they weren't actually doing that, still, chase them with guns! Because at the very least, they are here illegally. Yes, they are illegal. Donald Trump threatening to deport thousands of migrants in the country legally. So that one's tricky. But I'm confident that on day one one when Trump does his mass deportation
Starting point is 00:11:26 of anywhere from two to a hundred million people, it won't be you. It'll be them because of how precise Trump is, especially when it comes to people of color. I know Willie Brown very well. In fact, I went down in a helicopter with him. The African American politician in question was not Willie Brown, but rather this man, Nate Holden. Holden saying, quote, Willie is the short black guy living in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm a tall black guy living in Los Angeles. I guess we all look alike. I guess there's some confusion there. But he's not deporting California politicians day one. And you know, that story made him look racist. It's not the point. He really can't tell white people apart either. You said Marla's in this photo?
Starting point is 00:12:14 That's Marla, yeah. That's my wife. Which woman are you pointing to? No. Here. The person you just pointed to was Eugene Carroll. Who is that? Who is that?
Starting point is 00:12:24 And the person, the woman on the right is your then-wife, Your Honor? I don't know, this was the picture. You know what I just realized? Donald Trump doesn't have affairs. Just thinks everyone is his wife. So clearly an attempt to deport between 30 and 500 million people is going to be complicated. So it's going to be important to know how carefully the former president would execute
Starting point is 00:13:05 this plan. A lot of the millions of people have had children here who are American citizens. So yes to mass deportation even of women and children. So we're going to look at it very closely. The way you phrase it is exactly right. You put one wrong person onto a bus or onto an airplane, and your radical left lunatics will try and make it sound like the worst thing that's ever happened. Because it's the worst thing that ever happened to them,
Starting point is 00:13:37 the American citizens you mistakenly deport. Yet Trump is like, and that makes me the bad guy and why is my wife interviewing me? You are my wife right? Marla? Ivana? Ivanka? I don't know. This sounds awful but as everyone knows you can never listen to what Trump's saying and hear it. I think you're taking everything a little bit too literally. Look, Trump speaks in hyperbole. This is nothing new.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's telling you what was in his heart. You always want to go by what's come out of his mouth rather than look at what's in his heart. It's a... You're right. Why hold former presidents to what they say they're going to do from their mouth holes? Perhaps if we only look inside Trump's heart then we could see what oh that's not french fries and that's a lot of that's not
Starting point is 00:14:39 good let's see if there's anything else behind that that we could... Oh, God! And bear spray! Eee! I wonder which one of those is good cholesterol. Look. You know what? Sure, maybe Trump's just talk. But on day one, when the deportation of between 2
Starting point is 00:15:00 and 11 billion people begins, what will be the guiding principle? Perhaps we should ask the dead-eyed architect of these plans, Stephen Miller. America is for Americans and Americans only. Oh, that makes sense. We're only deporting people who've come here illegally. Or people who have come here illegally, but sneaky legally.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Or people who have children who are actually citizens. Or some people who look like they may have come here illegally, but sneak illegally. Or people who have children who are actually citizens. Or some people who look like they may have come here illegally. Or people that have protested the war in Gaza. Or a special prosecutor Trump doesn't like, like Jack Smith. Which, by the way, name a more American name than Jack f***ing Smith. Where are you going to deport him to? Faneuil Hall in Boston? Or maybe we're just going to deport him to? Faneuil Hall in Boston?
Starting point is 00:15:45 Or maybe we're just going to be deporting the people that always bring wretchedness and want. Oh, I'm sorry, that's how we describe the Irish in 1832. Or maybe we're just going to deport people whose race inherently has a certain kind of criminality. Oh, I'm sorry, that was the Italians in 1911. The point is, every one of these groups was at a place and time on the wrong side
Starting point is 00:16:11 of not being American enough. And right now you think you're safe because the group Trump's talking about, it's not you. As if, are you sure this isn't my wife, Donald Trump, can tell the fucking difference or even cares? That the day one implementation of the 1798 law that was last used to intern Japanese and German citizens in World War II will be a fine-toothed comb.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It just makes me very sad. The whole thing... John, John, John. What the heck? CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Two eyes. Do you want eyes? Is this it? Jessica, is it really you?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah, of course it's me. You think I'm a hologram? You think Comedy Central has hologram money? I'm just here in real life to tell you something, okay? Don't be sad. John, everything's gonna be okay. For you, a white guy. A rich old white guy.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You think my rich old white guy privilege will save me? Maybe, but honestly, how much longer do you really have living-wise? You have a terminal D, right? What? A termy disease. Are you dying? No.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I'm fine. Why would you think that? I don't know. Just your general vibe and the whole, this face thing. Woof. I mean, but I get why you've aged so much. It's been a whole last year of you grinding it out every single day on the show. I only host on Mondays.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Oh, really? Damn. Okay, double woof. Look, it doesn't matter, okay? No, come on, come on. It doesn't matter because for non-old white people, for people of color, and women, and queer people, it's going to be a completely different story, all right? Now, let me give you some advice.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, please. You mind? Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Oh, Jesse. Hell, I'm exhausted. Everybody's exhausted. Anger and disappointment in our political discourse is exhausting. But it's easy to throw up our hands and be like, fine, f*** it, I'm tired. Go ahead and take people's rights.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I'm just going to plow through our case of Trulies and bench 52 episodes of Love Island. Oh, oh, you want to know what those are? Truly's a hard sell, sir, and Love Island is like, Gilligan's Island with f***. Oh! What channel is that on? Hey, now, focus, okay?
Starting point is 00:19:13 I just want to be clear, all right? Do not let them exhaust you. Don't let the constant draining bullshit wear you out. Do not turn away. Look right down that barrel and say, not today, apathy. I'm only having half a case of Trulies. And no matter what happens,
Starting point is 00:19:33 we have to throw our arms around the people who need us the most and hang the f*** on. All right? I'm here now. You can let go, sweetheart. Let go, John. I'll tell them your story. But I just signed on for another year. What?
Starting point is 00:20:02 With your doctors? No, with the network. Oh my God, you crazy. You think you're going to live for another year so what with your doctors. With the with the network. I got you crazy even live for another year. Hey everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, The Weekly Show, coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredients to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as
Starting point is 00:20:47 podcast go but how many of them come out on Thursday listen to the weekly show John Stewart whatever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My name is John Sturt, as we spoke about earlier. My guest tonight, Pennsylvania's chief executive. Please welcome to the program Governor Josh Shapiro. Start! Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Nice to see you. Good to be seen. Let me tell you something. It has been so long since I have had a guest my size. They come in here with their height. Yeah, I did this for
Starting point is 00:21:47 you have a good day got real. I was reelected for another year. Yeah, he's it was that easy. It's very clear to me people are on edge in a way I haven't seen in a very long time. In your mind, you're on the ground there. Who will be the president of Pennsylvania? My wife, Lori, will be the president. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:17 It won't be me. She will win. Are they tired yet of the swing state status of the constant barnstorming, your lovely state of Pennsylvania? I mean look yes and no it's close right, but but let me just for those of you out there kind of worrying about this. The last 2 presidential races in Pennsylvania came down to a less than a point. So of course the polls are going to be
Starting point is 00:22:37 close now are folks tired of maybe some of the commercials and things on TV. Yeah, but I think folks also understand that they have an extraordinary power here and with that power maybe some of the commercials and things on TV. Yeah, but I think folks also understand that they have an extraordinary power here and with that power comes a real responsibility. I think maybe the world you can't just sit here and quote spider man. I go let let me take a leap here. I want to take a leap from from Spider-Man yes to Ben Franklin
Starting point is 00:23:09 okay follow me on this. Ben Franklin famously one of the signatories to the Constitution signs the Constitution walks out of Independence Hall is greeted by a woman on those cobblestone streets of Philadelphia she looks him in the eye and says Mister Franklin what we have here a monarchy or a republic? Franklin looks her in the eye and says, a republic if you can keep it. Those five words, if you can keep it, that's been our calling card, that's been our charge. So yes, we enjoy this sort of temporary status as a swing state, but let me
Starting point is 00:23:43 tell you something, we've been fighting for democracy for 248 years and I'll be damned if we're gonna stand down on this task. We're gonna stand up and we're gonna get the job done. Right. And I believe we're gonna elect Kamala Harris next president. Fun fact here, Ben Franklin, my predecessor. It's true. He's like the, what is it, the Craig Kilborn of Pennsylvania. He was the first host. He was the OG.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Was Ben Franklin the governor of Pennsylvania? He was. That is not something that I knew was a part of his story. I knew that he would walk out on the street and women would just accost him about the form of government that we would walk out on the street and women would just accost him about the form of government that we would be. Yeah, not a similarity I'd share.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I don't get that very much. I will say this. You know, we talk a lot about democracy and fighting for freedom and all those kinds of things. And I'm of a mindset, and it gets to something that you had done in Pennsylvania. Donald Trump to me is a symptom of a government I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not
Starting point is 00:24:46 going to go into that because I don't want to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going into that because I'm not going into that because I'm not going
Starting point is 00:24:54 to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going into that because I'm not going
Starting point is 00:25:02 to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going to go into that because I'm not going really interesting that I hadn't seen in a long time. 95 burned down. For those of you driving that area, 95 is the aorta. Yeah, 176,000 cars and trucks every day. Right. It burns down, and I'm immediately thinking,
Starting point is 00:25:18 because I'm aware of construction projects, I live in New York City. I immediately think think well, oh Pennsylvania is now closed And and it'll be nice I have family there and hopefully they'll be alive 15 or 20 years from now. Yeah, you fixed it in what 12 do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do?
Starting point is 00:25:47 What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do?
Starting point is 00:25:55 What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do?
Starting point is 00:26:03 What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? What did you do? I'll slap you right there. Don't you ever f*** yourself. I assume I got bleeped. No, but I'm serious. I think a lot of times folks don't have that attitude in government and they sort of let things happen. We have a get shit done attitude. We have the best workers in the world in those Philadelphia buildings.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But there are barriers. There are regulatory barriers. And we summoned everybody together. And when folks told me it was going to take a month to figure that out I'd say you have an hour when they said we need 3 days I said you've got a day and what we constantly did was push the envelope, you know we found when we push people they felt empowered and they were able to stand up and they made decisions when they were
Starting point is 00:26:42 standing on that roadway and they were innovative and they were creative. Right. We have the best workers in the world and we showed that when the eyes of the world were on us in Pennsylvania, we know how to get shit done and we got it done and we got it done in just 12 days. But it's an amazing story but you understand my point which is, oh, why aren't we doing that for housing?
Starting point is 00:27:01 We should be. Right. Why aren't we doing that for housing? Why? We should be. Right, so for those who are critical of government, you look at that situation and go, wait a minute, this can be done? And it's just a question of, so have those of us on the left who believe government still has a big role to play in people's lives,
Starting point is 00:27:21 have we in some ways undercut our own argument by over-regulation or the types of things that keep us from getting shit done? Yeah, I think so. Look, I believe government can be a force for good in people's lives. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing this work. Otherwise, I wouldn't have dedicated my life
Starting point is 00:27:38 to public service. But I think sometimes you're right. Over-regulation, too much overthinking, and taking power away from the people who work in government who have dedicated their lives to serving others and instead you set up a process on top of the process on top of a process. He never actually get things done. It's one of my biggest frustrations and by the way I
Starting point is 00:27:58 think it's one of the things to your point earlier that has maybe led to people feeling frustrated and looking for others who might be dangerous, destructive forces like Donald Trump to kind of shake things up, right? We've heard that before. I want to shake things up in a good way with people who give a damn about other people's lives
Starting point is 00:28:15 and who want to lift people up, not tear them down. I think we're proving how to do that in Pennsylvania. So, what happened with 95 in 12 days, you took a disaster and read over it. Have you thought about doing that with the Pennsylvania turnpike? do that. In 12 days to get disaster and read open have you thought about doing that with the Pennsylvania turnpike we're doing all right on the turnpike you're not doing all right. Yeah, you're by the jersey. Whenever I get on it to you get a certain point pass like bucks County wherever the
Starting point is 00:28:42 nice people and then all of a sudden the whole ride is this yeah. And then all of a sudden somewhere around happy Valley it just goes down one lane and you're like what the hell is going on around here. It's infrastructure night here at the Daly's. But listen, there's a serious point when people see their roads being fixed when I see their Internet being connected
Starting point is 00:29:03 when they see the lead being taken out of their water lines so their kids can drink water in the parents don't have to worry about it right that's real stuff that matters to people that's putting points on the board for folks that's what I'm trying to do every day in Pennsylvania the way that's what Kamala Harris is going to do for this country. That was a by the way.
Starting point is 00:29:24 When you have that experience with 95 did you go back into the kind of infrastructure agenda or the other things in Pennsylvania and was it an epiphany? Did you think to yourself, oh I've got to go in there with a more forceful, innovative attitude to do that and have there been other things that have occurred that you thought, hey man, I think we've got something here in terms of a methodology. We did. I mean let's stay with roads and bridges. Last year in Pennsylvania as a result of that GSD attitude, we repaired more poor condition bridges than any other state in the entire country.
Starting point is 00:29:55 We did that because we were aggressive, we put the funding together, and we empowered people to say that bridge is a problem, let's get to work, let's get it done. People want to see their tax dollars, go to things that benefit them, shorten their commute times, get their kids to school on time, whatever it is, and we're getting that done in the Commonwealth. Connected to their lives.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Was it hard for you? You were very much talked about as a vice presidential candidate and you were vetted. Were you vetted? I was. And when they vetted you, did they go,
Starting point is 00:30:25 mm? No. No. Did they, like after they vetted you, did you like, did you see how many gummies that dude had on his hand? I wish, I'm pretty boring. Honestly, the hardest part of that vetting part
Starting point is 00:30:36 was finding all my old taxes. That was very hard. How far back do they make you go? It goes back pretty far. One night I'm sitting there on the floor, on all fours, trying to go through all the paperwork. Yeah, I'm sitting there on the floor on all 4's trying to go through all the paperwork, I don't need to know that. And my wife walks in and she goes.
Starting point is 00:31:04 If only the American people could see you right now I'm literally just trying to find out well right now they're imagining it. But it does surprise me doesn't the federal government have your tax records. Yeah, look. It was much to see John. dance. It wasn't much to see John.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Can we be done now. So you're on a full. So so it's not worth it where you were you. What it was it disappointing was there a feeling that you had of like you know people said like oh it's because he's Jewish or 2 ambition like was there something inside you that thought, what was it that? No.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Not at all. Listen, first off, Kamala Harris made an outstanding pick in Tim Walls. He's done it. He's a great guy. His wife, Gwen, is great friends with my wife, Lori. These are great public servants. And Tim Walls is going to be a great vice president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And I'm all in for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. Right. And you've been, by the way, really brainstorming Pennsylvania. I mean, you're really. To you, what's the key in Pennsylvania that you believe, like, he's got a tremendous amount of strength, you think, in the rural areas?
Starting point is 00:32:22 Does it come down, once again, to sort of the suburbs of Bucks County County is it about turn out in Philadelphia. What what are the parameters of what makes Pennsylvania complicated place. Yeah. Look I guess the answer is all of the above right right you mention bucks County pretty swingy County in a swing state sure turn out in Philly is critically important but don't write off those rural areas I spent a lot of time out there
Starting point is 00:32:44 spent a lot of time listening there spent a lot of time listen to folks delivering for them, they'll vote for a Democrat the good news is comma Harris they did I mean they years ago those were really blue areas that the blue collar. Yeah, and look some of that's changed over time but part of it is I think they've been you know sort of thirsting for someone who's going to speak to their challenge I give you one example of that when I was running for governor spent a lot of time in those communities,
Starting point is 00:33:06 I remember being in a in a hunt club in Butler County and one of the folks was talking to me about the fact that they feel like they can never get ahead of a college degree I feel like they can never get ahead and that folks in government are never actually talking to them never actually trying to lift them up. First thing I did when I got elected governor literally first executive order I signed was doing away with the college degree requirement for 92% of
Starting point is 00:33:30 state government jobs at 66,000 jobs. That's a requirement. You can't work in state government without a college degree. You couldn't afford. Now you can. Are most states that way or is that? I can't speak to the other states, but a whole lot of states, a lot of the private sector things.
Starting point is 00:33:43 We set these artificial barriers to entry where folks aren't given a shot. Listen, I think people should have the freedom to chart their own course and the opportunity to succeed. And when you say to someone, hey, we don't value your military service. We don't value your service in a union just because you didn't go to college.
Starting point is 00:34:01 That says to a whole swath of the public, we're not into you. We're not there for you. Well, Kamala Harris, she's showing up in those communities that I just a whole swap the public were not in the we're not there for you will come a Harris she showing up in those communities I spend a whole lot of time in and she announced that the federal government would be doing away with that college degree requirement opening up the doors about the it's not to know as it should be I know that was a requirement by
Starting point is 00:34:19 I think Democrats should never write off these rural communities we've got to show up we gotta slide to people got to make sure we show them that we can deliver for them. You know, I'm surprised sometimes because I do hear that a lot about, oh, people don't talk to those communities. But you know, in general, I think there's a great deal of respect for heartland communities. If anything, I've always felt kind of the opposite there's this feeling that that's real America and that in areas you know in the cities and things like that that that
Starting point is 00:34:50 is that that's looked down upon or that ridiculed so I think all of those communities maybe it's it's less of a blue red state divide and more of an urban rural kind of divide. Yeah, look I think you get in trouble if you ever say one part of America is more real than any other part of America. That doesn't do that all the time. I mean, there's a lot of like all your members. Oh, the Democrats are communists who don't live in real America. And and I think the Republicans do that.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think what Democrats are doing a far better job of and I think you're seeing it more and more in this campaign is treating all people with respect no matter what you look like where you come from who you love or who you pray to look that's one of the biggest beefs I have with Donald Trump. I mean he is always trying to create others in our society separating people out you talked about this in your opening when you start separating it out one person because they live in this community or they worship a certain way, you make everyone less safe.
Starting point is 00:35:50 You limit the possibility of not just them, but of all Americans. Well, it's also easy. I mean, it's, you know, what they're, they're not just separating people. They're separating the people who are most vulnerable. I mean, I live in New York City. Every commercial is either we're being overrun by hordes of gang members that are illegal or trans people are taking over all of women's sports.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And you really do think sometimes like, oh, shit, they are? Like, it actually, like, it gets to you. And you realize, like, oh, that's a strategy to find the most vulnerable people that people don't really protect and blow it out to be as though it's the most crucial issue that anybody could see. I mean, dividing us.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Look, Donald Trump plays a game every day of subtraction. Right? I think we're trying to play a game of addition, bringing more people into the conversation, engaging more people. I think when you divide people the way Trump is, you may get some short-term political win. Like the presidency. Let's hope not. Let's hope not.
Starting point is 00:36:56 No, no, I'm just saying. But I think it's dangerous and destructive for America. Dangerous and destructive for America. Here's another one, and they're saying that this may be one of the crucial issues of the entire election, which is Israel, Gaza, Palestine. You and I are both, I'd say, five foot sevenish Jews. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I go with five nine on my card. I'm sure you do. Yeah. If you need me to scribble on that card for you, I'd be happy to. Where are we going with this, John? So I find that because I'm doing it, people turn to me and immediately go, like Israel will do something, and they'll turn to me and go, you're going to let that happen? Well, you must be an expert. I must be an expert or something like that. But in truth, I want to know your level of discomfort
Starting point is 00:37:48 with the way things are progressing and what impact it may have on the election here. Because you and I are both raised probably in a very similar way to always be on the side of Israel and Never Again and all those other things. And it's been really uncomfortable to have big cracks in that facade for me.
Starting point is 00:38:09 And I wonder if you face the same thing. Yeah, I mean, look, obviously folks ask me about it all the time, as I'm sure they ask you. I haven't found it. My job description is governor of Pennsylvania, but I'm happy to oblige and address it. You don't get to make treaties and things like that. No, no, we don't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You never thought about attacking Delaware? I do think we could take him, but I do love Delaware. No problem. Listen, I have enough capacity in my heart to mourn for the Israelis for what happened on October 7th. It was horrible. Hamas is a terrorist group, and Hamas murdered 1,200 people.
Starting point is 00:38:50 They took 250 people hostage, including Americans, John, and they brutally raped and sexually assaulted women. It was awful. And I have a lot of capacity in my heart to mourn for those and to feel horrible for what happened there. I also have the capacity in my heart to see what's happening in Gaza to these innocent folks, these women and children.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And I mourn for them as well. I want these hostages home. I want this war to end. And I want us to figure out a way. Why? Because it seems like the logical human answer, which is, oh, I mourn for the hostages and I mourn for those lives lost. And I also think what's happening in Gaza is untenable and tragic and a catastrophe. So why do we feel so helpless? It just, how are we not able to impact and bring that to a close?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Do you think about how that will come to a close? How do we get a free and safe Israel and a free and safe and independent Palestine? Look, my hope is that with the hostages immediately returned home, with an end to this war, that we can create an environment, not just in Israel and in Gaza, but throughout the Middle East, where folks want peace, where we actually have leaders who are willing to make peace.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I would think the folks do. It seems like the leaders are the ones. I'm trying to be real here look Hamas is a terrorist group they're not interested in making peace. Now I would argue Benjamin that's on Yahoo is not interested in making peace and so you've got people who are in theory was supposed to be sitting at the table and discussing ways to try and help their people exist who don't actually want
Starting point is 00:40:46 that. Now I'm not putting Netanyahu on the same scale as a terrorist group. I want to be really clear and really precise in my words, but we have got to involve a broader Middle East coalition. We've got to involve other nations of the world who will hopefully be able to come in and create the opportunity for a secure Israel, for a peaceful place, for Palestinians to be able to live. Independent free state. Economic opportunities.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I do believe, I do believe in a two state solution and I have for some of that. I agree with you. Look at this. By the way, what is happening right now is every Passover dinner throughout, generally, my entire lifetime. Is this what it is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:30 So most of my relatives are not politically aligned with where I am. Okay. And so a lot of times at dinner it gets feisty. Does it? Do you win those arguments? I do not.
Starting point is 00:41:46 It generally ends with them just going, then leave. In your own home or? Usually in my own home. Well, listen, man, I know these are all difficult conversations. I was going to say, I appreciate you being here. Any advice for those who are just trying to survive that final week and getting to the election, and any advice to people that have friends in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:42:10 that can urge them to do anything to get involved? Well, I would say to anybody here from New York, hop on a train, hop on a bus, hop in your car, bike, whatever. Come to Pennsylvania, knock on some doors, and take the sort of energy that you have, and channel it into action we could use a whole lot more help there we've got a hell of a ground game in
Starting point is 00:42:28 Pennsylvania we welcome people to support us and the people of Pennsylvania if let's say we were all to show up on bicycles. Yeah, I mean I would not show up in a match that I would not show up in a Giants jersey. Do you know I have a bet so
Starting point is 00:42:43 Jalen Brunson of the Knicks. I remember him. The point guard. Villanova. Villanova. So, he bet me that if the Giants lose to the Eagles, I have to come to Madison Square Garden in a Saquon Barkley Eagles jersey.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Yeah. And I don't know if you remember, the Eagles beat the Giants. Yeah, yeah, I remember. And so, I have to go through that humiliation. Yeah, I look forward to that. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Josh Shapiro. I'm John Stewart here unbelievably exciting news my new podcast the weekly show we're going to be talking
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Starting point is 00:44:04 Fantastic. Yes, and I have an election special airing tonight right hosting The Daily Show all this week. Fantastic. Yes, and I have an election special airing tonight, right after The Daily Show, where I go to Trump rallies with some very special guests. Do not miss it. That both sounds great. That sounds great. Yes, yes. But which one sounds better to you, John?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah, yeah. John, who do you endorse? Yeah, and before you answer, remember that Ronny Chieng wants to eat your cats and dogs. Okay, well, Jordan told me he thinks Hitler had good ideas. All right, uh, I don't know if you know this, but it's not like the election. I can just watch both. I can watch... That is true. That is very true.
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