The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Unpacking Kamala’s Campaign Kickoff with Charlamagne tha God | Behind the Show

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Charlamagne tha God joins Daily Show correspondent Josh Johnson to break down Kamala Harris’s campaign kickoff in Atlanta and the predictable backlash from Trump and the GOP. They discuss how Republ...icans’ sexist and racist attacks against VP Harris are ignoring the real issues, how she could meaningfully elevate the pop culture figures who support her, and what factors Black voters are not considering if they intend to vote for Donald Trump and JD Vance.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:10 wherever you get your podcast. You're listening to Comedy Central. You're listening to the Daily Show Ears edition. This is Josh Johnson. Correspond for the Daily Show, Charlemaghan the God. How you doing? the today's Josh, what's up, my brother? Not too much, you know, but you were here doing your piece, in my opinion, on Kamla's
Starting point is 00:01:41 as a DEI hire. According to Republicans, Tim Walls isn't the DEI hire, because to them, every letter in DEI actually stands for the same thing. Black, black, black. Which means the real DEI candidate is Kamala Harris. She's a diversity hire. Of course she's a DEI hire. One hundred percent she was a DEI hire.
Starting point is 00:02:02 An incompetent diversity hire. This woman, this disaster, whose only qualification was having a vagina and the right skin color. That's right. Having dark skin in a vagina is an instant path to the Oval Office. If you don't believe me, take it up with Ronald Reagan's black pussy. Okay? Listen, man, this argument is so stupid to me. If being a woman or a minority with the golden ticket to getting ahead in politics, then President Andrew Yang would have already done universal basic income and President Kanye West would have already changed the national anthem to Gold Digger, okay?
Starting point is 00:02:48 I mean, the real jewel that I was trying to get across in the piece wasn't even the fact that Com was a DEI hire, because we know she's not a DEI hire. It's the fact that these media outlets, the CNN's, you know, the ABC News, the MSNBC, they, ABC News, the MSNBC, they take these silly racist attacks and center them as the point of the debate. Yeah, yeah. So you'll go on these shows and they'll be like, is Kamala Harris a DEI hire?
Starting point is 00:03:14 Is Kamala Harris Black? Why are we discussing this? Why is there a whole roundtable of people having this conversation? Those are editorial choices that these news networks are making. Like, it's a bunch of people who go in the room, and they say, this is what we're gonna center today. This is what we're gonna put on the lower third. This is what we're gonna have people discussed for the next hour.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And I just think that's a waste of time. Talk about racial identity. Ta clans. the headlines. The claims about Vice President Harris's identity will probably make the most headlines. What do you mean these claims will make the most headlines? CNN, MSNBC, ABC, you're the ones who decide what the headlines are. Okay? Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Like, these issues don't make headlines unless you put it in the headline. And none of these issues should be a headline. If a guy came up to me on the street saying, the vice president is a chameleon, she can transform from Indian to Black, I see it. I'd be like, well, God bless you, sir. Here's $2. I gotta go. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:05:09 sucks, you won't watch. And that's what it feels like is that, you know, I'm on TV show, but it feels like the news 247 has a season to get through, and so they use these things things thi things thi things thi things thi things thi things thi things thi things thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, thi, and their, and the, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and th................. th, and th, and th, and th, and th...... th, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. And, thi, thi so they use these things that are a little bit easy and they know will spark conversation and they know will get backlash and maybe lead to another piece that's easy for them to cover so then they're just trying to get by. But they don't have to do that they're the news. Like you turn on CNN because you want the news. Yeah I on Fox when you want to be entertained, you turn on the Daily Show when you want to be entertained. No, I think you're right. I just think that they don't realize that because what I mean once once once, once news and money become a sort of like energetic force where they're just like I want to make sure as many people are watching as possible because of the ads, because of the
Starting point is 00:06:05 sponsor numbers and everything. That is when you start to do some of the more salacious stuff. And so it's like, I think that it's a testament. Everything, like even with Biden dropping out, it's a testament to the fact that they actually do know what's up outside of necessarily what's presented on camera. And part of that hypocrisy is later, you'll see in a panel on CNN when a CNN contributor is like, oh, I have all these people texting me from all around, from people in the campaign, from people, people, people, people, people, all texting me that like, yeah, we're worried about Biden.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And it's like, okay, but where was all of that? Absolutely. You know what I mean? And I think that it's also easy to just go wherever the conversation seems to be going. So rather than the news treating itself like a trend setter, which it is, it's trying to follow the trend of the people, which is what turns it into entertainment, which is how you end up getting stories like this. Yeah, they're competing. Well, number one, they're competing with all of these other, you know, outlets. And it's not even just other news networks now. It's really social media. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:10 You know, I said a long time ago that radio, television, they'll never lead in breaking news stories ever again. Because it seems like everything breaks on social. even when you look at President Biden, when he dropped out, he didn't do like a state of the union. He didn't do like some official press release to CNN. He just tweeted it. Yeah. He's like, I'm out, like, on Twitter. They also used to like,
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Starting point is 00:08:34 everything a roast. And so now, because that was what was winning elections and making elections close, it feels like they cannot seem to get out of that. Do you think that that level of laziness around, kind of just being racist, is going to hurt them in the long run, or do you think it plays to a certain base that needs to hear that? I think the most interesting thing about having people like the Vice President Kamala Harris in this position, it is impossible for Donald Trump or J.D. Vance to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their to their their to their to their the vice president Kamala Harris in this position it is it it's impossible for Donald Trump or J.D. Vance or damn near any Republican to attack her without sounding racist and sexist. Yeah. Because it's not like
Starting point is 00:09:13 when Hillary was running it was the same thing but it was less because of the Clinton's history and the Clinton's legacy. So he had so many different things to point at he can can't really do that, you know, with the with the vice president. I sound like a crazy conspiracy theor. It's like I think about it, he's done all of these different, you know, interviews, you know, whether it was the at the NABJ or whether it was with Aiden Ross and the only thing. And the only thing he's the only thing he can he's he can can can can can can can can thian he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's the he's he's hea. hea. he's he's they. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's the the the the the they. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the. He's the theto be black another minute, and that she's dumb. Yeah. Like she's not even attacking any policy. She was an AG, she was in the Senate.
Starting point is 00:09:50 He hasn't bought, he hasn't bought up anything from that because there's really not, there's really nothing there. And it also, I think, you know, we'll see when the actual election comes around, but it feels like most of the attacks on Kamla that they could bring up as a Republican campaign are things that would appeal to their own base. Like, like, she's a prosecutor. She's a prosecutor. And so it's like, she was tough on crime, right? That's that's the narrative, the narrative, she was tougher on crime. And if you actually dig into her record, you can see that she had a lot of progressive policies as well. It's like it's nuance, right? She's a prosecutor. Like she wasn't the most progressive prosecutor in the country,
Starting point is 00:10:29 but she wasn't throwing people under the jail 100 miles per hour either. Well, this is my thing with that became an issue for her in the 2020 Democratic primary is top cop. And it's like, I understand, I understand that there are a lot of Democrats that don't like the idea of cops or don't like cops or what, but you do like the law. Yeah, who are you going to call when somebody breaks into your house? Ghostbusters? No. You're dialing 911. Even past that though, even past just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. Even past that though, even past just the regular instances of dealing with the police in a community, what Democrat didn't celebrate when
Starting point is 00:11:13 Donald Trump was indicted, when he had to take his mug shot, when he was found guilty, that's what the legal system does. So it's like, I understand that there are aspects of legal system that are incredibly fractured, flawed, and just stray up in just, but then to put that on anybody who is a part of the system as a whole, no matter what they're doing, is like such a flawed logic that we don't need to do to ourselves. Actually, I agree with you to a certain extent, but Donald Trump getting arrested actually pissed off more people, right? Like if you already hated law enforcement, you probably ended up hating them more because he didn't get a mug shot at first in a lot of those cases, right?
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We didn't see him have to do that per walk, right? So it's like, oh, so they do treat people differently. Yeah. We literally saw it white privilege, our presidential privilege, whatever you want to call it, we saw it on full display. But it makes you dislike law enforcement even more because we know that y'all treating somebody
Starting point is 00:12:13 different than y'all would do us. Yeah, especially when you don't really understand the reasoning. You know, one of the jokes that we made around here before the actual indictments and stuff like that. It's like, well if he has to get like fingerprinted and has to get his mug shot taken and let's say he has to post a bond, does the Secret Service have to sit in there with him? And it didn't come to any of that. And I just, I don't know, I think that there are lines of atte of attack that I'm almost waiting for the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans the Republicans to bring up that have to do with policy, but it does feel like they're so genuinely stuck in her being a black woman and being of Indian descent of all these things that are like not material to whether or not she can do the job.
Starting point is 00:12:58 It's because of what you said, literally, the things that the left, right, are progressives get upset about when it comes to the vice president, or even black people, is the fact that she was a prosecutor, top cop, who allegedly locked up all these black men for weed, which isn't, which isn't true, right? If you're on the right, you can't attack her for that. Yeah, yeah. You love to see people prosecuted. Because you love cops. Sure, sure. You love to see people prosecuted. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:27 And you love to see Negroes getting locked up. Yeah, yeah. So the only thing you could do is talk about her race like, like, you know, a childless cat lady. She's a trip up because then, with her husband, the kids that he had from a former marriage and everything. So now anyone who is a step parent of any capacity is looking at J.D. Vance saying stuff like that or if Trump saying stuff like that and they're like, does he mean me? Yeah, and if you're a woman, you know, you're listening to them and you're like, you don't know why we don't want to have kids?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Maybe physically we're not to have them. Maybe I've had a couple of abortions in my life that I don't want to think about. So now I'm triggered, you don't triggered me on all levels by just calling me a childless cat lady and not even knowing what my circumstances. Yeah, and also treating it like a really small sliver of the general like electorate as a whole, when it's like the amount of people who are deciding to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. I thi thi. I thi. I'm thi. thi. thi. thioliole, thi, thi, thiolioliolioliolioli, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, I I I's, thi, thi, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, I I I I I I, I, I, I's, I's, I'm, I's, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thii, thi, thi, th a whole when it's like the amount of people who are deciding to not have kids is so substantial and I don't know I'm I'm blown away by it because you would think that with all the trolling and with all of the like wrestlemania aspects of running a campaign that they would have been like chopping at the bit to get whoever but they really did plan to just keep the same line for Biden and that's it. I saw I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho. I th tho tho th th th th th th th th th so th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th so so so so so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th so th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is so th. I th. I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho. the the bit to get whoever. But they really did plan to just keep the
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Starting point is 00:16:07 Because if he does it like that, then the passing of the torch, you know, there's nothing Republicans can really say. Like, they make it seem like it was some type of coup from the Democrats and they pushed Joe Biden out. I think what happened there is that, and I wish I wasn't being this cynical, but I think that if he was very plain in his language of why he was doing it, outside of the very sort of big ideas of passing the baton, moving on to the next generation sort of thing, I think you immediately get like whatever it is, a 25th Amendment calls.
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Starting point is 00:17:17 United States of America, everything has been upside down. I do feel like, okay, to your point, Obama wins, and then there are just, there are people in this country there, like, never again, no matter what it takes. I think if Kamala wins, the president after that has got to be like a dead lizard or something. Like, there's, there's gonna have to be, because almost, like when you talk about juxtapositions, it's like there's Obama and then there's Trump and then it's very clear the subtext of Trump is a response to Obama, which is mind-blowing to me. You're skipping one too just because that person didn't win.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But you think, eight years of President Obama, and then the next person in line was going to be a woman? Yeah, fair about it. The right was losing their mind. They was like, oh hell no. Where is the executive producer a celebrity apprentice? We need somebody that's willing to come in here and be the most racist, you know, wild, far right, conservative we've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, yeah. Let's just see if it works. I know in my mind I see them thinking like before we lose our country let's just throw this one last hell Mary. Yeah. And it what he caught it? You know what this is this is also what's so wild to me about that line of thinking is that you know I was I was I was talking to friends before we recorded. So you have Obama win. And then you have policies through Obama that actually improve people's lives in a way that is not necessarily the most glamorous, but in a way that is substantial, right? No, it is. Obamacare is glamorous.
Starting point is 00:19:00 To be able to go to the doctor and you don't be able to afford health care is very glamorous. That's okay, that's fair. I guess what I mean by glamorous is what every politician, no matter which way you lean, Republican Democrat, what every politician is up against in America at any given time is the fact that America sells you the idea that you can become rich. And there's, it is very hard for any politician, any lawmaker to circumvent the fact that we're not all going to become rich. And so after a while, no matter when you become disillusion, you might become disillusion in the era of this guy, this woman, being president, right?
Starting point is 00:19:42 And so now it's their fault that you're not rich. When actually, what's happening is, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have a, you have a, you have a thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, you have a very thi, you have a very thi. thi, you have a very thi, you have a very thi, thi, th thi, th thi, th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. A, thi. A, you have a th. A, you have a th. A, you have a th. A, you have a very thi. A, you have a very thi. A, you have a very thi. A, you have a very thi. A very thi.a, you have a very thi.a toe toe toe toe toa toa toe toa.a. toe toe thi. thi. thi. thi. thi now it's their fault that you're not rich. When actually, what's happening is, you have a very specific type of capitalism, right? So yes, Biden's the president. But Biden isn't actually in charge of the shrinkflation that Lays decides to do in their potato chips. Biden can't, unless he passes some sweeping law that guarantee you it would be fought, that tells them how many th what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what tha thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, you's is is is thi, you's is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi is is is is is is is thi is is thi................ thi's is is thi's is thi's is thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thii's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi.'t, unless he passes some sweeping law that guarantee you it would be fought, that tells them how many chips they have to put in the bag. It's not Biden's fault that your paycheck
Starting point is 00:20:11 buys you chips that have less in the bag than before. Like inflation is coming down now, but you know these greedy-ass capitalist corporations are keeping the prices up. And so my thing is, you look, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you look, you look, you look, you look, you look, you look, you look, you look, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th, th. th, th, th, th, th, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thin. thi. thi. thi. thi. thei. thei. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi citizens, whether it's through health care, whether it's through keeping credit car companies at bay from like just insane greedy fees or predatory behavior. But then you have Obama and maybe you like them, maybe you don't. But I think that what a lot of people missed is that Obama improved their lives to the point where they actually felt like it was fun to take a gamble on Trump.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Do you know what I mean? If you if you are diabetic, right, and insulin is $450 a month, and you work at McDonald's, right? Someone making campaign promises that are in any way involved with health care that can improve your life aren't just like a little game to you. This is like life and death, right? But if everything's going pretty well and there's a guy that's like, I think I could make you like another 50K a year or whatever, you're like, ah. R, to your point, a guy that says, here's $1,200 stimulus checks. You know, a guy that a guy that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, they. they. they. they. they. they. they. they. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi.00.00.00.00.00.00, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are, are.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00.00. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the th. th. the th. th. thi. th. thi. thi. I. thi. stimulus checks. You know, a guy that's like, you know, he wasn't the guy, but you know, to your point, people, they'll forget what you did,
Starting point is 00:21:29 they'll forget what you said, but they'll never forget how you made them feel. So that's why so many people reminiscount the Trump era. Yeah, because of those PEP loans and because of I'm saying? Because of the way that that same president mishandled this pandemic. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. Finding great candidates to hire
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Starting point is 00:22:54 talking about the election, economics, ingredient to the weekly show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. I guess I'm curious then about your opinion on this is going to be a bit of a like wrap-around question but basically you have comeless kickoff of her campaign and within that campaign you have Kamala's kickoff of her campaign and within that campaign you have support from less than conventional advocates for Kamala, right? So you have Kwavo, Megan Stallion, all all these different people who are celebrities in their own right or influential in their own spaces coming out for Kamala. I guess the dual question that I have is,
Starting point is 00:23:46 one, do you think that any amount of support is positive, and two, how would you sort of rate her start to her campaign so far? I think she's, for the most part, she's been running a very good campaign. I think the problem with a lot of those campaigns, especially when, you know, the candidate is black, they they they they they they they they they th, the c the ca the ca the candidate is black, they try to make them look cool, right? They think being cool is going to encourage young people to vote,
Starting point is 00:24:10 is going to encourage black people of a certain age to vote. And it's just like, no, she's a 59-year-old, you know, Indian black woman who is very intelligent, who went to Howard, who's in A.K.A., who has all of this history as an attorney general as a Senate, just let her be. I like seeing, you know, the Megan Estalians and the Quaibbles a part of the process, but how about elevate them?
Starting point is 00:24:36 And what I mean by that is, Common Land Quable have sat down and had conversations about gun violence before. So to have Quable come out in Atlanta and speak, you know, to gun violence because of, you know, how we lost takeoff, God bless the dead. That's great. What they should have do with Megan, instead of having her perform, just have her come out and speak to women being in control of their bodies, speak to women, you know, losing their reproductive rights because of, you know, of the GOP and the decisions that the Supreme Court made, like, write her something to talk about. Like, she's the woman that wrote body, yad, yad, yad, yad. And if we're trying to protect, you know, women's rights and, you know, we want women to have control of the performance and the ass shaking that threw everybody off. Because I do believe, yeah, I wouldn't, that's not something I want to see. Like, at for Kamala Harris, because she is the first black woman, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:33 and you already see how they're there, you already see what they're doing to her. Like you can go on Instagram right now, and it'll be all these AI memes of Kamala Harris, you know, head on Delicious's body, you know what I mean? Sure, sure. I've seen pictures of Kamala Harris, you know, they got her in, AI got her in bikinis, leaning over desk, like you already know how they're treating her. So let's, let's just not do that for her. I don't, I don't necessarily care, you know, either way about Megan Nestallian, you know, being out there dancing. I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I that, I that, I that, I that, I th th thi, I thi, I thi, I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't think, I think, I don't thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thin, I thin, I thin, thin, I thin, thin, thin, thin, thee, thin, thin, thee, I 't I don't necessarily care you know either way about Megan Nestallian, you know being out there dancing. I don't think that that hurt as much as social media tried to make it seem like it did but I would I would have wanted to Harris campaign to elevate Megan.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Megan is a smart woman. Megan went to college like you know let Megan come out there and like I said speak to you know, let Megan come out there and, like I said, speak to, you know, women being in control of their bodies and speak to, you know, women's reproductive rights. That's what I would have did. So, the reason that I ask about, do you think any amount of support is positive, is because I've noticed the thing now with, like I said, you know, a Trump rally or a Trump support, fe thrown, like, th... th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, thrown, th. that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. thi. thi. the, the, thr. thr. thr. the. the. the. to, that's, theee. thr. thr. thee. th were little, but it's the same, it's the same general vibe and what I've noticed. Hulk Hogan worked. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I didn't even realize how to talk about getting,
Starting point is 00:26:53 closing the borders. I didn't even realize he was talking about shipping Mexicans back. I just got caught up in the, trigger for me. I'm a kid. Like I was like my inner child is like yeah Hulk, yeah, what are you gonna do when Trump and Mania like whoa whoa whoa whoa oh yeah I know that's not what I didn't know we were going there. Yeah I guess my thing is that no matter how obscure silly actually like terrifying the things that the people come out and say or who the people are that support Trump, it's always seems to be a sort of boost and a leveling up for him. Whereas I think a lot of the support that, and you have this with several Democratic campaigns,
Starting point is 00:27:36 but do you think that that level of support almost seeming like it's a negative is an invention by the Democrats unto themselves because you know that like if someone's going to be racist they're going to be racist but do you think that playing up the like no we have to get the people playing defense is what's hurting or do you think that the support actually hurts does that make sense I'm saying I get what you saying I think the left just stands on a moral high ground that's not sustainable the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th is the th is th is th is the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the the the the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the is the is the is the is the is the is the is the is th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the a moral high ground that's not sustainable. Like the left has all of these purity tests that it's impossible for any human to pass. Meanwhile, Republicans are like effit. Like literally you saw and you saw, you saw on social media people upset, you know that Megan the style was shaking her a task. But they were not necessarily, you know, those those those those those those those those those th people th people th people th people th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's is impossible, that's, that's is impossible, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. that's impossible, thi. thi. that's impossible, thi. that's impossible, thi. that's impossible, that's impossible,, we're saying things like she needs rappers to get a crowd but they weren't
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Starting point is 00:29:31 And that's really what you want. You just want as many people. You just want as many people to tell their people, to as many people as possible. If you get it to a million people, if 100,000 people show up, great. And that's how I look at politics. If you're running for the president, you should sit in front of as many people as possible, you should have as many interviews as possible. You should go meet people where they are
Starting point is 00:29:54 and talk to as many different audiences as possible. And let's just say you talk, if you just say you, if you, in an election cycle, you know, if two or three million of them come out to vote for you, that's great. So I have no problem with, you know, being in front of as many diverse audiences as possible. I think all politicians should meet people where they are because you never know who a potential voter is. Gotcha. So you mention meeting people where they are. I want to get a sense from you then of As we get out of the sort of excitement, surprise, and honeymoon of of Kamla being in the race and everything, and it gets closer and closer to November, and it really is now common's policies versus Trump's policies, what do you think some of the things that comma can do to win over any swing voters?
Starting point is 00:30:45 I don't even think that we're in the honeymoon phase. The honeymoon phase comes after she gets selected, right? I think right now we're just in a phase of, oh shoot, I'm actually energized. A lot of us haven't felt like this since 2008. Sure, a lot of us haven't felt like this since 2012. You know. I can't sit here th th here th th here th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th th th th thi th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. toeeeea. thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi. thi. thi. thi us haven't felt like this since 2008. Sure, sure. A lot of us haven't felt like this since 2012. You know, I can't sit here and say Hillary bought energy. Hillary felt like establishment, institutional politician that President Obama is saying, hey,
Starting point is 00:31:20 this is who we want you to vote for, more than qualified, but I can't sit here and say, she energized people. The vice president has energized people and we haven't had any energy since 2016. We didn't, I didn't vote for President Biden in 2020. I voted for the Vice President Kamala Harris. I'm on record saying that. Like, it wasn't until she got on the ticket to where I was like, all right, I feel comfortable, you know, voting for the person who created the 1994 crime.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Like, that's literally what my mentality was. So I think what we're feeling now is just the energy that we haven't felt before. And I don't think this goes away. I think that this is going to go up until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until until election day. Don't get me wrong, there's gonna be ups, there's gonna be downs. I mean, she still hasn't sat down and did an interview with anybody yet, right? She still hasn't had an official press conference yet, so you never know how those things can go.
Starting point is 00:32:12 I'm sure that she'll say something in an interview that people aren't gonna like, they're gonna pick apart, but that's still still our our our our our. And I think what she needed to do is just keep doing what she's doing. Like, like, right, like you just said, it's it's a policy thing at this point. Like, this is my issues, this is my agenda.
Starting point is 00:32:37 That's another thing she hasn't done yet either. See, I can speak to some of the things that the vice president president tham president tham president tham president tham president the. to some of the things that the vice president has done because I was on the campaign trail with her in 2020. I was doing my research to her, you know, when she was an attorney general in California. I know about things like the back-on-track program. You know, I know what her economic plans are. Even as vice president, I paid attention when she gave $285 million, you know, to mental health initiatives to help increase the amount of mental health professionals, right? Because I'm a mental health advocate, so I pay attention to stuff like that. But for people who don't know her, when they go to her website, she doesn't have a plan
Starting point is 00:33:18 for what she wants to do for the next four years. Where is that plan? But I just think she just needs to keep telling people to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep to keep their to keep their their their their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, toe, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, theateateathea, teatea, teaugh, teateateatr, teatefficient, thea, thiiiia, their, their just think she just needs to keep telling people what she plans to do. I think folks will get to know her later. Okay, so then do you think that Trump's going to win over some of those swing voters? Or do you know? No. Because I... My only reason that I asked the question is because it felt like he was riding high off of Biden and then it feels like ever since there's been a disconnect it's like when you watch a stand-up right and because I you know I work at the show I've watched Trump rallies I've watched Trump like general speeches at CPAC stuff like that
Starting point is 00:33:58 and it always felt like he was connecting even when he was being weird or even when he was going off script and everything, it felt like he was connecting with the sort of moment that he was having. And I feel like more often than not, every time I see him now, maybe it's because he's reaching out to social socials more than ever, so he's going to streamers, he's going to YouTube and stuff, and maybe that's not exactly his wheelhouse. It is smart. It is smart, but I that's that's that's that's that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not that's not exactly that's not exactly that's not exactly that's not exactly that's not exactly that's not exactly that's not exactly. that's not exactly. that's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not exactly. It's not. It's not. It's not not not not not not not not not not not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not smart. It's not not smart. It's not that's not that's not exactly. that's not that's not that's not that's not exactly. I's not exactly. that's not exactly. that's not exactly. I's not. I's not. It's smart, but I guess I'm, I'm, like you saw the Aidan Ross thing and everything, it's like, it's like, it felt like a bad move to me because it felt more awkward throughout than it did like, oh this is dude is putting himself in front of new people, it's like if you're putting yourself in front of new people and it's not on the best foot. Yeah, but that audience loved it, because you know, A th th th th th th th th th th that that that th th that th th th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, like, th, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. thi. the. thea. the. the. the. the.. Yeah, but that audience loved it because, you know, Aidan Ross, he's got skin in that
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Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah, yeah. I think at one point he had like 400,000 or half a million people. I think at one. I don't know what the those people decide to go out there and register to vote and vote for Trump, that's a win. I see. Like, I don't have a problem. And you gotta think his, his, Aiden's demo was like 13 to 24.
Starting point is 00:35:36 There's a new voter turning 18 every day. Yeah. So he went and sat in front of a bunch of young, impressionable people who may just feel like, you know what, I like that guy. He's sitting there kicking it with my dude Aiden. He's talking about young thug, you know, he's saying how we need to close the borders, we can put more money in our pocket. I can see how that could be intriguing to somebody who really isn't looking under the hood. I see. you know, so this is something I think about this. Theau th. T this is th. T this is thi this is thi thi this is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their, their, their, their, their their, their their their their, their their thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, theeeat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theat, theating, th talk to about or two other black people with it, is there are black people who voted for Trump in 2016. I know some. I got some friends who did. Who do not want to vote for him again?
Starting point is 00:36:17 And there is a sense, though, how do you find the sort of advice towards reconciliation in that way? Because then there are some black people now who vote for Hillary, then vote for Biden, or voting for Kamala, that just are like, what's wrong with you? How could you ever? And I think there are people out there. They're like, look, I am doing well, I'm maybe rich. I think this is the person that's going to keep me rich, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, and thi, and thi, and thi, I'm, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is, thi, is, is, thi, thi.a, is, is, thi.a, thi.eei.ei, is, thi, thithis is the person that's going to keep me rich, I'm voting this way, right? And so if someone's whole motivator is money, in a sense, then I'm not saying fault as
Starting point is 00:36:53 in I would do the same thing, but I get why they vote the way they do, because they're very clear about their intentions. And those are people to me who have not looked under the hood, because being black and rich in a country that's under authoritarian rule is not going to fare well for you. Mm-hmm. It's really just that simple. Yeah. Like being black and rich in a country that's under authoritarian rule is not going to to tell them to ask chat GBT or Google what is the authority the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their to feel well for you. And I don't know any other way to explain it to people other than to tell them to ask GBT or Google what is authoritarian rule.
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Starting point is 00:39:59 logic out of the illogical my thing is these are those are the times where I just have to step back and just realize that some people are just looking at it as politics, even though if you are really paying attention, you know how high the stakes are, but the Democrats are the blame for a lot of that. Because the Democrats demonize Republicans all the time. Like, I can't think of one Republican candidate in my lifetime who hasn't been demonized. Maybe, maybe John McCain? John McCain might have been the only one who they didn't like demonize. I do think that the threat to democracy thing is something that has been sort of like on the table and mentioned in every election for what know what feels like for what feels
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Starting point is 00:41:15 And that's how I feel about the threat to democracy line, where it's like, look, I, I, I, I, I to do things and as you say has said out loud, he plans to do things if he wins that are not democratic, right? So the threat to democracy thing is real. He already led an attempted coup of this country. Yeah. Yeah. We watched it. It's so many things that he's done that we don't pay. He led an attempted coup of this country. He literally said we should suspend the Constitution to overthrow the results of an election. You said this. But I think that my thing is the same way when someone's living through sort of war-torn conditions and eventually they're like, well I have to eat, I have to find some sort of work, I have to provide for my family, you have to quote unquote, get on with your life. I think that maybe that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that is that that is that that is the only the only that the only the only the only the only the only th. thi the only the only thi. thi. the only the o' thi. the o' the o' the o' the o' the o' the o' the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. theateate. te. te. te. te. te. te. toe. theate. toe. the. their. the. th I have to provide for my family, you have to quote unquote get on with your life. I think that maybe that that is the only personal failing is the wrong word because it makes
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Starting point is 00:42:55 And so, but I don't know if they do a good enough job of really doing either or, like even now with this whole, just labeling the threat... J.D. Vance weird? That's that's you're understating. You're understating the threat. It's definitely understating the threat. It is like super accurate though. Like it like there are just things that Trump has said mid-rally. Yeah. Like he'll be talking about immigration and then he's talking about sharks. And I'm like, I don't know where that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that's, but, but, but, but, but, but, the the the the the the th, the th, th, th. th, th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, they, thi, thi, the thi, thi, the thi, thi, you, you's, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, thi. thi. thi's, thi. It's, is, is just just just just, th he's talking about sharks and I'm like, I don't know where we are anymore. I'm with that.
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Starting point is 00:44:02 messaging at a time? Because I think that both things are things that I would worry about. So Project 2025 worries me, not as much, but sort of on the level with, wait, is this guy even here right now? No, that's real, because the Supreme Court concerns me more than Project 2025. Yeah, so I think that like maybe what we're having here is not just a sort of, oh, the Democrats could do better messaging on what the threats are or what the benefits are of electing a Democrat. I do think that we may have a general problem with us as an electing body that we can't seem to hold on to more than one thing for more than a certain amount of time. I agree with you, and what I would say to that is that is that is that is that is their their their that is their their their their their their their their their their their thi thi. their their their the the, the, theatheir the, threate, their threaten, threaten, threatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheatheir th. thi. thi. their thi. their thi. thi. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the an threaten, the an the an the an the an theee an theeee an threats, threats, threats, threats, threaten, threaten than a certain amount of time. I agree with you and what I would say to that is when you're a presidential candidate, you
Starting point is 00:44:49 can't look at the American people as just a monolistic thing. Because one thing that I think Trump does good and I want the Democrats to start doing, is you do have to say a whole bunch of things. Because when you say a whole bunch of things, different things are hitting with different people. Like you just said, Project 2025 may not hit with you, right? But the Supreme Court stuff might, right? Police immunity might hit with you,
Starting point is 00:45:17 but you know, something else he did may not. So it's just like you gotta put everything out there. You gotta put everything on the table and just let people see what resonates with them. Like what really triggers them. What hits them to say, oh no, we've got to make sure this dude don't ever get back in the White House. Yeah, we'll be back right after this. Finding great candidates to hire can be like try to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter.
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Starting point is 00:46:36 Hey, everybody, John Stewart here. I am here to tell you about my new podcast, the weekly show coming out every Thursday. We're going to be talking about the election, earnings calls. What are they talking about on these earnings calls? We're going to be talking about ingredient to bread ratio on sandwiches. I know you have a lot of options as far as podcasts go, but how many of them come out on Thursday? Listen to the Weekly Show with John Stewart, wherever you get your podcast. Now do you think then, because I do agree with what you're saying about messaging and about how I think it's important, especially with the energy, because the energy is new, we haven't had it for a while, and I think with that energy, because the energy is new, we haven't had it for a while, and I think with that energy, now it can be about, here's what I'm
Starting point is 00:47:29 going to do and here are my sets of policies. But do you think that because because to a certain degree, I agree with you that so much of voting it feels like for the past, however long has really been about keeping Republicans out more so than even bringing Biden in or anything. But when I, I guess that's my general question is like, okay, Republicans want to do all these things. I don't want any of those things. Is that enough of a platform for a candidate? No. You still have to tell, you know, those individuals what you plan to do for them. Like, you know, if you and your girl are going out and you know, there's one restaurant and she's like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 I don't like that restaurant. That restaurant not for me. And you're like, yes, not for me neither. She's still hungry. Sure, sure. Sure. Sure. You still got to go somewhere. No, fair. You know what I'm saying? You got to put some other option, you got to.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And if there is another option, right? You got to be like, well, we's we's we's we's we's we's we's. Not just because you're hungry, you're gonna want to go here because the fried pickles are amazing, are they got the greatest desserts. Like, you gotta lay it out as to why you should go there. Whenever you ask about anything in life, restaurants, vacation places, you're asking, so what's there? And they got to tell you what's there. So that's what Democrats have to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start to start. And they gotta tell you what's there.
Starting point is 00:49:06 So that's what Democrats have to start doing. We're here, but this is our menu. So I also want to get your thoughts on this because it's really something that we struggle with after every election. You know, I've said this before, people that know me will probably get sick of me saying this, but any campaign is the sort of sexting phase of the relationship you're having with your candidate, right? Ooh, I'm gonna come over there, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. You know that you don't have the hip strength or the knee mobility to do what you're saying, but I'm gonna do this, right, th, but, but I, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th, thi, the, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the, the, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, the, the, the going to do this, right? Now we're actually at your place and it's time, right?
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Starting point is 00:50:35 then he will find a different way to forgive a little less, but he is chipping away at that promise. But it's a thing that's been brought to me as him not fulfilling his promise, right? Uh-huh. Well, I think it's two things to that, right? If I'm a politician, all politicians really are able to do is tell us what they want to do. Literally, like, they tell us what they want to do. Now, if they want to stay in office, they'll go in their their their their their their to to to to to to their, to to their, to to their, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. th. I. th. th. th. th. to. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. t t t tell. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. they'll go in there and do those, do those things. I think as as voters, we should expect them to do all of it. Okay, right?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. And if they don't get it all done, I want to see you at least trying. Like, I want to see you trying, like, hard. I want to see you trying to do these things that you said, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, to to to to to to to to to to to, to to, to to to, to, to, to, to, to, toa, to, toa, toa, to.s. And, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa, toa this bill and they're getting, you know, shot down for whatever reason. I want to see you doing executive orders. I want to see you just trying to do these things that you said you were going to do. That's why I think the student loan thing hit so well because when he was getting blocked, right, by Congress and the Senate, he would go do an executive order, he would I respect that. At least you're trying to get something done, right? Or at least you're using whatever power you have to do something. That's all I expect. I just expect you to try, you know, and when you do get something done, fantastic, great, thank you, but at least try. Because like to your point, you can't just keep, you know,
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Starting point is 00:52:42 beholden to nothing and no one seemingly, right? Because he doesn't need anything else. He's not running again. So what would you like to see Biden do? Because this is the thing that people wish that they had the first time that they run. Whenever they run, they're talking like, hey, I won't take anybody's money. I won't be beholden anybody. Nobody can touch th hold me back, anything, I'm here for you, the people. Biden actually can do all of that right now instead of, I'm not even saying he's doing this,
Starting point is 00:53:08 but I'm saying we, the public, expect him to sulk and feel sorry for himself and everything, because it's an embarrassing thing to have to drop out of a race and stuff. But he's still the president. I'm glad he stepped down. You know, that's something I was something I I I that's something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was something I was calling for for a long time, but I think what President Biden can do, you know, for his remaining time in office, and he's starting to do it a little bit, raise hell about that Supreme Court. Like literally, you know, you say you want to put reforms on the Supreme Court, I want to see him raising hell about the Supreme Court because the Supreme Court is no longer a legitimate institution. And my biggest fear, and you know, I said it, you know a little bit on the You know in my opinion piece on on the show this week
Starting point is 00:53:49 What happens in November? Vice president wins the election? But all around the country you have all of these different states that refuse to certify the results of the election? Right? And then Donald Trump challenges the results of the election. It goes to the Supreme Court in light of all the Supreme Court's recent rulings. They just, th, th, th, th, th, th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, th, you, th, you, th, th, th, th, you, th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you tho, you thi, thi, thi, you thi, you tho, you know, you know, you know, you know, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you thi, you th, you th, you th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thi, thin, thin, thi, thin, thi, thin, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the election. It goes to the Supreme Court. In light of all the Supreme Court's recent rulings, they just made this moth fucking king. What makes us believe the Supreme Court would not overturn the results of that election? Mm-hmm. So I would like to see President Biden raising a hell about that over the next few months. I would be he already saidthat you know he wants to put up reforms but I need I need the rhetoric to be you know we got to start talking about expanding the court like literally I think that he really needs to be spending all his remaining energy on talking about how illegitimate this court and by the way and he's old so he's seen a lot of
Starting point is 00:54:41 different variations of the court yeah he knows when the court is corrupt. Or just taking away the lifetime appointment. You know what I mean? Well, that's something, that was part of the reform. Yeah, yeah. I think it's 18 years, I think they said. Oh, okay. That's something he's proposing. Yeah. But my whole point is I would like to see him to see. the the to see. to see. the to see. the to see. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. that. the. the. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that. that. that. that. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the. the the the. the the. the the the. the. theate. the ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ti. ti. ti. that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that might be the biggest hurdle. You know, we keep talking about, you know, the thing standing and the way of keeping Trump
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Starting point is 00:55:39 but you know like like I said he will still challenge. And I have no doubt in my mind that his cronies all around the country will refuse to certify the results of the election. He'll challenge it. It'll go to the Supreme Court, and I have no reason to believe they wouldn't overturn it. Yeah. I have no reason to believe that they would. And that's why I say everybody keeps saying that the thing thing things things think think think tham tham tham tham thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that that that's that's would. Yeah. And that's why I say everybody keeps saying that the thing that's going to keep Trump out of the White House is Kamala Harris and Governor Tim Walls.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Those are the things that are going to keep them out of, I mean, keep Trump out of the White House. But what is going to be the thing to keep them out? You know what I'm saying? tha saying? th saying? You saying? You saying? th saying? th saying? You th saying? th saying? th saying? th saying? th saying? thi saying? thi. thi? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thin? You're thin? thin? thi. thi. thin? thin? th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. T, thi. T, thi. T, thi. T, thi. T, thi. T, thi. T, thi. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. I the. I the. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. win, there's mechanisms in place that can keep them out. Republicans got this shit fixed in a real, real way. They got it to where it's either two results of elections. They win or this shit wasn't real. It was fake. Yeah. It was rigged. And I have no reason to believe that they are not going to push the gas on that in November. And everybody that's listening to my voice right now, none of y'all should be surprised when this happens.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Just be prepared. Yeah, I get you. Um, Shalman. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you, brother. Yes, sir. I appreciate you. Thank you.
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