The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Votegasm 2020: The Awkward Day After | Geraldo Cadava & Evan Osnos

Episode Date: November 5, 2020

Roy Wood Jr. gives up on polls over the unexpected closeness of Election 2020, Trevor talks to "The Hispanic Republican" author Geraldo Cadava, and Evan Osnos discusses his book "Joe Biden." Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. I am Trevor, running on four hours of sleep. Today is Wednesday, the 4th of November, which means we are now on day two of election day. It's almost like a Hanukkah miracle that no one wanted. Anyway, coming up on tonight's show, we look at how Donald Trump has had it with all of these votes.

Roywood Jr. will never trust the polls again, and we'll find out why Hispanic voters are going MAGA. So let's do this people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. Ears edition. So, Election Day is over. But because it's 2020, Election Week has just begun. And that means it's time for more election coverage in our continuing segment, VoteGasm 2020, the awkward day after. Let's kick it off with really the only news right now. Joe Biden looks like he is on pace

to become the 46th president of the United States. Now at the time that I'm saying this, he's leading in enough states to win the entire thing, and it might even be declared tonight. In fact, you might even know watching this right now, if the election is over. And if you do, please don't tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tell me tel me tel me tel me tel me tel me tel tel tel tel tel the to to to told me, told me, told me, told me, told told me, told told the, told told told, told, too, too, too, too, to to to to to to to to to to to to to be, to to to to to to to too, too, too. too. too. too. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tho. tho. tho. the. the. th th th too. th th th th too. th too. too. too. too. too. too. too. tell me, no spoilers. I like this feeling of stress. Now, this is all happening after a chaotic, nerve-wracking election night that featured all types of weird moments. Predictions flipping left and right, ballots being delivered with a police escort, Steve Kornaki's khaki butt. But maybe what's weirdest is that after all

of that, the night actually ended up going mostly as everyone expected. You know, Trump jumped ahead early in a lot of states because Republicans mostly voted in person and those votes got counselled first. And then, as the Democratic mail-in ballots came in, Biden jumped ahead, which is what everyone knew might happen for weeks. Well, everyone, except the President of the United States. We were winning everything and all of a sudden it was just called off. The results tonight have been phenomenal and we are getting ready. I mean literally we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that

was so beautiful, so good. We had such a big night. You just take a look at all of these states that we've won tonight. And then you take a look at the kind of margins that we've won them by. We won states and all of a sudden, I said, what happened to the election? It's off. And we have all these announcers saying, what happened? And they're counting the other guys' thorsorsorsorsorsorsorsorsorsorsorsors. tham. thors. tham. tham. tham. th. thoes. th. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. thoes. tode. tode. today. today. today. today. today. t said, oh. Yeah, dude. Because first they counted your votes, and now they're counting the other guy's votes. I mean, I knew that Trump didn't like science,

but I didn't realize he had disabout numbers. I mean, maybe this explains why he's always in debt. This is just a level of stupidity from Trump, that I did not expect. He always exceeds the levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels levels. you could go higher. Sometimes it feels like Trump is an actual toddler. First I had a nose, then suddenly my uncle stole it. And I had no nose. What happened to law and order folks? I don't have a nose anymore. Although, Trump could be playing four-dimensional chess here. Yeah, maybe he's laying the groundwork for his legal defense over his taxes. Your Honor, as you can see, I have no idea how numbers work.

Therefore, I cannot no idea how numbers work. Therefore, I cannot be held accountable. Case dismissed. Sir, you cannot dismiss your own case. I also don't know how the law works. Double case dismissed. Hashtag winning. But yeah, needless to say, Donald Trump was upset. The more votes got counted, the more Biden pulled ahead of him. And for Donald Trump, there could only be one solution. Stop counting the votes. Something just breaking in the last couple of minutes as well. Things are moving fast and furiously with the president's campaign.

The campaign manager Bill Steppy in announcing that the trump campaign has filed a lawsuit in the state of Michigan saying, President Trump's campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots in the counting process is guaranteed by Michigan law. We have filed suit today in the Michigan court of claims to halt counting. This is a fraud on the American public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election. This is a major fraud in our nation. We want the law to be used in a proper

manner. So we'll be going to the U.S. Supreme Court. We want all voting to stop. We don't want them to find any ballots at 4 o'clock in the morning and add them to the list, okay? It's a very sad, it's a very sad moment. To me, there's a very sad moment and we will win this and as far as I'm concerned, we already have one. Wow. will win this and as far as I'm concerned we already have won it. Wow, I know everyone was expecting it, but still, can we just take a moment to admit

that it is insane that an American president is just demanding that they stop, that they stop counting votes while he's ahead? This is a textbook authoritarian move, which is impressive coming from a guy who's never read a textbook. And I gotta say, for a guy who hates shit-hole countries, Trump really likes to jack their style. I mean, I never thought I'd see the day when someone yelling at me to go back to Africa sounded more like a concern for my rights instead of a threat.

All I'm saying is, be careful America. If you let Trump do this, then voting could soon become one of those things that people do to feel better, but doesn't actually do anything. You know, like taking CBD oil or recycling plastic. Now look, nobody knows what the Supreme Court is going to decide if Trump ends up bringing this case to them. I mean, we hope that they'll be neutral and rule on the merits. But, I mean, Trump is also the person who appointed so many of them that who knows? I mean they might just be like according to the Constitution only the president gets to be president. But then how do you get a new president? But let's move on to the other big news of election nights which is actually very bad news for Democrats. It looks like Republicans will very likely be

holding on to the Senate. And some high-profile races really did not turn out the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the way the the the the the the the to the to the the their. their. According. According their. According their. According their their their. According their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their. their. their. their. their. their. the th. to. to to to to to to to to to to to the president. th. the. the the. the the the the the president. the the the holding on to the Senate. And some high-profile races rarely did not turn out the way Democrats wanted, even when they spent a lot of money. Minutes after the polls closed in Kentucky, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell winning re-election for his seventh term. Democrat Amy McGrath giving McConnell a challenging fight, smashing fundraising records. Her campaign spending more than 7070 million on the race. In South Carolina, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham

holding on to his Senate seat, after Harrison raised more than $100 million in his campaign. God, damn. I don't know who the bigger losers are here. The Democratic candidates, or the donors who gave them $170 million to lose their races? I mean, those donors gave them the best possible chance and they still lost. That's like your parents being billionaires, but you still end up as Don Jr. But shit, if you can raise that much money, well, the next time I'm going to run for

Senate against Mitch McConnell. All right, everybody, if I'm going to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to to to to to to to their to to their to to to to to their to to to to be to to to to to tooe 1c, their $eckhueueue $1, theirsesesesesesemoeckleaunnec, their their their their their thoeansesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesesese. thoe. thoe an thoe an thoe an thoe an th. thoe an the an the an the an the an the an the an the an thoeruuoe andue.oeruoeru. thoananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananan. Ieanananananananananu. Ieananu, I'm going to run for Senate against Mitch McConnell. All right, everybody, if I'm going to beat this guy, I'm going to need a new Tesla, the new PS5, and also 200 Gs for snacks and stuff. I think I got this, people. And you know, on one level, I guess it is an encouraging story. It's an encouraging story about the limits of money in. So overall, even if Biden does manage to pull off a victory in the next few days or hours, Democrats are still a bit shell-shocked. They didn't do as well as they were hoping, and they didn't even do as well as they thought they would.

Trump did have a better night than expected, outperforming the polls once again. President Trump has actually exceeded its 2016 numbers in every single demographic with gender and race except for white men. He exceeded his white women vote, blacks, Hispanics with black women and black men. Once again, the polls and the entire political world in Washington, D.C. and New York totally missed the scale of the Democrats' underperformance last night. I'm going to pop over here to Wisconsin. There was a poll from ABC the other day that had Joe Biden up 17 points in this state.

Look where you are right now. It's 71% of the vote. And Trump's got a lead here by four points. The polling was wrong. It was wrong again, even worse than it was in 2016. The polling was even worse than in 2016? How do the polls just keep getting worse? What are they? The New York Knicks? But that's right. The Democrats had super high expectations last night, and they badly underperformed. Basically, the Democrats are the cinnabun of politics. It smells amazing. You get excited, but once you're eating it, you're like, oh yeah, it's

cinnabun. For more on what went down last night, let's turn to a man who was up all night. Roy Wood Jr. What's going on, Roy? You know, this race between Biden and Trump is a lot tighter than anyone was expecting. Trevor, this race is tighter than one of Donald Trump's t-shirts. All right, look, first of all the first off, we got to give it up to Trump. First and foremost, just look at everything he did, man. Teamed up with coronavirus to the tooge. to tooge. tooge. tooge. tooge. tooge. too, too, too, too, th th th th th th thee. thee. too, thee. too, too, too, too, too, too, thi. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor, too, too, too, too, too, too, Trevor, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, th. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. th. th. th. t. t. t. t. tha. tha. Trevor. Trevor. tha. tha. Trevor. tha. Trevor. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. tha. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor, tha. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. Trevor. tha. tha. t. tt less taxes than Lauren Hill and somehow still be in this race. That's crazy, dude.

Man, I wrote one bad check to Circus City. They still won't let me back in the store, and they're out of business. So then, what's the lesson here, man? I'll tell you what the lesson is for me. The lesson for me is to stop trusting the polls. I'm done trusting these polls these polls. I's these polls. I's poll. I's poll. the polls. the polls. I's, their their. their. tholets. thiiiolets. I's, thi. I'm, thi. I'm, thoes. I'm, thoes. thoes. thoes, thi. thiolususus. thoes, thoes, thoes. thoes. thoes. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Wea. Well, thi. Well, thi. Well, thi. Well, thi. Well, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. They's, thi. They's, thi. They's, thin. It's, thin. It's, thin. It's, thia. It'sa. It'sa. It'sa. It'sa. thia. It'sa. It's thia. It'sa. It's thia. It's the polls. I'm done. I'm done trusting these polls. Man, you watch all these polls running their mouth by Biden. They'd have you thinking Biden was going to win. Florida, Texas, Mexico, Diamond, and Silk. I'm done. I'm done with all these polls, man. It's lies. I'm tel you right now, man, I'm never trusting polls again. But Roy, we talked about thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi them polls again. But Roy, we talked about this in 2016. You said you weren't going to trust the polls again then.

I don't be bringing up all that old shit, man. Yes, I said that. Yes. But then the posters, they said that we could trust them again. So I did. Plus, they had four years to fix it. So silly me for thin' to fix it. they're, they're, they're, th. I. I. I. I, they're, their. I. I, their. I, their, their, th. I, their. I's, thin'. I's, thin'. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm, I'm thin'. I'm th. I'm th. I'm they're, I'm, I'm, I'm they're bringing, I'm. I'm they're bringing. I'll bring, I'll bring. I'll thi. I'll thi. I'll th. I'll th. I th. I th. I. I th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's, I's, I's, I's, I'll their. I'll their. I'm their. I'm their. I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. thr. tr true. true. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. thrown. ththis like, I got a Mexican spot I go to, right? And they always get shut down for health violations, but the food good, so I let it slide. When you go back in there, they shut down for a little while, you go back in there and you be like, oh, they cleaned it up. Nope. It's the same old stuff, only now is to do it wearing a different apron. going to ever try and predict elections again, right? No, I will try to predict elections again,

only now I will be using more reliable predictions, like astrology, or then reading the entrails of a guinea pig, or like on the night of a full moon, going outside, urinating, seeing if my pee, make any type of word to letters I can read, you know, somebody like Wigi bullet. Well, I mean, another option is you is is just try and talk to people of different communities and try and suss out their perspective of the world.

Yeah, I said, I said, talk to astrologists. That's what I said, you're not listening. Okay, but just so we're on the same page. You're done with polls. with... you know, got to update so it's happening. Oh shit, they're talking about Biden might win Texas. We back in it baby, Biden might win Texas man. Roy, I don't think... This is good news right here. Rooke. Roy, Roy, those are pollsters again. Roy, you come't, Roy, why not just wait for the results, Roy. No, no, man, I gotta put it up, I gotta go trap, I gotta spread the good news to everybody on the internet, man.

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That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Look, people, it's no secret that Donald Trump is a polarizing president. Some people love him. Most people hate him, and that's just in his family. So it's no surprise that with him on the ticket, people were not going to miss their chance to weigh in. To say this country is making history night tonight, might just be an understatement.

When all the ballots are counted, more than 150 million Americans will have voted, shattering all previous records. It looks like we're on track to have the highest voter turnout to the percentage of the electorate since the turn of the century. Not this century, last one, 1900. Damn, the highest turnout since 1900. Although it's a little different because back in 1900, most of the electorate was horses, and not even female horses either.

Only male horses who owned land. Very different time. Also, back then, people had more time to vote. I mean, they could just switch shifts with their kids. Thank you so much for covering my ass, Timmy. I owe the to vote. I mean they could just switch shifts with their kids. Thank you so much for covering my ass Timmy. I owe you a pint of Guinness for that. But daddy I'm only seven years old. Right, street whiskey me lad. What was I think thinne. Although when you think about it, it makes sense that turnout this year is close to 1900 because I mean thanks to Corona life we're home a lot. Life is slow-paced. We're baking our own bread. The only difference is we have Netflix, and back then, they only had Lulu.

I can't wait to watch the handmaids tell today. I heard Karen's in this episode. Now, of course, the presidential race was the main thing bringing people to the polls. And then after that, the Senate and congressional races. But all across the country, people were also approaching voters on street corners and saying, yo, you want to vote on this drug ballot initiative? Also in the ballot in five states, legalization of marijuana. Four states, Arizona, Montana, South Dakota and New Jersey, all voting to allow recreational marijuana, while Mississippi voting to allow the use of medical marijuana. Voters in D.C. passed a measure dropping magic mushrooms to, quote, the lowest level of

law enforcement priority. And a first in the nation in Oregon. Voters deciding there to decriminalize possession of small amounts of all drugs, including heroin, cocaine and meth. Those found in possession will now have the option to pay a fine or go to a free recovery center. Damn you see? Oregon did it right. They're the only state with a backup plan in case Biden loses. Honestly though I think this is a good thing because way too many people get locked up in America for way too long. Although let's be real. Whoever proposed this bill definitely had a little heroin, cocaine and meth on them at, or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or or to to to to th to th th to th th th th th th th th th to to to to to to to th to th th thine thine or thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine thine or thine or thine thine or thine or thine or thine or thine or th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin or thin or thin or thin or thin thin thin thin. thin. thin. thin. thooooooooooooo. thoooooooooooooooo. tho. tho. tho. America for way too long. Although, let's be real, whoever proposed this bill

definitely had a little heroin, cocaine, and meth on them at the same time, right? Now, personally, I don't want to get high in Mississippi, because that's one of those states where you need your wits about you. But I am excited for New Jersey to have weed. Imagine how next level edibles are going to be when Italian Americans are running dispensaries. Yeah, so this is an Indica pepperoni, Calzoni. I like it with a cider, O.G. Cush, Marinarinara sauce. You want some of this? Oh, and if you were looking for some more good news that came out of the election, well,

you're in luck. Because just check out some of the new people who are going to be starting work next year. Last night's election marked a number of notable wins and first on both sides of the political aisle. So first you've got Richie Torres and Mondair Jones, both from New York, who will become the first openly gay black members of Congress when they joined the house in January. They will join nine other openly LGBTQ members of Congress, Jones calling the accomplishment a lot of responsibility. Then you've got Sarah McBride, who made history back in 2016

as the first openly transgender person to speak at a major party convention. She made history again as she was elected to the Delaware state legislator, becoming the highest ranking of trans lawmaker in the country. McBride celebrated last night saying in a statement that she is humbled by the support that she's received, and she hopess shows shows shows shows shows kid that our democracy is big enough for them to.

Oh yeah we got transgender people we got gay people of color what? America's legislatures on their way from turning from madmen into pose! And it's so inspiring that after so many years, the LGBTQ community will finally have an opportunity to get their legislation blocked by Mitch McConnell. And having the first two openly gay black members of Congress is amazing. I mean, except for all the straight members who are always going to be trying to set them up together.

So you know who else is gay and black? Oh, and there's one more candidate who's breaking barriers this morning. A Republican candidate for the state legislature in North Dakota who died from COVID-19 in October won his election Tuesday night. Election results in North Dakota showing the Bismarck area district going to David Andal,

choosing two representatives, typically. Andal died due to complications from COVID-19 when he was 55 in October. Oh, hell no. If you lose to a dead guy, kill yourself. You'll at least make it a tight race. Seriously, can you imagine losing to a dead guy? Your campaign is literally you just saying, hey, I'm alive,

and the voters are like, yeah, well, I don't know, I don't know. All right, we have to take a quick break, but don't go away, because when we come back, we'll be talking about the surprisingly high Hispanic vote for Donald Trump, with Professor Herald-Cadaba. Stick around. Finding great candidates to hire can be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. You might get a lot of resumes, but not enough candidates with the right skills or experience. But not with Zip Recruiter. Zip Recruiter finds amazing candidates for you fast. And right now you can try it for free at Zip Recruiter's smart technology identifies top talent for your roles quickly. Immediately after you post your job, zip recruiters powerful

matching technology starts showing you qualified people for it. And you can use Zip Recruiter's pre-written invite to apply message to personally reach out to your favorite candidates and encourage them to apply sooner. Ditch the other hiring sites and let Zip Recruiter find what you're looking for, the needle in the haystack. Four out of five employers who post on Zip Recruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free at this exclusive web address, zip recruiter.com slash zip. Zip Recruiter. The smartest way to hire. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have

been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So earlier today, I spoke with History Professor and Author Heraldo Kadava. We talked about yesterday surprising Hispanic votes and how both parties can reach Hispanic voters. Heraldo Kadava, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you so much. It's great to be here, Trevor. You are, I'm going to read this to get it right, you are an associate professor of history

and Latinx studies at Northwestern University. You most recently wrote a book entitled The Hispanic Republican, the shaping of an American political identity from Nixon to Trump. It seems like a paradox on the surface. What do you think it is about the Hispanic vote or the Latino vote that a lot of people don't seem to understand? Where to begin? I mean, it seems like Americans rediscover Latinos every four years at election time, and I think this year it's especially pronounced because Latinos seem to have moved

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Convention in Cleveland, right before the 2016 election, and there was a Mexican woman in the street and she was waving a Trump flag. And I was genuinely, genuinely curious. And I walked up to it and I said, hey, how can you support Trump? And she said, because he is working for me. And she said, he's building a wall to stop illegal Mexicans from coming over.

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what the Republican Party stands for in the United States. You can also look at the Latino evangelical church. That is in many ways an immigrant religion. Latin American immigrants are evangelical in their home countries, come, start churches here and belong to churches here. So it's you know truly a much more diverse lot than you would think. Yeah it feels like in many ways the Republican approach has really been focused though because on on the Democrat side I find that there's a lot of infighting about how to handle the message. An interesting thing that I heard was from the Democratic winner in Arizona, right, the

congressional winner in Arizona, who was asked, just asked, hey, what do you think Democrats could do to do better with the with the Latino vote? And he said, well, first of all, stop calling them Latin X. And that was an interesting, interesting one for me because I know that that's been a fight is people saying like I'm not Latin X. I'm Puerto Rican. I'm, I'm, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th, th, th, th, th, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't the the the they, don't they. they. they. they. they. thi, thi,'m Puerto Rican, I'm, you know, I'm Dominican, I'm Cuban, I'm Mexican, I am, don't call me this thing. Do you think that there's a disconnect sometimes between like the academic approach that Democrats take to, in referring to a group,

versus how the groups just refer thought about it in exactly those terms, but I do think that, you know, Democrats often fight over identity politics in some ways more than Republicans do. So, you know, remarkably, I think the Republican strategy for recruiting Latinos has been remarkably consistent since the Reagan years in 1980, and it's kind of really relied on, you know, identifying what, and these might be misunderstandings, but they've nevertheless stuck with this kind of core set of issues like family values, work ethic, patriotism, and Reagan defined those things. And in many ways, Trump is just running the same playbook

that Republicans have run for the past four years. I think you're right, it's a kind of rejection of identity politics and saying that you're Mexican Americans or Cuban Americans or Americans, you're Americans. Instead, you're Americans of Mexican descent. You know, interestingly, when I was interviewing a Latino Republican leader, he rejected the whole idea of Hispanic Republican. He wanted me to call him a Republican of Hispanic descent instead. Interesting. Yeah, super interesting.

It's funny that you say that because I find that Republicans do a much better job of coding their identity politics. I don't agree with the notion that Republicans don't engage in as much identity politics as Democrats. I think Democrats are too blatant about it. So Democrats will say, we've got to get black voters and the black vote and the Hispanic vote and we've got to get these gay people to come and help us.

Do you know what I mean? Whereas Republicans go, we've got to protect our farmers. We've got to do a better job of protecting that factory worker in Ohio. We've got to protect him. who he is, and it's a very interesting technique that they use that implies a certain connotation of a person, but it doesn't make that person feel like they're reduced to only the color of their skin. Do you think that could be part of the reason that Republicans do so well? Oh man, I wish I got to talk to you every day about this stuff. I mean, that's absolutely right, man. that's absolutely right, man. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. that, that, that, that, thi. that that that, the, the, that that that that that that that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the. thr. thr. thr. the the thrown. the the. the. thee. thee. thee. thee. the. the. the the auto worker in Detroit. Never mind the fact that there are many, many Latinos who work as dairy farmers or work in auto plants.

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And I say this because I come from a country where we had many classes of people who say, hey, if you work the right way and if you act the right way, we'll give you white classifications and some of the privileges that white people get. Do you think that that's a possibility going forward? For sure. That kind of, you know, we also know that one of the many ways that Latinos are diverse is, their skin color even or racially diverse in their class background and there are all kinds of things. So yeah, that demography is destiny and demographic change is going to naturally lead to more democratic victories. I mean, the first, obviously, is that Latinos are

politically diverse and feel different ways about a lot of different things. But the second thing is that it kind of takes for granted that the Republican Party is just going to be static and roll over and play dead as the sea of demographic change washes over them. And I think one of the particularly surprising things about the results from last night is that Donald Trump truly made inroads among Latino voters, and that's shocking. The idea that Donald Trump would be the second coming

of someone like George W. Bush to actually expand the Latino vote. It just kind of blows the mind, right? But, you know, the fact is he did, and he expanded Latino support. And if I were a Democrat today, I wouldn't kind of rest comfortably on this idea that Latinos maybe helped Biden win in Arizona or Nevada. I would be really worried that Trump, Trump's Latino support seems to have expanded by several percentage points. And that's something we need to spend a lot of time

thinking about and questioning a lot of our assumptions. Well, I will say, talking to you is one of the most fascinating conversations I've had. I hope to have you on the show again, and I genuinely recommend that everyone reads your book. Thank you so much for taking the time. Take care, Trevor. out Geraldo's great book, The Hispanic Republican, the shaping of an American political identity from Nixon to Trump.

When we come back, we'll talk more about the election with award-winning reporter, Evan Osnose. Don't go away. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at.

That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts Welcome back to the daily social distancing show. So earlier today, I spoke with Pulitzer Prize winning journalist Evan Osnose. We talked about the election and what kind of president Joe Biden could be. Evan Arsnos good to see you again. Nice to see you. Yeah, it feels like the last time I saw you I was 30-something years old, and now I am 52, but I only aged in one night. How are you doing?

I'm 112 actually, but holding up okay, thank you. Holding up really well. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks for having me. You are a Pulitzer Prize-winning author. You are a journalist. You are somebody who has spent a lot of time living the life of Joe Biden through the lens of your work. As this moment unfolds, how do you think Joe Biden is situated to help the country recover

from what is going to be arguably one of the most tumultuous elections in history? Well, in a strange way, he's had a lot of practice of a certain kind for this, and it's terrible practice. I mean, if we know anything about Joe Biden, we know that he has been through some really wretched things in his life. After all, we know his late wife, Neilia Hunter, his daughter Naomi, they died in a car accident when he was just 29. And then later, his son Bo died of a brain tumor. And I mentioned that partly because I think in politics, sometimes we're sort of a little

cynical about things like that. We think that it's kind of being used as a prop. And what I find fascinating from looking into his life is seeing the way that it really altered him. It changed him. Just being acquainted with suffering in quite that way, in that very real personal way resonates with the condition we're in as a country. We are literally suffering. We're literally grieving.

And so he knows something of that. If Joe Biden is to win the election, he's going to be in an interesting position where it looks like Republicans will still have the Senate, Democrats will have the House, and so now in many ways his selling point is going to be tested. Can Joe Biden be the person who brings the sides together to get things done for America? Even though no president, incoming president, if that's what he is, would ever ask to preside over a country as divided as he is, the truth is he actually has some experience in these moments. To give you one example, when they came in 2009, one of the the the he did was he started lobbying the late Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania to change parties, go from being a Republican to a Democrat.

He was also given an assignment. The Obama administration said, all right, Joe Biden, we want you to call up members of the Senate. Try to get them to vote for the stimulus bill. So we did that. He started working the phones. He's kind of constantly on the phones with people on Capitol Hill. And he got people, he got three votes. And those turned out to be the three votes that ended up being decisive in passing that bill. So in a way, if he was a boxer, you would say that he's kind of comfortable in the clutch,

like right up close. That's his happy place, as strange as it may sound. Once Obama took office and once the Tea Party took its hold of the Republican Party and then Trump is in by extension, there's no denying that politics has changed dramatically. Do you think he'll still have the same pull and sway with the Republicans to get them to do it, or do you think that he's now just going to be facing, if he wins again, four years of just being blocked by Mitch McConnell and the Senate crew. I think, look, we'd be insane not to worry about that. That's the reality. That's the lay-at-land. That's certainly the politics we inhabit right now. I think there's something interesting that we sometimes lose sight of, which is that it matters the posture with which a president sells the policy. Meaning, if they're selling it from a distinctly progressive direction or a hardline conservative direction.

I mean, in fact, some progressive analysts have done some survey work, and what they find is that people in America might go for more aggressive climate change legislation if it's being presented to them as job growth or building a sustainable economy rather than, look, this is a moral obligation to future generations. You've written extensively about China. This is going to be one the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the biggest the the biggest thiiiiiiiiiii thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tho-s some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some some, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiiiiiiiiiiau, thuiaunau-s, thoan, thiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. thi, thi, thi, this is a moral obligation to future generations. You've written extensively about Biden, you've also written extensively about China. This is going to be one of the biggest challenges that America faces going forward. Where do you think Biden begins?

Because he's had some tough rhetoric on China, but you can't deny that America needs the relationship with China, or it's been set up in such a see that relationship unfolding? Well, for one thing, I think, frankly, China is going to be a little sorry to see Donald Trump go, because even though Donald Trump sort of uses a lot of language of confrontation, he has sort of efficiently undermined American credibility in the eyes of the world. There was a recent study that showed that Sijin Pong and Vladimir Putin now have higher favorabilities than Donald Trump.

So from from thoan thoan thoan problem. He's kind of like a recognizable form of president and diplomat. So I think what you're likely to see is that Biden will probably actually hold on to some of this confrontational stuff that the Biden, that the Trump administration has done, because it makes it easier. It gives him leverage. But what he'll do it with allies, he'll do it in the concert of American allies in Europe and in Asia, rather than America First, which often meant that we were doing things alone. Do you think Brideon will be able to sell himself as that guy? Because, I mean, one of the big differences between Trump and really any US president

has been that Trump knows how to sell his achievements whether they exist or not. Joe Biden seems to be the kind kind kind to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to be a to thi. the. to to to th. to to th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the th. the the the the th. the the the th. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thr. thr. thri. thri. toe. toei. toei. to. to. to. toe of person who says, well, read my record, check what I did. And people like, we don't read, Joe. We don't read. That's not the world we live in. So do you think that he will be able to rebuild some of the bridges that have been broken down in many of these industrial areas that he used to have such a strong basin? Well, I mean, it is true that he is kind of of of of of of of of of of of of universe. He seems to think that like is consequential and that he has to respond to that. We know there are millions of Americans who just voted for Donald Trump. It wasn't a flute this time. They knew what they were doing. And what he's going to do, I think his basic strategy, as he said to me and he I'm listening to you in a real way. You'd be surprised what the effect might have on our political chemistry.

Look, that's an optimistic take, but he doesn't have any option. It's better than going in there and saying, I'm given up on half of you because you didn't vote for me. When you look at the journey that America faces, the next Americangedies that he's faced put him in a position to be the best leader to lead America out of one of its greatest tragedies, which has been the pandemic?

I do. I think in a curious way, this life of ups and downs that he's had of failures, in some cases, of embarrassment and then of great successes, has primed him to fit into where we are as a country. Because let's be frank, we've had our ups and downs lately. And if we are now talking more candidly, also about our whole history, and the ways in which we have not treated people the way we should, and I think he's at a moment now where we are coming the world. And he's a bit of a humbler person than he was when he got into the Senate some 150 years ago.

So I think he really is coming at this from the position of recognizing our strengths and our limitations, and that's better probably than coming at it with an imagined idea of what we are and that we're going to make ourselves something we never really were. Evan, thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you for joining us today and hopefully I'll see you again soon. My pleasure. Thanks, Trevor. Thank you so much, Evan. Be sure to check out Evan's new book, Joe Biden, the life, the run, and what matters now. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, there is going is going there is going there is going there is going there is going there is going there is going there is going the the the the the the to be to be going to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. about vote counting. Now luckily, the American Civil Liberties Union has been fighting all year to secure everybody's fundamental right to vote.

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